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2012-11-07 09:26:55 AM

Is barbecue dying?


Did Netcraft confirm it?
 
2012-11-07 09:30:24 AM
Aslong as KC style exists I'm ok
/
 
2012-11-07 09:31:18 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: Is barbecue dying?


Did Netcraft confirm it?


WITH HOT GRITS
 
2012-11-07 09:32:03 AM
This is why it's important to reject sin in all forms, including things like putting tomato on barbeque. Boars even SMELL like vinegar, so that we may know Eastern Carolina Barbeque is the will of God.
 
2012-11-07 09:32:15 AM
It lives strong in Texas.
 
2012-11-07 09:33:40 AM
My brand new smoker and I say "hells no". Bring on the T-giving turkey...double smoked, apple/honey brined turkey on the menu.

/KC bbq sucks
//Real bbq doesn't need sauce
///Oh no he didn't
////That's right bbq snob thread biatches
 
2012-11-07 09:34:51 AM
What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.
 
2012-11-07 09:35:14 AM
There's only one BBQ joint in my new neck of the woods (northeast) and I tried 4 different menu items....NOTHING WAS CRISPY.
 
2012-11-07 09:35:18 AM
They can have my slow-smoked ribs when they pry it from my cold, dead, greasy fingers.
 
2012-11-07 09:37:29 AM
Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?
 
2012-11-07 09:37:33 AM

texdent: It lives strong in Texas.


Texas is the Holy Land of BBQ. Every true believer should make a pilgrimage.
 
2012-11-07 09:37:52 AM
Short answer:

Barbeque? No. "Real barbeque," as practiced by provincial Southern chuckleheads who think using a somewhat repugnant play based on the slavery debates between Lincoln and Douglas is somehow relevant? Yes.

Barbeque is no longer "special", and hasn't been for a long time. It's just another culinary offering in America. It joins grinders, pizza, and other American culinary offerings with regional variations, nothing more. Deal with it and move on.
 
2012-11-07 09:38:28 AM

Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.


You're an evil, evil person. You know that, right?
 
2012-11-07 09:38:43 AM
If by bbq you mean big green egg, then no. It is not dead.

There are no good bbq joints around here, I've had to create my own in my yard.
 
2012-11-07 09:39:15 AM

texdent: It lives strong in Texas.


Yeah, if you call that barbecue.
 
2012-11-07 09:39:56 AM

FormlessOne: Short answer:

Barbeque? No. "Real barbeque," as practiced by provincial Southern chuckleheads who think using a somewhat repugnant play based on the slavery debates between Lincoln and Douglas is somehow relevant? Yes.

Barbeque is no longer "special", and hasn't been for a long time. It's just another culinary offering in America. It joins grinders, pizza, and other American culinary offerings with regional variations, nothing more. Deal with it and move on.


9/10.
 
2012-11-07 09:40:42 AM
Smoked a turkey breast on Sunday and it was awesome!

/really big papers I have
//used Bad Byron's Butt Rub
 
2012-11-07 09:42:17 AM
Dying? Maybe in the context that the food was born in. Take the least popular, most available and generally cheapest cuts of meat and smoke/slow cook for hours to taste awesome. It was done out of necessity and time wasn't a factor.

Time being a factor now for most people, and the willingness to pay for better cuts of meat that are easier to cook (Chops, loin), true BBQ on a home scale may be dying. I mean, who wants to wait 8-14 hours for dinner to be done? (I do, but beside the point)

I highly doubt that restaurants will ever stop serving the food though, pretty much every American likes BBQ (except when it's "too smokey"). Its one of the few things to come from the south that most Americans enjoy.

/My dream is to open a BBQ restaurant in a foreign country
//Germany?
///Would the UK enjoy BBQ?
 
2012-11-07 09:42:48 AM

Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.


Subtle and concise, 10/10!
 
2012-11-07 09:43:09 AM

texdent: It lives strong in Texas.


mmm brisket
 
2012-11-07 09:43:51 AM

LeafyGreens: Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.

Subtle and concise, 10/10!


And not BBQ technically. That is Grilling.
 
2012-11-07 09:43:57 AM

Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.


your dead to me
 
2012-11-07 09:44:11 AM
Hate to tell you but lots of inter-generational activities are dying. Sailing, incest...lots of them.
 
2012-11-07 09:44:35 AM

loonatic112358: Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.

your dead to me


frogdammit, i'll go off to the gas chamber so the grammar nazis will be happy
 
2012-11-07 09:45:14 AM

d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?


When I started I used Recipes from Southern Living Magazine. I learned the technique using those recipes and then started experimenting and making it my own from there.
 
2012-11-07 09:45:46 AM

d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?


Yes;

Recipe not required. all you need is some ribs or brisket (an ENTIRE brisket), some dry rub, wood, and time.
 
2012-11-07 09:45:49 AM

Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.


9/10

I'd go for 10/10 if you said you insisted on using a gas-powered hibachi.
 
2012-11-07 09:46:52 AM

The Southern Logic Company: ///Would the UK enjoy BBQ?


the ones that wind up in texas do
 
2012-11-07 09:46:57 AM
The real question posed by TFA was "Is traditional, distinctly regionalized, Southern bbq getting bled out and homogenized along with its popularity?"

But another question: "Why oh why would I read that having not eaten beakfast?"
 
2012-11-07 09:47:35 AM

Random Discord: d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?

Yes;

Recipe not required. all you need is some ribs or brisket (an ENTIRE brisket), some dry rub, wood, and time.


There are few things in life that I can say this about myself, but when it comes to brisket I'm a bottom.
 
2012-11-07 09:47:38 AM
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Ft Bend County (Tx) style brisket. Salt and pepper only and 14 hours of slow pecan smoke...

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Righteous.
 
2012-11-07 09:49:10 AM

Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.


2/10!!
 
2012-11-07 09:49:22 AM

ArcadianRefugee: texdent: It lives strong in Texas.

Yeah, if you call that barbecue.


The thing is...Texans don't move too often to KC, Memphis, or anywhere else to cook BBQ there.

Their champ BBQers move here to try and show US how it's done.

So, we get 5-10 awesome places in each big city here that are diverse, and have other ways of cooking BBQ that you can choose from.

Texas really is the melting pot of American BBQ. On top of that, add Mexican Barbecoa into the mix = Total. Win.
 
2012-11-07 09:49:37 AM

Random Discord: LeafyGreens: Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.

Subtle and concise, 10/10!

And not BBQ technically. That is Grilling.


That'sthejoke.jpg
 
2012-11-07 09:49:38 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x633]

Ft Bend County (Tx) style brisket. Salt and pepper only and 14 hours of slow pecan smoke...

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x633]

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x633]

Righteous.


i like covering it tony cacheres, then wrapping it in foil for a few hours, then uinwrapping it and sticking it back in

/too lazy to make a rub seems rather stupid when you look at all the other work that goes in it
//has a friend that has a restaurant sized smoker, 40 briskets at a time, fark yea
 
2012-11-07 09:51:01 AM

Random Discord: d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?

Yes;

Recipe not required. all you need is some ribs or brisket (an ENTIRE brisket), some dry rub, wood, and time.


Your wood is going to get all messed up by the propane. Better just leave it out.
 
2012-11-07 09:51:05 AM
Salt Lick, I love you so.
imageshack.us
 
2012-11-07 09:51:34 AM

LeafyGreens: Random Discord: LeafyGreens: Pocket Ninja: What a stupid question. I barbecued some hot dogs and burgers just the other day, even threw on some shish ka bobs for good measure.

Subtle and concise, 10/10!

And not BBQ technically. That is Grilling.

That'sthejoke.jpg


Yeah, I realized that as soon as I saw that it was Pocket Ninja. Unfortunately the realization didn't arrive until AFTER I clicked submit.
 
2012-11-07 09:51:54 AM
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I don't understand how those mouthbreathing, wood-burning, Mountain Dew guzzling Texans or North Carolinians can call what they do BBQ. If it didn't come from a gas grill, just feed it to the dogs.

///take notes, PocketNinja
 
2012-11-07 09:54:55 AM
Barbecue symposium = cash
Those questions, in some fashion, were at the center of a barbecue symposium held in mid-October in Oxford, Miss., by the Southern Foodways Alliance, a non for profit organization of scholars, restaurateurs, writers and passionate eaters that explores food financial issues related to the South and it's cash cow. 

there's millions if not billions tied up in BBQ now. Manufacturers of equipment, food manufacturers, television personalities and television shows, the personal income of the production crews and their families, business real estate companies.

The air hadn't better come out of BBQ's notoriety any time soon or it's going to require more than a handful of napkins to clean up.

Now Grillin', well, that's huge - and that aint' goin' anywhere soon. Doesn't' have the press that BBQ does though.
 
2012-11-07 09:55:00 AM

Mr Guy: Random Discord: d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?

Yes;

Recipe not required. all you need is some ribs or brisket (an ENTIRE brisket), some dry rub, wood, and time.

Your wood is going to get all messed up by the propane. Better just leave it out.


Propane!?? Philistine

That's actually the problem most people don't have the correct equipment at home to BBQ
 
2012-11-07 09:55:25 AM

d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?


The Virtual Weber Bullet is how I initially learned
 
2012-11-07 09:55:40 AM

loonatic112358: The Southern Logic Company: ///Would the UK enjoy BBQ?

the ones that wind up in texas do


I would make something more like Georgia/NC style. Not very good with the brisket like Texans are.
 
2012-11-07 09:55:48 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x633]

Ft Bend County (Tx) style brisket. Salt and pepper only and 14 hours of slow pecan smoke...

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x633]

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x633]

Righteous.


Bourbon, brisket, AND beer? That looks like a pretty good day.
 
2012-11-07 09:56:59 AM
BBQ is slow cooked usually over wood, preferrably over wood.

Anything else is grilled.
 
2012-11-07 09:57:10 AM

d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?


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/I keed, I keed


This one is pretty good actually. It has a lot of good grilling as well as BBQ recipes.


i478.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-07 09:57:14 AM

Random Discord: Mr Guy: Random Discord: d-fens99: Where's a good source for actual BBQ recipes? I grill a lot, but its not the same thing to my understanding. BBQ is low temp and slow cooking times, yes?

Yes;

Recipe not required. all you need is some ribs or brisket (an ENTIRE brisket), some dry rub, wood, and time.

Your wood is going to get all messed up by the propane. Better just leave it out.

Propane!?? Philistine

That's actually the problem most people don't have the correct equipment at home to BBQ


I know, it's sad to think some people have to make do with wood chips because they don't have access to a solid American steel pig cooker that can maintain exactly the correct temperature for hours. I guess it's no wonder that people are forced to resort to using spices and tomato sauces to cover the wood flavor of their meat, after they ruin it.
 
2012-11-07 09:58:51 AM

Random Discord: That's actually the problem most people don't have the correct equipment at home to BBQ


This the 1st smoker I owned was a Brinkman Vertical smoker it was a biatch to get the temperature right, I then went with a Chargriller Barrel type with optional fire box it worked very well but took up a lot of space, now I am using a Big Green Egg and have been pretty happy.
 
2012-11-07 09:58:55 AM

cgraves67: texdent: It lives strong in Texas.

Texas is the Holy Land of BBQ. Every true believer should make a pilgrimage.


Southern Illinois is a contender, too.

That said, yes, Texas barbecue is impressive.
 
2012-11-07 10:00:34 AM

Civil_War2_Time: ArcadianRefugee: texdent: It lives strong in Texas.

Yeah, if you call that barbecue.

The thing is...Texans don't move too often to KC, Memphis, or anywhere else to cook BBQ there.

Their champ BBQers move here to try and show US how it's done.

So, we get 5-10 awesome places in each big city here that are diverse, and have other ways of cooking BBQ that you can choose from.

Texas really is the melting pot of American BBQ. On top of that, add Mexican Barbecoa into the mix = Total. Win.


The only real BBQ contest is the American Royal in KC. Sorry you were informed of this
 
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