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(UPI)   Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says that he will refuse to work with Obama during his second term until he moves to the political center   (upi.com) divider line 307
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2012-11-07 01:05:04 PM
So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
 
2012-11-07 01:05:59 PM
but

but
 
2012-11-07 01:06:50 PM
This coming from the same guy that stated his number one goal was to make Obama a one term president?

Keep farking that chicken Mitch. There's just a few feathers left at this point.
 
2012-11-07 01:07:07 PM
"The voters have not endorsed the failures or excesses of the president's first term,

Name ONE you didn't cause.
 
2012-11-07 01:09:07 PM

kingoomieiii: "The voters have not endorsed the failures or excesses of the president's first term,

Name ONE you didn't cause.


Thats not fair!
 
2012-11-07 01:11:55 PM
That's fine Mitch. This means you will also have to move to the center, you lettuce munching turtle bastard.
 
2012-11-07 01:12:38 PM

BunkyBrewman: This coming from the same guy that stated his number one goal was to make Obama a one term president?

Keep farking that chicken Mitch. There's just a few feathers left at this point.


No, he can no longer run on that line- his efforts failed in his goal. Now he has a new goal: simply be an asshole poor loser. He can do that one indefinitely.
 
2012-11-07 01:13:18 PM
That infuriated me. John Cornyn's statement gave me a sliver of hope, though.
 
2012-11-07 01:14:51 PM
Minority leader.
 
2012-11-07 01:15:36 PM
Shouldn't Mitch admit that he failed to do the one most important thing on his agenda during the last four years, and resign in shame?
Or he could look at everything he has done in the last 30 years, and resign in shame. Either way.
 
2012-11-07 01:17:05 PM
Well... good news for Mitch... if he commits himself to preventing Obama from getting ANOTHER term he might just pull that off this time.
 
2012-11-07 01:18:36 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: That's fine Mitch. This means you will also have to move to the center, you lettuce munching turtle bastard.


From the same interview where he made the "one-term" comment.

NJ: What have you learned?
McConnell: After 1994, the public had the impression we Republicans overpromised and underdelivered. We suffered from some degree of hubris and acted as if the president was irrelevant and we would roll over him. By the summer of 1995, he was already on the way to being reelected, and we were hanging on for our lives.
NJ: What does this mean now?
McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us....."
 

Too bad the guy doesn't respect history. He's found himself (and his party) hanging on for their lives... again.
 
2012-11-07 01:19:11 PM

drill_sgt: Well... good news for Mitch... if he commits himself to preventing Obama from getting ANOTHER term he might just pull that off this time.


+funny.
 
2012-11-07 01:21:29 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


Yeah, this idea that Obama is some uber-liberal is laughable.
 
2012-11-07 01:22:05 PM
Sweet, big left turn coming up.

Not that McConnell would ever acknowledge that Obama was in this mythical "center" no matter what position he took. He could finish making the rest of his positions exactly what the GOP wants, and not only would McConnell refuse to agree but he would make his own positions further right just so he could call Obama a liberal.
 
2012-11-07 01:22:45 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

 
2012-11-07 01:23:07 PM
Mitch McConnell, this is your Waterloo.
 
2012-11-07 01:23:45 PM
Also you're a turtle.
 
2012-11-07 01:24:42 PM
The word career politician should be a dirty word.
 
2012-11-07 01:33:41 PM

Nadie_AZ: No, he can no longer run on that line- his efforts failed in his goal. Now he has a new goal: simply be an asshole poor loser. He can do that one indefinitely.


Maybe not.

*fingers crossed*
 
2012-11-07 01:34:12 PM
I wonder if there are any rules changes that could be pushed through at the beginning of next term that might hinder the GOP obstruction efforts.
 
2012-11-07 01:46:03 PM
Voters seemed to have endorsed the living shiat out of Obama. When is this asshole's term up?
 
2012-11-07 01:49:20 PM
Mitch is a biatch.
 
2012-11-07 02:10:25 PM
What is the political centre on no tax increases for the rich versus tax increases on the rich? They signed a pledge not to move an inch towards the centre on this.

Obama ran on increasing taxes to the rich. That is something he couldn't have been farking clearer on. A majority of Americans support this in polling?

To me the Buffet rule was a fair compromise. Don't touch the tax rates, just close some of the ridiculous loopholes.
 
2012-11-07 02:20:15 PM
Damn pronouns... I thought Mitch was saying HE was moving towards the "center"
 
2012-11-07 02:43:08 PM
Get used to it. This is what we're going to get for the next 2-4 years. Obama is an extremist liberal and if only he'd compromise with the sensible, moderate Republicans we'd get America fixed in no time. It's his own fault, you see.
 
2012-11-07 03:20:37 PM
Obama 2.0

/this one doesn't care about his poll numbers
 
2012-11-07 03:46:52 PM
it's now been two elections in a row that you were prevented winning a majority thanks to your teabagger extremist friends, mitchy. you might want to tone down the rhetoric, mmmkay?
 
2012-11-07 03:58:34 PM

Political Science 101: The Grand Bargain is the sort of thing you might be forced into if you DIDN'T just kick ass in a national election.

- David Waldman (@KagroX) November 7, 2012



Obama campaigned on raising taxes on the rich and walked to reelection. Dems are already bending over.
 
2012-11-07 04:04:20 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Political Science 101: The Grand Bargain is the sort of thing you might be forced into if you DIDN'T just kick ass in a national election.- David Waldman (@KagroX) November 7, 2012


Obama campaigned on raising taxes on the rich and walked to reelection. Dems are already bending over.


Obama has a 52% approval rating. When Congress has an approval rating higher than Jerry Sandusky, they can ask Obama for permission to offer an opinion once and awhile.
 
2012-11-07 04:08:37 PM

mrshowrules: When Congress has an approval rating higher than Jerry Sandusky...

ouch!
 
2012-11-07 04:09:15 PM
Mitch McConnell's new goal is to ensure the Democrats are a two-term party.

The general consensus is that the economy is going to improve over the next four years, and if the GOP doesn't do everything in its power to make the 2nd Obama administration look ineffectual and extreme, then they will have to deal with 4-8 years of Hillary. Not only does that prospect scare the bejeezus out of them, but the older conservative Supreme Court justices just can't hold out for another 8-12 years.
 
2012-11-07 04:12:18 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


Done in 1
 
2012-11-07 04:12:49 PM
i.imgur.com

You FAILED, McConnell. You failed in the single most important thing you said you wanted for four years.

Fall on your sword for you party and country.
 
2012-11-07 04:13:05 PM
When did turtle neck become the majority leader?
 
2012-11-07 04:13:44 PM
As a Kentuckian, allow me to apologize for this chicken-farking turtle motherfarker. I have never, ever voted for him and nothing would make me happier than to see him go.

Add Rand Paul to that. We're sorry.
 
2012-11-07 04:13:57 PM
Party above Country obviously didn't work GOP.
 
2012-11-07 04:14:22 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


Grr, I used that as my headline and got redlit. I'm worse at elections than Karl Rove.
 
2012-11-07 04:15:59 PM
Look, It's not MY fault I've been so obstructionist and unreasonable the last four years! If he'd only been more like me, I'd have been glad to work with him?

--and how would that have been, Senator?

More white!
 
2012-11-07 04:16:03 PM
fark this guy.
 
2012-11-07 04:16:18 PM

mrshowrules: Obama 2.0


upload.wikimedia.org

We can only hope he'll become the arm twister now. Really take them on.
 
2012-11-07 04:16:34 PM
Already being a giant douchebag, what a surprise. These same tards are whining about Obama's revenge comment. I hope Obama does take revenge on people like this.
 
2012-11-07 04:16:54 PM
We will have to wait for the big money on wall street to tell them to knock it off. They'll listen to that. If they want to raise money, they gotta listen to the money bags.
 
2012-11-07 04:17:35 PM
After YOU, turtle man.
 
2012-11-07 04:17:44 PM
Ugh, why do these dicks always have to be from Kentucky?
 
2012-11-07 04:18:02 PM

Mmmrky: Minority leader.


I came to ask if anyone had pointed out that McConnell is the Senate Minority Leader, but I see my work is done.

/tips hat
 
2012-11-07 04:18:52 PM

And yet teabaggers - apparently with all sincerity - insist that it is Obama that refuses to "reach out"

Mourdock lost, but his attitude is alive and well

MOURDOCK: "I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view"
 
2012-11-07 04:18:55 PM
If Reid revamps the filibuster, MINORITY Leader McConnell would be a sitting duck.
 
2012-11-07 04:21:55 PM
The USA has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists.
 
2012-11-07 04:22:14 PM
"The American people did two things: They gave President Obama a second chance to fix the problems that even he admits he failed to solve during his first four years in office, and they preserved Republican control of the House of Representatives," McConnell said in a statement.

Yeah, they also preserved Democrat control of the Senate, Mr Minority Leader.
 
2012-11-07 04:22:41 PM
And this is why there's a growing rift between conservatives and freepers in the Republican Party, This is why the Republican Party will continue to lose electrons every time. As long as these people prioritize blocking legislation rather than improving upon it, 51% of America will not accept them. I know that McConnell probably doesn't believe in evolution, but here's a tip for him:

Evolve or die
 
2012-11-07 04:22:48 PM
So he wants Obama to become a right wing Republican, then he will work with him. Got it.

/these people are farking nuts
 
2012-11-07 04:22:55 PM

Zerochance: As a Kentuckian, allow me to apologize for this chicken-farking turtle motherfarker. I have never, ever voted for him and nothing would make me happier than to see him go.

Add Rand Paul to that. We're sorry.


as a new kentucky resident, lets work on getting this asshole out. if that doesn't work, lets have the golden triangle break off into it's own state of NKY. (maybe we can get cincy to join it, good for me, I don't know where you live).

I mean, with PR wanting to be a state now, we might as well do some map redrawing on the main land.
 
2012-11-07 04:23:17 PM

Citrate1007: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

Done in 1


Oh, are the political naifs still pushing this on Fark? That's cute.
 
2012-11-07 04:23:26 PM

Drubell: And this is why there's a growing rift between conservatives and freepers in the Republican Party, This is why the Republican Party will continue to lose electrons every time. As long as these people prioritize blocking legislation rather than improving upon it, 51% of America will not accept them. I know that McConnell probably doesn't believe in evolution, but here's a tip for him:

Evolve or die


Well that was bad
 
2012-11-07 04:23:32 PM
Kansas, You farked up again and kept that idiot!
 
2012-11-07 04:23:44 PM
Whatever you say, Former Minority Leader
 
2012-11-07 04:24:07 PM
Majority? Did I miss something last night?
 
2012-11-07 04:24:19 PM

Altair: Citrate1007: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

Done in 1

Oh, are the political naifs still pushing this on Fark? That's cute.


But they have a chart!
 
2012-11-07 04:24:21 PM
Obama is SO uncooperative and partisan!!
 
2012-11-07 04:25:01 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


i121.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-07 04:25:26 PM
Wow, just wow. Somehow, in my vigilance, I overlooked my own state results. WTF?!! Mitch actually took it again. *sniff*

It's now official- end of days is nigh.
 
2012-11-07 04:26:29 PM

Stoker: Kansas, You farked up again and kept that idiot!


Umm. Wrong state dude.
 
2012-11-07 04:26:35 PM
Offers of 9 parts cuts and 1 part revenue need to laid out and proposed once a week 50 weeks a year, and in as public a manner as possible until the American people see who is willing to, and unwilling to, compromise. Every week, every person who is insisting on being a part of Grover's pledge should be repeated by the president in a daily speech.
 
2012-11-07 04:27:10 PM
Mitch McConnell is a farking asshole.
 
2012-11-07 04:28:25 PM
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2012-11-07 04:28:43 PM
Here's hoping more than a few Republican senators see this as the career suicide that it is and tell him to fark off.
 
2012-11-07 04:29:17 PM

Mmmrky: Minority leader.


Came to mention this... although the Repuglicans are still in denial about that fact.
 
2012-11-07 04:29:54 PM

Zapruder: Here's hoping more than a few Republican senators see this as the career suicide that it is and tell him to fark off.


Or they will look at Lugar's seat and realize that if they so much as appear in a photograph with Obama they will be primaried out
 
2012-11-07 04:30:33 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Political Science 101: The Grand Bargain is the sort of thing you might be forced into if you DIDN'T just kick ass in a national election.- David Waldman (@KagroX) November 7, 2012


Obama campaigned on raising taxes on the rich and walked to reelection. Dems are already bending over.


In all fairness, Boehner (or Cantor, however you want to spin it) controls the House.

There has to be some level of agreement between both sides.

Now, my opinion has always been that there are enough Republicans in the House who would go along with a moderate bill to pass, but Boehner still is the one who controls the docket.
 
2012-11-07 04:31:44 PM
This from a party that would consider Dwight Eisenhower an Alinski loving,card carrying commie.
 
2012-11-07 04:32:03 PM

DeltaPunch: [img571.imageshack.us image 498x380]


The sad thing is, with all the "HE HAS SHREDDED THE CONSTITUTION" bullshiat going around, a lot of people will consider this a noble and vital agenda
 
2012-11-07 04:32:17 PM

Drubell: Drubell: And this is why there's a growing rift between conservatives and freepers in the Republican Party, This is why the Republican Party will continue to lose electrons every time. As long as these people prioritize blocking legislation rather than improving upon it, 51% of America will not accept them. I know that McConnell probably doesn't believe in evolution, but here's a tip for him:

Evolve or die

Well that was bad


Kudos for catching the typo, but in the future you need to keep a closer ion what you type...
 
2012-11-07 04:32:22 PM

Somacandra: We can only hope he'll become the arm twister now. Really take them on.


That really is not Obama's style. Obama has something the Republicans want; tax cuts. To get the tax cut the Republicans want they might have to agree to have them wrapped in a jobs bill for companies the repatriate jobs. Everyone wins.
 
2012-11-07 04:32:53 PM
That's Republican-style bipartisanship.
 
2012-11-07 04:33:18 PM
So, he wants Obama to move left then?
 
2012-11-07 04:33:38 PM
There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.
 
2012-11-07 04:34:30 PM

EighthDay: n all fairness, Boehner (or Cantor, however you want to spin it) controls the House.

There has to be some level of agreement between both sides.

Now, my opinion has always been that there are enough Republicans in the House who would go along with a moderate bill to pass, but Boehner still is the one who controls the docket.


Also, the WH and Senate Ds haven't agreed to anything. I was being a bit pessimistic.
 
2012-11-07 04:35:10 PM
The Bush tax cuts completely expire without Obama having to lift a finger, much less meet McConnell halfway.
 
2012-11-07 04:35:50 PM
So when does McConnell plan this move to the political center?
 
2012-11-07 04:36:30 PM
So he wants Obama to move left?
 
2012-11-07 04:36:58 PM

Muta: Somacandra: We can only hope he'll become the arm twister now. Really take them on.

That really is not Obama's style. Obama has something the Republicans want; tax cuts. To get the tax cut the Republicans want they might have to agree to have them wrapped in a jobs bill for companies the repatriate jobs. Everyone wins.


There isn't going to be tax cuts.Maybe corporate tax cuts, but there won't be indidual tax cuts for the wealthy ,no matter how badly the GOP wants them.
 
2012-11-07 04:36:59 PM
Orange Cheeto weeping
The ni*bong* sheriff returns
Time for more bronzer!
 
2012-11-07 04:37:00 PM
Am I seeing a twisted reflection of Gingrich/Clinton?

img2-cdn.newser.com
 
2012-11-07 04:37:13 PM

InmanRoshi: The Bush tax cuts completely expire without Obama having to lift a finger, much less meet McConnell halfway.


A trillion will be be cut from the budget -- including defense -- unless everyone plays nice. That was the 98% of what Boner wanted.
 
2012-11-07 04:38:04 PM

BunkyBrewman: This coming from the same guy that stated his number one goal was to make Obama a one term president?

Keep farking that chicken Mitch. There's just a few feathers left at this point.


I'm sure plucked chicken is not much different then shaved pussy.

I'm seriously hoping for some major advances over the next 4 years. Barry's now a lame duck with nothing to prove (this could be a good thing for all constituency), the GOP has no further need to stymie America's forward progression again as Barry won't be re-elected if progress is achieved- in short, unprecedented cooperation toward advancement in which we can all claim a share to not seen in 20 years.

Even we conservatives can hope.

Oh, if it's not too much to ask, the banning of attack adds. If you can't sell a product on its merits, maybe its not worth selling.
 
2012-11-07 04:38:19 PM
Obama will not compromise with the right this term. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. He knows the meaning of compromise by the right: accept our plans or you're not compromising. So he will fight back.
 
2012-11-07 04:38:47 PM

sweetmelissa31: Mitch McConnell, this is your Waterloo.


he will finally surrender to the romantic advances of a "turtle"?
 
2012-11-07 04:38:59 PM
Man McConnell, you had Romney give a unity concession and Obama give a unity victory speech, going all obstruction right now, bad idea.
 
2012-11-07 04:39:17 PM
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says that he will refuse to work with Obama during his second term until he moves to the political center

Honestly, the Senate should censure political extremists like McConnell.

He has no place to be making statements like this. God knows how many billions of dollars were wasted putting up with the right-wingers in Congress acting like spoiled children.
 
2012-11-07 04:39:53 PM

EighthDay: Dusk-You-n-Me: Political Science 101: The Grand Bargain is the sort of thing you might be forced into if you DIDN'T just kick ass in a national election.- David Waldman (@KagroX) November 7, 2012


Obama campaigned on raising taxes on the rich and walked to reelection. Dems are already bending over.

In all fairness, Boehner (or Cantor, however you want to spin it) controls the House.

There has to be some level of agreement between both sides.

Now, my opinion has always been that there are enough Republicans in the House who would go along with a moderate bill to pass, but Boehner still is the one who controls the docket.


The Bush taxcuts automatically expire on December 31st. 600 billion in defense spending cuts over the next 10 years get automatically implemented n January 1st.

And Boehner can't do shiat about it without the Senate and Obama ratifiying an alternative he passes to the House.
 
2012-11-07 04:39:58 PM

Lost Thought 00: Zapruder: Here's hoping more than a few Republican senators see this as the career suicide that it is and tell him to fark off.

Or they will look at Lugar's seat and realize that if they so much as appear in a photograph with Obama they will be primaried out


That just means go all the way and declare yourself a Democrat. Cut a deal where the Dems will fund you in the primary and tolerate a certain degree of Blue Dog behavior out of you in exchange for you coming over. Then run like hell. Either you go hard core Tea Party and the moderates turn on you in the general or the Tea Party comes for you in the primary. Go Dem and try to the right of center moderates over with you.
 
2012-11-07 04:40:48 PM
Really Mitch? What more can Obama do for Galapagos-Americans?
 
2012-11-07 04:41:10 PM

kingoomieiii: "The voters have not endorsed the failures or excesses of the president's first term,

Name ONE you didn't cause.


He's not responsible for Obama being a niBONG
 
2012-11-07 04:42:40 PM
I want Boehner and McConnell sitting in a room at the White House when, suddenly, they hear someone whistling "The Farmer in the Dell" on the other side of the door.

Slowly the door opens and Barack Obama, dressed in a long black duster and body armor, walks in. He stares into their eyes for a moment, reaches into a side pocket, pulls out a pack of Newports (soft pack), puts one to his lips, lights it, takes a long drag, blows smoke in their direction and says in a deep voice: "The Cheese stands alone."
 
2012-11-07 04:43:38 PM

kingoomieiii: "The voters have not endorsed the failures or excesses of the president's first term,

I kind fo think they did when they RE-ELECTED HIM you stupid farking turtle
 
2012-11-07 04:44:20 PM

ha-ha-guy: Lost Thought 00: Zapruder: Here's hoping more than a few Republican senators see this as the career suicide that it is and tell him to fark off.

Or they will look at Lugar's seat and realize that if they so much as appear in a photograph with Obama they will be primaried out

That just means go all the way and declare yourself a Democrat. Cut a deal where the Dems will fund you in the primary and tolerate a certain degree of Blue Dog behavior out of you in exchange for you coming over. Then run like hell. Either you go hard core Tea Party and the moderates turn on you in the general or the Tea Party comes for you in the primary. Go Dem and try to the right of center moderates over with you.


Worked well for Senator Specter. Oh, wait...
 
2012-11-07 04:44:54 PM
Reform the filibuster and force this farker to hold the floor every time he wants to hold up legislation. Make him explain to the American people why he's actively and publicly preventing progress rather than doing so anonymously and with no consequences.

Make the filibuster a tool of principled dissent, not obstructionism.
 
2012-11-07 04:45:06 PM
McConnell's top priority now is losing the 2016 presidential elections apparently.
 
2012-11-07 04:45:13 PM

TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.


Oh, up yours.
 
2012-11-07 04:45:47 PM

dericwater: Obama will not compromise with the right this term.


Obama has to work with Congress to accomplish any goals and half of Congress is the House. He will have to accommodate some of their wishes. Obama is in a much stronger bargaining position now. The Republicans have to go through him to get tax cuts they want. 50% of Sequestration is supposed to target defense spending. If a republican wants to save some jobs in their district, they'll need to work with Obama. Obama is in a much stronger position than last term but he will need to comprise.

The more I think about this, the GOP plan was to ensure Obama wasn't reelected. They had no Plan B.
 
2012-11-07 04:47:19 PM
As a lifelong Kentuckian, I am not exaggerating when I say that this man has haunted my dreams since I was a child.

squathole.files.wordpress.com

media.salon.com
 
2012-11-07 04:47:34 PM
Mutherfarkers lost the election 332 - 209, still don't have the Senate, and they're STILL acting like they set the agenda.

Fark them. Elections have consequences. Period.
 
2012-11-07 04:47:48 PM
Please proceed, Senator.
 
2012-11-07 04:47:57 PM

Gyrfalcon: TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.

Oh, up yours.


You must prefer vasoline.
 
2012-11-07 04:47:58 PM
That's great.

I wonder if the Senator is aware that the things he doesn't want to happen will happen unless he comes to the table wherever Obama decides to set it up?
 
2012-11-07 04:48:10 PM
I'm all for throwing a bag of knives into the chamber and locking the doors until a clear victor emerges.
 
2012-11-07 04:48:14 PM

clowncar on fire: Wow, just wow. Somehow, in my vigilance, I overlooked my own state results. WTF?!! Mitch actually took it again. *sniff*

It's now official- end of days is nigh.


And Barr beat Chandler. I swear, if I ever meet whoever came up with all the lying, misleading, fearmongering fliers that the Barr campaign kept sending me leading up to the election I will punch them in the face. 

The Presidential race county-by-county results for KY were quite amusing though in a sad way... Just a few lonely blue counties in a sea of red- and yet those small counties accounted for about 2/5 of the total population. :p
 
2012-11-07 04:48:23 PM

kingoomieiii: "The voters have not endorsed the failures or excesses of the president's first term,

Name ONE you didn't cause.


Oop, there we go, partisan politics right out of the gate!
 
2012-11-07 04:48:53 PM

Muta: InmanRoshi: The Bush tax cuts completely expire without Obama having to lift a finger, much less meet McConnell halfway.

A trillion will be be cut from the budget -- including defense -- unless everyone plays nice. That was the 98% of what Boner wanted.


A trillion over 10 years, half of that is military spending, to be exact.

The worst possible scenerio for Democrats that both sides have to eat shiat on a deal. The difference is, Democrats are well familiar with the taste after years and years of horrible, horrible, horrible negotations on their part. The GOP can't just hold the country hostage with a gun to it's head and get everything they want this time.
 
2012-11-07 04:49:07 PM

Uncle Pim: McConnell's top priority now is losing the 2016 presidential elections apparently.


It's either that, or - stay with me - he's got a foolproof plan to make sure Obama is only a two-term president.
 
2012-11-07 04:49:19 PM
will one of you skilled shooperz pleeeease fix granny McConnell's mug to some old broad serving up a turkey or some baked goods

/PLEASE!
 
2012-11-07 04:49:49 PM

Muta: The more I think about this, the GOP plan was to ensure Obama wasn't reelected. They had no Plan B.


I think this is absolutely right.
 
2012-11-07 04:49:57 PM

sprawl15: Gyrfalcon: TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.

Oh, up yours.

You must prefer vasoline.


Tiger Balm.
 
2012-11-07 04:50:10 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


yep
 
2012-11-07 04:50:13 PM

qorkfiend: I wonder if the Senator is aware that the things he doesn't want to happen will happen unless he comes to the table wherever Obama decides to set it up?


...with his shine box, preferably.

The more and harder these idiots derp, the fewer people they'll find voting for them in each election. At this point, to hell with bipartisanship -- to paraphrase a recent loser, let 'em fail.
 
2012-11-07 04:51:48 PM

Gyrfalcon: TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.

Oh, up yours.


Pretty sure I see what you did there and am amused.

/Otherwise Explanation etc.
 
2012-11-07 04:51:54 PM
I already said in another thread today the Republicans are going to fight Obama on everything. They will do so to the point they will get blown out in '14 and lose the House and possibly more Senate seats. They will also put themselves in a bad spot for '16
 
2012-11-07 04:51:57 PM

dericwater: Obama will not compromise with the right this term. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. He knows the meaning of compromise by the right: accept our plans or you're not compromising. So he will fight back.


According to last night's election results, he'll be out numbered and probably not get much done without some sort of compromise. I think the whole point of playing fill in the blanks (or poking the touchscreen) was that all Americans would have a chance at representation by their elected officials. Sadly, not all these elected members are not going to necessarily reflect your view on how things should be run, nor will they always reflect the POTUS desires. That's trhe beauty of a republic- ALL of us get a say through our elected officials, not just the ones who voted for Obama. Seems like all that counting would have become a pointless endeavor if Barry was just gonna wander off and do whatever the hell he saw fit; definitely counter productive to compromise and progression.
 
2012-11-07 04:52:10 PM

James!: I wonder if there are any rules changes that could be pushed through at the beginning of next term that might hinder the GOP obstruction efforts.


Obama could just rule via executive order and signing statement. Seemed to work like a charm for the last guy.
 
2012-11-07 04:53:02 PM
s11.postimage.org
 
2012-11-07 04:55:08 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: He's not responsible for Obama being a niBONG


For what it's worth, they did make it. They really did. No matter how many times they almost slipped over the line, they never formally crossed the Ni-*CLANG* Event Horizon. Codewords, dog whistles, outright racism and hilarious trackbacks (blah people? really?) but when push comes to shove they managed to grit their teeth and not say that word on national TV for like a whole year.

I will admit: I didn't think they'd do it.
 
2012-11-07 04:55:20 PM
I've lived in Kentucky my entire life and have not met anyone who likes McConnell, so I assume the crazy rural people vote for him. So, I will apologize for the people who sent him, Rand Paul, and Andy Barr to Washington.
 
2012-11-07 04:55:24 PM

strapp3r: will one of you skilled shooperz pleeeease fix granny McConnell's mug to some old broad serving up a turkey or some baked goods

/PLEASE!


I'd prefer him in a turtle montage. To the internet!
 
2012-11-07 04:57:27 PM
I'd like to beat McConnell until his shell cracks
 
2012-11-07 04:59:10 PM

Muta: The more I think about this, the GOP plan was to ensure Obama wasn't reelected. They had no Plan B.


It's against their religion.
 
2012-11-07 05:00:00 PM
I would find it mildly amusing if the Obama campaign's much-vaunted "ground game" started moving their key operatives to bases in Kentucky tomorrow. Maybe it is time to send a message.

/elections have consequences, perhaps
 
2012-11-07 05:01:20 PM

extroverted_suicide: James!: I wonder if there are any rules changes that could be pushed through at the beginning of next term that might hinder the GOP obstruction efforts.

Obama could just rule via executive order and signing statement. Seemed to work like a charm for the last guy.


That's probably what will happen. McConnell knows he's on the chopping block in 2014. And if he thinks backing a losing Tea Party will gain him any favors, he's sadly mistaken. I'm half surprised the GOP hasn't thrown him and Boehner out of power for this fiasco.
 
2012-11-07 05:01:44 PM
Most of the reporting I've read today on John Boehner's post-election messaging on the Bush tax cuts is too savvy and inside baseball to correctly convey what's happening. So here's what's happening. The Bush tax cuts are scheduled to fully expire at the end of the year. Barack Obama does not favor this large tax increase and is proposing substitute legislation that would reduce taxes relative to current law. House Republicans are refusing to pass this tax cut, claiming to believe that they'd rather have a larger tax hike and retain the ability to whine than to strike a deal. Link
 
2012-11-07 05:05:49 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Most of the reporting I've read today on John Boehner's post-election messaging on the Bush tax cuts is too savvy and inside baseball to correctly convey what's happening. So here's what's happening. The Bush tax cuts are scheduled to fully expire at the end of the year. Barack Obama does not favor this large tax increase and is proposing substitute legislation that would reduce taxes relative to current law. House Republicans are refusing to pass this tax cut, claiming to believe that they'd rather have a larger tax hike and retain the ability to whine than to strike a deal. Link


Holy shiat.

#DITCHMITCH2014
 
2012-11-07 05:07:07 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: EighthDay: n all fairness, Boehner (or Cantor, however you want to spin it) controls the House.

There has to be some level of agreement between both sides.

Now, my opinion has always been that there are enough Republicans in the House who would go along with a moderate bill to pass, but Boehner still is the one who controls the docket.

Also, the WH and Senate Ds haven't agreed to anything. I was being a bit pessimistic.


And rightly so - the Dems bending over backwards for the past four years has been pretty consistent.

The Dems do have the upper hand in this negotiation, so hopefully they'll use it.
 
2012-11-07 05:08:54 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: extroverted_suicide: James!: I wonder if there are any rules changes that could be pushed through at the beginning of next term that might hinder the GOP obstruction efforts.

Obama could just rule via executive order and signing statement. Seemed to work like a charm for the last guy.

That's probably what will happen. McConnell knows he's on the chopping block in 2014. And if he thinks backing a losing Tea Party will gain him any favors, he's sadly mistaken. I'm half surprised the GOP hasn't thrown him and Boehner out of power for this fiasco.


Right now, does the GOP really know who is in charge? Those that heralded the arrival of the now-deposed Tea Party? The obstructionists that guaranteed a one term President? The moderates that warned them this would happen?
 
2012-11-07 05:08:57 PM
Someone find this guys secret turtle sex videos already so we can push him into early retirement.
 
2012-11-07 05:09:17 PM

Ashyukun: clowncar on fire: Wow, just wow. Somehow, in my vigilance, I overlooked my own state results. WTF?!! Mitch actually took it again. *sniff*

It's now official- end of days is nigh.

And Barr beat Chandler. I swear, if I ever meet whoever came up with all the lying, misleading, fearmongering fliers that the Barr campaign kept sending me leading up to the election I will punch them in the face. 

The Presidential race county-by-county results for KY were quite amusing though in a sad way... Just a few lonely blue counties in a sea of red- and yet those small counties accounted for about 2/5 of the total population. :p


So who do we need to elect in the next go-around to ensure that the "bussing" issue is finally staked and buried properly. Something is wrong when your city has the second largest bus centric public education system and yet you don't break the top 20 in urban population.
 
2012-11-07 05:10:15 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: That's fine Mitch. This means you will also have to move to the center, you lettuce munching turtle bastard.


I lold
 
2012-11-07 05:10:29 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Most of the reporting I've read today on John Boehner's post-election messaging on the Bush tax cuts is too savvy and inside baseball to correctly convey what's happening. So here's what's happening. The Bush tax cuts are scheduled to fully expire at the end of the year. Barack Obama does not favor this large tax increase and is proposing substitute legislation that would reduce taxes relative to current law. House Republicans are refusing to pass this tax cut, claiming to believe that they'd rather have a larger tax hike and retain the ability to whine than to strike a deal. Link


Well, let them expire, then instruct the IRS by executive order to collect less tax as needed. Not sure that such an order can be given though.
 
2012-11-07 05:11:36 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Most of the reporting I've read today on John Boehner's post-election messaging on the Bush tax cuts is too savvy and inside baseball to correctly convey what's happening. So here's what's happening. The Bush tax cuts are scheduled to fully expire at the end of the year. Barack Obama does not favor this large tax increase and is proposing substitute legislation that would reduce taxes relative to current law. House Republicans are refusing to pass this tax cut, claiming to believe that they'd rather have a larger tax hike and retain the ability to whine than to strike a deal. Link


I read Woodward's book ... it's prettty obvious the GOP Congress care more worried about what they'll tell their Derpy Districts back home than they actually were about striking a comprehensive deal. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see it play out exactly this way. The Derpy Congress folk can go back home in 2014 and say "Don't look at me, I stood tall fer teh Derp and refused to negotiate."

Personally, I have no problem with letting the Bush taxcuts completely expire and letting the sequestration go into effect. The media goes on and on about how "substantial" changes need to be made and we can't just "kick the can down the road" and that the debt is by far the single biggest issue facing the country, but now they're all running around like maniacs trembling at the possibility that it might actually really happen.
 
2012-11-07 05:12:00 PM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-07 05:12:31 PM

Mr_Fabulous: Muta: The more I think about this, the GOP plan was to ensure Obama wasn't reelected. They had no Plan B.

I think this is absolutely right.


Well, being anti-choice, they voted to not allow Plan B in almost any health coverage.
 
2012-11-07 05:14:24 PM
Fark you, McConnell, you worthless piece of shiat cock sucking asshole.

I could go on, but I won't.
 
2012-11-07 05:15:29 PM

Carn: [i50.tinypic.com image 250x202]


ha!
 
2012-11-07 05:15:49 PM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-07 05:16:32 PM
it's high time we distribute those nancy boy pictures from mitch's army days
 
2012-11-07 05:16:48 PM

Lando Lincoln: Fark you, McConnell, you worthless piece of shiat cock sucking asshole.

I could go on, but I won't.


Finally, something both we repugs and libtards can agree on!
 
2012-11-07 05:17:41 PM
I always thought, the first time around, that Obama should've just told the republicans "fine, you want 100% spending decrease, 0% revenue increase. I want 0% spending 100% revenue. The middle is 50/50 and that's our starting point." He shouldn't have set 90/10 as the starting point of negotiations.
 
2012-11-07 05:18:02 PM

Drubell: This is why the Republican Party will continue to lose electrons every time.


I'd be in favor of them becoming a bit more positive in their outlook...
 
2012-11-07 05:18:17 PM

Martin Silenus: AdolfOliverPanties: That's fine Mitch. This means you will also have to move to the center, you lettuce munching turtle bastard.

I lold


y u laf at me?
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-07 05:19:03 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 617x231]

You FAILED, McConnell. You failed in the single most important thing you said you wanted for four years.

Fall on your sword for you party and country.


I wish EVERY SINGLE TIME a reporter talks to McConnell from now until eternity, no matter WHAT the subject is, that this quote is repeated followed by the question: "If you failed in the single most important thing you needed to do, why have you not resigned and left politics in disgrace?"
 
2012-11-07 05:19:04 PM

TalenLee: Gyrfalcon: TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.

Oh, up yours.

Pretty sure I see what you did there and am amused.

/Otherwise Explanation etc.


Oh no, you're quite right. I couldn't think of any other way that wouldn't get filtrated.
 
2012-11-07 05:19:30 PM
this is why the republitards lost
 
2012-11-07 05:20:02 PM
The headline makes perfect sense as long as "he" refers to McConnell.
 
2012-11-07 05:20:44 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: That's fine Mitch. This means you will also have to move to the center, you lettuce munching turtle bastard.


i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-07 05:20:57 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-07 05:21:22 PM

clowncar on fire: dericwater: Obama will not compromise with the right this term. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. He knows the meaning of compromise by the right: accept our plans or you're not compromising. So he will fight back.

According to last night's election results, he'll be out numbered and probably not get much done without some sort of compromise. I think the whole point of playing fill in the blanks (or poking the touchscreen) was that all Americans would have a chance at representation by their elected officials. Sadly, not all these elected members are not going to necessarily reflect your view on how things should be run, nor will they always reflect the POTUS desires. That's trhe beauty of a republic- ALL of us get a say through our elected officials, not just the ones who voted for Obama. Seems like all that counting would have become a pointless endeavor if Barry was just gonna wander off and do whatever the hell he saw fit; definitely counter productive to compromise and progression.


Outnumbered? Yes. But the debt ceiling fiasco and the sequestration have the GOP on a no-win situation... and has Obama and the Dems in a position that, while not ideal, is something they can tolerate. That's the point... this time if the GOP decides not to cooperate in any way, shape, or form... everyone suffers, but the GOP suffers much more than anyone else. Obama doing absolutely nothing for the next few months will cause military spending to take a huge hit, along with interest payments, Medicare, Education, and others from the discretionary budget. The Bush Tax Cuts will also expire, which is an entirely different matter altogether.

But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.
 
2012-11-07 05:21:29 PM
Mitch McConnell: The reason the GOP are losers.
 
2012-11-07 05:22:24 PM
i46.tinypic.com

Turtle-Americans
 
2012-11-07 05:23:01 PM

lennavan: "The American people did two things: They gave President Obama a second chance to fix the problems that even he admits he failed to solve during his first four years in office, and they preserved Republican control of the House of Representatives," McConnell said in a statement.

Yeah, they also preserved Democrat control of the Senate, Mr Minority Leader.


"The American people voted to make Barack Obama a lame-duck president."

Hey Turtle Face, hope you have enough clout to block the inevitable nom to the SCOTUS that Obama should get a crack at.
 
2012-11-07 05:26:51 PM
i45.tinypic.com

Last one I promise.
 
2012-11-07 05:28:13 PM

Blue_Blazer: Dusk-You-n-Me: Most of the reporting I've read today on John Boehner's post-election messaging on the Bush tax cuts is too savvy and inside baseball to correctly convey what's happening. So here's what's happening. The Bush tax cuts are scheduled to fully expire at the end of the year. Barack Obama does not favor this large tax increase and is proposing substitute legislation that would reduce taxes relative to current law. House Republicans are refusing to pass this tax cut, claiming to believe that they'd rather have a larger tax hike and retain the ability to whine than to strike a deal. Link

Holy shiat.

#DITCHMITCH2014


I'd rather see him charged with high treason, but booting him out on his wrinkly ass is okay too.
 
2012-11-07 05:30:26 PM
ionlywatch18s.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-07 05:33:02 PM
Obama gave him 98% of what he wanted, reached out to him and the right many times, and how does Mitch repay him? With even more biatching, whining, demanding 100%, and complaining about Obama being "too far left", never mind that for Republicans "too far left" is anything to the left of center-right. And now here Mitch is, saying he'll do whatever it takes to keep America, THE COUNTRY HE LIVES IN AND HELPS DECIDE ON IMPORTANT MATTERS, as much as a shiathole as he can out of spite, anger, and hate, which was his policy for the last four years.

Fark you, Mitch. You're the very definition of a traitor. Instead of being a spiteful little biatch, try working on helping to fix this country. And that goes to all of your obstructionist Republicans out there.
 
2012-11-07 05:34:28 PM

quiotu: clowncar on fire: dericwater: Obama will not compromise with the right this term. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. He knows the meaning of compromise by the right: accept our plans or you're not compromising. So he will fight back.

According to last night's election results, he'll be out numbered and probably not get much done without some sort of compromise. I think the whole point of playing fill in the blanks (or poking the touchscreen) was that all Americans would have a chance at representation by their elected officials. Sadly, not all these elected members are not going to necessarily reflect your view on how things should be run, nor will they always reflect the POTUS desires. That's trhe beauty of a republic- ALL of us get a say through our elected officials, not just the ones who voted for Obama. Seems like all that counting would have become a pointless endeavor if Barry was just gonna wander off and do whatever the hell he saw fit; definitely counter productive to compromise and progression.

Outnumbered? Yes. But the debt ceiling fiasco and the sequestration have the GOP on a no-win situation... and has Obama and the Dems in a position that, while not ideal, is something they can tolerate. That's the point... this time if the GOP decides not to cooperate in any way, shape, or form... everyone suffers, but the GOP suffers much more than anyone else. Obama doing absolutely nothing for the next few months will cause military spending to take a huge hit, along with interest payments, Medicare, Education, and others from the discretionary budget. The Bush Tax Cuts will also expire, which is an entirely different matter altogether.

But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and i ...


Pretty much as I was inferring- a stalemate (pissing match) in which we all lose. Compromise will be needed on all sides. Nobody is a winner when you have to (or give the apparance of) override the wishes of your people, no matter how noble your cause.

Is it too late to propose we "take turns" between the parties during presidential cycles- that way we all get what we want, we just may have to wait a few years for our turn to get it.

Republicans- I know you mean well but must you alienate an entire nation in your endeavors?
Democrats- are you sure you can afford that? I'm not sure we have the money to pay for that....
 
2012-11-07 05:34:36 PM
You know, ain't nothing gonna get done now. Shiat.

Just on a side note, I was driving to work while the voting was going on, gas was $3.12 a gallon. I work until 11:15pm. I left work, after the race was called, and gas at the same gas station was $3.45 a gallon.

Something phuqed up is going on here.
 
2012-11-07 05:34:56 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


Done in one.
 
2012-11-07 05:35:01 PM

jesdynf: More_Like_A_Stain: He's not responsible for Obama being a niBONG

For what it's worth, they did make it. They really did. No matter how many times they almost slipped over the line, they never formally crossed the Ni-*CLANG* Event Horizon. Codewords, dog whistles, outright racism and hilarious trackbacks (blah people? really?) but when push comes to shove they managed to grit their teeth and not say that word on national TV for like a whole year.

I will admit: I didn't think they'd do it.


We know, we know the candidate Barack Obama, the antiwar government nig-uh, the America was a source for division around the world
 
2012-11-07 05:35:34 PM
Morla the Ancient One has always been an obstructionist asshole.
 
2012-11-07 05:37:48 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Obama gave him 98% of what he wanted, reached out to him and the right many times, and how does Mitch repay him? With even more biatching, whining, demanding 100%, and complaining about Obama being "too far left", never mind that for Republicans "too far left" is anything to the left of center-right. And now here Mitch is, saying he'll do whatever it takes to keep America, THE COUNTRY HE LIVES IN AND HELPS DECIDE ON IMPORTANT MATTERS, as much as a shiathole as he can out of spite, anger, and hate, which was his policy for the last four years.

Fark you, Mitch. You're the very definition of a traitor. Instead of being a spiteful little biatch, try working on helping to fix this country. And that goes to all of your obstructionist Republicans out there.


Repub here- I'm not claiming him as one of ours. take him if you must.
 
2012-11-07 05:38:59 PM

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 740x570]


Holy sh*t it is like 3D.
 
2012-11-07 05:39:29 PM
Do it traitor turtle - there's no way that your two years of total intransigence won't have the EXACT FARKING SAME RESULT as last night.
 
2012-11-07 05:42:32 PM

clowncar on fire: Keizer_Ghidorah: Obama gave him 98% of what he wanted, reached out to him and the right many times, and how does Mitch repay him? With even more biatching, whining, demanding 100%, and complaining about Obama being "too far left", never mind that for Republicans "too far left" is anything to the left of center-right. And now here Mitch is, saying he'll do whatever it takes to keep America, THE COUNTRY HE LIVES IN AND HELPS DECIDE ON IMPORTANT MATTERS, as much as a shiathole as he can out of spite, anger, and hate, which was his policy for the last four years.

Fark you, Mitch. You're the very definition of a traitor. Instead of being a spiteful little biatch, try working on helping to fix this country. And that goes to all of your obstructionist Republicans out there.

Repub here- I'm not claiming him as one of ours. take him if you must.


You can't just say you don't 'claim as one of your own' the most senior elected rebuplican official in the country.

It's like being Catholic and not claiming the pope as your own.
 
2012-11-07 05:46:03 PM

Tumunga: You know, ain't nothing gonna get done now. Shiat.

Just on a side note, I was driving to work while the voting was going on, gas was $3.12 a gallon. I work until 11:15pm. I left work, after the race was called, and gas at the same gas station was $3.45 a gallon.

Something phuqed up is going on here.


My tinfoil helmut tells me that the ramping down of the gas prices the last few weeks was an effort on the 'tards part to "ease the pain" at the pumps as a feel good incentive to vote for them. Now that victory is complete, there's no reason to offer this incentive any more. Jokes on you Barry- all the 'tards ride bicycles or Prius's so they never noticed the reduction. A win for the Repugs!!!!111

Snark aside- did one of our refineries get all blowed up again? Is it raining in California again?
 
2012-11-07 05:46:14 PM
Oh, I hope Ashley Judd runs against him in 2 years, just for the lulz.

Linky
 
2012-11-07 05:47:15 PM
The sneer is gone from Mitten's lip, his teeth are clenched in hate;
He pounds with cruel violence upon his blonde and vapid mate.
And now the media gives the results, and admits Nate Silver's right,
And now the GOP is shattered by the force of Obama's night.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in Freeperville - mighty Mittens has struck out.


posted by someone else earlier today.
 
2012-11-07 05:49:53 PM

quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.


I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.
 
2012-11-07 05:50:33 PM

Tigger: clowncar on fire: Keizer_Ghidorah: Obama gave him 98% of what he wanted, reached out to him and the right many times, and how does Mitch repay him? With even more biatching, whining, demanding 100%, and complaining about Obama being "too far left", never mind that for Republicans "too far left" is anything to the left of center-right. And now here Mitch is, saying he'll do whatever it takes to keep America, THE COUNTRY HE LIVES IN AND HELPS DECIDE ON IMPORTANT MATTERS, as much as a shiathole as he can out of spite, anger, and hate, which was his policy for the last four years.

Fark you, Mitch. You're the very definition of a traitor. Instead of being a spiteful little biatch, try working on helping to fix this country. And that goes to all of your obstructionist Republicans out there.

Repub here- I'm not claiming him as one of ours. take him if you must.

You can't just say you don't 'claim as one of your own' the most senior elected rebuplican official in the country.

It's like being Catholic and not claiming the pope as your own.


So you're telling me it's not possible to retain a set of values or a philosophy but reject its leader as you don't feel he best represents those values?
Mitch uses the title of republican but i don't believe he acts in my best interests- he's all yours to do with as you wants.
 
2012-11-07 05:52:38 PM
Fark him.
 
2012-11-07 05:53:40 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

 
2012-11-07 05:57:13 PM
So, to the left, then?

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

GAT_00: Sweet, big left turn coming up.

Relatively Obscure: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

Citrate1007: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Done in 1

buster_v: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
[i121.photobucket.com image 225x350]

Holocaust Agnostic: So, he wants Obama to move left then?

meat0918: So he wants Obama to move left?

Perlin Noise: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
yep

i has an internet: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Done in one.


...oh, I see that's been covered.
 
2012-11-07 06:05:52 PM

InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.


i50.tinypic.com

I vote for more Lemon Pledge.
 
2012-11-07 06:10:20 PM

quiotu: The Bush Tax Cuts will also expire, which is an entirely different matter altogether.


"The Bush Tax Cuts will also expire, which is an entirely different matter."
 
2012-11-07 06:15:30 PM
I'm sick of this guy. I'm going to try my hardest his next election cycle to get him ousted. Currently though I'm going to write and biatch about how he's being an obstructionist baby and the citizens of Kentucky don't appreciate how embarrassing he is.
 
2012-11-07 06:19:42 PM
"The Bush Tax Cuts will also expire, which is an entirely different matter."
 
2012-11-07 06:23:18 PM

clowncar on fire: Tigger: clowncar on fire: Keizer_Ghidorah: Obama gave him 98% of what he wanted, reached out to him and the right many times, and how does Mitch repay him? With even more biatching, whining, demanding 100%, and complaining about Obama being "too far left", never mind that for Republicans "too far left" is anything to the left of center-right. And now here Mitch is, saying he'll do whatever it takes to keep America, THE COUNTRY HE LIVES IN AND HELPS DECIDE ON IMPORTANT MATTERS, as much as a shiathole as he can out of spite, anger, and hate, which was his policy for the last four years.

Fark you, Mitch. You're the very definition of a traitor. Instead of being a spiteful little biatch, try working on helping to fix this country. And that goes to all of your obstructionist Republicans out there.

Repub here- I'm not claiming him as one of ours. take him if you must.

You can't just say you don't 'claim as one of your own' the most senior elected rebuplican official in the country.

It's like being Catholic and not claiming the pope as your own.

So you're telling me it's not possible to retain a set of values or a philosophy but reject its leader as you don't feel he best represents those values?
Mitch uses the title of republican but i don't believe he acts in my best interests- he's all yours to do with as you wants.


Then you're not a republican. congrats - go get debriefed by Weaver95 to begin your new life in civilised society.
 
2012-11-07 06:29:26 PM
i75.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-07 06:30:10 PM
Sent him an e-mail.
It is very good that you are refusing to work with the President once again. There are many enemies of our country depending upon people like you who would rather watch our country burn for idealism. It will save much effort on their behalf. Good Christians like you should consider how your actions affect others. Now instead of them affecting us from the outside you can do the work for them on the inside. Patriots like you would have saved countless British lives during the revolution days.
 
2012-11-07 06:38:20 PM
I find it hilarious that the ridiculous right seems to believe that Obama is at once a complete failure and a conspiratorial mastermind.

The reason Romney lost was because he was a crappy candidate backed by a party more determined to undermine the country for political gain than help fix anything. Party of personal responsibility, my ass.

I say let them try and obstruct. Let them further marginalize themselves. And in 2014, we will make sure they have no control. We will relieve them of what little control they still have.

Hint to Republicans: Do only good for the country or we will bury you.

Heck... if you don't do enough good, we still might bury you.
 
2012-11-07 06:43:33 PM

TheBigJerk: [i75.photobucket.com image 500x375]


I wouldn't give him pizza.
 
2012-11-07 06:44:56 PM

bdub77: Stoker: Kansas, You farked up again and kept that idiot!

Umm. Wrong state dude.

-=-
(embarrassed facepalm)
Oops, well Kansas is still a farkup, but sorry for the Mitch association.
 
2012-11-07 06:45:09 PM
I realize Turtleboy is White, but technically he's Minority Leader. :)
 
2012-11-07 06:51:54 PM
Actual center, or relative center?

Left ----- Center ---- Right --------Relative Center --------------------------------- Tea Party

Disclaimer: Not to scale.
 
2012-11-07 06:53:22 PM
Hey, Mitch, you and I finally have something in common. I, too, hope that Obama moves to the left this term.

/That is what he meant, right?
 
2012-11-07 06:54:01 PM
cdn1.sbnation.com
 
2012-11-07 06:55:45 PM
What a flaming dick. He sounds like a belligerent little kid, except with bigger words. Don't you get it, Mitch? The public farking hates you guys. You are failing on an epic scale.

OK, so now we have the terms. fark em over, Obama. Screw em every chance you get.

www.luishurtado.com
 
2012-11-07 06:57:39 PM
This guy is sort of on the right track. If the GOP wasn't so far off to the side these days, they'd have nailed this election easily. He's just confused about where the center is.
 
2012-11-07 06:59:09 PM

Qwertyette: InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.

[i50.tinypic.com image 400x400]

I vote for more Lemon Pledge.


Why would the Republicans support blanket amnesty for millions upon millions of Democratic voters? Face it, the reason the Left is against any type of voter ID or verification is to allow ALL individuals within an area to vote regardless of citizenship. To a Progressive we are all "Citizen's of the World".

Also Obama shoved the Dream Act through via Executive Order when he didn't get his way. Bush may have utilized Executive Order's as well but his were minor compared to what Obama is going to do.

Welcome to Obama's America, rule by Executive Order.
 
2012-11-07 06:59:41 PM
I wish I could refuse to actually do my job, while purposely making life more difficult for the people who hired me.

No wait, I'd rather continue to be a decent human being without my head stuck up my ass.

God, what a petulant turd.
 
2012-11-07 07:00:06 PM

Somacandra: mrshowrules: Obama 2.0

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x293]

We can only hope he'll become the arm twister now. Really take them on.


He was perfect tactic. He just has to invite each Republican Representative individually to the White House. Get one photo shaking hands with them. Later, E-mail them the photo and promise never to release if they play ball. Or you will release it with a voice over as an official endorsement.
 
2012-11-07 07:00:39 PM

Rann Xerox: I want Boehner and McConnell sitting in a room at the White House when, suddenly, they hear someone whistling "The Farmer in the Dell" on the other side of the door.

Slowly the door opens and Barack Obama, dressed in a long black duster and body armor, walks in. He stares into their eyes for a moment, reaches into a side pocket, pulls out a pack of Newports (soft pack), puts one to his lips, lights it, takes a long drag, blows smoke in their direction and says in a deep voice: "The Cheese stands alone."


Obamar Comin'
 
2012-11-07 07:02:38 PM

SouthParkCon: Qwertyette: InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.

[i50.tinypic.com image 400x400]

I vote for more Lemon Pledge.

Why would the Republicans support blanket amnesty for millions upon millions of Democratic voters? Face it, the reason the Left is against any type of voter ID or verification is to allow ALL individuals within an area to vote regardless of citizenship. To a Progressive we are all "Citizen's of the World".

Also Obama shoved the Dream Act through via Executive Order when he didn't get his way. Bush may have utilized Executive Order's as well but his were minor compared to what Obama is going to do.

Welcome to Obama's America, rule by Executive Order.


Tell us more about your election predictions. This can only boost your credibility.
 
2012-11-07 07:07:24 PM
img853.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-07 07:07:41 PM
Maybe time to change the filibuster rules.

Go back to having the person having to actually speak the whole time. Let's leave the 2/3 to break it, though.
 
2012-11-07 07:09:11 PM

Tigger: SouthParkCon: Qwertyette: InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.

[i50.tinypic.com image 400x400]

I vote for more Lemon Pledge.

Why would the Republicans support blanket amnesty for millions upon millions of Democratic voters? Face it, the reason the Left is against any type of voter ID or verification is to allow ALL individuals within an area to vote regardless of citizenship. To a Progressive we are all "Citizen's of the World".

Also Obama shoved the Dream Act through via Executive Order when he didn't get his way. Bush may have utilized Executive Order's as well but his were minor compared to what Obama is going to do.

Welcome to Obama's America, rule by Executive Order.

Tell us more about your election predictions. This can only boost your credibility.


I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP". I tried many years ago and now I just hang around for the lulz. I know you and a vast majority want Fark to be a new Daily KOS but I've been here far longer than my "account created" date and still get a kick outa the site.

Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.
 
2012-11-07 07:12:32 PM

bdub77: Stoker: Kansas, You farked up again and kept that idiot!

Umm. Wrong state dude.


No shiat. We have enough idiots without getting credit for Yertle the Turtle here.
 
2012-11-07 07:15:09 PM

sprawl15: Gyrfalcon: TalenLee: There's something so appropriate that this perpetually moist asshole comes from KY.

Oh, up yours.

You must prefer vasoline.


www.local361.com

\he seems more like a WD-40 man, to me
 
2012-11-07 07:26:44 PM

cryinoutloud: Don't you get it, Mitch? The public farking hates you guys. You are failing on an epic scale.


Except they kept the House. And are doing well in a lot of local and state seats of power.
 
2012-11-07 07:29:52 PM
SouthParkCon: I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP".

Yeah, just from this small sample I can see that your writing skills are mighty. I'm sure we'd be flummoxed.


SouthParkCon: Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution.

Got a cite for this, or should we continue to wait for your "10 page missive"?
 
2012-11-07 07:33:10 PM

SouthParkCon: I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP". I tried many years ago and now I just hang around for the lulz. I know you and a vast majority want Fark to be a new Daily KOS but I've been here far longer than my "account created" date and still get a kick outa the site.

Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.


If Conservatives learned anything from this, I wish it was that facts matter. Like Silver's book title "The Signal and the Noise".

Bush 2 wasn't being cockblocked like there was no tomorrow. Obama faced a historic level of obstructionism. They literally blocked Obama on stuff they originally proposed. There is undisputed/measurable data showing this. If you are going to make a comparison, make an honest one.

There are facts on either side of an issue but there is also smoke and mirrors on either side of an issue and sometimes there is actually the truth.

I'll give you an example which is fundamental to one of the biggest policy differences between the GOP and Liberals today. Tax cuts for richest Americans does not create jobs or help the economy. This is a fact supported by modern economic principles but also demonstrable through historical data. In fact, the CBO recently released a definitive study on this subject. The study was ignored (like Silver's predictions) because it was the signal and Conservatives want to hear the noise.
 
2012-11-07 07:38:19 PM

SouthParkCon: I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them


This I eagerly await.
 
2012-11-07 07:41:04 PM

SouthParkCon: Qwertyette: InmanRoshi: quiotu: But here's the funny part about the sequestration... as several accountants have explained on their own blogs: it doesn't help the debt. It's a punishment, not a plan. The discretionary budget can only cut back costs so much, in fact you could eliminate the discretionary budget entirely, and it wouldn't get rid of all the deficit. Sequestration and the Bush Tax Cuts expiring would actually make serious progress, albeit in a way that'll be rough for pretty much everyone. Both matters are a pissing match where Obama holds every advantage.

I also think Republicans are going to have to go to Obama hat in hand and play ball to get some version of Immigration Reform/DREAM Act passed that they can hang their hat on and present to latino voters in 2016, because they absolutely got annihilated by the latino vote last night and the demographics are not going to get any better four years from now.

[i50.tinypic.com image 400x400]

I vote for more Lemon Pledge.

Why would the Republicans support blanket amnesty for millions upon millions of Democratic voters? Face it, the reason the Left is against any type of voter ID or verification is to allow ALL individuals within an area to vote regardless of citizenship. To a Progressive we are all "Citizen's of the World".

Also Obama shoved the Dream Act through via Executive Order when he didn't get his way. Bush may have utilized Executive Order's as well but his were minor compared to what Obama is going to do.

Welcome to Obama's America, rule by Executive Order.


He wouldn't have to resort to that if the right hadn't initiated their "Make Obama a one-term president and do nothing but filibuster, fight, and whine" policy. What else can a man do when the other side gets 98% of what they wanted but cries about not getting 100%, opposes everything he thinks and says and does as part of their "If we can't have it, no one can" mindset, and puts party before country?
 
2012-11-07 07:41:24 PM

Nadie_AZ: cryinoutloud: Don't you get it, Mitch? The public farking hates you guys. You are failing on an epic scale.

Except they kept the House. And are doing well in a lot of local and state seats of power.


They kept the house through a massively corrupt program of redistricting/gerrymandering.

The popular vote shows who won, plain and simple. LET IT GO.
 
2012-11-07 07:45:23 PM

SouthParkCon: I'm a self identified Conservative on Fark. I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP". I tried many years ago and now I just hang around for the lulz. I know you and a vast majority want Fark to be a new Daily KOS but I've been here far longer than my "account created" date and still get a kick outa the site.

Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.


If you're afraid to post your views, then you're a coward. If you're presuming that everyone here on Fark would automatically call your views derp without even showing them, then you must have no faith in your views. If you have faith in your views, then why not present them? God knows everyone else does, even when they get flamed or trolled without mercy.

The fact that you can say "I hope the Republican block everything the left puts forward" pretty much tells me all I need to know about your "views" and the conviction and beliefs that support them; but I could be wrong? OTOH, the fact that you have a big picture of cheese on your profile leads me to suspect other things about you that might lend credence to my suppositions.
 
2012-11-07 07:49:59 PM
Did I hope my guy would win? Sure. Since he hasn't I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left. Honestly it won't matter, Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution. When Bush 2 did it, it was wrong. When Obama does it, you and the other Progressives cheer him for it.

So you'd rather destroy the country than have it run by the other side, and you wonder why we cheer when we shut you out?

I expect Obama to run the damn country. If Republicans obstruct everything, then I expect him to do it by Executive Order.

And a majority of Americans agree with me.
 
2012-11-07 07:54:22 PM
I know Obama's a smart guy. And I'm sure that he has a perspective on dealing with these challenges in a way that I don't have. So I have no doubt that Obama can manage the obstructionists. But I don't just think Barack is smart, I believe in him. I know that he won't just do the smart thing, he'll do the right thing.

That's what's important.
 
2012-11-07 07:55:48 PM
SouthParkCon:
s17.postimage.org

Conservatives seem to have a lot in common with this character.
 
2012-11-07 07:58:06 PM

SouthParkCon:
1. I hope the Republicans obstruct every single piece of legislation put for by the Left.

2. Obama has shown he will circumvent the checks and balances put forth in the Constitution.


So, what you're saying is that you don't see how (1) leads directly to (2), eh?

You know, you may be too stupid to play on Fark.

Class, let's have a show of hands. Is SouthParkCon too stupid to play on Fark?
 
2012-11-07 07:59:48 PM

SouthParkCon: I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them


No you couldn't. First you'd have to have working brain cells, and then the means to rub them together. You have neither.

and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP".

Just responding in kind. If only you were capable of constructing cogent arguments that didn't make you look like a total disruptive attention whore.
 
Ant
2012-11-07 08:09:01 PM
1) Take the political compass
2) Throw away all quadrants except the right authoritarian one
3) stick a pin in the center of the remaining quadrant

Congratulations, you are now correctly calibrated to speak about American politicians.
 
2012-11-07 08:09:50 PM

Ant: 1) Take the political compass
2) Throw away all quadrants except the right authoritarian one
3) stick a pin in the center of the remaining quadrant

Congratulations, you are now correctly calibrated to speak about American politicians.


Yeah, if you're a European.
 
2012-11-07 08:35:22 PM

whidbey: SouthParkCon: I could write a 10 page missive on my viewpoints and how I came to them

No you couldn't. First you'd have to have working brain cells, and then the means to rub them together. You have neither.

and the response from the Fark Progressive Brigade would be "DERP".

Just responding in kind. If only you were capable of constructing cogent arguments that didn't make you look like a total disruptive attention whore.


I'll just respond to Whidbey since he's a pretty average Fark Progressive and one whom I have mimicked over the last few years.

The point is that no matter what my views are it won't matter due to the fact I identify as a Conservative. The above comments prove my point. Now to rebut...

Executive Orders: The concept of an Executive Order was to allow the President to enact regulation based on existing law or related to the power of the office. What it has become is a "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts" to get around Congress. This is wrong, both by the Right and Left. The latest example of this by Obama is the Dream Act. Point to the current law passed through Congress that would support the Dream Act, you can't because it doesn't exist.

Obstruction: What I want is the Right to be the check and balance within our political system. I don't want one party rule, and you can go look up my posts from the mid-terms in 2010 to back that up, but a system of two parties to come to a middle ground and get things done. The Left is famous for pushing a narrative of "We met 99% of what they want and they aren't budging on 1%". Let's put it this way, how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place. Would that be acceptable by the Pro-Choice crowd? Of course not.

StoneColdAtheist also proves my point regarding the desire of the Fark Left to turn this into an echo chamber, similar to DailyKOS or Free Republic.

As much as the Left hates the fact that all American's don't buy into Progressive Ideology, the fact is that they don't. Yell and scream all you want but to say that a vast majority buy's into it is a false assumption and in this election 60,567,122 sided with Obama and 57,744,506 sided with Romney. That is not an overwhelming majority. Romney would have pissed off his party to work across the aisle, I have zero confidence that Obama will do the same based on his past performance.

Please commence with the childish insults, I have learned from the best and need some new material :).
 
2012-11-07 08:38:11 PM

SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon:

DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)
 
2012-11-07 08:41:05 PM

Lost Thought 00: Zapruder: Here's hoping more than a few Republican senators see this as the career suicide that it is and tell him to fark off.

Or they will look at Lugar's seat and realize that if they so much as appear in a photograph with Obama they will be primaried out


Well, if they really looked at Lugar's seat, they might consider working with the Pres. Otherwise they'll be handing the Dems another win and they'll be an even smaller minority next time around, and the need to defend against the filibuster will cease to be a concern. Or they could continue to be incessant crybabbies and keep up the obstructionist BS and end up in the same place by other means.

I like how they've turned the collegial, upper-crusty half of the congress into a elementary school yard. More filibuster in the last 2 congresses than in the previous 100. Guinness book of records. Maybe Tussaud's can make a statue for the turtle looking sumbiatch for the Guinness museum.
 
2012-11-07 08:42:41 PM

SouthParkCon: words


And you really believe all of that belligerent nonsense, do you?
 
2012-11-07 08:44:48 PM

SouthParkCon: SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon: DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)


Dude, you're a troll.

Want to shed that negative label?

Too bad.
 
2012-11-07 08:45:12 PM
As much as I wish Congress and the American People could stop the Obama regime's incompetent plan of austerity during a balance sheet recession, and replace it with some context appropriate Economic policy, focusing on that to the purposeful exclusion of irrelevant social issues*, you're not helping.

go away.

//*which ones are irrelevant? They all are.
//Math is hard, Economics is harder, and finance is scary. I get that. That's why Obama and Friends
//riled up the women with stories of "the men are coming for your ovaries!!!1!!", but please, for the love of //God, can we pretend we live in a world with serious economic problems? And maybe, just maybe,
//address those important problem that impact the nation, before we start rewarding different groups that help get us elected?
 
2012-11-07 08:46:09 PM

SouthParkCon: "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts"


For the record, it's absurd statements like this that earn you the "derp" responses.
 
2012-11-07 08:48:04 PM

Hunter_Worthington: the Obama regime's incompetent plan


See responses to SouthParkCon.

Also, the Election's over. You can retire this alt now, unless you're really that big of a chickenshiat about being on the line with other posters.
 
2012-11-07 08:50:27 PM

Drubell: Drubell: And this is why there's a growing rift between conservatives and freepers in the Republican Party, This is why the Republican Party will continue to lose electrons every time. As long as these people prioritize blocking legislation rather than improving upon it, 51% of America will not accept them. I know that McConnell probably doesn't believe in evolution, but here's a tip for him:

Evolve or die

Well that was bad


I got a charge out of it...
 
2012-11-07 08:51:31 PM

SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.


You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.
 
2012-11-07 08:54:00 PM

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.


This just shows how delusional him and people like him are: He compares a heinous assault on basic civil rights and personal sovereignty with the incredibly moderate positions of the Democrats, like a small tax rise on people who are already rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

And this is why I find all conservatives to be basically evil: They talk a lot about "freedom" and "personal responsibility" but they're all violent authoritarians under the skin.
 
2012-11-07 08:54:54 PM
www.politicalcompass.org

/oblig
 
2012-11-07 08:55:08 PM

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.


He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.
 
2012-11-07 08:57:50 PM
None of this is Obama's fault. He has made every possible effort to compromise and recah deals with republicans, based on his many years of experience in making deals happen in Washington before becoming President.

Which means that he has done next to nothing in the way of compromise, because he has no idea how to compromise and very little experience in making deals, and now, no reason to compromise, since he won re-election.

i hopr the Republicans stick to their guns and force spending cuts, or we're just gonna be more and more farked. I'll be looking for a place to retire outside the U.S.
 
2012-11-07 08:59:12 PM

SouthParkCon: StoneColdAtheist also proves my point regarding the desire of the Fark Left to turn this into an echo chamber, similar to DailyKOS or Free Republic.


I see you declined to address the legitimate issue I raised. This is why you fail.

As much as the Left hates the fact that all American's don't buy into Progressive Ideology, the fact is that they don't. Yell and scream all you want but to say that a vast majority buy's into it is a false assumption and in this election 60,567,122 sided with Obama and 57,744,506 sided with Romney. That is not an overwhelming majority.

Immaterial. Mr Obama has a mandate from the American people, in both the popular vote and the EC, to execute the office of POTUS for the next four years, and he damned well better do it to the best of his ability. Claiming that he lacks an "overwhelming majority" as grounds for obstructing him at every turn is at best arm waving and foot stomping, and arguably violates the oath that the GOP members of Congress themselves take.
 
2012-11-07 09:01:37 PM

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.


Apparently you missed the point I was trying to make, of course the example is absurd and rightly so. I can't believe you missed that.
 
2012-11-07 09:03:40 PM

SouthParkCon: Apparently you missed the point I was trying to make, of course the example is absurd and rightly so. I can't believe you missed that.


What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted?
 
2012-11-07 09:04:11 PM

The Homer Tax: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.


Well then you tell me where your ideology stands. I consider myself a Conservative. Should I go to Whidbey's level and call you Libtard's or Lefty's or something similar? You tell me and I'll use it from now on.
 
2012-11-07 09:07:04 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

This just shows how delusional him and people like him are: He compares a heinous assault on basic civil rights and personal sovereignty with the incredibly moderate positions of the Democrats, like a small tax rise on people who are already rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

And this is why I find all conservatives to be basically evil: They talk a lot about "freedom" and "personal responsibility" but they're all violent authoritarians under the skin.


You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.
 
2012-11-07 09:08:19 PM

SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.


So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?
 
2012-11-07 09:15:24 PM

SouthParkCon: The Homer Tax: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.

Well then you tell me where your ideology stands. I consider myself a Conservative. Should I go to Whidbey's level and call you Libtard's or Lefty's or something similar? You tell me and I'll use it from now on.


I'm a left-leaning independent, and that has nothing to do with your silly use of the term "Progressive."

But really the words you use aren't your problem, it's your desire to group an label everyone and then argue against your idea of what those people think rather than what someone is actually saying.

That and your whining about this site and the people that post on here. If you spent half the amount of energy you do on whining instead on quality political discourse, we could be having some good discussions right now.
 
2012-11-07 09:16:38 PM

Animatronik: None of this is Obama's fault. He has made every possible effort to compromise and recah deals with republicans, based on his many years of experience in making deals happen in Washington before becoming President.

Which means that he has done next to nothing in the way of compromise, because he has no idea how to compromise and very little experience in making deals, and now, no reason to compromise, since he won re-election.

i hopr the Republicans stick to their guns and force spending cuts, or we're just gonna be more and more farked. I'll be looking for a place to retire outside the U.S.


So when the right demands 100% and cries when they get 98%, it's Obama's fault? They filibuster and fight everything that tries to happen, and it's Obama's fault for not rolling over and letting them do it their way? Yeah, that sounds like the party of personal responsibility. Maybe if the right hadn't farked up the country from 2001-2009, we wouldn't have had this problem to begin with.
 
2012-11-07 09:17:34 PM

whidbey: Hunter_Worthington: the Obama regime's incompetent plan

See responses to SouthParkCon.

Also, the Election's over. You can retire this alt now, unless you're really that big of a chickenshiat about being on the line with other posters.


You're a funny little troll.

if you can't understand what I'm saying this might help.
 
2012-11-07 09:18:13 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?


The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.
 
2012-11-07 09:18:52 PM
The hilarious thing is that Obama issues ONE executive order which is in fact wholly within his defined powers and it is the end of the costutushun. The previous president's spend 20 years using executive orders to enact laws to their taste, and it is not even worth a mention.

Obama is the nearest thing to a constitutionalist President you have had in many decades, and you are too farking dumb to notice.
 
2012-11-07 09:19:31 PM

The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.


Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.
 
2012-11-07 09:26:44 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.


I'd love to hear his answer too, but I'm afraid you're not going to get one...
 
2012-11-07 09:33:43 PM

BuckTurgidson: So, to the left, then?

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
GAT_00: Sweet, big left turn coming up.
Relatively Obscure: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Citrate1007: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Done in 1
buster_v: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
[i121.photobucket.com image 225x350]
Holocaust Agnostic: So, he wants Obama to move left then?
meat0918: So he wants Obama to move left?
Perlin Noise: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
yep
i has an internet: naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.
Done in one.

...oh, I see that's been covered.


NASCAR play-by-play?
 
2012-11-07 09:34:11 PM
Senator, is the sky pink in your world too?
 
2012-11-07 09:36:16 PM

The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.


If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.
 
2012-11-07 09:36:23 PM

Kuroshin: [www.politicalcompass.org image 480x400]

/oblig


Why do people keep posting this graph?

Is it supposed to make us go "AHHHH" or something?

Yes, we know the Democratic Party aren't the libbiest libs who ever libbed.

Also, Nader is 78 years old, and Kucinich is more interested in macrobiotic diets these days. I don't understand the point of putting them on the chart, either.

Get a new one.
 
2012-11-07 09:38:40 PM

Hunter_Worthington: You're a funny little troll.


Project much?

if you can't understand what I'm saying this might help.

Again, the Election is done. Time to come up with real arguments, not cliches best left to Fark History, where they were done better.
 
2012-11-07 09:58:03 PM

whidbey: Kuroshin: [www.politicalcompass.org image 480x400]

/oblig

Why do people keep posting this graph?

Is it supposed to make us go "AHHHH" or something?

Yes, we know the Democratic Party aren't the libbiest libs who ever libbed.

Also, Nader is 78 years old, and Kucinich is more interested in macrobiotic diets these days. I don't understand the point of putting them on the chart, either.

Get a new one.


Because Mitch McConnell.

Christ you're thick.

Didja happen to read the topic? If Obama moves toward the center, he'd be moving left. You also missed the "/oblig" slashie at the bottom as well.

whidbey, just retire. You've been embarrassing yourself for a while now. You've been pounded into the dirt in every thread for the past week. Just hang it up. You're tired.
 
2012-11-07 10:02:18 PM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.

 
2012-11-07 10:05:25 PM
Hey, we put up with 8 years of Bush. I think you'll get over it.

Remember, youre either with us or against us!

/ if you dont like living in a democracy GTFO!
// America! love it or shove it!
 
2012-11-07 10:17:13 PM

InmanRoshi: Muta: InmanRoshi: The Bush tax cuts completely expire without Obama having to lift a finger, much less meet McConnell halfway.

A trillion will be be cut from the budget -- including defense -- unless everyone plays nice. That was the 98% of what Boner wanted.

A trillion over 10 years, half of that is military spending, to be exact.

The worst possible scenerio for Democrats that both sides have to eat shiat on a deal. The difference is, Democrats are well familiar with the taste after years and years of horrible, horrible, horrible negotations on their part. The GOP can't just hold the country hostage with a gun to it's head and get everything they want this time.


sequestration: a good start especially cutting defense, which just might introduce a more rational defense posture in the world
 
2012-11-07 10:24:45 PM
img641.imageshack.us
A lot of people don't know this, but Mitch was a pilot during the war, oh yes
 
2012-11-07 10:34:43 PM

KarmicDisaster: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.


[thatsthejoke.jpg]
 
2012-11-07 11:02:37 PM
So, he admits his intention to not do his job. Furthermore, he will impede the function of the US government.

I believe that's treason.

Shoot him dead right now. Will still do that for treason, right?
 
2012-11-07 11:13:07 PM
So he wants a more left wing Obama?
 
2012-11-07 11:20:22 PM
Have there been any credible rumors that Mitch might not be reelected minority leader?
 
2012-11-07 11:20:39 PM

Heraclitus: Hey, we put up with 8 years of Bush. I think you'll get over it.

Remember, youre either with us or against us!

/ if you dont like living in a democracy GTFO!
// America! love it or shove it!


Also, IIRC, the far-left doomsayers were predicting pretty much the same crap (FEMA re-education camps, midnight raids by jackbooted thugs, roundups of suspected non-patriots) when Bush was in office. None of it happened. Why the right expects the same thing to happen is beyond me. Unless they're the ones who are going to personally do it, and then I'll call the cops because there's still all these laws we have.

But if you want it to happen, bring it.
 
2012-11-07 11:30:22 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Have there been any credible rumors that Mitch might not be reelected minority leader?


There's rumors floating about Kentucky that Ashley Judd might be run against him.
 
2012-11-07 11:32:25 PM

Girion47: StoneColdAtheist: Have there been any credible rumors that Mitch might not be reelected minority leader?

There's rumors floating about Kentucky that Ashley Judd might be run against him.


Would that be an improvement?
 
2012-11-07 11:36:43 PM

The Homer Tax: SouthParkCon: The Homer Tax: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: how about a Pro-Choice bill is put forth in Congress that gives a women the right to choose to have an abortion, but their is a main provision that you have to let a living male relative decide where the abortion will take place.

You actually think this is a valid argument, don't you?

Why in the name of god would there be any reason to have anyone else decide anything about an adult undergoing a legal medical procedure, much less a "male relative" (do you have any idea how Sharia-like that sounds?) being able to control the entire process?

It's hilarious because I bet you're one of the ones who scream loudly about the "government getting between you and your doctor", but you have no problem suggesting that other people should be forced to have their medical decisions made for them.

He's also talking about a law "giving women the right to have an abortion."

A right they already have had, as affirmed by SCOTUS for ~40 years.

He's also pretending like Obama isn't willing to compromise and is the Reason a middle ground can't be met.

But all you really need to know is that he uses the phrase "Progressives" seriously.

Well then you tell me where your ideology stands. I consider myself a Conservative. Should I go to Whidbey's level and call you Libtard's or Lefty's or something similar? You tell me and I'll use it from now on.

I'm a left-leaning independent, and that has nothing to do with your silly use of the term "Progressive."

But really the words you use aren't your problem, it's your desire to group an label everyone and then argue against your idea of what those people think rather than what someone is actually saying.

You mean the way I am labeled a racist, homophobic, hate-monger if I disagree with Obama or the Left's policy's? I may put a different viewpoint out there but instead of discussion I get "DERP".

That and your whining about this site and the people that post on here. If you spent half the amount of energy you do on whining instead on quality political discourse, we could be having some good discussions right now.

Like I said before, I hang out here for the lulz. I gave up any kind of political discourse here in 2010. The comments above prove my point, I am attacked based on a false assumption of where I stand on the issues and time and time again the response to any post is "DERP or your an evil conservative". Feel free to go back through my previous posts in 2010 and you can see where I stand. I accept and know that's what Fark has become, it is what it is. I also like the Geek tab.

 
2012-11-07 11:37:20 PM

The Homer Tax: KarmicDisaster: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.

[thatsthejoke.jpg]


Ah. Well, sometimes I have to have it explained to me.
 
2012-11-07 11:41:34 PM

Kuroshin: Didja happen to read the topic? If Obama moves toward the center, he'd be moving left. You also missed the "/oblig" slashie at the bottom as well.


Um,. you are aware that Republicans consider Obama to be extremely liberal, and not center-right, and that by "moving to the center" they would want him to shift right? Which is bullshiat.

whidbey, just retire. You've been embarrassing yourself for a while now. You've been pounded into the dirt in every thread for the past week. Just hang it up. You're tired.

Maybe in your own head. You're welcome to put me on ignore if you can't handle your point of view being challenged. At any rate, we're done here if all you've got are personal attacks.
 
2012-11-07 11:42:55 PM
Oh Mitch Mitch Mitch......... 
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-07 11:43:13 PM

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts"

For the record, it's absurd statements like this that earn you the "derp" responses.


So 9th Circuit isn't stocked full of Liberal-leaning judges? 

Please tell me again how I am incorrect in that viewpoint.
 
2012-11-07 11:43:24 PM

SouthParkCon: Like I said before, I hang out here for the lulz. I gave up any kind of political discourse here in 2010. The comments above prove my point, I am attacked based on a false assumption of where I stand on the issues and time and time again the response to any post is "DERP or your an evil conservative". Feel free to go back through my previous posts in 2010 and you can see where I stand. I accept and know that's what Fark has become, it is what it is. I also like the Geek tab.


So you're not going to answer the question that was put to you fairly to justify your seemingly-absurd statements? Gee, I wonder why people call "derp" on you. Maybe it's because you're full of shiat and you know it.

And get the fark down from that cross, you ass.
 
2012-11-07 11:44:32 PM

whidbey: SouthParkCon: SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon: DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)

Dude, you're a troll.

Want to shed that negative label?

Too bad.


Dude, I fully admit to trolling. Again, I'm here for the lulz.
 
2012-11-07 11:46:06 PM

SouthParkCon: Dude, I fully admit to trolling. Again, I'm here for the lulz.


For real?
 
2012-11-07 11:56:51 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Girion47: StoneColdAtheist: Have there been any credible rumors that Mitch might not be reelected minority leader?

There's rumors floating about Kentucky that Ashley Judd might be run against him.

Would that be an improvement?


a bucket of turds would be an improvement over Mitch
 
2012-11-07 11:58:28 PM

whidbey: SouthParkCon: Dude, I fully admit to trolling. Again, I'm here for the lulz.

For real?


*clicks profile*

yep.

*plonk*
 
2012-11-07 11:59:58 PM

The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.

I'd love to hear his answer too, but I'm afraid you're not going to get one...


Sorry I had to go oppress some minorities while out to dinner with the wife and kids :).

So let's go with Obama's health care plan for starters. A mandate with a penalty, and was found by the SCOTUS to be a Tax, contrary to what was peddled to the public by Obama himself. Now I would classify that as the "5%" that made the rest of it unacceptable to swallow. Obama would not relent, and it passed based on purely party lines, and then 2010 happened.

I see the same fight coming up about immigration. Do I think that we should kick out everyone here illegally? No, that wouldn't be a realistic solution. Do I think we need to grant blanket amnesty? No, however I will more than likely be called a racist hate-monger because of that. Is there somewhere in the middle to meet? Sure. The problem is that much like what happened to Reagan, the President and those on the Left will push blanket Amnesty with some sort of additional security measure on the border, only to either deny funding to the security portion or something similar. I'll also be the first in line to put Bush Jr. on the spot for his handling of the border.
 
2012-11-08 12:00:51 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: Like I said before, I hang out here for the lulz. I gave up any kind of political discourse here in 2010. The comments above prove my point, I am attacked based on a false assumption of where I stand on the issues and time and time again the response to any post is "DERP or your an evil conservative". Feel free to go back through my previous posts in 2010 and you can see where I stand. I accept and know that's what Fark has become, it is what it is. I also like the Geek tab.

So you're not going to answer the question that was put to you fairly to justify your seemingly-absurd statements? Gee, I wonder why people call "derp" on you. Maybe it's because you're full of shiat and you know it.

And get the fark down from that cross, you ass.


See above, I can only type so fast and no longer live in front of my computer 24/7.
 
2012-11-08 12:01:29 AM
Latonia, the Wildcats, AND Pitino can power suck it.
 
2012-11-08 12:03:52 AM

Kuroshin: [www.politicalcompass.org image 480x400]

/oblig


Looking at that almost makes me want to turn it into a 3d model and over lay it on known star charts.
 
2012-11-08 12:07:18 AM

KarmicDisaster: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.


I fully agree that the individual mandate is something not pioneered by the Left, however this comes down to States rights. The Federal Government demanding all citizens to comply with the mandate, a Progressive (or whateverthefark you want me to call it) ideal, is far different that each states citizens deciding to comply with a mandate. In my opinion that is one of the principle differences between myself and a Progressive/Liberal/Whatever. If a state votes on same sex marriage, then that is that states right and it's citizens will decide. If a state wants legalized pot, then again it is up to those citizens. As far as I'm concerned the Federal Government's role should be far more limited than it has been over the last 50 years.
 
2012-11-08 12:10:21 AM

whidbey: whidbey: SouthParkCon: Dude, I fully admit to trolling. Again, I'm here for the lulz.

For real?

*clicks profile*

yep.

*plonk*


I have said time and time again that I like to Troll, I throw out some of my real views every so often but it's all just DERP to you and a vast majority of Farkers so I just have fun. Oh and I can't tell you how many time I get called an Alt or I have other Alts, or maybe I am an Alt of an Alt of someone else's Alt or Tatsuma.
 
2012-11-08 12:14:42 AM

SouthParkCon: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.

I'd love to hear his answer too, but I'm afraid you're not going to get one...

Sorry I had to go oppress some minorities while out to dinner with the wife and kids :).

So let's go with Obama's health care plan for starters. A mandate with a penalty, and was found by the SCOTUS to be a Tax, contrary to what was peddled to the public by Obama himself. Now I would classify that as the "5%" that made the rest of it unacceptable to swallow. Obama would not relent, and it passed based on purely party lines, and then 2010 happened.

I see the same fight coming up about immigration. Do I think that we should kick out everyone here illegally? No, that wouldn't be a realistic solution. Do I think we need to grant blanket amnesty? No, however I will more than likely be called a racist hate-monger because of that. Is there somewhere in the middle to meet? Sure. The problem is that much like what happened to Reagan, the President and those on the Left will push blanket Amnesty with some sort of additional security measure on the border, only to either deny funding to the security portion or something similar. I'll also be the fi ...


Well, then you're not ENTIRELY intellectually dishonest about your politics. We're making progress here, people.
 
2012-11-08 12:22:14 AM
What a giant load of crap. The fact that my state would elect this douche AND Rand Paul to the Senate doesn't give me much hope.

Alright, Mitch. If you want Obama to meet you half way, you're going to have to take a few steps toward the center yourself.

None of this "our goal is to make Obama a one-term president" crap. That plan went just as expected, right? None of this "cuts across the board, but no tax increases whatsoever" policy either.

Put your money where your mouth is and learn to compromise. Until then, you sound like a butthurt baby who can't accept defeat.

Funny how if Obama would have lost, it would've been a mandate from the people- but because Obama won? No no no, surely there's no mandate. America was just fine with all that gridlock, and it must mean we want more!

Staring strong economic data and the will of the American people directly in the face, you continue to be a hypocritical, delusional tool, representing everything wrong with the House and Senate.

Fark yourself, Mitch.
 
2012-11-08 12:44:37 AM
He is now utterly committed to making Obama a two-term President. He does not know pity, he does not know fear, he does not sleep and be absolutely will not stop until he sees Obama's Presidency utterly ended at the end of his second term.

Two terms and no more, Obama! A line has been drawn in the sand! YOU SHALL NOT PASS!
 
2012-11-08 12:45:08 AM
i262.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 12:45:13 AM

SouthParkCon: KarmicDisaster: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.

I fully agree that the individual mandate is something not pioneered by the Left, however this comes down to States rights. The Federal Government demanding all citizens to comply with the mandate, a Progressive (or whateverthefark you want me to call it) ideal, is far different that each states citizens deciding to comply with a mandate. In my opinion that is one of the principle differences between myself and a Progressive/Liberal/Whatever. If a state votes on same sex marriage, then that is that states right and it's citizens will decide. If a state wants legalized pot, then again it is up to those citizens. As far as I'm concerned the Federal Government's role should be far more limited than it has been over the last 50 years.


When the idea of the obviously mandate was first developed by Conservatives, it was intended to be applied at the federal level.

The mandate was the compromise.
 
2012-11-08 12:51:48 AM

SouthParkCon: he Left is famous for pushing a narrative of "We met 99% of what they want and they aren't budging on 1%".


Boehner: "I do. When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy."

But no, it's a lie. The Republicans aren't petulant whining children always getting "the bigger half" and upset they didn't get more. I mean I get it, all SORTS of things have changed since the 1950s, 20s, or whenever the particular wingnut thinks America was "best." (Usually when they were children, oddly enough) but those things changed a long time ago. Conservative appeal to tradition and not changing includes accepting the new reality; gay people are people, latinos can't be deported just for being poor and brown, and suppressing the entirely constitutional vote of people who don't vote your way is still wrong.

I mean if you actually gave a DAMN about illegal immigrants or the made-up voter fraud you can't stop screeching about it's not that difficult. A national ID card, easier legal immigration, and heavy prosecution of illegal hiring practices would work wonders but the GOP hates the idea. Republicans LOVE illegal immigration, they just really, really want and NEED those immigrants to be "unpersons" who provide cheap labor and get removed if they become "uppity."
 
2012-11-08 12:52:17 AM

Mr_Fabulous: Mutherfarkers lost the election 332 - 209, still don't have the Senate, and they're STILL acting like they set the agenda.

Fark them. Elections have consequences. Period.


Today on NPR: after Republicans were rejected nearly everywhere in the election, let's have on a bunch of Republican strategists on for their take on what happened..

/facepalm
 
2012-11-08 12:58:14 AM

The Homer Tax: SouthParkCon: KarmicDisaster: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

If you look at the history of the individual mandate, it was placed in there starting with Romneycare at the absolute insistence of a right wing think tank responding to insurance company worries that people would only buy insurance once they got sick and "get something for free" otherwise. It was not something pioneered by the left.

I fully agree that the individual mandate is something not pioneered by the Left, however this comes down to States rights. The Federal Government demanding all citizens to comply with the mandate, a Progressive (or whateverthefark you want me to call it) ideal, is far different that each states citizens deciding to comply with a mandate. In my opinion that is one of the principle differences between myself and a Progressive/Liberal/Whatever. If a state votes on same sex marriage, then that is that states right and it's citizens will decide. If a state wants legalized pot, then again it is up to those citizens. As far as I'm concerned the Federal Government's role should be far more limited than it has been over the last 50 years.

When the idea of the obviously mandate was first developed by Conservatives, it was intended to be applied at the federal level.

Th ...


I know Romney had previously advocated for a federal mandate, something that really shows that he wasn't as far right as he was depicted. Did he flip-flop? Of course he did when he threw his hat in the ring for POTUS, knowing full well that the base and Independents wouldn't go for that. Do I think if he became POTUS that he would have gone back to a more moderate position, sure do and it would have pissed off the base, but he would have done it anyway. That is really the fundamental difference between Romney and Obama. Bush Jr. did the same thing, however he was farther to the Right than Romney is. That's why the outcome of the election was really startling to a lot of Conservatives, even though DURING the election we would never say it, after Romney would have throw a flower on top of a turd and we would have taken a bite, Obama just hands out the turd.
 
2012-11-08 01:01:18 AM

TheBigJerk: SouthParkCon: he Left is famous for pushing a narrative of "We met 99% of what they want and they aren't budging on 1%".

Boehner: "I do. When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy."

But no, it's a lie. The Republicans aren't petulant whining children always getting "the bigger half" and upset they didn't get more. I mean I get it, all SORTS of things have changed since the 1950s, 20s, or whenever the particular wingnut thinks America was "best." (Usually when they were children, oddly enough) but those things changed a long time ago. Conservative appeal to tradition and not changing includes accepting the new reality; gay people are people, latinos can't be deported just for being poor and brown, and suppressing the entirely constitutional vote of people who don't vote your way is still wrong.

I mean if you actually gave a DAMN about illegal immigrants or the made-up voter fraud you can't stop screeching about it's not that difficult. A national ID card, easier legal immigration, and heavy prosecution of illegal hiring practices would work wonders but the GOP hates the idea. Republicans LOVE illegal immigration, they just really, really want and NEED those immigrants to be "unpersons" who provide cheap labor and get removed if they become "uppity."


Well summarized.
 
2012-11-08 01:04:11 AM

Alphax: Mr_Fabulous: Mutherfarkers lost the election 332 - 209, still don't have the Senate, and they're STILL acting like they set the agenda.

Fark them. Elections have consequences. Period.

Today on NPR: after Republicans were rejected nearly everywhere in the election, let's have on a bunch of Republican strategists on for their take on what happened..

/facepalm


That is part of the problem, just like last time.

We the American voters should have sent the message that the Republican Party ideology is outdated, meanspirited and busted, instead half the country gave them their support and and managed to pack the Senate and the House.

But it's all in the name of trying to be "fair" where we get farked.
 
2012-11-08 01:25:53 AM
In January of 2009, a newly sworn in president Obama built a large and splendid house in the center, with its front door facing to the right and lots of spare bedrooms for any republican who might want to visit.

Then he put a sign outside, "FREE CABLE"
And then "PETS ALLOWED"
And another "COOKOUT TONIGHT"
Then another "FREE RENT"

Yet no one came.

This president has literally turned himself inside out reaching across the aisle to republicans, and every single time he's had that hand slapped away by the petulant, obstinate, immature children who occupy those seats.

FU(K THEM.
 
2012-11-08 01:32:02 AM

TheBigJerk: SouthParkCon: he Left is famous for pushing a narrative of "We met 99% of what they want and they aren't budging on 1%".

Boehner: "I do. When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy."

But no, it's a lie. The Republicans aren't petulant whining children always getting "the bigger half" and upset they didn't get more. I mean I get it, all SORTS of things have changed since the 1950s, 20s, or whenever the particular wingnut thinks America was "best." (Usually when they were children, oddly enough) but those things changed a long time ago. Conservative appeal to tradition and not changing includes accepting the new reality; gay people are people, latinos can't be deported just for being poor and brown, and suppressing the entirely constitutional vote of people who don't vote your way is still wrong.

I mean if you actually gave a DAMN about illegal immigrants or the made-up voter fraud you can't stop screeching about it's not that difficult. A national ID card, easier legal immigration, and heavy prosecution of illegal hiring practices would work wonders but the GOP hates the idea. Republicans LOVE illegal immigration, they just really, really want and NEED those immigrants to be "unpersons" who provide cheap labor and get removed if they become "uppity."


I agree with the two points in bold.

"gay people are people"

People are people, and you I should live together in harmony. While there are the Right wing kooks who disagree, the vast majority of Conservatives would agree. When the gay marriage debate shifted to a debate on civil rights, I saw that as a cheap ploy by the Left to equate people getting married to the Civil Rights movement. The fact is that no major players on the Right are saying that if your gay you have to go to a certain school, use a separate bathroom or any of the other Jim Crow laws that segregated our society for so long. It's ridiculous to try and link the two.

latinos can't be deported just for being poor and brown, and suppressing the entirely constitutional vote of people who don't vote your way is still wrong. 

Nobody has advocated the removal of anybody from this country based on the color of their skin or economic status. The removal is based on how they arrived here, be it by their mama's belly on US soil or if they hopped the fence and came on in. The right of those individuals to vote is based on the first situation and should not be based on the second. The issue I have is the Left is changing the narrative from a persons legal right to vote, to a persons ability to vote. The Left want to remove any barrier for an individual to vote based purely on their showing up at a polling station, contrary to the constitution requiring that person to be a citizen, thus ensuring their dominance politically for the foreseeable future. I have a hard time understanding why anyone would see that as ok. The term "voter suppression" is the new catch phrase by the left to mask the real intent which is vote gerrymandering.
 
2012-11-08 01:58:55 AM

SouthParkCon: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts"

For the record, it's absurd statements like this that earn you the "derp" responses.

So 9th Circuit isn't stocked full of Liberal-leaning judges? 

Please tell me again how I am incorrect in that viewpoint.


One court does not qualify as "left-leaning courts". You also supply no supporting documentation. The Wikipedia page? Really? Here I thought you had 10 pages ready to go; surely you can provide even cursory support for your assertions.
 
2012-11-08 02:39:46 AM
About time you fixed the headline. Also, dumbass subby. Dumb, dumb.
 
2012-11-08 03:20:19 AM
Reid can defang McConnell in one stroke. Nuke the filibuster.
 
2012-11-08 06:53:08 AM

SouthParkCon: SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon: DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)


I actually didn't have you favorited as a douchebag.

\FTFM
 
2012-11-08 06:59:06 AM

SouthParkCon: People are people, and you I should live together in harmony. While there are the Right wing kooks who disagree, the vast majority of Conservatives would agree. When the gay marriage debate shifted to a debate on civil rights, I saw that as a cheap ploy by the Left to equate people getting married to the Civil Rights movement. The fact is that no major players on the Right are saying that if your gay you have to go to a certain school, use a separate bathroom or any of the other Jim Crow laws that segregated our society for so long. It's ridiculous to try and link the two.


You don't see the ability to publicly declare your love and commitment to the most important person in your life as a civil right? Maybe that's because you haven't been told that your relationship with your significant other is completely illegitimate and undeserving or unworthy of recognition by the world ever before. Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. What about, say, the word of the Supreme Court? I mean, it's not like they ever unanimously said that "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival." Oh, wait, they already did! Never mind.
 
2012-11-08 08:59:03 AM
Can we just begin the bombing of the Confederate states, already? It's called "pre-emptive" strikes, and we know what these Tea-tarded states are going to do for the next four years, right? If they want to fight the federal government, the president should give it to them with both barrels. As a Kentuckian, I for one look forward to my new opportunities in exile.
 
2012-11-08 09:44:10 AM

qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: qorkfiend: SouthParkCon: "Let's enact this and tie it up in noted Left leaning courts"

For the record, it's absurd statements like this that earn you the "derp" responses.

So 9th Circuit isn't stocked full of Liberal-leaning judges? 

Please tell me again how I am incorrect in that viewpoint.

One court does not qualify as "left-leaning courts". You also supply no supporting documentation. The Wikipedia page? Really? Here I thought you had 10 pages ready to go; surely you can provide even cursory support for your assertions.


You obviously didn't bother to read what was actually on the Wikipedia page and who appointed what judges.
 
2012-11-08 09:51:59 AM

Serious Black: SouthParkCon: People are people, and you I should live together in harmony. While there are the Right wing kooks who disagree, the vast majority of Conservatives would agree. When the gay marriage debate shifted to a debate on civil rights, I saw that as a cheap ploy by the Left to equate people getting married to the Civil Rights movement. The fact is that no major players on the Right are saying that if your gay you have to go to a certain school, use a separate bathroom or any of the other Jim Crow laws that segregated our society for so long. It's ridiculous to try and link the two.

You don't see the ability to publicly declare your love and commitment to the most important person in your life as a civil right? Maybe that's because you haven't been told that your relationship with your significant other is completely illegitimate and undeserving or unworthy of recognition by the world ever before. Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. What about, say, the word of the Supreme Court? I mean, it's not like they ever unanimously said that "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival." Oh, wait, they already did! Never mind.


The SCOTUS has taken up DOMA challenges and I would expect a ruling over the next few months, not sure which rulings your citing. Also if you base your self worth and commitment to your SO on what others say then that's kinda sad, whether your SO is another man or woman.
 
2012-11-08 09:53:52 AM

CheapEngineer: SouthParkCon: SouthParkCon: whidbey: SouthParkCon: DERP

whidbey: (I saved you the hassle of doing it)

I actually didn't have you favorited as a douchebag.

\FTFM


Fark...Left-Wing Echo Chamber....yadda yadda yadda...

Please put my comments in blue or pink :).
 
2012-11-08 10:20:55 AM
I hope Obama doesn't give an inch... Sequestration, tough as it is, helps balance the budget... if Republicans would rather let tax cuts expire than extend them for only the middle-class and the poor, then they can do that, I'll pay a little more, but that's ok.
 
2012-11-08 10:37:54 AM

naughtyrev: So he wants Obama to go to the left, then.


Thread over.
 
2012-11-08 10:42:22 AM
i235.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 12:34:53 PM
So to put it simply he wants to guarantee that in 2 years his party will get killed for being useless and obstructionist.

Keep it up ass hat
 
2012-11-08 06:19:47 PM

SouthParkCon: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: The Homer Tax: A Dark Evil Omen: SouthParkCon: You thought I was serious? You can't be this dense.

So answer my question: What real-world "excessive demands" on the part of the Democrats are you making this absurd example in comparison to? What is so heinous and offensive that total intransigence at every level and refusal even to discuss it is warranted? More to the point, how is it that every bill and proposal the Democrats have offered is somehow this offensive?

The excessive demands of the left started with the individual mandate. You know, the idea championed by their own party 15 years ago as the free market alternative to socialized medicine, and put into practice on a state level by the same guy they just nominated to run for president.

Well, yes, but I want SPC's answer. I want to know what he's driving at.

I'd love to hear his answer too, but I'm afraid you're not going to get one...

Sorry I had to go oppress some minorities while out to dinner with the wife and kids :).

So let's go with Obama's health care plan for starters. A mandate with a penalty, and was found by the SCOTUS to be a Tax, contrary to what was peddled to the public by Obama himself. Now I would classify that as the "5%" that made the rest of it unacceptable to swallow. Obama would not relent, and it passed based on purely party lines, and then 2010 happened.

I see the same fight coming up about immigration. Do I think that we should kick out everyone here illegally? No, that wouldn't be a realistic solution. Do I think we need to grant blanket amnesty? No, however I will more than likely be called a racist hate-monger because of that. Is there somewhere in the middle to meet? Sure. The problem is that much like what happened to Reagan, the President and those on the Left will push blanket Amnesty with some sort of additional security measure on the border, only to either deny funding to the security portion or something similar. I'll also be the fi ...


Isn't the tax only applied if you can afford health care but don't get it?
 
2012-11-08 09:46:03 PM
Mitch McTurtle: "To the extent he wants to move to the political center enthusiatically champion every last one of our radical posturing extremist positions, we'll be there to meet him half way pocket his and the Democrats' concessions, bust our few meager promises, and move even farther to the right while soccer-diving and screeching histrionically about partisan gridlock."
 
2012-11-09 02:51:48 AM
In other news, blatant extortion is now a viable political tool for "representatives".
 
2012-11-09 03:46:41 AM

SouthParkCon: Serious Black: SouthParkCon: People are people, and you I should live together in harmony. While there are the Right wing kooks who disagree, the vast majority of Conservatives would agree. When the gay marriage debate shifted to a debate on civil rights, I saw that as a cheap ploy by the Left to equate people getting married to the Civil Rights movement. The fact is that no major players on the Right are saying that if your gay you have to go to a certain school, use a separate bathroom or any of the other Jim Crow laws that segregated our society for so long. It's ridiculous to try and link the two.

You don't see the ability to publicly declare your love and commitment to the most important person in your life as a civil right? Maybe that's because you haven't been told that your relationship with your significant other is completely illegitimate and undeserving or unworthy of recognition by the world ever before. Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. What about, say, the word of the Supreme Court? I mean, it's not like they ever unanimously said that "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival." Oh, wait, they already did! Never mind.

The SCOTUS has taken up DOMA challenges and I would expect a ruling over the next few months, not sure which rulings your citing. Also if you base your self worth and commitment to your SO on what others say then that's kinda sad, whether your SO is another man or woman.


Um, it's Loving v. Virginia. You know, the court case where SCOTUS said anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional.

And why do you think people have public weddings and receptions where they invite tons of friends and family to eat, drink, and be merry with them? You think they do it because they love spending tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on a dress they'll only wear once, getting people sloppy drunk on their dime, and buying overpriced decorations that will go in the trash immediately after the festivities end? No, we have weddings because we want the people we care about to show us they are thrilled for us having found love and starting a family. And not having those friends and family show up to your wedding hurts. I've unfortunately seen this happen with some of my gay friends, where their parents and other family members refuse to attend their son's, daughter's, brother's or sister's commitment ceremony. They're happy, but they're crushed that their relationship is not recognized by the other most important people in their life. I'm sure I would feel the exact same way if my parents or my brother refused to attend my wedding.

We are social creatures. We crave acceptance from our peers, our elders, and our successors. Anyone who says otherwise is blatantly lying. Laws preventing the government from officially recognizing the love and commitment my LGBT brothers and sisters have for one another are a cruel and evil slap in the face and inevitably make them feel not accepted, and they encourage family and friends to not accept them either. Intolerance of love is unacceptable.
 
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