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2012-11-07 01:25:51 AM  
"Facts are stupid things."
 
2012-11-07 04:30:05 AM  
http://www.natesilverwrong.com/

Check the whois.
 
2012-11-07 06:27:48 AM  
Someone's overusing the term, "civil war"
 
2012-11-07 06:58:09 AM  

Bontesla: Someone's overusing the term, "civil war"


I don't know about that, FTFA:

Reality TV star Donald Trump railed on Twitter about a "sham" election, saying "we should have a revolution in this country."

This is what scares me. You will always have crazies, but to hear sentiments like this from prominent businessmen and "news" sources is just scary and disheartening. Not liking the outcome != sham election.
 
2012-11-07 07:54:10 AM  
It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.
 
2012-11-07 08:45:33 AM  

greentea1985: It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.


I wish I could have seen that. Hopefully there are some youtube records of it.
 
2012-11-07 09:39:36 AM  

Cythraul: greentea1985: It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.

I wish I could have seen that. Hopefully there are some youtube records of it.


It really was awesome, after they came back from a break and Megyn Kelly kicked it over to Turd Blossom and whatever numbers monkey from the backroom he was going to harangue the numbers started to come in from Cuyahoga county and he was obviously grasping at straws and realizing he had overplayed a bad hand and likely pissed off his masters at FOX. We may have just seen Karl Rove lose some of his power over how Duke brother he went on this last PM
 
2012-11-07 09:41:45 AM  
I never thought I would say this, but last night when the co-anchor was asked to trot down the hall, microphone in hand, to reconcile their decision room's call with Rove's long-outdated numbers, knowing all the while that Rove was in a heated discussion with Romney's advisors about postponing the concession speech, I was honestly embarrassed for Fox News.
 
2012-11-07 09:57:45 AM  
Hopefully Karl Rove will be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. Its what the Founding Founders would have done.
 
2012-11-07 10:13:05 AM  

Cythraul: greentea1985: It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.

I wish I could have seen that. Hopefully there are some youtube records of it.


Yeah, right around 9pm CST, FoxNews pulled their feed from the local Chicago station, so all I had was a couple of harried local anchors talking with their contact at the Obama rally. It was quite disappointing.
 
2012-11-07 10:16:11 AM  
More live reports from the reality based community!
 
2012-11-07 10:23:58 AM  
fta: there were few fireworks (beyond Fox News star Bill O'Reilly's offensive outburst that "the white establishment is now the minority". . . and "it's not a traditional America anymore.")

Yeah, FOX hosts spouting off racist sentiments is hardly worth even noting at this point.

Rove looked like a man caught between a rock and a hard place last night. Like he knew Shelly Adelson had some old school goons waiting out back for him after the interview.
 
2012-11-07 10:34:54 AM  
How would YOU feel knowing that the Koch Brothers were going to have your thumbs broke as soon as the cameras were turned off?
 
2012-11-07 10:40:34 AM  

Cythraul: greentea1985: It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.

I wish I could have seen that. Hopefully there are some youtube records of it.


Here ya go.
 
2012-11-07 10:59:51 AM  
I was watching it, and it was farking surreal. Megyn Kelley goes wandering down the halls at Fox with a steadicam in tow, blithering about "the last time we practiced this (!) we lost audio juuusst about here...", then gets to the math wonks room where they patiently explain how statistics work and how there is statistically zero chance that Obama loses Ohio. Then she wanders back up and Rove is sputtering like a '77 Harley with a tank of bad gas about how it's inappropriate for Fox to be calling Ohio this early ANYWAY. He's got all of his '98 numbers in a row and he's waving them around like they're a shield against truth. I really believe he was thinking "Wait...we're the goddamn media mouthpiece of the GOP -- why the hell would we be reporting this as straight news? Why are all these people not spinning like tops? OBEY YOUR MASTERS!!!", and it just wasn't working, so he was quite seriously losing it right on the air.
 
2012-11-07 11:02:41 AM  
I was at a bar last night and they had on CNN and Fox. I could tell he was getting worked up, even though I could not hear him (no sound). CNN had an image of Ohio with the votes with Romney up for a few minutes and then Obama went back up. It wasn't til I got home and heard the reason why Ohio was already called. But I saw Rove gestating angrily and then some strange scene of the anchor chick walking down the hall to a room full of computers and people. I didn't know what was going on, but I had an idea that while they were doing this Rove was talking with Romney.
 
2012-11-07 11:14:31 AM  

dahmers love zombie: I was watching it, and it was farking surreal. Megyn Kelley goes wandering down the halls at Fox with a steadicam in tow, blithering about "the last time we practiced this (!) we lost audio juuusst about here...", then gets to the math wonks room where they patiently explain how statistics work and how there is statistically zero chance that Obama loses Ohio. Then she wanders back up and Rove is sputtering like a '77 Harley with a tank of bad gas about how it's inappropriate for Fox to be calling Ohio this early ANYWAY. He's got all of his '98 numbers in a row and he's waving them around like they're a shield against truth. I really believe he was thinking "Wait...we're the goddamn media mouthpiece of the GOP -- why the hell would we be reporting this as straight news? Why are all these people not spinning like tops? OBEY YOUR MASTERS!!!", and it just wasn't working, so he was quite seriously losing it right on the air.


Like I said in another thread, the look on the guys face that was facing the camera was awesome. He had this smug look like he could barely contain himself and he wanted to say "go fark yourself, karl... you fat pud". They calmly shot him down saying they were looking at actual numbers/data and not projection BS that Karl was pulling out of the air. "Based on 2008..." blah blah BS. The second time they brought Karl back out he was doing the same then all of a sudden seemed to realize the argument they made and basically stopped yammering and said something to the effect of they could have better data than he does
 
2012-11-07 11:15:24 AM  
This weekend is going to be particularly rough, cigar-burn-wise, for the succulent boy prostitutes of Santo Domingo.
 
2012-11-07 11:17:26 AM  
It was pretty surreal to watch; he was having a meltdown and the pundits were urging the people who projected the win to reconsider it. This was somehow better than 2008 where Karl Rove predicted that we'd know who the next president would be once Ohio was called, with the host interrupting to announce that Obama won Ohio leaving Rove with a stunned look on his face. I'd suggest someone shoop Rove's head on the "It's still real to me, dammit!" guy's picture, but I'm afraid no one could tell the difference.
 
2012-11-07 11:28:58 AM  

Grungehamster: It was pretty surreal to watch; he was having a meltdown and the pundits were urging the people who projected the win to reconsider it. This was somehow better than 2008 where Karl Rove predicted that we'd know who the next president would be once Ohio was called, with the host interrupting to announce that Obama won Ohio leaving Rove with a stunned look on his face. I'd suggest someone shoop Rove's head on the "It's still real to me, dammit!" guy's picture, but I'm afraid no one could tell the difference.


Watching them (including Rove, of all people) later on last night bemoan the Obama campaign and all the money that was spent, the negativity, how they felt Romney was unfairly characterized as a person and his past, how they felt Obama was too divisive was beyond surreal
 
2012-11-07 11:29:33 AM  

dahmers love zombie: Wait...we're the goddamn media mouthpiece of the GOP -- why the hell would we be reporting this as straight news?


I don't have the clip handy, but this was nearly exactly his argument.
 
2012-11-07 11:31:35 AM  
"Do you have any idea how deep in hock I am? I'm going to get chopped up for fish bait unless I can deliver a government by January!"
 
2012-11-07 11:31:41 AM  

ThatGuyGreg: Cythraul: greentea1985: It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.

I wish I could have seen that. Hopefully there are some youtube records of it.

Here ya go.


Is this the clip related to the subby?
 
2012-11-07 11:33:35 AM  

dahmers love zombie: I was watching it, and it was farking surreal. Megyn Kelley goes wandering down the halls at Fox with a steadicam in tow, blithering about "the last time we practiced this (!) we lost audio juuusst about here...", then gets to the math wonks room where they patiently explain how statistics work and how there is statistically zero chance that Obama loses Ohio. Then she wanders back up and Rove is sputtering like a '77 Harley with a tank of bad gas about how it's inappropriate for Fox to be calling Ohio this early ANYWAY.


Precisely. While I know they willingly work for Fox News, I was embarrassed for the two statisticians who were put on air (from all appearances) unexpectedly. Simply because the "former" political advisor (and not a professional broadcaster) couldn't handle reality sinking in.
 
2012-11-07 11:33:39 AM  

blackminded: dahmers love zombie: Wait...we're the goddamn media mouthpiece of the GOP -- why the hell would we be reporting this as straight news?

I don't have the clip handy, but this was nearly exactly his argument.


In another 12 years or so, the networks will be reporting election results their own way. We'll have to find out who really won from the BBC.
 
2012-11-07 11:35:15 AM  
Karl Rove did what Karl Rove does.

On the other hand, that idiot Chris Matthews from MSNBC needs to get fired and not allowed back on TV ever. What a disgrace that man is.
 
2012-11-07 11:36:33 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Grungehamster: It was pretty surreal to watch; he was having a meltdown and the pundits were urging the people who projected the win to reconsider it. This was somehow better than 2008 where Karl Rove predicted that we'd know who the next president would be once Ohio was called, with the host interrupting to announce that Obama won Ohio leaving Rove with a stunned look on his face. I'd suggest someone shoop Rove's head on the "It's still real to me, dammit!" guy's picture, but I'm afraid no one could tell the difference.

Watching them (including Rove, of all people) later on last night bemoan the Obama campaign and all the money that was spent, the negativity, how they felt Romney was unfairly characterized as a person and his past, how they felt Obama was too divisive was beyond surreal


Yes. That part was jaw-dropping. They also pretty much threw Romney under the bus for "letting Obama define who he was".
 
2012-11-07 11:36:38 AM  

dahmers love zombie: I was watching it, and it was farking surreal. Megyn Kelley goes wandering down the halls at Fox with a steadicam in tow, blithering about "the last time we practiced this (!) we lost audio juuusst about here...", then gets to the math wonks room where they patiently explain how statistics work and how there is statistically zero chance that Obama loses Ohio. Then she wanders back up and Rove is sputtering like a '77 Harley with a tank of bad gas about how it's inappropriate for Fox to be calling Ohio this early ANYWAY. He's got all of his '98 numbers in a row and he's waving them around like they're a shield against truth. I really believe he was thinking "Wait...we're the goddamn media mouthpiece of the GOP -- why the hell would we be reporting this as straight news? Why are all these people not spinning like tops? OBEY YOUR MASTERS!!!", and it just wasn't working, so he was quite seriously losing it right on the air.



That was one of the funniest things I had ever seen. I never watch FNC, but that few mins made it worth it.
 
2012-11-07 11:36:53 AM  
Get ready for weeks of Benghazi Butthurt

Benghazi!
Benghazi!!
Benghazi!!!
 
2012-11-07 11:37:25 AM  

greentea1985: It was so amusing watching this unfold on Fox News last night.


it was. bret and megan didn't know just what to make of karl but they gamely went along with it. the number folks were less than amused.

i was chuckling.
 
2012-11-07 11:37:49 AM  
Megyn Kelly to Karl Rove: "Is this just math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?"
 
2012-11-07 11:38:24 AM  
Watched CNN and MSNBC until it was called for Obama. Switched over to Fox and watched the implosion.

BEST TELEVISON EVAR.
 
2012-11-07 11:38:33 AM  
Delicious
 
2012-11-07 11:39:37 AM  
Rove is in denial only because his super pacs lost big. Rove, it's all about the money and next time around his funding may be way off.
 
2012-11-07 11:40:15 AM  
And it was beautiful
 
2012-11-07 11:41:05 AM  
I just like the video on the link of that douchenozzle claiming whites males are the minority.

Yes, when you consider ALL non-white/non-male people to be one group, then white males are the farking minority. I would be insulted as fark by that if I were a woman, especially a white woman.

Hey 45% of women who went for Romney: you just got told you aren't the equals and partners of white males, but rather are no better than a black or an hispanic. You don't sit at their table, you sit with the rest of the country.

Now, I'm not lumping all republicans together, and obviously 45% of female voters didn't vote that way because they want to follow their husband's commands like he in turn follows god's. I don't think all the white male conservatives agree with bullshiat like that either. But I do think that your party will accept anything short of Todd Akin's comments when it comes to misogynistic bullshiat, and it might behoove the rest of you, male or female, white or black, to try to shut these farkers up and remove their influence on your party.

And Bill is one of the more sane pundits advocating for Republicans.
 
2012-11-07 11:42:35 AM  

MarshHawk: dahmers love zombie: I was watching it, and it was farking surreal. Megyn Kelley goes wandering down the halls at Fox with a steadicam in tow, blithering about "the last time we practiced this (!) we lost audio juuusst about here...", then gets to the math wonks room where they patiently explain how statistics work and how there is statistically zero chance that Obama loses Ohio. Then she wanders back up and Rove is sputtering like a '77 Harley with a tank of bad gas about how it's inappropriate for Fox to be calling Ohio this early ANYWAY.

Precisely. While I know they willingly work for Fox News, I was embarrassed for the two statisticians who were put on air (from all appearances) unexpectedly. Simply because the "former" political advisor (and not a professional broadcaster) couldn't handle reality sinking in.


Rove was just acting as surragte for the average Fox viewer who had been led to believe Romney was not just going to win, but win handily.
 
2012-11-07 11:42:45 AM  

ddam: Karl Rove did what Karl Rove does.

On the other hand, that idiot Chris Matthews from MSNBC needs to get fired and not allowed back on TV ever. What a disgrace that man is.


He mad
 
2012-11-07 11:42:57 AM  
Haha! You learned that you can only buy an election if you're not obviously pure evil! Enjoy having your kneecaps broken behind a fish-packing warehouse by the scumbags to whom you sold your soul.
 
2012-11-07 11:43:58 AM  
The best part was when she came back from the numbers guys and there's Karl... Scribbling away on a sheet of paper trying to find some way, a glimmer of hope if you will, that just maybe Romney could pull something out.

(This doesn't have anything to do with anything, but the lady on Glenn Beck said Obama's victory is God's revenge for turning our backs on Him.)
 
2012-11-07 11:44:22 AM  

Nofun: Bontesla: Someone's overusing the term, "civil war"

I don't know about that, FTFA:

Reality TV star Donald Trump railed on Twitter about a "sham" election, saying "we should have a revolution in this country."

This is what scares me. You will always have crazies, but to hear sentiments like this from prominent businessmen and "news" sources is just scary and disheartening. Not liking the outcome != sham election.


Who is this "prominent businessman" of whom you speak?
 
2012-11-07 11:44:33 AM  

John the Magnificent: Watched CNN and MSNBC until it was called for Obama. Switched over to Fox and watched the implosion.

BEST TELEVISON EVAR.


as did we - was wondering about Megyn's midnight stroll.
 
2012-11-07 11:44:38 AM  
When Rove made the comment they had given him numbers saying there was only a 900 vote difference between the two, with 20% left to be tallied. All he did was say that it was too close to call so soon. When they came back and gave him the up to date numbers he agreed with the. So what's the big deal?

This thread is as lefty biased as Rove is to the right.
 
2012-11-07 11:44:39 AM  
Oh man, I missed cranky old fascist O'Reilly's butt hurt comments, too.

On the other hand, that idiot Chris Matthews from MSNBC

The fark does Chris Matthews have to do with anything?
 
2012-11-07 11:45:48 AM  

impaler: http://www.natesilverwrong.com/



Lolz...

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2012-11-07 11:46:53 AM  
It's almost like they live in a bubble.

American Thinker

Obama is going to lose in a landslide. And Barack Obama, the media, and the polling organizations will be appropriately shocked.

American Thinker: The Thinkening

Does anyone believe that when Barack Obama loses on November 6, he will go quietly?

This election is shaping up to be a landslide loss for the president, and by the ever-present look of desperation on his face, he knows it. The nation should be preparing for how he might react when it happens -- there is nothing more dangerous than a cornered god.

In 2008, Americans wholeheartedly bought the Obama dream. It's never easy to let go of a dream, but today, people have let go of Obama the dream -- and on November 6, they will let go of Obama the man.


Town Hall: Why Mitt Romney Will Win

Dick Morris: Here comes the landslide  (bonus - he gets the Electoral Votes of several states wrong)
 
2012-11-07 11:48:12 AM  
I didn't see the shenanigans last night on Fox but to hear the descriptions of what happened, I'm thinking of the end of Trading Places with Randolph and Mortimer yelling for them to turn the machines back on.
 
2012-11-07 11:48:16 AM  
rlv.zcache.com
 
2012-11-07 11:48:17 AM  

impaler: http://www.natesilverwrong.com/

Check the whois.


Oh, that's too perfect!

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2012-11-07 11:48:37 AM  

Jake Havechek: Oh man, I missed cranky old fascist O'Reilly's butt hurt comments, too.

On the other hand, that idiot Chris Matthews from MSNBC

The fark does Chris Matthews have to do with anything?


I don't know either. Other than the fact at one point it looked like his pen had burst while chewing on it. Anyone else notice dark patches in the corners of his mouth at one point?
 
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