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2012-11-06 03:32:47 PM  
Dammit, wife wants to go to a show tonight, gets out at 9PM. Will have to smuggle smart phone in.

At least this is done.

gromit.orf5.com
 
2012-11-06 03:32:52 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: dforkus: Intrade is starting to break in Romney's direction. This is the start of a trend.

Romney's got this.

Mitt Romney
30.3%
Today's Change: -2.6

That's a funny-looking trend.


Mittmentum is capable of moving in multiple directions at once, which confuses data until it is unskewed.
 
2012-11-06 03:32:57 PM  

scubamage:
Seriously - when is the last time you have had to calibrate a touchscreen? When we were using them in medical environments in 2000 we didn't need to calibrate them - you ran them at their normal resolution and they "just worked." The last touchscreen I've actually had to calibrate was back in the late 90's, and that was on a windows CE phone.

And based on his troubleshooting "miscalibration" doesn't seem to be correct. If it was, when he pressed on the Jill Stein button, it should have registered for Obama (screen miscalibrated on the Y axis). In his case he had to go push a nonsensical area of the screen to get it to work for Obama, while all other buttons worked correctly. That doesn't sound like a miscalibration to me - does it sound like one to you? When you have a cartesian plane defined in software (calibrated), you don't suddenly lose a section of it and place it somewhere else on the plane - the whole plane shifts.


Dude. It's a dead issue. I conceded the point a couple hours ago. And someone else stated that the machine actually was recalibrated and put back into service. Let it go already.
 
2012-11-06 03:33:55 PM  
Yahoo has Romney ahead, 57%-43%
 
2012-11-06 03:33:55 PM  

imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Pretending I said they are when I just said the opposite in the very post to which you responded is dishonest and feeble.
Try harder.

Where did I ever get the idea that you said both sides were equally undesirable?


I don't know? Your ass? Herpes is undesirable. Cancer is undesirable. I find both undesirable. Do I find both equally undesirable? Nevermind the fact that you said "equally bad" and didn't even use the "undesirable" word. Stop lying.
 
2012-11-06 03:34:25 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: RandyMarsh: "obama will take an early lead until people get off work"

"Said the guy posting on facebook in the middle of the day"


should put a stop to that


You know, I got up at 5:30 to get in line to go vote. The only other people I saw, apart from voters, were day laborers. They weren't going to vote, they were going to work. Those people on Facebook can shove it.
 
2012-11-06 03:34:34 PM  

GardenWeasel: scubamage: xenophon10k: Anarchangel: Hey look, a voting machine turning an Obama vote into a Romney vote. Confirmed by NBC News.

But yeah, your vote totally means something.

Oh, FFS. It was a poorly calibrated touchscreen. It didn't change the vote. It wasn't like Obama was actually selected on screen, and then the machine flipped it to Romney. They tapped Obama, and it selected Romney. If they had tapped the button for Jill Stein, Obama would have been selected.

So, yes it should be taken out of service, but let's not attribute to malice that which can be adequately be explained by a poll worker messing up the settings. Hell, I'm amazed the damn things work at all, given the average technical expertise on display at most polling places.

Seriously - when is the last time you have had to calibrate a touchscreen? When we were using them in medical environments in 2000 we didn't need to calibrate them - you ran them at their normal resolution and they "just worked." The last touchscreen I've actually had to calibrate was back in the late 90's, and that was on a windows CE phone.

And based on his troubleshooting "miscalibration" doesn't seem to be correct. If it was, when he pressed on the Jill Stein button, it should have registered for Obama (screen miscalibrated on the Y axis). In his case he had to go push a nonsensical area of the screen to get it to work for Obama, while all other buttons worked correctly. That doesn't sound like a miscalibration to me - does it sound like one to you? When you have a cartesian plane defined in software (calibrated), you don't suddenly lose a section of it and place it somewhere else on the plane - the whole plane shifts.

Proably depends on the type of glass tech. We have to calibrate our anesthesia monitors monthly as they "drift". We also have to calibrate our touch screen tablets used for home health every time they are reimaged. Extreme temp variations can cause drift as well. (i.e. storing the machines in a cool/cold are ...


However when they drift, the whole "plane" drifts. It's not one section in the lower left suddenly activating a button in the upper right. The same drift is seen across the entire screen. So drifting doesn't really seem like the correct issue here.
 
2012-11-06 03:35:00 PM  

Burr: Rome wasn't built in a day.


Which is why giving a damn about third parties in the general election is *ridiculous*.

Get someone you agree with in local office. Attorney General, Inspector General, Auditor General. There's plenty of entry level positions that these people can *actually win* if you put forth some effort and are actually interested in working to shake off the two party system.

But voting for the guy who ran as a Republican until he lost the primary, because you want to take some kind of moral stand against the status quo?

I just don't see the logic.

Vote your conscience, of course. But it'd be nice to see some pragmatism in that conscience of yours.
 
2012-11-06 03:35:14 PM  

Corvus: Insatiable Jesus: [www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Obama!

[www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Romney!


Enjoy your illusion of choice and America as a nation.

Good point other than:
Abortion
Taxes
Business regulation
Environment
Education
Gay rights
Foreign Policy
Civil liberties
Social Programs
Workers rights
Military Spending
Energy Policy
And some other things they are EXACTLY the same.

/you're an idiot.


THIS. The "there is no difference between them" or the modified "i still dislike them both equally" arguments are plain silly.
 
2012-11-06 03:35:25 PM  

Bf+: Car_Ramrod: begs the question

[homerize.com image 320x240]


Hehe, I figured I'd get some crap for that. I see it as somewhat acceptable, since I'm questioning the premise of the statement "Giuliani was on CNN". In my mind, the idea that someone thought "you know who could give us some real insight into this election? Rudy! He'll have a lot of constructive commentary, and will really be a valuable resource." Thus, I'm questioning the reality of the premise, as I refuse to believe that actually occurred.

Also, I like saying that phrase.
 
2012-11-06 03:36:00 PM  

dforkus: Intrade is starting to break in Romney's direction. This is the start of a trend.

Romney's got this.


img341.imageshack.us

So, Rmoney's the black guy?
 
2012-11-06 03:36:22 PM  

imontheinternet: cameroncrazy1984: dforkus: Intrade is starting to break in Romney's direction. This is the start of a trend.

Romney's got this.

Mitt Romney
30.3%
Today's Change: -2.6

That's a funny-looking trend.

Mittmentum is capable of moving in multiple directions at once, which confuses data until it is unskewed.


Mittmentum has quantum effects, much like Romney's positions. It's only upon observation that the wave function collapses and it settles into one state or another.
 
2012-11-06 03:36:30 PM  

Corvus: Insatiable Jesus: [www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Obama!

[www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Romney!


Enjoy your illusion of choice and America as a nation.

Good point other than:
Abortion
Taxes
Business regulation
Environment
Education
Gay rights
Foreign Policy
Civil liberties
Social Programs
Workers rights
Military Spending
Energy Policy
And some other things they are EXACTLY the same.

/you're an idiot.


Really? Which President spent his entire term engineering GATT and NAFTA? Which President signed them into law?

They keep you busy with gays kissing each other while they ship your economy to Asia.

Enjoy.
 
2012-11-06 03:36:35 PM  

Sasquatchuan: Karma Curmudgeon: RandyMarsh: "obama will take an early lead until people get off work"

"Said the guy posting on facebook in the middle of the day"


should put a stop to that

You know, I got up at 5:30 to get in line to go vote. The only other people I saw, apart from voters, were day laborers. They weren't going to vote, they were going to work. Those people on Facebook can shove it.


Are you kidding? Those were totally Romney supporters. They want to get that sweet sweet capital gains tax reduction in exchange for losing their home mortgage interest deduction and having no health care. Book it done.
 
2012-11-06 03:36:39 PM  

skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Pretending I said they are when I just said the opposite in the very post to which you responded is dishonest and feeble.
Try harder.

Where did I ever get the idea that you said both sides were equally undesirable?

I don't know? Your ass? Herpes is undesirable. Cancer is undesirable. I find both undesirable. Do I find both equally undesirable? Nevermind the fact that you said "equally bad" and didn't even use the "undesirable" word. Stop lying.


To clarify - when I said they are only the same in that we find them both undesirable, I was not saying they are equally undesirable but rather the only way they are "equal" in that I do not like either. Not that I think they are both equally bad. As I've said, in this very thread, I'd be voting for BO if I lived in a swing state
 
2012-11-06 03:36:47 PM  

Skleenar: Music chill break


Chill music?

nah, people power music
 
2012-11-06 03:36:58 PM  

Aracnix: TheMysticS: Aracnix: Remember folks:

There are not 2 choices for president. There are 6 candidates. Vote for which best represents you and your beliefs, not who you are told will or should win.

(As a former Obama voter, may I direct my fellow disillusioned Democrats toward Ross Anderson of the Justice party...)

Been there, done that.
3 elections for Nader.
Go ahead and laugh, but I always vote my conscience.
Last time? Obama.
McCain? Lord no. Palin? Girlfriend, go back to what you do best- looking purty.

Now? Romney? Sheesh.
Ryan? Fark that legitimate rape bullschnitt.

Obama has done some good stuff.
But dang, not liberal enough for me. But I have no choice. I'm certainly disillusioned. But the alternative is too much to bear.

...I think my point sort of strolled by you, there.


How so? Been there, done that.
Done exactly what you suggested.
Three times.
I made my point.
I might even go off-ticket in the future.

But not last election, and not this one.
Call me led, call me a sheep, call me whatever you want.
I don't believe a vote outside the 2 main party choices is throwing your vote away.

But, I cannot allow myself not to be counted on the side of sanity.
And my dream 'right' of universal access to healthcare got real traction this time around.


I'm sorry if you can't understand that.
 
2012-11-06 03:37:02 PM  
 
2012-11-06 03:37:10 PM  

Pangit: Yahoo has Romney ahead, 57%-43%


Then it must be true.
 
Bf+
2012-11-06 03:37:10 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Bf+: Car_Ramrod: begs the question

[homerize.com image 320x240]

Hehe, I figured I'd get some crap for that. I see it as somewhat acceptable, since I'm questioning the premise of the statement "Giuliani was on CNN". In my mind, the idea that someone thought "you know who could give us some real insight into this election? Rudy! He'll have a lot of constructive commentary, and will really be a valuable resource." Thus, I'm questioning the reality of the premise, as I refuse to believe that actually occurred.

Also, I like saying that phrase.



You're literally worse than Hitler ;)
 
2012-11-06 03:37:12 PM  

imontheinternet: cameroncrazy1984: dforkus: Intrade is starting to break in Romney's direction. This is the start of a trend.

Romney's got this.

Mitt Romney
30.3%
Today's Change: -2.6

That's a funny-looking trend.

Mittmentum is capable of moving in multiple directions at once, which confuses data until it is unskewed.


Just wait, Obama was much higher earlier. Lots of buy side pressure coming in for Romney.

This thing is all over but the crying, of which there will be much
 
2012-11-06 03:37:54 PM  

tinyarena: dforkus: Intrade is starting to break in Romney's direction. This is the start of a trend.

Romney's got this.

[img341.imageshack.us image 600x460]

So, Rmoney's the black guy?


He just needs some more spray tan, and there you go!
 
2012-11-06 03:38:00 PM  

scubamage: However when they drift, the whole "plane" drifts. It's not one section in the lower left suddenly activating a button in the upper right. The same drift is seen across the entire screen. So drifting doesn't really seem like the correct issue here.


Oh I completely agree in this case. I was just talking about calibration in general.
 
2012-11-06 03:38:06 PM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-11-06 03:38:26 PM  

imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Pretending I said they are when I just said the opposite in the very post to which you responded is dishonest and feeble.
Try harder.

Where did I ever get the idea that you said both sides were equally undesirable?


I wouldnt waste the keystrokes, you are arguing with one of the dumber Fark members who will argue the definition of is until he is blue in the face.
 
2012-11-06 03:38:29 PM  

b0rscht: Dammit, wife wants to go to a show tonight, gets out at 9PM. Will have to smuggle smart phone in.

At least this is done.

[gromit.orf5.com image 480x360]


Natural Law? I thought these guys add been outed as scammers a long time ago!
 
2012-11-06 03:38:32 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Corvus: Insatiable Jesus: [www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Obama!

[www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Romney!


Enjoy your illusion of choice and America as a nation.

Good point other than:
Abortion
Taxes
Business regulation
Environment
Education
Gay rights
Foreign Policy
Civil liberties
Social Programs
Workers rights
Military Spending
Energy Policy
And some other things they are EXACTLY the same.

/you're an idiot.

THIS. The "there is no difference between them" or the modified "i still dislike them both equally" arguments are plain silly.



Yes, they give you plenty of inconsequential crap to fight over, while they serve Israel, China and your corporate masters.
 
2012-11-06 03:38:45 PM  

bionicjoe: So since the kids are off from school I promised them "Wreck It Ralph" tonight after work.
Could be an epic news/thread night though. Do I disappoint them?

Somehow I didn't put it together that the kids being off for election day means going to a movie will interrupt my election day thread coverage.

/I am not a smart man


Tonight's my 20th wedding anniversary. Do I watch election coverage and disappoint my wife?

/hanging curve ball
 
2012-11-06 03:38:55 PM  

MontanaDave: Jim from Saint Paul: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [i449.photobucket.com image 500x348]

/I'm sorry but after today I can't post it anymore. And everybody said "Amen"

This picture intrigues me in ways that could be kind of emmbarassing.

But HOT.

Should she change her name from Ann to Peg?


*ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*

Go oooon...
 
2012-11-06 03:39:21 PM  

hutchkc: TheMysticS: America, biatches. We're the best hope for humanity.

Cale: Hey, for your information, I happen to be humanity's last great hope!
Preed: I weep for the species.


=\:^D>
 
2012-11-06 03:39:32 PM  

tinyarena: dforkus: Intrade is starting to break in Romney's direction. This is the start of a trend.

Romney's got this.

[img341.imageshack.us image 600x460]

So, Rmoney's the black guy?


Wait... Alabama has gone from solid red to pink?
 
2012-11-06 03:39:49 PM  

12349876: NeverDrunk23: So, what time tonight will we start seeing states unofficially going to the candidates? I know polls close at eight, but will they have states so far called for a candidate?

They'll call Kentucky for Romney at 7:00:01


Polls close at 6pm, so I'm thinking 6:00:01.
There is the whole timezone thing, but with Louisville & Lexington in EST that part of the state doesn't matter.

Western KY: Moonlite BBQ, Corvette plant, Mammoth Cave, Hilltopper mascot discussion every March Madness thread.
 
2012-11-06 03:39:55 PM  

Bf+: [media10.washingtonpost.com image 240x238]


Just happy you liked it!
 
2012-11-06 03:39:55 PM  

NateGrey: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Pretending I said they are when I just said the opposite in the very post to which you responded is dishonest and feeble.
Try harder.

Where did I ever get the idea that you said both sides were equally undesirable?

I wouldnt waste the keystrokes, you are arguing with one of the dumber Fark members who will argue the definition of is until he is blue in the face.


I am not terribly surprised that you'd hitch your 3 legged horse to this wagon train of intense stupid
 
2012-11-06 03:40:00 PM  

Walker: Giant lines in VA. This pic was taken in Oakton, VA. Keep in mind the temp outside was about 30 degrees when this was taken.
[img.photobucket.com image 850x637]


False! Those are obviously elderly people waiting to stand before the death panels! Worst black president EVAR!
 
2012-11-06 03:40:05 PM  

skullkrusher: I don't know? Your ass? Herpes is undesirable. Cancer is undesirable. I find both undesirable. Do I find both equally undesirable? Nevermind the fact that you said "equally bad" and didn't even use the "undesirable" word. Stop lying.


Ahh the "lets argue semantics" portion of the show when caught being wrong. Same ol' show.

Lets pretend "bad" and "undesirable" are different words in this context. Which they are not.
 
2012-11-06 03:40:41 PM  

nyrkah1: Tonight's my 20th wedding anniversary. Do I watch election coverage and disappoint my wife?


Depends. Is she going to disappoint you or are you getting an anniversary blowie?

/ Blowie > Election Results on TV
 
2012-11-06 03:40:50 PM  
media10.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-11-06 03:41:05 PM  
CNN headline: "You want close? We've got close!"

no, YOU want close.
 
2012-11-06 03:41:06 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Really? Which President spent his entire term engineering GATT and NAFTA? Which President signed them into law?


Umm neither of the presidents running this year, I believe is the answer. So what the fark are you talking about?
 
2012-11-06 03:41:17 PM  
media10.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-11-06 03:41:18 PM  

skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Pretending I said they are when I just said the opposite in the very post to which you responded is dishonest and feeble.
Try harder.

Where did I ever get the idea that you said both sides were equally undesirable?

I don't know? Your ass? Herpes is undesirable. Cancer is undesirable. I find both undesirable. Do I find both equally undesirable? Nevermind the fact that you said "equally bad" and didn't even use the "undesirable" word. Stop lying.


So, bad doesn't mean undesirable, and the same doesn't mean equal? Just stop, man. You're getting beaten like Romney in a swing state, and I'm starting to feel bad for you.
 
2012-11-06 03:41:35 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Blue_Blazer: Corvus: Insatiable Jesus: [www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Obama!

[www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Romney!


Enjoy your illusion of choice and America as a nation.

Good point other than:
Abortion
Taxes
Business regulation
Environment
Education
Gay rights
Foreign Policy
Civil liberties
Social Programs
Workers rights
Military Spending
Energy Policy
plenty of inconsequential crap


The Chinaman is not the issue here, dude, I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, dude.
 
2012-11-06 03:41:39 PM  
oi50.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-06 03:41:57 PM  

nyrkah1: bionicjoe: So since the kids are off from school I promised them "Wreck It Ralph" tonight after work.
Could be an epic news/thread night though. Do I disappoint them?

Somehow I didn't put it together that the kids being off for election day means going to a movie will interrupt my election day thread coverage.

/I am not a smart man

Tonight's my 20th wedding anniversary. Do I watch election coverage and disappoint my wife?

/hanging curve ball


I would hope your wife is more important to you than some farking election. Your watching won't affect the outcome. Your spending time with your wife will get you laid. If you want it, anyhow.
 
2012-11-06 03:41:58 PM  
heading into the home stretch - polls close in 4 hours. still no evidence of GOP efforts to get out the vote. At this point i'm going to officially call it and say the Republican party abandoned Pennsylvania.
 
2012-11-06 03:42:01 PM  
 
2012-11-06 03:42:23 PM  
Any suggestions on whose coverage to watch tonight? I have a feeling all of them will suck, just trying to find whose will suck less.
 
2012-11-06 03:42:34 PM  
You guys best keep this thread golden. I'm not going to be able to stream video until after work, so keep my furrner ass infromed.
 
2012-11-06 03:42:39 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Blue_Blazer: Corvus: Insatiable Jesus: [www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Obama!

[www.crossed-flag-pins.com image 400x320]
Vote Romney!


Enjoy your illusion of choice and America as a nation.

Good point other than:
Abortion
Taxes
Business regulation
Environment
Education
Gay rights
Foreign Policy
Civil liberties
Social Programs
Workers rights
Military Spending
Energy Policy
And some other things they are EXACTLY the same.

/you're an idiot.

THIS. The "there is no difference between them" or the modified "i still dislike them both equally" arguments are plain silly.


Yes, they give you plenty of inconsequential crap to fight over, while they serve Israel, China and your corporate masters.


So you believe all those issues I mention are "inconsequential"

You don't care any about any of those issues at all and don't think they affect Americans?
 
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