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(Daily Kos)   Chrysler's final response to Romney: All US workers have the entire day off today to go out and vote   (dailykos.com) divider line 41
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2012-11-06 11:52:47 AM  
10 votes:
Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.
2012-11-06 11:58:53 AM  
9 votes:

The news isn't that Chrysler employees have the day off for election day. The news is so many Americans do not.

- Will McAvoy (@WillMcAvoyACN) November 6, 2012
2012-11-06 12:40:51 PM  
4 votes:
seriously, lets make sat-sun-mon-election tues the 'voting days' with tuesday being a national holiday to celebrate our voting.

I think the only people who will come out against it are those afraid of voter turnout. usually the derpiest of the derp.
2012-11-06 11:35:19 AM  
3 votes:
That sound you heard was Romney getting run over by a Ram dually with a lift kit and fog horns.
rka
2012-11-06 01:50:12 PM  
2 votes:

FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.


I'd be more inclined to just make voting easier across the board.

It's super easy here in CO. No need for a holiday at all. Mail in, early vote, take your pick. I voted from my couch while watching San Diego smack Kansas City around last Thursday.

This is a state by state election law issue, not a national problem and a national holiday wouldn't help anything.

Lobby for easier voting in your state.
2012-11-06 01:24:23 PM  
2 votes:
Even with my idea of absentee ballot option for everyone, a national voting holiday should be done anyway and it should confer every bit as much of the patriotism as July fourth does, if not more so. The ability to vote helps maintain the ability to even have an Independence Day celebration. Scheduling for essential personnel should be half days so they have plenty of time to get out to vote.

The other day on the radio they were flaming on the idea of mentally disabled people voting. The instance they cited had a very small proportion of people voting from the mental hospital they were in. It was less than a tenth of the patients.

It got me thinking, if we qualify people's ability to vote based on if they're currently housed in a mental institution, should we not also disqualify people who can't be bothered to learn anything about their candidates and simply vote straight ticket how they're told to by an authority figure in their life or based on preconceived notions based on how their parents voted? There's also varying degrees of mental illness, even within mental hospitals. Just because they're in a mental institution does not mean they lack reasoning skills, it means that they have a mental illness which impedes their day to day functioning. 

I have less of a problem disallowing felons to vote than I do assuming mentally ill people are incapable of reasoning to vote, particularly given no or low-information voters still being allowed to vote.
2012-11-06 01:10:51 PM  
2 votes:
Why not make absentee ballot without an "excuse" an option nationally? Why do you have to be out of the county if you want to vote absentee? Doing absentee as an option for everyone will ensure that people don't have to stand in long lines in the cold and can sit down to vote when it's convenient for them to do so. Physical drop off of ballot or mailing in the ballot should both be acceptable means to vote.
2012-11-06 12:48:24 PM  
2 votes:
If you made election day a holiday, it would actually reduce turn-out because people would make other plans altogether. Get your poll lines up to under 2 hours and make it law that people need 3 hours off from work (if necessary) while pulls are open. If polls close at 7PM and you work until 5PM, you get to leave at 4PM as an example. If the polls close at 8PM, you leave at your scheduled time.
2012-11-06 12:27:51 PM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: oh snap!


Came to say this.

And yeah, why isn't voting day a holiday. Or why don't they have polling places at work?
2012-11-06 12:27:01 PM  
2 votes:

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Why is this only Chrysler workers?


Because they can't give days off to people that don't work for them?
2012-11-06 12:26:29 PM  
2 votes:

FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.


I'm in. Move Veterans Day to the Monday prior to Election Day, give a four-day weekend to everyone. shiat-can stupid Columbus day.
2012-11-06 12:09:32 PM  
2 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: As opposed to the verified first, middle, and last names we use here on Fark.


What kind of a name is You-n? Comanche Indian?
2012-11-06 12:03:47 PM  
2 votes:

dramboxf: A tweet from a fictional character?

Okaaaaaaaaay...


As opposed to the verified first, middle, and last names we use here on Fark.
2012-11-06 11:38:03 AM  
2 votes:
Chrysler CEO isn't American - WHY ARE FOREIGNERS TAMPERING WITH OUR ELECTIONS?!?!?!
2012-11-06 02:31:20 PM  
1 votes:
We've had early voting here for a freaking month, and I got 17 notices in the mail to apply for an absentee ballot (which I wouldn't have bothered with if I'd known I could go in anytime and vote). If someone in this town doesn't vote, they have no excuse. It's not even a big town--almost no one lives more than 10 miles away from a polling place. And the bus stops there.
2012-11-06 02:16:39 PM  
1 votes:
keylock71 Heh... Cool. Nice little "fark you" to Romney, too.

Huh? His dad was head of the company that merged into Chrysler long before the Czar gave it to the Italians, but keep farking that chicken
Link

/Born Under The Pentastar
//Only the Lutherans got promotions in Herr Chrysler's Operation...(yes, pre-Mercedes)
2012-11-06 01:35:40 PM  
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Wayne 985: Nadie_AZ: Angry Buddha: FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.

I'm in. Move Veterans Day to the Monday prior to Election Day, give a four-day weekend to everyone. shiat-can stupid Columbus day.

I agree with getting rid of Columbus' day. Why do we have elections on Tuesday? Why not move it to a Monday or a Friday?

Give people a three-day weekend and they'll use it for vacation, not to vote.

Probably. Stick with the Tuesday after the first Monday in November rule but make it a national holiday.


I agree. Tues, Wed, and Thurs are safe bets. But it needs to be a holiday.
2012-11-06 01:35:18 PM  
1 votes:

Angry Buddha: FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.

I'm in. Move Veterans Day to the Monday prior to Election Day, give a four-day weekend to everyone. shiat-can stupid Columbus day.


THIS
2012-11-06 01:34:22 PM  
1 votes:

KwameKilstrawberry: Pretty sure all UAW employees are off today, as it has been the tradition for years. My drive to the House of GM was remarkably smooth this morning and Lot C is empty.


The UAW negotiated it probably more than a decade ago and it actually covers all employees of the Big Three in Michigan, not just UAW members. Kos makes it sound like it was just something they did this year to get the vote out against Romney -- that's not the case.
2012-11-06 01:27:04 PM  
1 votes:

Karac: Congratulations unions. Obama just cost you a days wages.


You've never been in a union have you? If the boss says "take the day off", you're getting paid for it.
2012-11-06 01:21:02 PM  
1 votes:

Beeblebrox: Lost Thought 00: I don't like the idea of a national holiday for voting. Too many holes people can fall into. Instead, voting should be open for an entire week or longer, so people can vote at their leisure

Well, we do have absentee voting and early voting here in Boise going on for a couple of weeks now. Today is only the deadline to vote. I voted a week and a half ago.


In PA, and several other places, we don't have at-will absentee voting. You have to show cause for needing an absentee ballot, and do so over a month in advance of the election.
2012-11-06 01:20:25 PM  
1 votes:

r1chard3: FlashHarry: oh snap!

Came to say this.

And yeah, why isn't voting day a holiday. Or why don't they have polling places at work?


In Canada, your employer must ensure that you have at least 3 hours free to get to the polling station and vote (though this takes into account when the polling stations are open.....ie if you work 9am to 5pm and the polling station is open until 7pm, the boss has to let you go at 4pm....if the station is open until 8pm, then the boss don't have to let you go).

Of course in the system you have down there, that would barely be enough time, it would seem. I couldn't imagine taking more than 20 minutes to vote (and that includes walking to the polling station)
2012-11-06 01:14:51 PM  
1 votes:
Romney has an answer to this. He just has to give all the American Employees of Bain Capital's acquired companies the day off.

.....oh.
2012-11-06 01:05:47 PM  
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Tue


Here, let me google that for you:

By federal law since 1792, the U.S. Congress permitted the states to conduct their presidential elections (or otherwise to choose their electors) any time in a 34-day period[1] before the first Wednesday of December, which was the day set for the meeting of the electors of the U.S. president and vice-president (the Electoral College), in their respective states.[2] An election date in November was seen as useful because the harvest would have been completed (important in an agrarian society) and the winter-like storms would not yet have begun in earnest (a plus in the days before paved roads and snowplows). However, in this arrangement the states that voted later could be influenced by a candidate's victories in the states that voted earlier, a problem later exacerbated by improved communications via train and telegraph. In close elections, the states that voted last might well determine the outcome.[3]

A uniform date for choosing presidential electors was instituted by the Congress in 1845.[4] Many theories have been advanced as to why the Congress settled on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.[5] The actual reasons, as shown in records of Congressional debate on the bill in December 1844, were fairly prosaic. The bill initially set the national day for choosing presidential electors on "the first Tuesday in November," in years divisible by four (1848, 1852, etc.). But it was pointed out that in some years the period between the first Tuesday in November and the first Wednesday in December (when the electors met in their state capitals to vote) would be more than 34 days, in violation of the existing Electoral College law. So, the bill was amended to move the national date for choosing presidential electors forward to the Tuesday after the first Monday in November, a date scheme already used in the state of New York.[6]

In 1845, the United States was largely an agrarian society. Farmers often needed a full day to travel by horse-drawn vehicles to the county seat to vote. Tuesday was established as election day because it did not interfere with the Biblical Sabbath or with market day, which was on Wednesday in many towns.[7]
2012-11-06 12:57:01 PM  
1 votes:
Now THAT is how you truly get your workers to vote...

Koch brothers, take some notes.
2012-11-06 12:49:32 PM  
1 votes:
As was noted in the comments there, the union has it in their contract to have election days off. Have since 1999.

But I do enjoy believing that the workers will actually take the time to vote, rather than just playing the day long drinking game.
2012-11-06 12:48:50 PM  
1 votes:

Snarfangel: FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.

We have vote-by-mail in Oregon. It's only fair that we get two weeks off.


So do we. So .... yes.
2012-11-06 12:46:17 PM  
1 votes:

SuperT: seriously, lets make sat-sun-mon-election tues the 'voting days' with tuesday being a national holiday to celebrate our voting.

I think the only people who will come out against it are those afraid of voter turnout. usually the derpiest of the derp.


The same people who claim that only the unemployed and welfare cases vote DNC are against a holiday for voting. Something doesn't make sense here.
2012-11-06 12:44:13 PM  
1 votes:
Heh... Cool. Nice little "fark you" to Romney, too.
2012-11-06 12:35:07 PM  
1 votes:

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Why is this only Chrysler workers?


Because in our Representative Democracy, in which we repeatedly say voting is so important, it's not a National Holiday.

Imagine how much quicker this would be over if the public didn't have to work today (or more than 4 hours, in the case of Emergency Services, or fuel stations, et al.)
2012-11-06 12:34:35 PM  
1 votes:

Angry Buddha: FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.

I'm in. Move Veterans Day to the Monday prior to Election Day, give a four-day weekend to everyone. shiat-can stupid Columbus day.


I agree with getting rid of Columbus' day. Why do we have elections on Tuesday? Why not move it to a Monday or a Friday?
2012-11-06 12:31:52 PM  
1 votes:

r1chard3: FlashHarry: oh snap!

Came to say this.

And yeah, why isn't voting day a holiday. Or why don't they have polling places at work?


I think the LAST place you want a polling place is at work. Especially if you work for someone like the Koch Bros or Wal-Mart.
2012-11-06 12:31:19 PM  
1 votes:

r1chard3: FlashHarry: oh snap!

Came to say this.

And yeah, why isn't voting day a holiday. Or why don't they have polling places at work?


I work in a morgue in Chicago, so I'm getting a kick...
2012-11-06 12:22:56 PM  
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: t.


You either get your line-ups less than a couple of hours across the entire State or make it a holiday. Canadian law requires employees to have 3 hours off to vote and no poll in Canada takes more than an hour to vote in.
2012-11-06 12:20:50 PM  
1 votes:
In an update, Mitt Romney now claims that giving all Chrysler employees Election Day off was originally his idea.
2012-11-06 12:20:36 PM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: vartian: Dusk-You-n-Me: dramboxf: A tweet from a fictional character?

Okaaaaaaaaay...

As opposed to the verified first, middle, and last names we use here on Fark.

Point of order - my login is my last name.

Is your last name Upastorm?


You and I may agree on nothing, but that's funny.

i.qkme.me
2012-11-06 12:16:55 PM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: What kind of a name is You-n? Comanche Indian?


It's native ameriCAN not native ameriCANT
2012-11-06 11:59:20 AM  
1 votes:

FloydA: Good for them. Voting day should be a national holiday.


This.
2012-11-06 11:38:50 AM  
1 votes:
oh snap!
2012-11-06 11:37:06 AM  
1 votes:
WTG, Chrysler!
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-06 11:36:15 AM  
1 votes:
That is cool!
 
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