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2012-11-08 10:28:00 AM  

dywed88: 3) If the GOP realigns itself it will do it in such a way as to keep Texas fairly safe (take socially conservative Hispanics from the Democrats while giving up racists that won't vote Democratic).


Cythraul: And ramp up the hate on gays and abortion.


Exit poll results found that about two-thirds of Hispanics (66%) said that abortion should be legal while 28% disagreed.

There is no gender gap on views on abortion among Hispanics or among all voters, according to national exit polling. About two-thirds of men (64%) and Latino women (67%) would permit legal abortion, as would 58% of all male voters nationally and 60% of women.


They're not going to persuade Hispanics in terms of abortion. The GOP is going to have to face the fact that they can. not. make any headway outside of their white religious base on social wedge issues.
 
2012-11-08 10:28:11 AM  

RedEyedWings: The British don't want you, jerkoffs. And we also don't want you in Canada, farksticks. Nor do they want you in any sane country populated mostly by white people--which are, let's face it, the only countries you want to live in.

These people hate the rest of their own country, but don't realize they'd hate the rest of the free world even more. It's so, so sad. But also so amazingly fun to watch them spin around until they get dizzy and trip over the piles of ammunition in their kitchen and fall over and lie on the kitchen floor, fat, flailing and confused by a changing world.


Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse. There's no way most of these people are going to accept the fact the rest of the country, nay, the rest of the world, does not follow these hard-right authoritarian positions.

Unless they mix in with the Taliban.
 
2012-11-08 10:28:31 AM  
Obama "apologized" for america (fact checked false) = Hates America

Free Republic actual quote: "Anyway, Your Grace, we are truly sorry and humbly sincerely beg your forgiveness." = True Patriot

I have no problem apologizing to the world for our Republicans. How embarrassing.
 
2012-11-08 10:28:44 AM  

soakitincider: JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: the united states is in the shiatter, and no american or british politician will do anything about it.

I disagree with you. The United States is just fine. This is not 1929, quit being a drama queen.

the united states is the opposite of fine; when you have massive debt, several wartime operations occurring, an extremely polarized nation, gross violations of the constitution (patriot act), and corruption and graft, you as a nation are not "just fine".


1. Debt is not the problem. Deficit is, but that will turn around when the economy gets better.
2. War time operations? Those are ending and then we will tone it down only to ramp it up 20 years from now.
3. Patriot Act was passed by Congress and held up by the courts. It is what it is for now. I don't agree with a random person on the internet that it is somehow unconstitutional. It's your opinion, not fact.
4. Corruption is not a factor as to whether the United States is ok. Grafting has been going on since the founders. Quit making it more than it is. We just hear about it quicker because of the internet. Correlation does not imply causation

The engine is way too big to stop now.
 
2012-11-08 10:28:45 AM  

Znuh: And pretty much this:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/



25.media.tumblr.comhealthyinfluence.com
Totally looks like

 
2012-11-08 10:29:56 AM  
That, is the biggest group of whiney biatches that I have ever seen.

This is coming from a man who has worked at both Titty Bars and Planned Parenthood.
 
2012-11-08 10:30:11 AM  
The U.K. doesn't want you. Do you remember when your hero, Sarah Palin, reached out to one of you other heroes, Margaret Thatcher, and got her hand slapped? Even the conservative wing of the U.K. knows you people are unlikeable freaks.
 
2012-11-08 10:30:42 AM  
Personally, this is my fave.

25.media.tumblr.com

/Mnmm invisible cucumbers
 
2012-11-08 10:31:30 AM  

Fury Pilot: [i1024.photobucket.com image 390x500]

Freddy frowns on your shenanigans.

\Source


That's....awesome!

/ favorited
 
2012-11-08 10:32:04 AM  
Dear former Subjects,

Unfortunately we are unable to accommodate your offer to return to British Sovereignty as a few things have changed over here since 1776. Specifically;

1. We no longer view black or brown people as our personal property.
2. We no longer think the answer to foreign leaders who don't agree with us is to launch an invasion.
3. We now let women vote and do all sorts of other smart health care things,
4. We regard religion as a kind of opt-in or opt-out deal, not a political doctrine.
5. We have stopped transporting criminals to the colonies so they can't be seen by others (ie Gitmo).
6. We no longer let people die because they are poor.
7. We let everyone over 18 vote without impediment or restriction.
8. We don't believe everything we read in the Press and have encouraged people to form "opinions" themselves.
9. We still believe in hard work, but we don't punish or ignore those whose progress in life is not as brisk as others.
10. Finally and most importantly, we regard Britain as a land of equal opportunity and fairness, clearly this is at odds with your underlying ideology.

As a consequence we are unable to accept your offer, but the following countries have stated they admire your principles and will accept you:

a, North Korea.
b. Iran.
c.Republic of China (no debtors please)
d. Albania.
 
2012-11-08 10:32:29 AM  

CygnusDarius: Fart_Machine: So what are the odds one of these Freeper "patriots" takes a shot at the President?

On the one hand, they could only be venting. On the other hand, there could be one or two psychos in there.

/BTW
//Where's GaryPDX?


Permanent vacation. He was never here.
 
2012-11-08 10:32:37 AM  

hammettman: They've really lost the plot, haven't they?


Found this steaming pile on their doorstep this morning. If they actually think this attitude will work, more power to them:

We are simply outnumbered by ...

* The gimme cult
* The race cult
* The vagina cult
* The sodom cult
* The drug cult
* The entertainment cult
* The cult of Marx
* The democrat cult


Nothing is their fault. Ever.
 
2012-11-08 10:33:23 AM  

Arkanaut: mrshowrules: Beaver1224: Since most or all of Europe, Canada, and Australia are more Left than the US; are there any countries out there that are to the Right (other than the Muslim theocracies)?

Excluding Canada and Australia, these countries: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Switzerland, Chile, Mauritius and Ireland.

Oh yeah, that's a good one. They can go and say they're friends of Augusto.

I was thinking they could try to go to Lebanon and join up with the Phalangists.


>ahem
Countries with universal health care (like obamacare)

Hong Kong 1993
Singapore 1993
New Zealand 1938
Switzerland 1994
Ireland 1977

I guess you still have the libertarian paradises of Chili and mauritius
 
2012-11-08 10:33:37 AM  
Conservatives had their chance to psychologically prepare for Romney's (likely) defeat. The writing was on the wall, and Nate Silver was providing regular updates throughout the campaign. Not once did Romney pull ahead the entire time. There is simply no good reason why conservatives should have been shocked at all when Obama won re-election.

This is what happens when you voluntarily remove yourself from the reality-based community.
 
2012-11-08 10:34:58 AM  

dywed88: take socially conservative Hispanics from the Democrats while giving up racists that won't vote Democratic)


Electoral social conservatism, at least in this country, is inextricably intertwined with southern racism. Our current right wing has never succeeded in convincing socially conservative blacks to vote for them, and I really doubt they'll have any more luck with hispanics.

Besides, most non-white social conservatives also think things like welfare and a safety net are important. It's only the rich and corpulent who manage believe in the former while ignoring the latter.
 
2012-11-08 10:35:15 AM  
All this open butthurt just because the American People didn't want a corporate predator and an Ayn Rand fanatic to rule the country with an iron fist on orders from the Koch Brothers.
hellgateguru.com
 
2012-11-08 10:35:19 AM  

scumshine: Aarontology: So they want to be lobsterbacks, eh?

You know what a real American does to lobsterbacks?

Slaughter them in their sleep on Christmas.

Ackshoely, they were Hessians mercenaries, if you are refering to Washington's trip across the Delaware River, Washington spllit his column in two and sent Sullivan and Greene into the Hessian barracks. The result was an entire Regiment killed, wounded and captured.


I'm not going to let something like a "fact" get in the way of my jokes.
 
2012-11-08 10:36:02 AM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-11-08 10:37:20 AM  

UNC_Samurai: CygnusDarius: Fart_Machine: So what are the odds one of these Freeper "patriots" takes a shot at the President?

On the one hand, they could only be venting. On the other hand, there could be one or two psychos in there.

/BTW
//Where's GaryPDX?

Permanent vacation. He was never here.


So he was Drew.
 
2012-11-08 10:37:39 AM  
Dear America,

If you will take my husband Philip as your King, you are welcome to him. He cheats, he has terrible gas and it is very hard to find footmen who will tolerate employment under him.

Please note, you should lock up all your females unless you want an entire generation of very tall, balding women born to your nation.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth II, Regina and Anus Horribilis

P.S. Do not let your daughters become engaged to fakirs. Philip tends carry things a bit beyond the whinging stage
 
2012-11-08 10:37:43 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: RedEyedWings: The British don't want you, jerkoffs. And we also don't want you in Canada, farksticks. Nor do they want you in any sane country populated mostly by white people--which are, let's face it, the only countries you want to live in.

These people hate the rest of their own country, but don't realize they'd hate the rest of the free world even more. It's so, so sad. But also so amazingly fun to watch them spin around until they get dizzy and trip over the piles of ammunition in their kitchen and fall over and lie on the kitchen floor, fat, flailing and confused by a changing world.

Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse. There's no way most of these people are going to accept the fact the rest of the country, nay, the rest of the world, does not follow these hard-right authoritarian positions.

Unless they mix in with the Taliban.


I've got an idea. There's one of the Hawaiian Islands that's totally owned by one family; IIRC no one or hardly anyone lives there. We could move all the Teabaggers there, let them create their own country and see how well their Ayn Rand philosophies actually work with no outside influence or intervention. It would be like a big experiment in social engineering.

/predict they'd kill each other off in about two weeks
//after turning the island into a charred, treeless terrain
 
2012-11-08 10:39:32 AM  
Dear Freepers,

We'd rather take back the sane people - you know, the ones who voted for Obama twice - than you, any day. Maybe Obamacare will give you access to the therapy you need to deal with your mental disease. In any case, we don't want you.

Sincerely,
Liz
 
2012-11-08 10:39:45 AM  
I would imagine depending on where you live people might be either extra douchey right now or extra nice. I work in the Berkshires, everyone seems to be saying hi and smiling a lot these past couple days.
 
2012-11-08 10:40:23 AM  

Znuh: And pretty much this:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/


Oh, holy shiat, this one:
cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2012-11-08 10:42:05 AM  

phritz: Znuh: And pretty much this:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

Oh, holy shiat, this one:
[cdn.theatlantic.com image 850x561]


Oh my. That is gold.
 
2012-11-08 10:43:41 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: I would continue, but I'd get brain damage.


Whatever happened to FreeImpact? Did she finally have enough and couldn't continue her endeavors for Fark?
 
2012-11-08 10:45:50 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: phritz: Znuh: And pretty much this:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

Oh, holy shiat, this one:
[cdn.theatlantic.com image 850x561]

Oh my. That is gold.


I can't imagine Captain America ever voting for Romney. He always seemed more the type that would have been upset about trying to disenfranchise voters than supporting a corporatist. I think he supported Obama in 2008 anyway.
 
2012-11-08 10:46:24 AM  

Bendal: CapeFearCadaver: RedEyedWings: The British don't want you, jerkoffs. And we also don't want you in Canada, farksticks. Nor do they want you in any sane country populated mostly by white people--which are, let's face it, the only countries you want to live in.

These people hate the rest of their own country, but don't realize they'd hate the rest of the free world even more. It's so, so sad. But also so amazingly fun to watch them spin around until they get dizzy and trip over the piles of ammunition in their kitchen and fall over and lie on the kitchen floor, fat, flailing and confused by a changing world.

Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse. There's no way most of these people are going to accept the fact the rest of the country, nay, the rest of the world, does not follow these hard-right authoritarian positions.

Unless they mix in with the Taliban.

I've got an idea. There's one of the Hawaiian Islands that's totally owned by one family; IIRC no one or hardly anyone lives there. We could move all the Teabaggers there, let them create their own country and see how well their Ayn Rand philosophies actually work with no outside influence or intervention. It would be like a big experiment in social engineering.

/predict they'd kill each other off in about two weeks
//after turning the island into a charred, treeless terrain


OMG it would be Lord of the Freepers.
 
2012-11-08 10:47:06 AM  
Freddie Mercury?
 
2012-11-08 10:47:28 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Sock Ruh Tease: I would continue, but I'd get brain damage.

Whatever happened to FreeImpact? Did she finally have enough and couldn't continue her endeavors for Fark?


Mods threatened her for posting things I guess they found offensive, then turned around and greenlight shiat directly from there.
 
2012-11-08 10:48:18 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Bendal: CapeFearCadaver: RedEyedWings: The British don't want you, jerkoffs. And we also don't want you in Canada, farksticks. Nor do they want you in any sane country populated mostly by white people--which are, let's face it, the only countries you want to live in.

These people hate the rest of their own country, but don't realize they'd hate the rest of the free world even more. It's so, so sad. But also so amazingly fun to watch them spin around until they get dizzy and trip over the piles of ammunition in their kitchen and fall over and lie on the kitchen floor, fat, flailing and confused by a changing world.

Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse. There's no way most of these people are going to accept the fact the rest of the country, nay, the rest of the world, does not follow these hard-right authoritarian positions.

Unless they mix in with the Taliban.

I've got an idea. There's one of the Hawaiian Islands that's totally owned by one family; IIRC no one or hardly anyone lives there. We could move all the Teabaggers there, let them create their own country and see how well their Ayn Rand philosophies actually work with no outside influence or intervention. It would be like a big experiment in social engineering.

/predict they'd kill each other off in about two weeks
//after turning the island into a charred, treeless terrain

OMG it would be Lord of the Freepers.


Starring Karl Rove as Piggy.
twimg0-a.akamaihd.net
 
2012-11-08 10:48:25 AM  
i449.photobucket.com


i449.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 10:48:31 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Sock Ruh Tease: I would continue, but I'd get brain damage.

Whatever happened to FreeImpact? Did she finally have enough and couldn't continue her endeavors for Fark?


Banned.

/or, asked politely to stop posting, whatever fits your fancy.
 
2012-11-08 10:49:07 AM  

dywed88: UNC_Samurai: MindStalker: somedude210: Do it, or move to Texas and secede.

Hey maybe they can time it with our inviting in Puerto Rico. We wouldn't even have to fix our flag.

//Though with the loss of Texas electoral college vote, the Republicans couldn't win another election this century.

Chuck Todd said last night that with the changing demographics, in 2016 Georgia, Texas and Arizona will be battleground states.

Imagine the hard-line Republicans' reaction when they have to move to the center to keep GA and TX in play.

I don't see Texas coming into play presidentially for a couple reasons:
1) The Democrats don't need Texas, it would be a nice feather in their cap and pprobably finish off the current GOP forcing them to change course or die, but by then the election is already over.
2) The Democrats have basically no ground game in Texas, they are better off focusing resources on marching down the east coast, securing North Carolina, Virginia and Florida and taking the battle to South Carolina and Georgia or smaller states like Nevada.
3) If the GOP realigns itself it will do it in such a way as to keep Texas fairly safe (take socially conservative Hispanics from the Democrats while giving up racists that won't vote Democratic).

However for the Senate, only the second point is a major difficulty and I would expect more resources to go to the Texas Senate race in 2014 (and House races in 2014 and 16) to build up a ground game for an actual challenge in 2018 (barring any fundamental shifts, of course). The big problem here is the next two Texas senatorial elections are midterm, which typically hurts Democrats.


If the Democrats want to do anything with Castro outside of San Antonio, they are going to need a ground game here anyway. While I don't live in the east coast states so take this for what its worth, but I think the necessary demographic changes are happening in much faster in Texas than they are in Georgia, the Carolinas, etc. Hell, had they sent resources here this year, Paul Sadler would have beaten Ted Cruz

McCain won Texas by less than 1 million, Romney won by about 1 million. Over the next four years, we are projected to grow by more than 2 million, and this growth statistically will vote more democrat than republican. If the next nominee has as good a ground game as Obama and makes people realize a Dem vote isn't a throw away vote, they will take Texas.

If the Dems succeed beyond their wildest dreams and take both Carolinas and Georgia in one fell swoop, they would get 40 EVs Taking a very winnable Texas gets 38.

Of course this all assumes the GOP does not moderate itself, but even if they do, its gonna take at least a generation before the Hispanics here start voting GOP in any significant numbers.
 
2012-11-08 10:49:21 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: DamnYankees: EyeballKid: From Bin Laden to the Confederacy to the monarchy, Republicans seem to empathize strongest with the traditional enemies of America. Wonder why?

Lets be fair - Americans love Monarchy. They just want to elect the Monarch.

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 768x432]


Yes, but then we'll all be minions and forced to wear matching butterfly costumes. And Brock Samson will go all sickhouse on our asses. I like my ass, gentlemen.
 
2012-11-08 10:49:33 AM  
i13.photobucket.com

i13.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 10:50:14 AM  

Fail in Human Form: marcpen: Draconian gun control where even owning a handgun will get you five years.


Just goes to show, no matter how advanced a country tries to be there's always that huge blindspot they have where they're farking up.


This isn't "farking up." They feel much safer knowing that very few people have guns that they can go on shooting rampages with, and that weapons are well-regulated. It's their choice, they have representative government.
 
2012-11-08 10:50:16 AM  
i13.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 10:51:15 AM  

homelessdude: More flailing from conservative sore losers. I love the presumption that the Queen of England would even be interested in an apology or any contact by conservatives. I would not be surprised she is of the opinion that it is an God Slinger Right Winger problem and beneath her station to deal with petty political whining. Of course, this is saying this is a real letter written by a conservative with enough clout for it to be taken seriously as opposed to yet another unhinged and liquored up ranter throwing a hissy fit.

I hope conservatives keep up the steady stream of posts like this. After 4 years of right-wing-nut bullshiat about the president, the country, dog-whistle politics and Christian sponsored misogyny, schadenfreude pie is quite tasty. I will not tire of the taste for few weeks at least.


This. I'm not on Facebook laughing in their pathetic faces about the "doom and gloom" bullshiat they spew in their moment of self-reflection. I don't need to. They make themselves look like tools.

For me it all harkens back to the Walker Recall thread last year. The "liberals" were disappointed but analyzed what had happened. We know what had gone wrong and, while sad, weren't acting like 10 year olds. Meanwhile the Fark Independents had hundreds, if not thousands, of posts that illustrated just how pathetic the right in this country has become. They used every playground trick in the book to make sure we knew that something important to us had gone down in defeat. It was like trying to have a constructive conversation with a moron. Oh, wait... it was having a constructive conversation with a moron, only to be called names.

I'm not going to gloat. I'm happy that America came to its senses, at least temporarily. The people who consider themselves "conservatives" should stop with the crying and stupid stunts (like TFA) and start looking at why they lost so badly.

If Freep is so upset, move to Canada or whatever. Sounds like a nice place, fewer assholes on the right too.
 
2012-11-08 10:52:01 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Mods threatened her for posting things I guess they found offensive, then turned around and greenlight shiat directly from there.


Anti_illuminati: Banned.

/or, asked politely to stop posting, whatever fits your fancy.


Wellllllllll, that's potato.
 
2012-11-08 10:52:18 AM  

Anti_illuminati: CapeFearCadaver: Sock Ruh Tease: I would continue, but I'd get brain damage.

Whatever happened to FreeImpact? Did she finally have enough and couldn't continue her endeavors for Fark?

Banned.

/or, asked politely to stop posting, whatever fits your fancy.


Freep impact
 
2012-11-08 10:52:39 AM  

ATRDCI: If the Democrats want to do anything with Castro outside of San Antonio, they are going to need a ground game here anyway. While I don't live in the east coast states so take this for what its worth, but I think the necessary demographic changes are happening in much faster in Texas than they are in Georgia, the Carolinas, etc. Hell, had they sent resources here this year, Paul Sadler would have beaten Ted Cruz

McCain won Texas by less than 1 million, Romney won by about 1 million. Over the next four years, we are projected to grow by more than 2 million, and this growth statistically will vote more democrat than republican. If the next nominee has as good a ground game as Obama and makes people realize a Dem vote isn't a throw away vote, they will take Texas.

If the Dems succeed beyond their wildest dreams and take both Carolinas and Georgia in one fell swoop, they would get 40 EVs Taking a very winnable Texas gets 38.

Of course this all assumes the GOP does not moderate itself, but even if they do, its gonna take at least a generation before the Hispanics here start voting GOP in any significant numbers.


The big problem is the general ignorance of the population down here. Most of the people either have NO news or only Fox/Rush.
 
2012-11-08 10:53:25 AM  
Or the sheer, unadulterated awesome of Karl Rove's 'math' being shredded right before his eyes:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-08 10:54:22 AM  

bmongar: Anti_illuminati: CapeFearCadaver: Sock Ruh Tease: I would continue, but I'd get brain damage.

Whatever happened to FreeImpact? Did she finally have enough and couldn't continue her endeavors for Fark?

Banned.

/or, asked politely to stop posting, whatever fits your fancy.

Freep impact


Freep Impact should have just kept making alts. I mean, if the troll accounts are allowed/encouraged, why not FI as well?
 
2012-11-08 10:55:03 AM  
I'm sorry that I didn't vote for the guy who's never been drunk before. I'm voting in my best interests as an alcoholic.
 
2012-11-08 10:56:19 AM  
FTFA Little did we know that our own free press would intentionally sabotage, deceive and withhold the truth from us in order to reelect a Socialist that still holds distain for our nation and contempt for its founding principles. have a different opinion than me.

/fixed the article
 
2012-11-08 10:57:32 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: CapeFearCadaver: Bendal: CapeFearCadaver: RedEyedWings: OMG it would be Lord of the Freepers.

Starring Karl Rove as Piggy.


Limbaugh = Jack
Mittens = Roger
O'Reilly & Beck = Sam & Eric
Ryan = Simon

I have NO idea who could be Ralph.
 
2012-11-08 10:58:50 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Philip Francis Queeg: CapeFearCadaver: Bendal: CapeFearCadaver: RedEyedWings: OMG it would be Lord of the Freepers.

Starring Karl Rove as Piggy.

Limbaugh = Jack
Mittens = Roger
O'Reilly & Beck = Sam & Eric
Ryan = Simon

I have NO idea who could be Ralph.



Duh, Beohner.
 
2012-11-08 10:59:16 AM  

czetie: Both parties, but especially Republicans, need to stop thinking of "Hispanics" as being in any way a homogeneous bloc that can be described as "typical" anything. How far the Republicans are from this is their belief that a Miami-born Cuban-American is appealing to Hispanics.


To say nothing of the fact that people know damned well when you're tossing them a token candidate.
 
2012-11-08 10:59:17 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.


FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.
 
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