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(Politico)   It's Zero Hour in America, and subby only has one question. Can Romney really still campaign on election day? I thought we had laws against that   (politico.com) divider line 64
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2012-11-06 08:18:41 AM  
We do? Why would we have laws against that?
 
2012-11-06 08:19:39 AM  
Unwritten rule maybe? I thought election day was when campaigning was supposed to stop entirely. Or does this only apply to ads?
 
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2012-11-06 08:22:52 AM  
Even if we did, Subby, when has Rmoney ever given a a three-legged flying fark about the rule of law?
 
2012-11-06 08:27:44 AM  
There is so much super-pac money sloshing around right now that we will probably be seeing ads till Thanksgiving. Those political consultants get a commission on every ad buy and we wouldn't want to have them miss a boat payment
 
2012-11-06 08:32:57 AM  
Man, that election they're having in Ohio sounds important. I hope they make the right choice.
 
2012-11-06 08:38:50 AM  
It's legal as long as he doesn't do it near a polling place.

it also reeks of desperation
 
2012-11-06 08:51:51 AM  
Laws are for poor people.
 
2012-11-06 08:59:33 AM  

somedude210: Unwritten rule maybe? I thought election day was when campaigning was supposed to stop entirely. Or does this only apply to ads?


Just saw a Romney ad on liebrul MSNBC.
 
2012-11-06 09:02:55 AM  
laws are for poor people.
 
2012-11-06 09:04:18 AM  

Diogenes: somedude210: Unwritten rule maybe? I thought election day was when campaigning was supposed to stop entirely. Or does this only apply to ads?

Just saw a Romney ad on liebrul MSNBC.


Hmm, I wonder why the Romney campaign is going against the norm so much? Does he just not like what every other presidential candidate has done before? Would he break the rule of staying for only 2 terms if he won because he's better than the rest?

/interesting tidbit: no president went for a third term (aside from FDR) because Washington set the precedent of only staying 2 terms
//Prior to the amendment, that is
///Amendments mean nothing to President Romney!
////Prohibition for all!
 
2012-11-06 09:17:21 AM  

somedude210: Diogenes: somedude210: Unwritten rule maybe? I thought election day was when campaigning was supposed to stop entirely. Or does this only apply to ads?

Just saw a Romney ad on liebrul MSNBC.

Hmm, I wonder why the Romney campaign is going against the norm so much? Does he just not like what every other presidential candidate has done before? Would he break the rule of staying for only 2 terms if he won because he's better than the rest?

/interesting tidbit: no president went for a third term (aside from FDR) because Washington set the precedent of only staying 2 terms
//Prior to the amendment, that is
///Amendments mean nothing to President Romney!
////Prohibition for all!


He simply does not care. His political ambitions are all that matters. If it's wrong or immoral, but still legal, he'll do it when it benefits him.

Look at his health care mandate loophole. 'We could do it in Massachusettes because the state constitution allows it. The federal constitution does not.' Never a word on whether a mandate is "right." Just allowed.

And we had a really long campaign season where everyone allowed that particular point go unchallenged.
 
2012-11-06 09:27:40 AM  

Aarontology: It's legal as long as he doesn't do it near a polling place.


Is that actually illegal? I see it ALL THE TIME here, people handing out fliers outside of the polling place. I always thought it was illegal but seldom enforced.
 
2012-11-06 09:28:58 AM  
Laws are for little people.
 
2012-11-06 09:40:03 AM  

nekom: Aarontology: It's legal as long as he doesn't do it near a polling place.

Is that actually illegal? I see it ALL THE TIME here, people handing out fliers outside of the polling place. I always thought it was illegal but seldom enforced.


I'm not sure if it varies by state, but the rule of thumb is something like a 1000 ft. Off to the Googles I go!
 
2012-11-06 09:41:47 AM  
nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.
 
2012-11-06 09:43:27 AM  

Diogenes: nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.


I think MA is also 100ft. But I always thought that was exit polling couldn't be conducted except at that distance
 
2012-11-06 09:50:11 AM  

somedude210: I think MA is also 100ft. But I always thought that was exit polling couldn't be conducted except at that distance


I'm not sure what it is in PA, but these people are nowhere near 100 feet away. They are there every year. They aren't intrusive or anything, they are only passing out fliers, but probably technically not allowed to be there. I live in a very rural area though, I suppose if no one ever complained, the cops would never chase them off.
 
2012-11-06 09:55:02 AM  

nekom: somedude210: I think MA is also 100ft. But I always thought that was exit polling couldn't be conducted except at that distance

I'm not sure what it is in PA, but these people are nowhere near 100 feet away. They are there every year. They aren't intrusive or anything, they are only passing out fliers, but probably technically not allowed to be there. I live in a very rural area though, I suppose if no one ever complained, the cops would never chase them off.


At the early polling place nearest my mom last Saturday, there was a Romney campaign truck within the electioneering zone. It was reported. But what's the consequence, really, at this point?

During the primary and local elections here in FL, I was stopped outside the polling place and forced to show ID to enter and vote (after showing my ID to the real election lady to get my ballot). That is 100% illegal, even under our new retarded voting laws. I told the woman who challenged me that. "This is how we're doing it here." So I took her name, etc. and filed a complaint. Never heard a word back from the Supervisor of Elections.
 
2012-11-06 10:25:22 AM  

Diogenes: nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.


NJ's 100 feet, too.

2 CSB's: In 2004, some crazed woman got in my face, screaming about my Kerry bumper sticker being illegal because I was in a polling place's parking lot. She made such a fuss, someone came over and told her the rule was for 100 feet or less. I was at least a football field away and had no idea I was even near a polling place at the time. It was in a first aid building next to a strip mall. All I wanted was to go to Starbucks.

In 2008, I was wearing an Obama shirt on election day, but zipped up my jacket to cover it when I got near the building. Once inside, woman behind me complained to the election volunteer that I was "showing it off" outside. Volunteer told her that I had the jacket zipped up now, so that was okay, and as long as I wasn't actively campaigning within 100 feet of the place, there wasn't a problem.

It never ceases to amaze me that NJ always goes blue.
 
2012-11-06 10:32:40 AM  

brigid_fitch: It never ceases to amaze me that NJ always goes blue.


Seriously. My family has a long history there (founded the town of Hopewell even) and they're as Republican as they come. And yet it goes blue. Defies my personal experience.
 
2012-11-06 10:41:49 AM  

Diogenes: brigid_fitch: It never ceases to amaze me that NJ always goes blue.

Seriously. My family has a long history there (founded the town of Hopewell even) and they're as Republican as they come. And yet it goes blue. Defies my personal experience.


Its the unions. The GOP havent been a friend to the unions for a very very long time. If they would switch their stance on unions they would have jersey.
 
2012-11-06 10:44:10 AM  

Diogenes: During the primary and local elections here in FL, I was stopped outside the polling place and forced to show ID to enter and vote (after showing my ID to the real election lady to get my ballot). That is 100% illegal, even under our new retarded voting laws. I told the woman who challenged me that. "This is how we're doing it here." So I took her name, etc. and filed a complaint. Never heard a word back from the Supervisor of Elections.


Holy fark, was she a campaign staffer or someone from the state? Do you know anyone in the press that could write a story about that?

That's farking scary though. Living in MA, I have never once experienced that crazy on election day. I'm kinda curious as to what an experience like that is like and at the same time, terrified.
 
2012-11-06 10:46:00 AM  
In my state you have to remain a certain number of feet from any polling place. Though they seem to measure it from the actual machine and not the place. Which means they can campaign on the sidewalk outside.
 
2012-11-06 10:49:33 AM  

somedude210: Diogenes: During the primary and local elections here in FL, I was stopped outside the polling place and forced to show ID to enter and vote (after showing my ID to the real election lady to get my ballot). That is 100% illegal, even under our new retarded voting laws. I told the woman who challenged me that. "This is how we're doing it here." So I took her name, etc. and filed a complaint. Never heard a word back from the Supervisor of Elections.

Holy fark, was she a campaign staffer or someone from the state? Do you know anyone in the press that could write a story about that?

That's farking scary though. Living in MA, I have never once experienced that crazy on election day. I'm kinda curious as to what an experience like that is like and at the same time, terrified.


State. She was a poll worker.

I guess I could have made a bigger stink. But frankly, this district is pretty much older white people. I don't think it was so much a suppression effort as it was something they decided to do at my place. Still illegal, though. And she was kind of pissed I challenged her on it. That's mostly why I filed the complaint.

Old people and HOAs. People with a little bit of power who think they're gods here.
 
2012-11-06 10:52:27 AM  

Diogenes: Old people and HOAs. People with a little bit of power who think they're gods here.


Wait, they're not? Isn't god an old dude who runs heaven?
 
2012-11-06 10:59:52 AM  

Diogenes: nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.


100 Feet? We got people here in NC who hand you fliers within a few steps of the damn building the polling place is in.
 
2012-11-06 11:03:46 AM  

Cythraul: Diogenes: nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.

100 Feet? We got people here in NC who hand you fliers within a few steps of the damn building the polling place is in.


As I said, I'm sure the consequences are minimal to nonexistent. And I wonder where you draw the boundary. The door? The line you stand behind before you get your ballot?

I would tell anyone who tried to hand me a flier that that's the best way to make me vote against whomever or whatever they're selling.
 
2012-11-06 11:13:11 AM  
I think both Obama and McCain did this in 2008.  Either way, the local people always campaign until the last vote is cast.
 
2012-11-06 11:24:13 AM  
Laws are for the little people
 
2012-11-06 11:25:32 AM  
Premature butthurt is premature.
 
2012-11-06 11:26:21 AM  
Back when I was an election judge, we made people cover up their t-shirts if they had a political message on them. So electioneering laws are still enforced where I live.
 
2012-11-06 11:27:23 AM  

Diogenes: Cythraul: Diogenes: nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.

100 Feet? We got people here in NC who hand you fliers within a few steps of the damn building the polling place is in.

As I said, I'm sure the consequences are minimal to nonexistent. And I wonder where you draw the boundary. The door? The line you stand behind before you get your ballot?

I would tell anyone who tried to hand me a flier that that's the best way to make me vote against whomever or whatever they're selling.


I usually mutter something along the lines of, 'Oh good! A physical focus for my hex of everlasting incontinence.'
 
2012-11-06 11:28:07 AM  
He's in Manchester? Great that will get the free stater's all frothy...

/Get out and vote NH!!
 
2012-11-06 11:29:29 AM  
I think if you are campaigning on election day you are losing ground. Today is the day you get all those Supporters to go and DO SOMETHING....not attend your rally to make it appear to others that you are creating something big. That part is over.
 
2012-11-06 11:29:46 AM  
FTA: While 11th-hour polls gave Obama a slight edge, the race was perceived as so close that neither campaign was ceding any ground anywhere.

It's sad that even with all the flip-flopping, rape backing, crappy math budget stuff that Romney has spewed out during the election that this is perceived as a close election.

/only said rape once
 
2012-11-06 11:29:46 AM  
I'm sure there are laws requiring you to pay your taxes, but apparently they don't apply to Willard either.
 
2012-11-06 11:31:02 AM  
Actually, I was corrected.  Kerry did it in 2004, McCain in 2008.  
 
2012-11-06 11:31:18 AM  

somedude210: Unwritten rule maybe? I thought election day was when campaigning was supposed to stop entirely. Or does this only apply to ads?


Ads from the candidates.......not the SuperPacs because corporations are people, free speech, and stuff.
 
2012-11-06 11:31:22 AM  
well, there was also a tradition (started by romney's dad) that a presidential candidate release multiple years of tax returns. hell, there used to be a tradition that candidates actually explained their policy positions and laid out their plans for the economy.

apparently these don't apply to the mega-wealthy.
 
2012-11-06 11:32:44 AM  

somedude210: Hmm, I wonder why the Romney campaign is going against the norm so much?


He's a mav'rick, donchyaknow.
 
2012-11-06 11:39:21 AM  
So at the end Romney will sacrifice himself and become the Specter? I'd read it.
 
2012-11-06 11:40:27 AM  
Many newspapers are so desperate for money that they've abandoned the ethics of not running Election Day ads, which opens the possibility of some amusing last-minute hit pieces.
 
2012-11-06 11:42:01 AM  

Diogenes: /interesting tidbit: no president went for a third term (aside from FDR) because Washington set the precedent of only staying 2 terms


Actually, I think Ulysses S. Grant, Grover Cleveland, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson all tried, but either failed to be elected or failed to be nominated by their party.
 
2012-11-06 11:45:16 AM  

jgbrowning: Diogenes: /interesting tidbit: no president went for a third term (aside from FDR) because Washington set the precedent of only staying 2 terms

Actually, I think Ulysses S. Grant, Grover Cleveland, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson all tried, but either failed to be elected or failed to be nominated by their party.


ah, but FDR is the only one to do it and win
 
2012-11-06 11:46:02 AM  

somedude210: jgbrowning: Diogenes: /interesting tidbit: no president went for a third term (aside from FDR) because Washington set the precedent of only staying 2 terms

Actually, I think Ulysses S. Grant, Grover Cleveland, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson all tried, but either failed to be elected or failed to be nominated by their party.

ah, but FDR is the only one to do it and win


Yep.
 
2012-11-06 11:50:18 AM  

Diogenes: nekom - Example: NY - 100 ft.


Or 25 dancing horses.
 
2012-11-06 11:55:13 AM  

jgbrowning: Diogenes: /interesting tidbit: no president went for a third term (aside from FDR) because Washington set the precedent of only staying 2 terms

Actually, I think Ulysses S. Grant, Grover Cleveland, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson all tried, but either failed to be elected or failed to be nominated by their party.


Accepted. But not my quote ;-)
 
2012-11-06 11:55:21 AM  
There are law against campaigning within a certain distance from the polling place. I think most candidates don't have events on the same day because they would rather have those people go vote.
 
2012-11-06 11:57:55 AM  

GameSprocket: There are law against campaigning within a certain distance from the polling place. I think most candidates don't have events on the same day because they would rather have those people go vote.


So what's Romney's excuse?

I_C_Weener: Actually, I was corrected.  Kerry did it in 2004, McCain in 2008.


So...only the eventual losers do something like this on election day? Interesting....
 
2012-11-06 12:01:06 PM  

nekom: somedude210: I think MA is also 100ft. But I always thought that was exit polling couldn't be conducted except at that distance

I'm not sure what it is in PA, but these people are nowhere near 100 feet away. They are there every year. They aren't intrusive or anything, they are only passing out fliers, but probably technically not allowed to be there. I live in a very rural area though, I suppose if no one ever complained, the cops would never chase them off.


New Tactic: A mobile poll booth that bird-dogs Romney all the time...."Sorry, you can't campaign here, you're within 100 ft of a voting poll location."

THAT would have been hilarious!
 
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