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(Politico)   Hey GOP: If you don't take back the Senate, you have no one to blame but yourselves. But don't worry, I know that you'll blame yourselves last   (politico.com) divider line 28
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2012-11-06 08:23:59 AM  
Hey now, rape Tourette's is a serious condition.
 
2012-11-06 08:25:45 AM  

Sybarite: Hey now, rape Tourette's is a serious condition.


Just say "NOOT really...no"
 
2012-11-06 08:36:45 AM  
They can blame themselves, but they sure as shiat won't.
 
2012-11-06 09:21:45 AM  
"we weren't conservative enough!"
 
2012-11-06 09:25:57 AM  
There are too many "one issue" voters out there whose 1 issue is Rapebortion.
 
2012-11-06 09:41:08 AM  

FlashHarry: "we weren't conservative enough!"


Must be more pure!
 
2012-11-06 10:22:49 AM  
"I believe in banning rape even in the case of abortion.... oh wait, I think I misspoke"
 
2012-11-06 11:31:19 AM  
Blame yo'self
 
2012-11-06 11:34:34 AM  
538 has a 93.7% chance of Elizabeth Warren winning? Am I reading that wrong or did she stage a massive comeback in the polls?
 
2012-11-06 11:39:54 AM  

vernonFL: There are too many "one issue" voters out there whose 1 issue is Rapebortion.


To be fair, if you're going to choose one issue, that issue being "I'd really rather not vote for the party that has made multiple attempts to make rape legal, protect rapists from prosecution, and prevent women from getting treatment for the various complications of rape" is a pretty good one.
 
2012-11-06 11:44:32 AM  
The party of personal responsibility, ladies and gentlemen. Bootstraps and whatnot.
 
2012-11-06 11:47:07 AM  

Jim_Callahan: vernonFL: There are too many "one issue" voters out there whose 1 issue is Rapebortion.

To be fair, if you're going to choose one issue, that issue being "I'd really rather not vote for the party that has made multiple attempts to make rape legal, protect rapists from prosecution, and prevent women from getting treatment for the various complications of rape" is a pretty good one.


Surely. If I was gonna be single-issue about 'bortion, I'd be pro-GOP. After all, if I'm involved in a rape, there's a 90% chance I'm the perp rather than the victim. Keeping the status quo (or even dialing back 10 years) would be a big boon to me 9/10ths of the time.

// statistically speaking
// pardon me while I vomit the taste out of my mouth
 
2012-11-06 11:50:10 AM  

Zapruder: The party of personal responsibility, ladies and gentlemen. Bootstraps and whatnot.


Well, to be fair, they meant personal responsibility for you, not them.

"Do as we say, not as we do" and all that.
 
2012-11-06 11:53:57 AM  
They didn't blame themselves in 2010, and they won't blame themselves this year. The Tea Party has now directly cost the GOP at least three (and possibly four) Senate seats in two years, including the much-hated Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid and what was widely considered a 100% lock for Mike Castle in Delaware in 2010.
 
2012-11-06 11:53:58 AM  

Hoboclown: 538 has a 93.7% chance of Elizabeth Warren winning? Am I reading that wrong or did she stage a massive comeback in the polls?


She's been pretty up in the polls for the better part of the last month. I think of the last 24 polls done in the past 3 weeks, only 3 favored Brown
 
2012-11-06 11:58:58 AM  

somedude210: Hoboclown: 538 has a 93.7% chance of Elizabeth Warren winning? Am I reading that wrong or did she stage a massive comeback in the polls?

She's been pretty up in the polls for the better part of the last month. I think of the last 24 polls done in the past 3 weeks, only 3 favored Brown


Silver's state forecasts also use a "state fundamentals" piece. In Mass, that's a healthy advantage for a Democrat, and might overestimate the percent chance there. It might well be doing the same in some solidly red states where a Democrat is up in the polls though too, underestimating the Democrat's chance of winning. I know he's got solid reasons for using that as part of the projection, but I'm not 100% convinced how applicable it is in some cases.
 
2012-11-06 12:01:18 PM  

qorkfiend: They didn't blame themselves in 2010, and they won't blame themselves this year. The Tea Party has now directly cost the GOP at least three (and possibly four) Senate seats in two years, including the much-hated Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid and what was widely considered a 100% lock for Mike Castle in Delaware in 2010.


Right now 538 has Missouri as 98% for the dem's and Indiana now at 70% for the dem's.

Both states that should have been fairly easy GOP victories. But, I'm sure they'll keep chatting up rape after these elections.
 
2012-11-06 12:01:23 PM  

Jim_Callahan: vernonFL: There are too many "one issue" voters out there whose 1 issue is Rapebortion.

To be fair, if you're going to choose one issue, that issue being "I'd really rather not vote for the party that has made multiple attempts to make rape legal, protect rapists from prosecution, and prevent women from getting treatment for the various complications of rape" is a pretty good one.


I am a male, but I would vote to protect my girlfriend/daughter/women in general. Sometimes it isn't about voting in one's self interest.
 
2012-11-06 12:09:01 PM  
And the Democrats are going to take back the House right?

Come on! You keep telling us over and over and over and over again how horrible their approval rating is and how horrible the Republican controlled House is. Why not talk about how you've got no hope of getting it back? Guess that's not your fault is it?

As for the Senate, why are you not getting your super majority back? Go on, explain it.
 
2012-11-06 12:12:24 PM  

randomjsa: As for the Senate, why are you not getting your super majority back? Go on, explain it.


Because of the nature of the body, more current D seats are up than R seats? It's hard to win more seats than are "in play".

// there I go using liberal math again
 
2012-11-06 12:16:36 PM  

Hoboclown: 538 has a 93.7% chance of Elizabeth Warren winning? Am I reading that wrong or did she stage a massive comeback in the polls?


She did stage a pretty big comeback in the polls. Part of it is the Democratic base coming home, but I think the other part is that Brown made an ass out of himself in the debates. Named Scalia as his favorite Supreme Court Justice (in MA, mind), referred to himself as a moderate more often than Giuliani refers to 9/11, and kept bringing up Warren's heritage saying she wasn't part Native American and that he could tell by looking at her.
 
2012-11-06 12:19:30 PM  

Hoboclown: 538 has a 93.7% chance of Elizabeth Warren winning? Am I reading that wrong or did she stage a massive comeback in the polls?


Brown and Warren polled fairly evenly 1st half of September. Warren broke from Brown 2nd half of Sept and has maintained an increasing lead ever since. I've seen tons of Warren signs popping up in people's yard over the past month or so. I sincerely hopes she brings it home today. I would be proud to have her as my senator.
 
2012-11-06 12:20:37 PM  

randomjsa: And the Democrats are going to take back the House right?

Come on! You keep telling us over and over and over and over again how horrible their approval rating is and how horrible the Republican controlled House is. Why not talk about how you've got no hope of getting it back? Guess that's not your fault is it?

As for the Senate, why are you not getting your super majority back? Go on, explain it.


Because Harry Reid doesn't need a supermajority to rewrite the procedural rules come January?

/I'm sorry, but in the face of repeated tantrumming, privileges that have been abused will be taken away.
//You can't explain that.
 
2012-11-06 12:56:32 PM  
All politicians on both sides of the aisle say stupid shiat and both sides have dumb ass senators and reps.

the difference is when repubs say stupid shiat, the Party leaders back away and let the guy or girl twist in the wind, when its a dem, the Party leaders double down and circle the wagons with even more support.

The lesson is repubs when you elect another dumbass in the primaries do like dems and back him or her no matter what against the dem opponent. Fight for every seat no matter what.
 
2012-11-06 01:05:09 PM  

unit63: randomjsa: And the Democrats are going to take back the House right?

Come on! You keep telling us over and over and over and over again how horrible their approval rating is and how horrible the Republican controlled House is. Why not talk about how you've got no hope of getting it back? Guess that's not your fault is it?

As for the Senate, why are you not getting your super majority back? Go on, explain it.

Because Harry Reid doesn't need a supermajority to rewrite the procedural rules come January?

/I'm sorry, but in the face of repeated tantrumming, privileges that have been abused will be taken away.
//You can't explain that.


Reid will not change the procedural rules if the repubs do not get to 50. There is nothing in it for him. If he is able to get around cloture votes then what? Only to have them stalled in the house? Nope the only way those rules will get changed is if the repubs get 50 and then we will see a new record to surpass FDR on the number of vetos.
 
2012-11-06 01:23:17 PM  

vernonFL: There are too many "one issue" voters out there whose 1 issue is Rapebortion.


Which is really just a representative battleground argument over whether women should be 'separate but equal'. Shockingly, a lot of women aren't keen on being second-class citizens for whom finding a husband is the #1 key to financial stability. More shockingly, a lot of other women like that system and wish it imposed on all women, lest they become sluts who are violating some version of 'liberty' by demanding freedom from cultural discrimination.
 
2012-11-06 01:35:12 PM  

randomjsa: And the Democrats are going to take back the House right?

Come on! You keep telling us over and over and over and over again how horrible their approval rating is and how horrible the Republican controlled House is. Why not talk about how you've got no hope of getting it back? Guess that's not your fault is it?

As for the Senate, why are you not getting your super majority back? Go on, explain it.


In 2008 the Republicans were punished for the Bush era disaster. They reformed under a different flag (Tea Party) to dissociate themselves from the mess, forget their mistakes, and basically forgive themselves (self-forgiveness being truest 'strength' of Protestant conservatism). Now the GOP has come back ready to make the same mistakes, but harder and angrier. It wasn't enough.
 
2012-11-06 02:33:11 PM  

unit63: randomjsa: And the Democrats are going to take back the House right?

Come on! You keep telling us over and over and over and over again how horrible their approval rating is and how horrible the Republican controlled House is. Why not talk about how you've got no hope of getting it back? Guess that's not your fault is it?

As for the Senate, why are you not getting your super majority back? Go on, explain it.

Because Harry Reid doesn't need a supermajority to rewrite the procedural rules come January?

/I'm sorry, but in the face of repeated tantrumming, privileges that have been abused will be taken away.
//You can't explain that.



That would be bad. Unless the Democrats win the House too they are taking away one of their only weapons in 2016 with a potential Republican win of the Senate. They should have done it in 2008. Oh well! C'est la vie.
 
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