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2012-11-06 05:43:20 PM
EVERYONE is voting illegally today?

Oh. Subby omitted a crucial word.
 
2012-11-06 05:46:27 PM
Waiting to advertise it:
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-06 06:25:11 PM
If that's what passes for trippy these days.......
 
2012-11-06 06:40:45 PM
I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.
 
2012-11-06 06:44:44 PM
I hope it passes - if only because it will raise my property value overnight.
 
2012-11-06 07:49:06 PM

unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.


It is on Oregon's also. I also voted yes.

Even if the government makes 0 dollars and 0 cents off of the legalization of weed they will save enormous amounts by not enforcing it as an illegal drug.
 
2012-11-06 07:51:41 PM
If Colorado passes this, I see a "ski" weekend in my future!
 
2012-11-06 07:55:14 PM

FedExPope: If Colorado passes this, I see a "ski" weekend in my future!


Oh, so you are going to come and do a mountain of coke?
 
2012-11-06 07:55:58 PM
Getting stoners off their couches to vote? Fat chance dawg.
 
2012-11-06 08:09:10 PM
That link gif - it's what they did to Captain Kirk at the Tantalus Penal Colony (on Tantalus V). Tell Spock to mind meld Van Gelder, or mind geld Van Melder, or, you know, whatever.
 
2012-11-06 08:10:25 PM

SearchN: FedExPope: If Colorado passes this, I see a "ski" weekend in my future!

Oh, so you are going to come and do a mountain of coke?


i1184.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-06 08:12:45 PM
Asked pops if he voted for it in WA. Said no, but not because of what I thought it would be: he didn't vote for it because it is an initiative and he always votes no on initiatives. Oh well, I can at least respect his consistency. Now, time to blaze!
 
2012-11-06 08:18:18 PM

unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.


I talked it up around work, and at least one got registered and voted when he wouldn't have.

/dude, if you don't vote you can't biatch about the results.
 
2012-11-06 08:24:02 PM
Really, we have a pot thread, but no gay marriage thread?

/or did I miss it?
//pot smoker
 
2012-11-06 08:25:23 PM
Don't smoke, never smoked, voted to approve the medical marijuana ballot initiative here in MA.
 
2012-11-06 08:29:36 PM

Jamdug!: Getting stoners off their couches to vote? Fat chance dawg.


Ha! I voted sitting on my couch. Still had to get up to go to the mailbox to mail the ballot though. But I had the munchies and wanted some Doritos, so it was cool, man.
 
2012-11-06 08:38:35 PM
d.yimg.com

/trippy
 
2012-11-06 08:44:35 PM

enry: Don't smoke, never smoked, voted to approve the medical marijuana ballot initiative here in MA.


Same here. And to let doctors kill people (my solution to keeping medicare/caid solvent).
 
2012-11-06 08:49:16 PM

unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.


huh... that's weird. I too am in Colorado and voted for it. Small world.

intrade says it will pass.
Link
 
2012-11-06 08:53:34 PM

burninbeaver: unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.

huh... that's weird. I too am in Colorado and voted for it. Small world.

intrade says it will pass.
Link


You have no idea. Unlikely and I actually bumped into each other IRL before we realized we knew each other on fark.
 
2012-11-06 08:53:41 PM

burninbeaver: unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.

huh... that's weird. I too am in Colorado and voted for it. Small world.

intrade says it will pass.
Link


Also in CO, also voted for it.
 
2012-11-06 09:40:50 PM
Roast one with me, farkers!

/ordered a pizza, too
 
2012-11-06 09:41:36 PM

cretinbob: If that's what passes for trippy these days.......


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This
 
2012-11-06 09:45:43 PM

KrispyKritter: cretinbob: If that's what passes for trippy these days.......
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This


Come on, maannnnn. You need to chill out. Watch some election results.
 
2012-11-06 09:46:23 PM
MMJ passes in MA!
 
2012-11-06 09:48:26 PM
In WA, voted for it.
 
2012-11-06 09:57:09 PM

Zoophagous: In WA, voted for it.


Washington too. Cheers!

Best night? Obama, legalized marijuana in Washington and Colorado as well as legalized Gay Marriage in Washington.
 
2012-11-06 09:59:36 PM
CO A64 lead is slipping a bit. Let's hope the cushion maintains itself.
 
2012-11-06 10:06:29 PM
I read that as trippy animated *girl* and was understandably disappointed.

Here, you stoners... Have fun with trippy animated girls.
 
2012-11-06 10:13:04 PM

Phillip Ondiz: CO A64 lead is slipping a bit. Let's hope the cushion maintains itself.


users.content.ytmnd.com
 
2012-11-06 10:16:16 PM
Brian Williams, on air on NBC: "Man, there is a lot of weed on the ballot tonight."
 
2012-11-06 10:35:35 PM
In Colorado right now...

Votes against Amendment 64: 47.59%.
Votes for Romney: 47.59%.

Coincidence?
 
2012-11-06 10:37:40 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: In Colorado right now...

Votes against Amendment 64: 47.59%.
Votes for Romney: 47.59%.

Coincidence?


Gonna be a squeaker
 
2012-11-06 10:40:09 PM
 
2012-11-06 10:54:42 PM

Jamdug!: Getting stoners off their couches to vote? Fat chance dawg.


pfft!

Me and mr. zobear don't smoke the ganj, but we both voted yea here in CO.

/mmj is a joke - just legalize it already!
 
2012-11-06 10:58:20 PM

zobear: Jamdug!: Getting stoners off their couches to vote? Fat chance dawg.

pfft!

Me and mr. zobear don't smoke the ganj, but we both voted yea here in CO.

/mmj is a joke - just legalize it already!


Thank you!
 
2012-11-06 11:09:19 PM

cryinoutloud: KrispyKritter: cretinbob: If that's what passes for trippy these days.......
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This

Come on, maannnnn. You need to chill out. Watch some election results.


Nah, go drop some acid and lay down in the woods.
 
2012-11-06 11:33:00 PM
Amendment 64 PASSED in Colorado! Get ready to toke up f*ckers!
 
2012-11-06 11:46:12 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Amendment 64 PASSED in Colorado! Get ready to toke up f*ckers!


Unbelievable...maybe Obama decides to start his second term with ending the prohibition altogether.
 
2012-11-06 11:55:24 PM

StrangeQ: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Amendment 64 PASSED in Colorado! Get ready to toke up f*ckers!

Unbelievable...maybe Obama decides to start his second term with ending the prohibition altogether.


Now we just need to see what OR and WA are going to do..
 
2012-11-07 12:37:55 AM
Laughing my ass off now that we have legal weed here in the good ol CO. I'm going to put a sale on my vapes in honor of this momentous occasion!
 
2012-11-07 12:42:23 AM
Washington looks good. Oregon choked on the smoke of their toke.
 
2012-11-07 01:00:20 AM
Polls currently show Washington passing both gay marriage and pot. Rainbow pot leaves for everyone!
 
2012-11-07 01:18:04 AM
This shiat is buried in the Politics tab where democrats are fellating themselves and republicans are staying the fark away.

WE NEED A MAIN PAGE GREENLIGHT!!
 
2012-11-07 02:24:52 AM

germ78: Washington looks good. Oregon choked on the smoke of their toke.


I knew a lot of weed smokers who were against it. Same arguments that they used to prevent California legalizing it for recreational use

- It will harm the growers
- There will be too much regulation
- "Corporate" weed will take over
- Makes things worse for medical MJ users

No idea how accurate any of the arguments are, but I've seen several pot smoking Facebook friends arguing against it for the last month.
 
2012-11-07 02:27:06 AM
I'm not sure how the US system works, but doesn't this aren't any salesmen and/or consumers of marijuana vulnerable to arrest and prosecution by the fed?
 
2012-11-07 02:37:15 AM
Where's the 'spliffly' tag?
 
2012-11-07 02:37:54 AM
Well, I shiat the bed on that post. Deleted a few too many words.

Anyways, what I was trying to say: Even if the states approve Marijuana for sale and consumption, won't the fed just crack down on the retail markets and consumers?
 
2012-11-07 02:50:15 AM

tomcatadam: Well, I shiat the bed on that post. Deleted a few too many words.

Anyways, what I was trying to say: Even if the states approve Marijuana for sale and consumption, won't the fed just crack down on the retail markets and consumers?


Probably not the consumers, there aren't enough DEA agents to arrest the individuals. A fight is coming with the Feds over the law, but no one knows how that will play out or what they will try to do, they've been quiet about it. Individual users are usually safe.
 
2012-11-07 03:00:24 AM

tomcatadam: Well, I shiat the bed on that post. Deleted a few too many words.

Anyways, what I was trying to say: Even if the states approve Marijuana for sale and consumption, won't the fed just crack down on the retail markets and consumers?


Technically yes, they could. But California has been allowing medicinal use since 1996, and the feds haven't managed to stop that even. And now there are over a dozen other states that have also passed bills that legalized medical marijuana. I think what it boils down to is that the DEA doesn't have the resources to shut down all of the dispensaries, and they sure don't have the resources to go after everyone involved in a legal(at the state-level) business.

Of course it's going to be a while before anything goes that far, though. The ballot measures may have passed, but the Feds could threaten to withhold funding if the States go through with it. Just like when they forced all the states to adopt 21 as the new drinking age by threatening to pull the federal highway funds of any state that didn't comply.

This is an important step in the right direction, and it opens the door for similar ballots in other states to be taken more seriously. But it's going to take a lot of states approving it until the Federal Government is forced to actually discuss the issue.
 
2012-11-07 03:24:03 AM
I just hope we see federal decriminalization on Obama's second term agenda. First term he was worse than W on marijuana policy, which is shameful. Google "Barry and the Choom Gang."

I begrudgingly voted for him again, mostly because Mittens is crazy and the third party options amount to a wasted vote.

But if he doesn't do this, throw one down for the homies in his second term when he's got nothing to lose and the House (if I'm reading the results right) in Democratic control...he's a true asshole.

/mixed feelings, but overall good
//AND YES I SMOKE POT
 
2012-11-07 03:27:55 AM

tomcatadam: I'm not sure how the US system works, but doesn't this aren't any salesmen and/or consumers of marijuana vulnerable to arrest and prosecution by the fed?


I'm not aware of any drug enforcement responsiblities of the Federal Reserve, which is what "The Fed" often means in American. . .oh fark it. . . .


Sure, that's what it means, but the American system is also one of Federalism, and constitutionally, the Federal government shouldn't be able to stop a state from doing that sort of thing. What is likely, is that this will be sent to the Supreme Court, and it's possible prohibition will be found unconstitutional, just as Alchohol prohibition was.

Still: I wouldn't consider this sort of thing in the clear enough to go running toward a bong right now, but for any freedom minded individual in the USA, this is actually quite a positive thing.
 
2012-11-07 03:50:13 AM
Many times in my life I've seen ballot initiatives for legalization. Each one I voted for, knowing it didn't stand a chance. I've had plenty of discussions about the possibility of legalization. "Not in my lifetime", most of us said. Even though I was usually the biggest stoner out of everyone there, I still explained why there are so many obstacles to legalization, and that it's a long way off. "But the people will vote for it" they said. "But what about driving under the influence, doesn't there need to be an accurate test? There isn't one yet." I said. And then "But what about drug testing in the workplace? Won't that be a clusterfark?". On and on I came up with rational reasons why it just would be too hard to do. But then the people voted.

Ultimately I realized that everything comes from the people first. If we as a people say it is, then it is. We adjust to the rest. We'll find solutions, like we always do. Not optimal, but satisfactory. Life's all about compromise. And wearing a helmet. I love this country, for better or worse.
 
2012-11-07 03:52:04 AM

unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.


This crow is the best I've ever had. You like? ;)

/doubted, voted yes
//still in shock
///woot?
 
2012-11-07 04:39:10 AM
So how does legalization work in either Colorado or Washington?

Can I grow my own? I assume this would be yes.
Can I buy at the store? Which stores are carrying it?
Is it regulated like a prescription medicine? Is it available OTC?
Is it available at gas stations and convenience stores?
What happens to Joe Drug Dealer on the corner? Does he stay in business? Is he still the main source for marijuana?

I can't imagine there will be any large-scale manufacturers like RJR coming in to start mass producing this stuff. There's still the federal problem there. So how will MJ be made available now?
 
2012-11-07 04:47:46 AM
The initiative had to win a court battle to get on the ballot here in AR. I expected it would fail, which it did, but I was amazed at how much support there was for it. The initiative failed 51% to 49%.

/head asplode
 
2012-11-07 04:59:20 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So how does legalization work in either Colorado or Washington?

Can I grow my own? I assume this would be yes.
Can I buy at the store? Which stores are carrying it?
Is it regulated like a prescription medicine? Is it available OTC?
Is it available at gas stations and convenience stores?
What happens to Joe Drug Dealer on the corner? Does he stay in business? Is he still the main source for marijuana?

I can't imagine there will be any large-scale manufacturers like RJR coming in to start mass producing this stuff. There's still the federal problem there. So how will MJ be made available now?


I would imagine the short term, if these measures actually stick, is they stop arresting people for it while they work out the logistics and people will continue to get it the same way they always have. Then once they have established distribution methods they switch over to distribution rules similar to alcohol. You can still grow your own, but you need a license to sell to others.
 
2012-11-07 05:34:45 AM
What I wonders is how long till the 'don't toke and drive' public safety ads start?
 
2012-11-07 08:11:59 AM
If Obama really wants to increase revenue to the US Treasury and not just punish a certain demographic, he'd legalize weed and tax it like tobacco.
 
2012-11-07 08:22:49 AM
oregon didn't pass and washington did? wtf? vancouvers gonna be boomin.
 
2012-11-07 02:01:46 PM

germ78: Washington looks good. Oregon choked on the smoke of their toke.


Would you say that they volcanoed?

Or should that be a Mount Hood reference?
 
2012-11-07 06:59:11 PM

glassgnome: Laughing my ass off now that we have legal weed here in the good ol CO. I'm going to put a sale on my vapes in honor of this momentous occasion!


WHAR PHOTOS, WHAR?

/seriously
//interested
 
2012-11-07 07:49:55 PM

gobstopping: tomcatadam: I'm not sure how the US system works, but doesn't this aren't any salesmen and/or consumers of marijuana vulnerable to arrest and prosecution by the fed?

I'm not aware of any drug enforcement responsiblities of the Federal Reserve, which is what "The Fed" often means in American. . .oh fark it. . . .


Sure, that's what it means, but the American system is also one of Federalism, and constitutionally, the Federal government shouldn't be able to stop a state from doing that sort of thing. What is likely, is that this will be sent to the Supreme Court, and it's possible prohibition will be found unconstitutional, just as Alchohol prohibition was.

Still: I wouldn't consider this sort of thing in the clear enough to go running toward a bong right now, but for any freedom minded individual in the USA, this is actually quite a positive thing.


Two minor notes:

a) Prohibition on a national level (for alcohol) was actually the result of a Constitutional amendment promoted by what can be described as a proto-dominionist movement (the same groups pushing Prohibition were also pushing for a DOMA (of almost identical wording to anti-LGBT DOMAs nowadays) targeting polygamist Mormons and pushing for a "Christian Nation Amendment" officially declaring Protestant Christianity the established state religion; Catholics and other "Liturgical Traditionalist" Christian groups were among the biggest fighters against this as both their religion AND an essential portion of their liturgical rituals were being targeted).

b) Prohibition, alas, has never been ruled unconstitutional. Local option (including frank prohibition of alcohol) is still alive and well, and there are several states throughout the Southeast (including Kentucky, Arkansas, and Texas) in which Prohibition never legally ended in fully half the counties in those states. (Mississippi actually had statewide prohibition still in effect until 1966 when it was overturned in a statewide vote.)

To my knowledge, there has never been any successful legal challenge to local option (including frank prohibition in dry counties, in Mississippi before 1966, or on First Nations reserves that have prohibited alcohol) on a federal level, and even the attempts to challenge the constitutionality of the 18th Amendment when it was in effect were rejected by the Supreme Court (and later court precedences during Prohibition pretty much set up the legal framework for some of the more blatant violations of rights in the name of the War On Some Drugs including warrantless searches and wiretaps as well as restrictions on medicinal use of alcohol remarkably similar to Federal restrictions on medicinal use of marijuana and THC).

The reason local option has never been challenged is that there may not be anyone with a legal standing to do so, and (to guarantee passage in pro-Prohibition states) the 21st Amendment explicitly included local option so that states and counties who wished to continue prohibition could do so; just about every legal challenge to local option has fallen flat because of this (including First Amendment arguments raised by people using alcohol in liturgical services and by warehousers advertising alcohol prices; Fourteenth Amendment arguments; and attempts under the Commerce Clause to overturn local option). At most, any challenges have simply led to regulations being required to be followed across a state or equally to in-state and out-of-state sellers). This is one of those issues where it would probably literally take a Constitutional amendment to fix (removing local option as an option).

So even if federal-level legalisation happens...if marijuana sales were to come under the purview of the state ATF (similar to what just passed in Colorado and Washington--basically their licensing department will also license stores able to legally sell Purple Kush bud in addition to Budweiser) there will still be the ability to locally ban the sale in those states that still have local option.

/frankly would be all over a Constitutional amendment removing local option (and thus the last legal vestiges of Prohibition)
//expects I will be dead or at least very old before MJ becomes legal in KY--our laws were so strict at one point that POSSESSING HEMP ROPE WAS TECHNICALLY A FELONY (no, they did NOT specify WHICH species of Cannabis but covered all species--this actually DID manage to get overturned)
///Colorado, however, just became a VERY attractive tourist destination despite Colorado Springs' little dominionist problem
 
2012-11-08 12:28:01 PM
So, we won?
 
2012-11-08 01:10:02 PM

Hector Remarkable: So, we won?


Wow man, it's been days!

What were you on?
 
2012-11-08 02:57:37 PM

Leeds: Hector Remarkable: So, we won?

Wow man, it's been days!

What were you on?


So......we won?
 
2012-11-08 08:41:39 PM

joonyer: unlikely: I'm in Colorado, we have it on the ballot here.

I voted yes, let's legalize.

I doubt it will pass.

This crow is the best I've ever had. You like? ;)

/doubted, voted yes
//still in shock
///woot?


Cool to have been wrong. :-)
 
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