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2012-11-06 10:12:03 AM  
She has my vote.
 
2012-11-06 10:14:36 AM  
Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.
 
2012-11-06 10:16:08 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.


We've been elected criminals for years you buffoon!
 
2012-11-06 10:16:11 AM  
Who?
 
2012-11-06 10:16:46 AM  

FarkedOver: Jim_Callahan: Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.

We've been elected electing criminals for years you buffoon!


/ftfm
 
2012-11-06 10:16:55 AM  
Whoo man..have the Green Party and the Paultards in one event. Derpcon 2016.
 
2012-11-06 10:17:00 AM  
From the video: "A Green President means an end to unemployment, to foreclosures, to student debt, to climate change, and an end to corporate rule."

So, promising the impossible isn't "pandering irresponsible bullsh*t passing itself off as campaigning"? Good to know, Jill.
 
2012-11-06 10:17:00 AM  
http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.
 
2012-11-06 10:17:31 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.


Yeah, the lack of a viable third party option is a real issue. But she seems more interested in making some sort of reality TV spectacle of herself.
 
2012-11-06 10:18:54 AM  
Anybody who suddenly snaps one day that they should vote for Jill Stein wouldn't have heard of Jill Stein in the first place.
 
2012-11-06 10:19:29 AM  

Br34ch: http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.


Yeah, I matched up with her a few points more than Obama. If I didn't live in a swing state, I'd consider voting for her. Her recent antics, however, have put me off.
 
2012-11-06 10:19:39 AM  
Great ad, especially where you can hear all 6 of her supporters in outer space.
 
2012-11-06 10:19:44 AM  

rcantley: But she seems more interested in making some sort of reality TV spectacle of herself.


That's because she's loaded up with bull tranquilizers.
 
2012-11-06 10:20:11 AM  
I interviewed Jill Stein once.
She was nice, and LOVED to talk. She gave me a seven minute answer to one question.

What kept distracting me, though, was her assistant -- an early 20s hippy chick who had arm pit hair sticking literally four inches out.

Gross.
 
2012-11-06 10:24:48 AM  

Teufelaffe: From the video: "A Green President means an end to unemployment, to foreclosures, to student debt, to climate change, and an end to corporate rule."

So, promising the impossible isn't "pandering irresponsible bullsh*t passing itself off as campaigning"? Good to know, Jill.


You beat me to the transcript -- and that really is the full policy content of the ad.

There's nothing in the eleven seconds of content in that sixty-second ad that isn't pandering bullsh*t. While I'm not saying I disagree with her actual policies, I would be horrified if that ad changed anyone's vote.
 
2012-11-06 10:25:31 AM  
Fark is like the rest of America: Complain about the system, then perpetuate it by voting for the shiniest of two turds.
 
2012-11-06 10:25:38 AM  

rcantley: Yeah, the lack of a viable third party option is a real issue. But she seems more interested in making some sort of reality TV spectacle of herself.


In all fairness, the Green Party is actually a viable third party as a group. However, one of the reasons they're viable is that they're pretty practical and well-grounded, and since they realize that they're a minority party they tend to focus on state and local positions.

They don't really focus a lot of resources on races they have no chance of winning, meaning that in a lot of districts their congressional candidates are just random dudes willing to take the long shot on their own dime, and their presidential candidate is usually someone just baaarely this side of sane to whom they've given the nomination primarily to get them to shut the fark up.

If there's ever an actual shot at winning a presidential election or tilting the vote, you'll likely see something closer to serious candidates. As this election isn't even close to a horse-race, though, Mz. Stein is not one of those candidates. She's less Nader and more William Jennings Bryan.
 
2012-11-06 10:26:56 AM  
She wasn't even on the ballot in Missouri, well, mine at least.

Aside from a fark-you-guys pick of an Libertarian (I know, I shouldn't encourage them) I've been forced by recent asshattery to firewall the decline of the nation by voting (D) pretty much down the line until I get under the state-wide office level, of which there were none today.
 
2012-11-06 10:27:20 AM  
I like Stein... I voted for her when she ran for Governor here in MA.

I don't support her run for President, though. Like most third parties, the Greens need to build up local infrastructure and put their policies into practice at the local level before they think about the presidency.

Sorry, Jill, Obama got my vote this morning.
 
2012-11-06 10:27:48 AM  

Br34ch: http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.


92% Obama. Jill Stein is 2 points higher, but I'll take the 92% that might win over the 94% that will lose.
 
2012-11-06 10:30:17 AM  
I voted for her. I live in Texas, so it doesn't really make a shiat of difference one way or the other.
 
2012-11-06 10:30:37 AM  

Br34ch: http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.


That's the reason she got my vote, not this commercial.. which I find kind of weirdly hilarious. I don't think she's going to win, but I agree with her ideas more than any other candidate, so I voted for her and went Democratic down ticket. Of course, I'm the kind of person who admires a candidate that is willing to get arrested to get into a debate they should have been allowed in to begin with (which puts her well above the last Green Party candidate who got arrested for picking a fight with the cops, just because).
 
2012-11-06 10:33:44 AM  
I voted for her today because I am disgusted with the major parties and I found myself more in alignment with what Jill Stein was saying than Gary Johnson (though, to be fair, I like him a lot better than the major party candidates as well!)

Her antics in this election notwithstanding, she's a quite intelligent woman whose rhetoric is different from the other politicians in the race. I agree with a lot of her policies and think she'd do a better job of preserving civil liberties than Obama.

And since I live in Illinois and my vote doesn't matter anyhow, better to vote my conscience than worry about the lesser of two evils!
 
2012-11-06 10:35:02 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Br34ch: http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.

92% Obama. Jill Stein is 2 points higher, but I'll take the 92% that might win over the 94% that will lose.


It's always nice to see people throw away their convictions so they can "pick the winner".
 
2012-11-06 10:36:49 AM  
I would have voted for her if I did not live in Ohio. I thought long and hard about it. The deciding factor was the fear of a Romney presidency.

Yay for the two party system! I voted for the lesser of two evils rather than the best person.
 
2012-11-06 10:38:30 AM  

FarkedOver: Jim_Callahan: Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.

We've been elected criminals for years you buffoon!


But I demand criminals smart enough not to get caught!
 
2012-11-06 10:46:37 AM  

Jim_Callahan: In all fairness, the Green Party is actually a viable third party as a group. However, one of the reasons they're viable is that they're pretty practical and well-grounded, and since they realize that they're a minority party they tend to focus on state and local positions.


shiat, if that were true, the Greens might actually be relevant. But that's not what I've seen from the Greens. There is fertile ground for the party in the upper Midwest, but the only visibility they have is Stein getting arrested outside of the debates.

They need a ground game.
 
2012-11-06 10:46:56 AM  

bluelancer03:
It's always nice to see people throw away their convictions so they can "pick the winner".


There are two components of a good political office-holder:

(1) A good set of goals

(2) The understanding of practical policy and basic competence to achieve those goals.

If you are seriously suggesting that we should all go with the first point and completely ignore the second, I'd like to remind everyone that the presidential candidate advocating the most laudable set of goals in 2000 and 2004 actually won the presidency, and ask y'all how that worked out for us.

//Anyone who thinks that Stein actually fully understands even her own policy positions clearly has never heard her speak or read more than the bullet points on her website. She makes Romney look like a foreign policy specialist.
 
2012-11-06 10:47:03 AM  
My takeaway: "Vote for the Green Party. Just like this suicidal middle aged white guy. Or token black guy. Or the mental patient. Or the guy in your neighborhood that talks to cats. Our candidate hears voices."
 
2012-11-06 10:48:03 AM  
Go get yourself arrested, Jill, and come back when your party is ready to move beyond publicity stunts to make a difference in this country.
 
2012-11-06 10:49:06 AM  

bluelancer03: thurstonxhowell: Br34ch: http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.

92% Obama. Jill Stein is 2 points higher, but I'll take the 92% that might win over the 94% that will lose.

It's always nice to see people throw away their convictions so they can "pick the winner".


2% of my "convictions", as defined by a short survey. Are your convictions so easy to pin down that a survey with 24 questions can nail them down perfectly? If so, remember that mom left you mittens pinned to your coat so your hands don't get cold.
 
2012-11-06 10:49:08 AM  
I hope she runs in 2016. If she does, she has my vote.
 
2012-11-06 10:49:27 AM  
I was considering voting for her, but after seeing that commercial, I'm voting for Obama.

/I'm embarrassed about how true that is.
 
2012-11-06 10:51:36 AM  
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2012-11-06 10:52:13 AM  

Jubeebee: shiat, if that were true, the Greens might actually be relevant. But that's not what I've seen from the Greens. There is fertile ground for the party in the upper Midwest, but the only visibility they have is Stein getting arrested outside of the debates.

They need a ground game.


They've got people at the more local levels that are considered good enough that they're running uncontested as incumbents, and they've got some candidates considered viable contenders for the state legislature. In my district, in Texas, so not exactly the libbiest district that ever libbed a lib. 

They're just not really a national party yet, and are realistic enough not to really try to be, apart from the occasional nutter like Stein.
 
2012-11-06 11:04:22 AM  

Snarfangel: FarkedOver: Jim_Callahan: Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.

We've been elected criminals for years you buffoon!

But I demand criminals smart enough not to get caught!


George W. Bush was arrested for Driving while intoxicated, yet we voted him in. Obama has admitted to using cocaine. Bill Clinton was impeached. Let's face it, we elect criminals regardless if they get caught or not haha.
 
2012-11-06 11:06:05 AM  
I was on board with Jill Stein at the start, because at first, she was the best option to get the Greens some national exposure. She was media savvy, smart, actually answered questions and didn't do crazy sh*t like Roseanne would've done, had she been nominated. (Yes, the Greens actually considered a candidate worse than Cynthia McKinney and had Roseanne in their primary.)

Then Stein got arrested at a protest. Okay, some civil disobedience, I like that in a candidate. Let's shake some sh*t up a little. Then she did it again, and then a third time. Really? Are we running for office or trying to save the whales? Priorities, please.

I know statistically Stein won't win, but she is the face and voice of the party while being candidate. She's the only Green anybody has even heard of this election. This is about getting some people interested and deciding to check out their local Green Party branch. Getting arrested repeatedly just tells people, "Oh, never mind, the Greens are just as non-serious about getting on the ballot and actually governing as they always were. Guess I'll vote Democratic as usual."

Meanwhile, the Greens couldn't even muster the 2,500 signatures needed to even get Stein on the ballot in Nebraska. You could do that in a few weeks by canvassing the Univ. Nebraska at Omaha campus and the Old Market. Pathetic. This state deserves to be ruled by Republicans, if liberals can't even be bothered to get 2,500 signatures together.
 
2012-11-06 11:11:01 AM  

Teufelaffe: From the video: "A Green President means an end to unemployment, to foreclosures, to student debt, to climate change, and an end to corporate rule."

So, promising the impossible isn't "pandering irresponsible bullsh*t passing itself off as campaigning"? Good to know, Jill.


They're going to end the war and massively scale back the military, resulting in tens of thousands of soldiers looking for honest work (in addition to the current unemployed folk). I really want to see the official plan for how they pull that one out of their ass.

/I'm guessing some kind of massive FDR type CCC effort at which point all we're doing is just contracting some areas of the federal government to massively expand it in other areas so meh
 
2012-11-06 11:13:16 AM  

ha-ha-guy: They're going to end the war and massively scale back the military, resulting in tens of thousands of soldiers looking for honest work (in addition to the current unemployed folk). I really want to see the official plan for how they pull that one out of their ass.


The military is not supposed to be a jobs program (even though the two-party system uses it that way).
 
2012-11-06 11:14:42 AM  

Gulper Eel: ha-ha-guy: They're going to end the war and massively scale back the military, resulting in tens of thousands of soldiers looking for honest work (in addition to the current unemployed folk). I really want to see the official plan for how they pull that one out of their ass.

The military is not supposed to be a jobs program (even though the two-party system uses it that way).


That's not the point, the point is I'm highly skeptical any executive branch created jobs program could end the current unemployment issue, let alone one created by an executive who was busy adding to the unemployed pool via other policies.
 
2012-11-06 11:20:28 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Teufelaffe: From the video: "A Green President means an end to unemployment, to foreclosures, to student debt, to climate change, and an end to corporate rule."

So, promising the impossible isn't "pandering irresponsible bullsh*t passing itself off as campaigning"? Good to know, Jill.

They're going to end the war and massively scale back the military, resulting in tens of thousands of soldiers looking for honest work (in addition to the current unemployed folk). I really want to see the official plan for how they pull that one out of their ass.

/I'm guessing some kind of massive FDR type CCC effort at which point all we're doing is just contracting some areas of the federal government to massively expand it in other areas so meh


At least the Greens aren't pretending they're going to shrink government.
 
2012-11-06 11:29:29 AM  
I voted for Jill Stein this morning. Now I want to know why she copied the J.G. Wentworth shout-out commercial.
 
2012-11-06 11:38:32 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Teufelaffe: From the video: "A Green President means an end to unemployment, to foreclosures, to student debt, to climate change, and an end to corporate rule."

So, promising the impossible isn't "pandering irresponsible bullsh*t passing itself off as campaigning"? Good to know, Jill.

They're going to end the war and massively scale back the military, resulting in tens of thousands of soldiers looking for honest work (in addition to the current unemployed folk). I really want to see the official plan for how they pull that one out of their ass.

/I'm guessing some kind of massive FDR type CCC effort at which point all we're doing is just contracting some areas of the federal government to massively expand it in other areas so meh


Lets say you're exactly right. At least it would mean an investment expansion in things we would benefit from (infrastructure, etc) rather than using the same money to keep blowing things up.
 
2012-11-06 11:50:21 AM  

FarkedOver: FarkedOver: Jim_Callahan: Because when I want to know about responsible politics, I go to the person with so much contempt or ignorance of the law that she managed, while a presidential candidate, to get arrested and charged at a protest where every other protester was staying within the confines of the law and wasn't bothered.

Truly, that's the kind of competence and respect for our legal institutions that I want to see in our nation's commander in chief.

We've been elected electing criminals for years you buffoon!

/ftfm


FWIW: the Boobies worked as a caption contest, when read in the voice of a bloated politihog
 
2012-11-06 01:22:35 PM  
Johnson/Stein 2016

I'd go for that.
 
2012-11-06 01:35:54 PM  

Br34ch: http://www.isidewith.com/

Find out who you side with. Most Obama-supporters, unbeknownst to themselves, actually side more with Jill Stein.


This is how I first came to realize I supported Jill Stein. But opinions are like assholes and I don't go abut sharing mine on this topic very frequently.

Jill is a pretty awesome lady

/sexy for an older broad too
 
2012-11-06 02:42:19 PM  
She's no Nader.

Her Youtube video has less than 70,000 views.

I think it's a little too late.
 
2012-11-06 03:36:17 PM  

GoodyearPimp: My takeaway: "Vote for the Green Party. Just like this suicidal middle aged white guy. Or token black guy. Or the mental patient. Or the guy in your neighborhood that talks to cats.


Hey, no fair. I talk to kittehs and I'm for Obama.
 
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