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(UPI)   Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says that he will refuse to work with Obama during his second term until he moves to the political center   (upi.com ) divider line
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2012-11-07 07:09:11 PM  

Tigger: SouthParkCon: Qwertyette: InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.

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I vote for more Lemon Pledge.

Why would the Republicans support blanket amnesty for millions upon millions of Democratic voters? Face it, the reason the Left is against any type of voter ID or verification is to allow ALL individuals within an area to vote regardless of citizenship. To a Progressive we are all "Citizen's of the World".

Also Obama shoved the Dream Act through via Executive Order when he didn't get his way. Bush may have utilized Executive Order's as well but his were minor compared to what Obama is going to do.

Welcome to Obama's America, rule by Executive Order.

Tell us more about your election predictions. This can only boost your credibility.


I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP". I tried many years ago and now I just hang around for the lulz. I know you and a vast majority want Fark to be a new Daily KOS but I've been here far longer than my "account created" date and still get a kick outa the site.

Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.
 
2012-11-07 07:12:32 PM  

bdub77: Stoker: Kansas, You farked up again and kept that idiot!

Umm. Wrong state dude.


No shiat. We have enough idiots without getting credit for Yertle the Turtle here.
 
2012-11-07 07:15:09 PM  

sprawl15: Gyrfalcon: TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.

Oh, up yours.

You must prefer vasoline.


www.local361.com

\he seems more like a WD-40 man, to me
 
2012-11-07 07:26:44 PM  

cryinoutloud: Don't you get it, Mitch? The public farking hates you guys. You are failing on an epic scale.


Except they kept the House. And are doing well in a lot of local and state seats of power.
 
2012-11-07 07:29:52 PM  
SouthParkCon: I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP".

Yeah, just from this small sample I can see that your writing skills are mighty. I'm sure we'd be flummoxed.


SouthParkCon: Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution.

Got a cite for this, or should we continue to wait for your "10 page missive"?
 
2012-11-07 07:33:10 PM  

SouthParkCon: I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP". I tried many years ago and now I just hang around for the lulz. I know you and a vast majority want Fark to be a new Daily KOS but I've been here far longer than my "account created" date and still get a kick outa the site.

Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.


If Conservatives learned anything from this, I wish it was that facts matter. Like Silver's book title "The Signal and the Noise".

Bush 2 wasn't being cockblocked like there was no tomorrow. Obama faced a historic level of obstructionism. They literally blocked Obama on stuff they originally proposed. There is undisputed/measurable data showing this. If you are going to make a comparison, make an honest one.

There are facts on either side of an issue but there is also smoke and mirrors on either side of an issue and sometimes there is actually the truth.

I'll give you an example which is fundamental to one of the biggest policy differences between the GOP and Liberals today. Tax cuts for richest Americans does not create jobs or help the economy. This is a fact supported by modern economic principles but also demonstrable through historical data. In fact, the CBO recently released a definitive study on this subject. The study was ignored (like Silver's predictions) because it was the signal and Conservatives want to hear the noise.
 
2012-11-07 07:38:19 PM  

SouthParkCon: I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them


This I eagerly await.
 
2012-11-07 07:41:04 PM  

SouthParkCon: Qwertyette: InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.

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I vote for more Lemon Pledge.

Why would the Republicans support blanket amnesty for millions upon millions of Democratic voters? Face it, the reason the Left is against any type of voter ID or verification is to allow ALL individuals within an area to vote regardless of citizenship. To a Progressive we are all "Citizen's of the World".

Also Obama shoved the Dream Act through via Executive Order when he didn't get his way. Bush may have utilized Executive Order's as well but his were minor compared to what Obama is going to do.

Welcome to Obama's America, rule by Executive Order.


He wouldn't have to resort to that if the right hadn't initiated their "Make Obama a one-term president and do nothing but filibuster, fight, and whine" policy. What else can a man do when the other side gets 98% of what they wanted but cries about not getting 100%, opposes everything he thinks and says and does as part of their "If we can't have it, no one can" mindset, and puts party before country?
 
2012-11-07 07:41:24 PM  

Nadie_AZ: cryinoutloud: Don't you get it, Mitch? The public farking hates you guys. You are failing on an epic scale.

Except they kept the House. And are doing well in a lot of local and state seats of power.


They kept the house through a massively corrupt program of redistricting/gerrymandering.

The popular vote shows who won, plain and simple. LET IT GO.
 
2012-11-07 07:45:23 PM  

SouthParkCon: I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP". I tried many years ago and now I just hang around for the lulz. I know you and a vast majority want Fark to be a new Daily KOS but I've been here far longer than my "account created" date and still get a kick outa the site.

Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.


If you're afraid to post your views, then you're a coward. If you're presuming that everyone here on Fark would automatically call your views derp without even showing them, then you must have no faith in your views. If you have faith in your views, then why not present them? God knows everyone else does, even when they get flamed or trolled without mercy.

The fact that you can say "I hope the Republican block everything the left puts forward" pretty much tells me all I need to know about your "views" and the conviction and beliefs that support them; but I could be wrong? OTOH, the fact that you have a big picture of cheese on your profile leads me to suspect other things about you that might lend credence to my suppositions.
 
2012-11-07 07:49:59 PM  
Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.

So you'd rather destroy the country than have it run by the other side, and you wonder why we cheer when we shut you out?

I expect Obama to run the damn country. If Republicans obstruct everything, then I expect him to do it by Executive Order.

And a majority of Americans agree with me.
 
2012-11-07 07:54:22 PM  
I know Obama's a smart guy. And I'm sure that he has a perspective on dealing with these challenges in a way that I don't have. So I have no doubt that Obama can manage the obstructionists. But I don't just think Barack is smart, I believe in him. I know that he won't just do the smart thing, he'll do the right thing.

That's what's important.
 
2012-11-07 07:55:48 PM  
SouthParkCon:
s17.postimage.org

Conservatives seem to have a lot in common with this character.
 
2012-11-07 07:58:06 PM  

SouthParkCon:
1. I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left.

2. Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution.


So, what you're saying is that you don't see how (1) leads directly to (2), eh?

You know, you may be too stupid to play on Fark.

Class, let's have a show of hands. Is SouthParkCon too stupid to play on Fark?
 
2012-11-07 07:59:48 PM  

SouthParkCon: I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them


No you couldn't. First you'd have to have working brain cells, and then the means to rub them together. You have neither.

and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP".

Just responding in kind. If only you were capable of constructing cogent arguments that didn't make you look like a total disruptive attention whore.
 
Ant
2012-11-07 08:09:01 PM  
1) Take the political compass
2) Throw away all quadrants except the right authoritarian one
3) stick a pin in the center of the remaining quadrant

Congratulations, you are now correctly calibrated to speak about American politicians.
 
2012-11-07 08:09:50 PM  

Ant: 1) Take the political compass
2) Throw away all quadrants except the right authoritarian one
3) stick a pin in the center of the remaining quadrant

Congratulations, you are now correctly calibrated to speak about American politicians.


Yeah, if you're a European.
 
2012-11-07 08:35:22 PM  

whidbey: SouthParkCon: I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them

No you couldn't. First you'd have to have working brain cells, and then the means to rub them together. You have neither.

and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP".

Just responding in kind. If only you were capable of constructing cogent arguments that didn't make you look like a total disruptive attention whore.


I'll just respond to Whidbey since he's a pretty average Fark Progressive and one whom I have mimicked over the last few years.

The point is that no matter what my views are it won't matter due to the fact I identify as a Conservative. The above comments prove my point. Now to rebut...

Executive Orders: The concept of an Executive Order was to allow the President to enact regulation based on existing law or related to the power of the office. What it has become is a "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts" to get around Congress. This is wrong, both by the Right and Left. The latest example of this by Obama is the Dream Act. Point to the current law passed through Congress that would support the Dream Act, you can't because it doesn't exist.

Obstruction: What I want is the Right to be the check and balance within our political system. I don't want one party rule, and you can go look up my posts from the mid-terms in 2010 to back that up, but a system of two parties to come to a middle ground and get things done. The Left is famous for pushing a narrative of "We met 99% of what they want and they aren't budging on 1%". Let's put it this way, how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place. Would that be acceptable by the Pro-Choice crowd? Of course not.

StoneColdAtheist also proves my point regarding the desire of the Fark Left to turn this into an echo chamber, similar to DailyKOS or Free Republic.

As much as the Left hates the fact that all American's don't buy into Progressive Ideology, the fact is that they don't. Yell and scream all you want but to say that a vast majority buy's into it is a false assumption and in this election 60,567,122 sided with Obama and 57,744,506 sided with Romney. That is not an overwhelming majority. Romney would have pissed off his party to work across the aisle, I have zero confidence that Obama will do the same based on his past performance.

Please commence with the childish insults, I have learned from the best and need some new material :).
 
2012-11-07 08:38:11 PM  

SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon:

DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)
 
2012-11-07 08:41:05 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Zapruder: Here's hoping more than a few Republican senators see this as the career suicide that it is and tell him to fark off.

Or they will look at Lugar's seat and realize that if they so much as appear in a photograph with Obama they will be primaried out


Well, if they really looked at Lugar's seat, they might consider working with the Pres. Otherwise they'll be handing the Dems another win and they'll be an even smaller minority next time around, and the need to defend against the filibuster will cease to be a concern. Or they could continue to be incessant crybabbies and keep up the obstructionist BS and end up in the same place by other means.

I like how they've turned the collegial, upper-crusty half of the congress into a elementary school yard. More filibuster in the last 2 congresses than in the previous 100. Guinness book of records. Maybe Tussaud's can make a statue for the turtle looking sumbiatch for the Guinness museum.
 
2012-11-07 08:42:41 PM  

SouthParkCon: words


And you really believe all of that belligerent nonsense, do you?
 
2012-11-07 08:44:48 PM  

SouthParkCon: SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon: DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)


Dude, you're a troll.

Want to shed that negative label?

Too bad.
 
2012-11-07 08:45:12 PM  
As much as I wish Congress and the American People could stop the Obama regime's incompetent plan of austerity during a balance sheet recession, and replace it with some context appropriate Economic policy, focusing on that to the purposeful exclusion of irrelevant social issues*, you're not helping.

go away.

//*which ones are irrelevant? They all are.
//Math is hard, Economics is harder, and finance is scary. I get that. That's why Obama and Friends
//riled up the women with stories of "the men are coming for your ovaries!!!1!!", but please, for the love of //God, can we pretend we live in a world with serious economic problems? And maybe, just maybe,
//address those important problem that impact the nation, before we start rewarding different groups that help get us elected?
 
2012-11-07 08:46:09 PM  

SouthParkCon: "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts"


For the record, it's absurd statements like this that earn you the "derp" responses.
 
2012-11-07 08:48:04 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: the Obama regime's incompetent plan


See responses to SouthParkCon.

Also, the Election's over. You can retire this alt now, unless you're really that big of a chickenshiat about being on the line with other posters.
 
2012-11-07 08:50:27 PM  

Drubell: Drubell: And this is why there's a growing rift between conservatives and freepers in the Republican Party, This is why the Republican Party will continue to lose electrons every time. As long as these people prioritize blocking legislation rather than improving upon it, 51% of America will not accept them. I know that McConnell probably doesn't believe in evolution, but here's a tip for him:

Evolve or die

Well that was bad


I got a charge out of it...
 
2012-11-07 08:51:31 PM  

SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.


You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.
 
2012-11-07 08:54:00 PM  

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.


This just shows how delusional him and people like him are: He compares a heinous assault on basic civil rights and personal sovereignty with the incredibly moderate positions of the Democrats, like a small tax rise on people who are already rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

And this is why I find all conservatives to be basically evil: They talk a lot about "freedom" and "personal responsibility" but they're all violent authoritarians under the skin.
 
2012-11-07 08:54:54 PM  
www.politicalcompass.org

/oblig
 
2012-11-07 08:55:08 PM  

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.


He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.
 
2012-11-07 08:57:50 PM  
None of this is Obama's fault. He has made every possible effort to compromise and recah deals with republicans, based on his many years of experience in making deals happen in Washington before becoming President.

Which means that he has done next to nothing in the way of compromise, because he has no idea how to compromise and very little experience in making deals, and now, no reason to compromise, since he won re-election.

i hopr the Republicans stick to their guns and force spending cuts, or we're just gonna be more and more farked. I'll be looking for a place to retire outside the U.S.
 
2012-11-07 08:59:12 PM  

SouthParkCon: StoneColdAtheist also proves my point regarding the desire of the Fark Left to turn this into an echo chamber, similar to DailyKOS or Free Republic.


I see you declined to address the legitimate issue I raised. This is why you fail.

As much as the Left hates the fact that all American's don't buy into Progressive Ideology, the fact is that they don't. Yell and scream all you want but to say that a vast majority buy's into it is a false assumption and in this election 60,567,122 sided with Obama and 57,744,506 sided with Romney. That is not an overwhelming majority.

Immaterial. Mr Obama has a mandate from the American people, in both the popular vote and the EC, to execute the office of POTUS for the next four years, and he damned well better do it to the best of his ability. Claiming that he lacks an "overwhelming majority" as grounds for obstructing him at every turn is at best arm waving and foot stomping, and arguably violates the oath that the GOP members of Congress themselves take.
 
2012-11-07 09:01:37 PM  

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.


Apparently you missed the point I was trying to make, of course the example is absurd and rightly so. I can't believe you missed that.
 
2012-11-07 09:03:40 PM  

SouthParkCon: Apparently you missed the point I was trying to make, of course the example is absurd and rightly so. I can't believe you missed that.


What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted?
 
2012-11-07 09:04:11 PM  

The Homer Tax: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.


Well then you tell me where your ideology stands. I consider myself a Conservative. Should I go to Whidbey's level and call you Libtard's or Lefty's or something similar? You tell me and I'll use it from now on.
 
2012-11-07 09:07:04 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

This just shows how delusional him and people like him are: He compares a heinous assault on basic civil rights and personal sovereignty with the incredibly moderate positions of the Democrats, like a small tax rise on people who are already rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

And this is why I find all conservatives to be basically evil: They talk a lot about "freedom" and "personal responsibility" but they're all violent authoritarians under the skin.


You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.
 
2012-11-07 09:08:19 PM  

SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.


So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?
 
2012-11-07 09:15:24 PM  

SouthParkCon: The Homer Tax: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.

Well then you tell me where your ideology stands. I consider myself a Conservative. Should I go to Whidbey's level and call you Libtard's or Lefty's or something similar? You tell me and I'll use it from now on.


I'm a left-leaning independent, and that has nothing to do with your silly use of the term "Progressive."

But really the words you use aren't your problem, it's your desire to group an label everyone and then argue against your idea of what those people think rather than what someone is actually saying.

That and your whining about this site and the people that post on here. If you spent half the amount of energy you do on whining instead on quality political discourse, we could be having some good discussions right now.
 
2012-11-07 09:16:38 PM  

Animatronik: None of this is Obama's fault. He has made every possible effort to compromise and recah deals with republicans, based on his many years of experience in making deals happen in Washington before becoming President.

Which means that he has done next to nothing in the way of compromise, because he has no idea how to compromise and very little experience in making deals, and now, no reason to compromise, since he won re-election.

i hopr the Republicans stick to their guns and force spending cuts, or we're just gonna be more and more farked. I'll be looking for a place to retire outside the U.S.


So when the right demands 100% and cries when they get 98%, it's Obama's fault? They filibuster and fight everything that tries to happen, and it's Obama's fault for not rolling over and letting them do it their way? Yeah, that sounds like the party of personal responsibility. Maybe if the right hadn't farked up the country from 2001-2009, we wouldn't have had this problem to begin with.
 
2012-11-07 09:17:34 PM  

whidbey: Hunter_Worthington: the Obama regime's incompetent plan

See responses to SouthParkCon.

Also, the Election's over. You can retire this alt now, unless you're really that big of a chickenshiat about being on the line with other posters.


You're a funny little troll.

if you can't understand what I'm saying this might help.
 
2012-11-07 09:18:13 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?


The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.
 
2012-11-07 09:18:52 PM  
The hilarious thing is that Obama issues ONE executive order which is in fact wholly within his defined powers and it is the end of the costutushun. The previous president's spend 20 years using executive orders to enact laws to their taste, and it is not even worth a mention.

Obama is the nearest thing to a constitutionalist President you have had in many decades, and you are too farking dumb to notice.
 
2012-11-07 09:19:31 PM  

The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.


Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.
 
2012-11-07 09:26:44 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.


I'd love to hear his answer too, but I'm afraid you're not going to get one...
 
2012-11-07 09:33:43 PM  

BuckTurgidson: So, to the left, then?

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
GAT_00: Sweet, big left turn coming up.
Relatively Obscure: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Citrate1007: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Done in 1
buster_v: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
[i121.photobucket.com image 225x350]
Holocaust Agnostic: So, he wants Obama to move left then?
meat0918: So he wants Obama to move left?
Perlin Noise: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
yep
i has an internet: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Done in one.

...oh, I see that's been covered.


NASCAR play-by-play?
 
2012-11-07 09:34:11 PM  
Senator, is the sky pink in your world too?
 
2012-11-07 09:36:16 PM  

The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.


If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.
 
2012-11-07 09:36:23 PM  

Kuroshin: [www.politicalcompass.org image 480x400]

/oblig


Why do people keep posting this graph?

Is it supposed to make us go "AHHHH" or something?

Yes, we know the Democratic Party aren't the libbiest libs who ever libbed.

Also, Nader is 78 years old, and Kucinich is more interested in macrobiotic diets these days. I don't understand the point of putting them on the chart, either.

Get a new one.
 
2012-11-07 09:38:40 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: You're a funny little troll.


Project much?

if you can't understand what I'm saying this might help.

Again, the Election is done. Time to come up with real arguments, not cliches best left to Fark History, where they were done better.
 
2012-11-07 09:58:03 PM  

whidbey: Kuroshin: [www.politicalcompass.org image 480x400]

/oblig

Why do people keep posting this graph?

Is it supposed to make us go "AHHHH" or something?

Yes, we know the Democratic Party aren't the libbiest libs who ever libbed.

Also, Nader is 78 years old, and Kucinich is more interested in macrobiotic diets these days. I don't understand the point of putting them on the chart, either.

Get a new one.


Because Mitch McConnell.

Christ you're thick.

Didja happen to read the topic? If Obama moves toward the center, he'd be moving left. You also missed the "/oblig" slashie at the bottom as well.

whidbey, just retire. You've been embarrassing yourself for a while now. You've been pounded into the dirt in every thread for the past week. Just hang it up. You're tired.
 
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