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(Slate)   Remember those ridiculous, disorganized, hippy-wannabes that called themselves Occupy Wall Street? Yeah, they're currently way out-performing the America Red Cross when it comes to providing diaster relief after Sandy   (slate.com) divider line 261
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2012-11-07 12:41:03 PM
I'm sure those 10 thousand meals were much appreciated. Even though the Red Cross has served more than 1.5 million meals to Sandy's victims, in a disaster like this it's hard to reach everyone who needs help.
 
2012-11-07 04:09:54 PM
Occupy Wall Street doesn't lead anything. Except maybe drum circles. These have to be other guys. Or the news is lying.

/or maybe they learned something
 
2012-11-07 04:13:27 PM
Well, sure, but those Red Cross volunteers have day jobs, too.
 
2012-11-07 04:35:13 PM

xanadian: Occupy Wall Street doesn't lead anything. Except maybe drum circles. These have to be other guys. Or the news is lying.

/or maybe they learned something


You know, maybe "community organizing" isn't such a useless skill after all. (in fact it's a highly prized specialty when you give it its other name "logisitics") During Katrina relief efforts, the actual hippies from the Rainbow Families organized something called "the New Waveland Cafe" that fed more victims and volunteers on a daily basis than any other relief effort in the area, and was on the ground faster than even the Red Cross.

I heard similiar reports from several major disasters that groups who ordinarily organize "villages" or "theme camps" for Burning Man are damned effective at organizing relief efforts too (which makes sense, after all they already have generators, giant tents, drinking water and food wholesale connections, big trucks etc)
 
2012-11-07 04:51:22 PM
I'm glad this is going green. And thus far the comments haven't been derpy at all. IT IS A NEW DAY IN AMERICA. Or at least Farklandia.
 
2012-11-07 05:31:24 PM
The article is old and the headline is a Trolls delight:

redcross.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-07 05:48:26 PM
I still.don't trust the Red Cross after the 9/11 money fiasco.
 
2012-11-07 05:49:35 PM
That's the thing about liberals: they embrace change. Complain that they're smelly? They take a bath. Lazy? They do stuff like this. Eventually there's nothing left to complain about and legal weed in Colorado happens.
 
2012-11-07 05:50:24 PM
Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?
 
2012-11-07 05:51:53 PM
The "better than Red Cross" angle on the story cheapens what otherwise might've been a powerful story about how a few people who put their unpopular political ideals into action can make incredible and positive contributions.
 
2012-11-07 05:51:59 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: I still.don't trust the Red Cross after the 9/11 money fiasco.


They're still sitting on 500M from 9-11, and they're sill asking people for money.

Red cross is backed by the Vatican. Surprise, surprise.
 
2012-11-07 05:52:21 PM

Frank N Stein: Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?


Admit it, you got bored reading the headline, saw a flimsy opportunity to mock OWS and have no actual clue what people are discussing in this thread.
 
2012-11-07 05:52:32 PM

Magorn: xanadian: Occupy Wall Street doesn't lead anything. Except maybe drum circles. These have to be other guys. Or the news is lying.

/or maybe they learned something

You know, maybe "community organizing" isn't such a useless skill after all. (in fact it's a highly prized specialty when you give it its other name "logisitics") During Katrina relief efforts, the actual hippies from the Rainbow Families organized something called "the New Waveland Cafe" that fed more victims and volunteers on a daily basis than any other relief effort in the area, and was on the ground faster than even the Red Cross.

I heard similiar reports from several major disasters that groups who ordinarily organize "villages" or "theme camps" for Burning Man are damned effective at organizing relief efforts too (which makes sense, after all they already have generators, giant tents, drinking water and food wholesale connections, big trucks etc)


The election is over, you can stop pretending now.
 
2012-11-07 05:52:50 PM
I do remember people accusing a collection of protesters calling out the Wall Street system for being an institutionalized system of corruption. I don't remember any hippies.
 
2012-11-07 05:52:56 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: I still.don't trust the Red Cross after the 9/11 money fiasco.


Me also. They took money and then bought a new phone system. They used the money for other disasters.

Give to the Salvation Army. They are much better.
 
2012-11-07 05:53:55 PM
Who cares who helps, as long as they help. The great George Steinbrenner once said: "if I help someone and more than 2 people know about it, I did it for the wrong reason"...

I hate the Yankees though
 
2012-11-07 05:54:00 PM

Mugato: I do remember people accusing a collection of protesters calling out the Wall Street system for being an institutionalized system of corruption. I don't remember any hippies.


I only remember the rapes at the occupy camps.
 
2012-11-07 05:54:12 PM
You know what bugs the hell outta me?
When news articles ask me questions like, "Is Occupy Wall Street Outperforming the Red Cross in Hurricane Relief?"

How the hell am I supposed to know?! They should come up with a conclusion and TELL me what the answer is. I'm not going to investigate this shiat myself.
 
2012-11-07 05:54:32 PM
Red Cross is sketchy, because face it you don't really know exactly where your money is going. I would rather spend money out of my pocket and buy food for those in need than to be lazy and give money blindly to any organization that says right off the bat that they'll do it for you.

/Not paranoid or cynical
//Yes I know Red Cross has the infrastructure in place to help many people
///Don't like seeing donations going to "operational costs"
 
2012-11-07 05:54:43 PM
What else are they going to do? There's only so much sign-holding-up, chanting, and generally sitting around whining that somebody can handle before they get bored. Might as well help some people out a little bit.
 
2012-11-07 05:54:46 PM

Frank N Stein: Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?


I remember lurking on Fark during the 2009 Iranian Protests when the same thing happened.

/wants Fark's green band back
 
2012-11-07 05:55:07 PM
So the people that want bigger government are outperforming government?
 
2012-11-07 05:55:46 PM
If only we had more disasters to make the useless useful.
 
2012-11-07 05:56:18 PM
To be fair, the homeless guy on my corner outperforms the Red Cross, so....
 
2012-11-07 05:56:40 PM
You know who else sometimes helped people?
 
2012-11-07 05:56:56 PM
I'll be impressed (surprised might be the better word) if this effort doesn't peter out in a few days. I remember listening to an episode of This American Life about a former anarchist (of the hippie commune variety, rather than the anarcho-capitalist) who lost his religion so to speak after he and a group of his fellow anarchists went down to New Orleans to help out after Katrina, and also to demonstrate the viability of anarchism in a place where there was effectively no government. As I recall, things went well at first. But before too long, various ideological bullshiat (for example, some people refused to serve meat) along with their philosophical opposition to hierarchical leadership basically made it impossible for them to help anyone effectively, and they all got sick of it and went home.
 
2012-11-07 05:57:34 PM

Weatherkiss: I remember lurking on Fark during the 2009 Iranian Protests when the same thing happened.

/wants Fark's green band back


Oh Lord, those were the worst. The "official" thread rules and the "we stand with Iranians!" sentimentality was terrible. People honestly deluded themselves into thinking they were doing something to help the Iranians by wearing green and posting on Fark
 
2012-11-07 05:57:39 PM
They're used to living in disaster areas, they are showing them the ropes
 
2012-11-07 05:57:44 PM
...of course the picture is of a room covered with farking Tibetan prayer flags. Of course. God dammit.
 
2012-11-07 05:57:57 PM
I have a question for all you New Fark Yorkers: Some time ago I learned New York has upwards of 2,000 "mole people" who live in abandoned alcoves underground in the subway system.

So far I have no news on where they went when the water poured in, or if they even got out alive.

Any news on this?
 
2012-11-07 05:59:54 PM

Rostin: I'll be impressed (surprised might be the better word) if this effort doesn't peter out in a few days. I remember listening to an episode of This American Life about a former anarchist (of the hippie commune variety, rather than the anarcho-capitalist) who lost his religion so to speak after he and a group of his fellow anarchists went down to New Orleans to help out after Katrina, and also to demonstrate the viability of anarchism in a place where there was effectively no government. As I recall, things went well at first. But before too long, various ideological bullshiat (for example, some people refused to serve meat) along with their philosophical opposition to hierarchical leadership basically made it impossible for them to help anyone effectively, and they all got sick of it and went home.


People generally have a hard time looking past their own One True Way To Do Things, and any sort of deviation from that vision often angers the person.
 
2012-11-07 06:00:55 PM

olddinosaur: I have a question for all you New Fark Yorkers: Some time ago I learned New York has upwards of 2,000 "mole people" who live in abandoned alcoves underground in the subway system.

So far I have no news on where they went when the water poured in, or if they even got out alive.

Any news on this?


I don't know about the other 1,999, but Sarah Jessica Parker is doing fine
 
2012-11-07 06:03:02 PM

DuudeStanky: You know what bugs the hell outta me?
When news articles ask me questions like, "Is Occupy Wall Street Outperforming the Red Cross in Hurricane Relief?"

How the hell am I supposed to know?!


When the headline is phrased as a question, the answer is generally "no" (as it is in this case).

If the answer were yes, the headline would be OCCUPY WALL STREET BEATS RED CROSS AT THEIR OWN GAME
 
2012-11-07 06:03:18 PM

GORDON: Mugato: I do remember people accusing a collection of protesters calling out the Wall Street system for being an institutionalized system of corruption. I don't remember any hippies.

I only remember the rapes at the occupy camps.



Good times, good times
/wistful sigh
 
2012-11-07 06:04:08 PM

Godscrack: Red cross is backed by the Vatican. Surprise, surprise.


tinfoilhat.jpg
 
2012-11-07 06:05:36 PM
Is Occupy Wall Street going to prove that bootstrappy private assistance performs better and is more efficient than the Federal program?

hellogiggles.com
 
2012-11-07 06:05:58 PM

DuudeStanky: You know what bugs the hell outta me?
When news articles ask me questions like, "Is Occupy Wall Street Outperforming the Red Cross in Hurricane Relief?"

How the hell am I supposed to know?! They should come up with a conclusion and TELL me what the answer is. I'm not going to investigate this shiat myself.


Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word "no"
 
2012-11-07 06:06:18 PM
Could it be that occupiers were actually very well organized and that the failure to organize a electoral-political wing was not a failure of organization but rather, a failure to desire to do so?
 
2012-11-07 06:07:13 PM

Frank N Stein: Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?


I was thinking about Occupy Wall Street earlier, and I decided that maybe they did have something to do with how the election turned out. If not for them, all that "stuff" that happened in 2008 would have been largely forgotten by now by the average person. By them coming around, and hanging around for so long, I think even a lot of the blockheads in the world managed to figure out that we are being farked, farked, by corporations and by the people who buy elections. And Romney was kind of a symbol of that.

Even if you hated Occupy, everybody can get in on a good victim story. And then the Republicans just piled it on more, by just coming out and telling us that they actually couldn't stand anybody who didn't have money, and they intended to make us suffer for it.

So there. I don't give a fark what you think. I think they had a lasting influence on the way we think about some things.
 
2012-11-07 06:07:57 PM

Frank N Stein: Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?


http://i.imgur.com/XUnxA.gif
 
2012-11-07 06:08:33 PM

DuudeStanky: You know what bugs the hell outta me?
When news articles ask me questions like, "Is Occupy Wall Street Outperforming the Red Cross in Hurricane Relief?"

How the hell am I supposed to know?! They should come up with a conclusion and TELL me what the answer is. I'm not going to investigate this shiat myself.


A general rule: If a headline ends in a question the answer is generally 'no'.

/farking hate questions in a ledes and headlines
 
2012-11-07 06:08:44 PM
Maybe they're not outperforming the Red Cross, but they're sure as shiat outperforming the Tea Party when it comes to helping people.

I think the Tea Party's stance on people who are now homeless because of Sandy is that they should have bought gold so they could pay privatized companies to fix everything, because homeless people are bums.
 
2012-11-07 06:08:45 PM
i.imgur.com

Chrome needs to decide whether or not it eats coding or links in my Fark posts.
 
2012-11-07 06:10:33 PM

Frank N Stein: Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?


Roots break rocks.
 
2012-11-07 06:10:45 PM
So now bailing out the 1% is cool?
 
2012-11-07 06:11:10 PM

Wireless Joe: Is Occupy Wall Street going to prove that bootstrappy private assistance performs better and is more efficient than the Federal program?

[hellogiggles.com image 341x192]


no
 
2012-11-07 06:11:24 PM

Mugato: I do remember people accusing a collection of protesters calling out the Wall Street system for being an institutionalized system of corruption. I don't remember any hippies.


The place was crawling with beatniks playing their damn bongo drums, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix.
 
2012-11-07 06:11:45 PM

Onkel Buck: So the people that want bigger government are outperforming government?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-07 06:12:58 PM

Raithun: DuudeStanky: You know what bugs the hell outta me?
When news articles ask me questions like, "Is Occupy Wall Street Outperforming the Red Cross in Hurricane Relief?"

How the hell am I supposed to know?!

When the headline is phrased as a question, the answer is generally "no" (as it is in this case).

If the answer were yes, the headline would be OCCUPY WALL STREET BEATS RED CROSS AT THEIR OWN GAME

Runs_With_Scissors_: DuudeStanky: You know what bugs the hell outta me?
When news articles ask me questions like, "Is Occupy Wall Street Outperforming the Red Cross in Hurricane Relief?"

How the hell am I supposed to know?! They should come up with a conclusion and TELL me what the answer is. I'm not going to investigate this shiat myself.

A general rule: If a headline ends in a question the answer is generally 'no'
.

/farking hate questions in a ledes and headlines


You still in the business?
 
2012-11-07 06:13:10 PM

cryinoutloud: Frank N Stein: Remember when Occupy Wall Street was going to smash the status quo and half of fark was dickriding them?

I was thinking about Occupy Wall Street earlier, and I decided that maybe they did have something to do with how the election turned out. If not for them, all that "stuff" that happened in 2008 would have been largely forgotten by now by the average person. By them coming around, and hanging around for so long, I think even a lot of the blockheads in the world managed to figure out that we are being farked, farked, by corporations and by the people who buy elections. And Romney was kind of a symbol of that.

Even if you hated Occupy, everybody can get in on a good victim story. And then the Republicans just piled it on more, by just coming out and telling us that they actually couldn't stand anybody who didn't have money, and they intended to make us suffer for it.

So there. I don't give a fark what you think. I think they had a lasting influence on the way we think about some things.


"The 1%" entered the vernacular thanks to them. that concept has a lasting impact whether or not the derptards admit it.
 
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