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2012-11-07 10:03:22 AM
Could an entire stadium be sentenced if at the next home win, Jerry got trampled on the sidelines as people rushed the field?

I feel like no.


///NFC East vs. AFC West for the NFL title of craziest incompetence. I think it would end in a draw.
 
2012-11-07 10:30:21 AM
Proving that the Al Davis quotient of the the NFL must be > 1.
 
2012-11-07 10:31:46 AM
with al davis dead, id say that the nfc east has the lead with the jerry and dan snyder
 
2012-11-07 10:33:33 AM

farbekrieg: with al davis dead, id say that the nfc east has the lead with the jerry and dan snyder


they should put the Oakland Raiders, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins and Tennessee Titans in the same division and call it the crazy old bastard division
 
2012-11-07 10:34:36 AM

farbekrieg: with al davis dead, id say that the nfc east has the lead with the jerry and dan snyder


Snyder eventually hired a GM (Bruce Allen) though.
 
2012-11-07 10:36:59 AM
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So is Jerry Jones the final argument that having a ring doesn't make you untouchable when it comes to criticism? What about three?
 
2012-11-07 10:37:27 AM
"Jones and the Cowboys have complied a 123-124 regular season record since 1997."

Not saying I don't make typos, but this is their farking job.

Anyways, I thought it would comments expressing faith in Tony Romo...
 
2012-11-07 10:38:40 AM

thecpt: Not saying I don't make typos, but this is their farking job.

Anyways, I thought it would comments expressing faith in Tony Romo...


*giggle*
 
2012-11-07 10:39:11 AM

Treygreen13: [jsportsblogger.files.wordpress.com image 650x440]

So is Jerry Jones the final argument that having a ring doesn't make you untouchable when it comes to criticism? What about three?


The problem is that jimmy gets the credit for putting together the teans that won it all, something jerry cant stand... He wants to be the man...
 
2012-11-07 10:39:26 AM
I wish he would just put himself in the ring of honor and retire to his pizza business.
 
2012-11-07 10:40:36 AM

Treygreen13: *giggle*


ha. At least I kind of inb4d I guess.

stupid dyslexia.
 
2012-11-07 10:41:27 AM

Treygreen13: thecpt: Not saying I don't make typos, but this is their farking job.

Anyways, I thought it would comments expressing faith in Tony Romo...

*giggle*


Hush now, he's still getting used to the "new" button arrangement.
 
2012-11-07 10:42:17 AM
Jerry Jones' first act when he bought the team was to fire Tom Landry, the only coach the team ever had until then, and hire a crony. While that was Jimmy Johnson, it still seemed dirty at the time. Firing Johnson after he won two Super Bowls in a row proved Jones is an idiot. The only other owner arrogant and stupid enough to be his own GM is Mike Brown of the Cincinnati Bungles.
 
2012-11-07 10:44:46 AM

Dinobot: The problem is that jimmy gets the credit for putting together the teans that won it all, something jerry cant stand... He wants to be the man...


Agreed.
 
2012-11-07 10:46:56 AM
This is karmic retribution for firing Tom Landry.

After a bountiful initial yield, there will be twenty years of famine.
 
2012-11-07 10:47:28 AM

macdaddy357: Jerry Jones' first act when he bought the team was to fire Tom Landry, the only coach the team ever had until then, and hire a crony.


You should check out a more detailed history of the Dallas Cowboys. Landry (while a legend) was no longer an effective NFL head coach and firing him was a condition of purchasing the team. A condition that Bum Bright put out and had been asking Tex Schramm for since 1987.
 
2012-11-07 10:48:24 AM
Setting the DVR for Jimmy Johnson: A Football Life tonight on NFL network. I'd like to see the whole fall out with Jones re-visited.
 
2012-11-07 10:49:02 AM
Sorry Jerry. You suck as a GM and as an owner. I won't go so far as saying you suck as a human being, but you ARE the owner of the Dallas Cowboys.

He really needs to step down and hire someone more competent. 1996 was a LONG time ago; I know, because that's the year I got married. And divorced in 2010. You have NO excuse.
 
2012-11-07 10:49:34 AM

muck4doo: Setting the DVR for Jimmy Johnson: A Football Life tonight on NFL network. I'd like to see the whole fall out with Jones re-visited.


If you'd like, I got my copy of Boys Will Be Boys (audiobook) back from loaning it to a friend. I could send it your way if you're interested.
 
2012-11-07 10:49:50 AM

Treygreen13: macdaddy357: Jerry Jones' first act when he bought the team was to fire Tom Landry, the only coach the team ever had until then, and hire a crony.

You should check out a more detailed history of the Dallas Cowboys. Landry (while a legend) was no longer an effective NFL head coach and firing him was a condition of purchasing the team. A condition that Bum Bright put out and had been asking Tex Schramm for since 1987.


The game had passed him by. He used that "flex" defense long past its shelf life.
 
2012-11-07 10:50:38 AM

Treygreen13: muck4doo: Setting the DVR for Jimmy Johnson: A Football Life tonight on NFL network. I'd like to see the whole fall out with Jones re-visited.

If you'd like, I got my copy of Boys Will Be Boys (audiobook) back from loaning it to a friend. I could send it your way if you're interested.


That would be awesome. :)
 
2012-11-07 10:52:12 AM

muck4doo: The game had passed him by. He used that "flex" defense long past its shelf life.



Here I sit, asshole flexin', givin' birth to another Tex -- ehhh.....nevermind.
 
2012-11-07 10:53:25 AM

muck4doo: The game had passed him by. He used that "flex" defense long past its shelf life.

 

Well, that and the team was 3-13 and had 3 straight losing seasons. Jason Garrett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.
 
2012-11-07 10:59:26 AM

Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.


Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?
 
2012-11-07 11:01:18 AM

thecpt: Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.

Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?


No. Garrett needs to be gone.
 
2012-11-07 11:01:22 AM

thecpt: Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.

Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?


The defense aint that bad... The oline, time clock management and a headcase as your qb is...
 
2012-11-07 11:01:24 AM

thecpt: "Jones and the Cowboys have complied a 123-124 regular season record since 1997."

Not saying I don't make typos, but this is their farking job.

Anyways, I thought it would comments expressing faith in Tony Romo...


"We've had success doing it this way and we're going to have success in the future doing it this way," Jones said.

50% record is how he defines success?
 
2012-11-07 11:03:04 AM

thecpt: Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.

Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?


If we're going to do ideal "what if" scenarios, you'd have Phillips as D-Coordinator and Garrett as O-Coordinator and then a real head coach.
 
2012-11-07 11:05:36 AM

farbekrieg: with al davis dead, id say that the nfc east has the lead with the jerry and dan snyder


I mistyped the face off gauntlet, it should have been crazy/incompetent.

Some entries off the top of my head:

NFC East:
Jerry
Dan
Jeff
Andy
Shanahanalomadingdong
Romoceptions
Vick
Manning's Manningface
DeSean

AFC West:
Norv
Romeo's stare
Manning's Manningface
Al Davis' eternal flame
Raider Nation
Full Jake Rivers
Those creepy Rivers mouth-eye pics
Courageous Quinn
 
2012-11-07 11:06:25 AM

Dinobot: The defense aint that bad... The oline, time clock management and a headcase as your qb is...



i remember the game vs I think Green Bay (?) a few weeks ago where all game, Bryan Billick was killing the 'Boys for nto getting playcalls in quickly, and in that final drive they were like, "doop de doo, 45 seconds left, no timeouts, doop de doo, let's just cazh our way up the line, doop de doo, clock ticking, no call game in, god forbid we spike the ball...."

nutty.
 
2012-11-07 11:10:47 AM

Treygreen13: thecpt: Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.

Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?

If we're going to do ideal "what if" scenarios, you'd have Phillips as D-Coordinator and Garrett as O-Coordinator and then a real head coach.


Sean Payton?
 
2012-11-07 11:20:39 AM
Please stop comparing Jerry Jones to Al Davis. Al was a football genius until 2002 or '03 by the time he passed he had forgotten more about football than Jerry will ever know. I hated him for moving the team to LA, costing them their identity and mystique.

He turned a used car lot and minority stake in a fledgling football team into a recognizable brand and for a time, the winningest franchise in professional sports. Jerry Jones took an established national brand and turned it into a .500 football team because of his ego.

There's worlds of difference between the two and comparisons are unfair to Al, who I wouldn't piss on if his ashes were on fire.

Jones to Dan Snyder references are legitimate.
 
2012-11-07 11:27:50 AM

roc6783: Sean Payton?



isn't it about time for the annual "Where Will Bill Cowher Land?" rumor mill to start up?
 
2012-11-07 11:30:47 AM

Dinobot: The defense aint that bad... The oline, time clock management and a headcase as your qb is...


Tony Romo is not a headcase. He's frighteningly consistent. He has a bad game occasionally, just like every other QB. He's had 2 games with high INT totals this season but there's a story behind them. Statistically Tony is a solid QB in pretty much any situation.

rickythepenguin: i remember the game vs I think Green Bay (?) a few weeks ago where all game, Bryan Billick was killing the 'Boys for nto getting playcalls in quickly, and in that final drive they were like, "doop de doo, 45 seconds left, no timeouts, doop de doo, let's just cazh our way up the line, doop de doo, clock ticking, no call game in, god forbid we spike the ball...."

nutty.


You're probably thinking of the Ravens game, where Dez Bryant screamed at the referee for 15 seconds while the rest of the offense was lining up.

PluckYew: Please stop comparing Jerry Jones to Al Davis. Al was a football genius until 2002 or '03 by the time he passed he had forgotten more about football than Jerry will ever know. I hated him for moving the team to LA, costing them their identity and mystique.

He turned a used car lot and minority stake in a fledgling football team into a recognizable brand and for a time, the winningest franchise in professional sports. Jerry Jones took an established national brand and turned it into a .500 football team because of his ego.

There's worlds of difference between the two and comparisons are unfair to Al, who I wouldn't piss on if his ashes were on fire.

Jones to Dan Snyder references are legitimate.


No chance Al gets this much credit. I know he's gone and it's nice to think of him in memory, but Al was a nutbar.
 
2012-11-07 11:47:37 AM

PluckYew: Please stop comparing Jerry Jones to Al Davis. Al was a football genius until 2002 or '03 by the time he passed he had forgotten more about football than Jerry will ever know. I hated him for moving the team to LA, costing them their identity and mystique.

He turned a used car lot and minority stake in a fledgling football team into a recognizable brand and for a time, the winningest franchise in professional sports. Jerry Jones took an established national brand and turned it into a .500 football team because of his ego.

There's worlds of difference between the two and comparisons are unfair to Al, who I wouldn't piss on if his ashes were on fire.

Jones to Dan Snyder references are legitimate.


Short answer, no.

Jerry 3 rings Davis 3 rings
al davis owner record 333-285 .539
jerry jones owner record 201-175 .535

both consumed by egomania, both made some good and not so good moves

snyder on the other hand has brought how many titles to dc?
 
2012-11-07 11:49:07 AM
Another Jerry Jones thread? He's crazy. He has an ego. I thought we already went over this?
 
2012-11-07 11:49:29 AM

farbekrieg: snyder on the other hand has brought how many titles to dc?



I'll never forget Tony Kornheiser's on-air orgasm (airgasm?) when Washington resigned Dan Reeves circa 2005. he (Mistah Tony) was counting rings. "we're gettin' the band back together, maaaan!"
 
2012-11-07 11:50:24 AM

Dinobot: thecpt: Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.

Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?

The defense aint that bad... The oline, time clock management and a headcase as your qb is...


O-line sucks, head coaching sucks but the QB problems is a lot farther down the list of problems than #3.

Tony Romo's tenure as QB of the Cowboys has been like a rollercoaster for me. At the beginning I was very high on him and believed that he could mature to be one of the best QBs that Cowboys have had. He had the skills and Jerry Jones has always put talent on the team (even if chemistry doesn't always pan out). After that I was pretty low on Tony Romo as he has struggled late in seasons and in post seasons, kept losing to the Giants which have owned the NFC East for the past 4-5 seasons (not always winning the division but always showing up when it counts) and laying turds in the most important, high profile games.

But then you see Romo playing when he's in the no huddle offense and he looks as good as the top QBs in the league right now. He marches the team down the field in a quick fashion and drives are only stopped by penalties. The no huddle offense hides the shortcomings that Tony Romo has as well as the ones that the team has in general and is the only way the current team can win.
 
2012-11-07 11:50:25 AM

Di Atribe: Another Jerry Jones thread? He's crazy. He has an ego. I thought we already went over this?


yes but now it is wednesday... thursday...

/i need a drink
 
2012-11-07 11:52:47 AM

muck4doo: Setting the DVR for Jimmy Johnson: A Football Life tonight on NFL network. I'd like to see the whole fall out with Jones re-visited.


Have you seen ESPN's "30 for 30" on the University of Miami? Great special.
 
2012-11-07 11:53:22 AM

Di Atribe: Another Jerry Jones thread? He's crazy. He has an ego. I thought we already went over this?



I couldn't bear to not see you, hotness. I knew I'd find you here.
 
2012-11-07 11:58:19 AM

ddam: Dinobot: thecpt: Treygreen13: ett's head is being clamored for right now and they have as many wins right now in week 9 as Landry did in that final season.

Do you guys do a what if of Wade Phillips being defensive coordinator while making Garrett head coach?

The defense aint that bad... The oline, time clock management and a headcase as your qb is...

O-line sucks, head coaching sucks but the QB problems is a lot farther down the list of problems than #3.

Tony Romo's tenure as QB of the Cowboys has been like a rollercoaster for me. At the beginning I was very high on him and believed that he could mature to be one of the best QBs that Cowboys have had. He had the skills and Jerry Jones has always put talent on the team (even if chemistry doesn't always pan out). After that I was pretty low on Tony Romo as he has struggled late in seasons and in post seasons, kept losing to the Giants which have owned the NFC East for the past 4-5 seasons (not always winning the division but always showing up when it counts) and laying turds in the most important, high profile games.

But then you see Romo playing when he's in the no huddle offense and he looks as good as the top QBs in the league right now. He marches the team down the field in a quick fashion and drives are only stopped by penalties. The no huddle offense hides the shortcomings that Tony Romo has as well as the ones that the team has in general and is the only way the current team can win.


The no-huddle and the short passing game is the only way the Cowboys can move the ball right now, because it prevents the O-line from having to run block (because they can't) and they only need to pass-block for a second at most. I know we disagree on Romo's shortcomings but we agree that this seems to be the best way to play right now.

I do wish they'd get more designed plays to the RBs in the passing game to at least fake a running game until Murray comes back. The o-line can't run block but if you can get the RBs in space you've got a chance to at least get production out of something other than Tony throwing 62 passes.
 
2012-11-07 11:58:34 AM

rickythepenguin: I couldn't bear to not see you, hotness. I knew I'd find you here.


i.imgur.com


/jk keep going
 
2012-11-07 12:01:04 PM

rickythepenguin: farbekrieg: snyder on the other hand has brought how many titles to dc?


I'll never forget Tony Kornheiser's on-air orgasm (airgasm?) when Washington resigned Dan Reeves circa 2005. he (Mistah Tony) was counting rings. "we're gettin' the band back together, maaaan!"


Joe Gibbs?
 
2012-11-07 12:05:17 PM

PluckYew: ***snip***


The comparison isn't between 70's Al Davis and Jerry or Al's body of work and Jerry's body of work. The comparison is between a power-hungry old man overestimating his football acumen and becoming a caricature of himself and...nope that covers it.

rickythepenguin: roc6783: Sean Payton?


isn't it about time for the annual "Where Will Bill Cowher Land?" rumor mill to start up?


List of living retired head coaches who will never return to coaching (feel free to add the ones I of course missed):

Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
Eric Mangini
Jim Mora Sr.
Herm Edwards
Tony Dungy
Jon Gruden
Mike Holmgren - Kind of doesn't count as he is a front office guy now
Joe Gibbs - Kind of doesn't count as he is a front office guy now
Bill Parcells
Steve Mariucci
 
2012-11-07 12:05:28 PM

Di
Atribe
:
/jk keep going


poo. image blocked.


PluckYew: Joe Gibbs?


bleh, you people all look alike.
 
2012-11-07 12:10:16 PM
Speaking as a fan who has detested the Cowgirls dating from their "America's Team" BS, allow me to salute owner Jerry Jones for sticking by his GM, Jerry Jones.
 
2012-11-07 12:10:40 PM

Treygreen13: I do wish they'd get more designed plays to the RBs in the passing game to at least fake a running game until Murray comes back. The o-line can't run block but if you can get the RBs in space you've got a chance to at least get production out of something other than Tony throwing 62 passes


what are the options there, felix jones and tanner?

/romo to witten flowchart
 
2012-11-07 12:14:55 PM

farbekrieg: Treygreen13: I do wish they'd get more designed plays to the RBs in the passing game to at least fake a running game until Murray comes back. The o-line can't run block but if you can get the RBs in space you've got a chance to at least get production out of something other than Tony throwing 62 passes

what are the options there, felix jones and tanner?

/romo to witten flowchart


Not Tanner really. Dunbar is much faster.
 
2012-11-07 12:15:03 PM

farbekrieg: Treygreen13: I do wish they'd get more designed plays to the RBs in the passing game to at least fake a running game until Murray comes back. The o-line can't run block but if you can get the RBs in space you've got a chance to at least get production out of something other than Tony throwing 62 passes

what are the options there, felix jones and tanner?

/romo to witten flowchart


Felix Jones sucks as a runner but he can be successful if used in those small 3-5 yards throws and he has room to run. That's the only place Jones can be successful. Tanner seems a bit lost out there but he's a rookie (I think or second year).

However, even with those two RBs the Cowboys can have a running game if the defense is breathing hard and not able to substitute players and are too tired to even line up like it happened in the TD drive in 4th quarter against Atlanta. Do that for the whole game and the wins will come.
 
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