Jim_Callahan: Marine1: You know what almost always works?

Paper ballots going into a scantron machine.

But OMG COMPUTORZ.

Um... scantrons fail as often or more often than most forms of electronic voting. Punch-card readers fail significantly more often than either. Also, a scantron reader is a computer, numbnuts.

These are, in fact, one of the reasons that we've been switching to computerized ballots, along with irregularities in the procedure being easier to identify and track and there being a better, albeit less literal, paper trail (stick some extra paper ballots in the box? No one will ever know. Alter the numbers in a machine? "File last edited on:"...).

Basically, while you're entitled to your own (moronic luddite) opinion, you don't get your own facts. fark off.

You first. It's quite easy to know if paper ballots have been added or removed if they're all serialized, and if the machine that anlyses the results (two people pulling the ballots out of the box, agreeing on what their marking is and adding 1 to a number) fails, we have many others ready to take their place.

Our federal elections use pencil marks on paper and the only reason the results take hours is because we have to respect the electoral process in other time zones. There's no reason why all of Canada can routinely and easily get a straight answer to a simple question and a single US state cannot.