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2012-11-06 02:44:10 PM
My concern is that we'd be importing the fighting, terrorism and corruption that exists in Mexico. because of the drug trade.
Cartel grow ops, trying to dominate the market; using whatever means to remove competition from the market.

Is it a bit naive to think that if the borders are changed, that Cartels will give up their old ways?
 
2012-11-06 02:46:50 PM

santadog: WeenerGord: santadog: No, it would not.

santadog: Every hear of mites? Frost? Hail? Floods? Drought? Animals? Bugs? Birds? Thieves? Vandals?

I can see how weed snobs getting paid BIG bucks for little measly one and two inch long buds would feel intimidated by that.

Your ignorance to the industry shows.
That is all.


I don't know about the 'Industry'. In fact, I don't care about the 'Industry'. When (not If...) it gets legalize , I WILL have a plant in my front yard, For decoration, I swear. and I'll buy my Marlboro joints at the store.
 
2012-11-06 02:47:07 PM

WeenerGord: Plants are meant to grow under natural sunlight. Artificials can only try to replicate the natural outdoor habitat as much as possible. And if you like the taste of Bat Shiat, more power to you


You do realize that today's technology allows peole to almost perfectly repicate outdoor growing while at the same time controlling all the other factors that make outdoor growing such a biatch?

But if you can show me a way to make the sun shine an extra four hours to trick the buds into producing more, or a way to control the rain, then I'll agree with you.
 
2012-11-06 02:47:31 PM

WeenerGord: scottydoesntknow: Wait, that's right! Most americans pay for the convenience. Growing GOOD cannabis is a science, and most people don't have the time or motivation to dedicate to that.

If it ever does become legal, some hippie liberal Johnny Cannabisseed would prolly throw free seeds down every ditch and embankment and public park in the country, and weed would be as free to all as dandelions are. Wouldn't that be nice?


And then all the people that actually know how to grow pot would hunt him down and lynch him for making it imposible to grow high quality stuff outdoors.

When it is legal we will probably hear about HOAs fining people for not picking out thier male plants and messing up thier neighboors crop.
 
2012-11-06 02:47:46 PM
Why Mexico is rooting for U.S. states to legalize pot on election day, Taco Bell strangely silent on the matter

Emphasis mine. Subby has perhaps partaken already today.
 
2012-11-06 02:48:08 PM

WeenerGord: santadog: Your ignorance to the industry shows.
That is all.

Whatever, dude. I don't smoke that shiat at all, but I think it should be completely legal world wide. We are on the same side here, and just cos I think natural conditions are best for plants, you gotta pick a fight with me? Sounds like somebody is worried about losing their weed snob job.


I think that people who professionally grow high-quality cannabis get a bit miffed when folks talk about how easy it is and how you just chuck a few seeds out the window and you're done, because in reality it is actually a tremendous pain in the ass to grow high quality stuff. Sure genetics is part of it, but it takes a pretty keen sense of horticulture and a serious commitment of time and effort to get the job done right.

It's really inaccurate to compare it to growing tomatoes. Exotic orchids would probably be more apt.
 
2012-11-06 02:48:15 PM
Legal pot in the US would cut into the CIA profits.
 
2012-11-06 02:49:18 PM

radarlove: then it took years to grow that plant.


Cannabis is an annual, Donnie.
 
2012-11-06 02:50:35 PM

radarlove: JohnBigBootay: santadog: Guess what? When it's legal, paranoia goes away!!!

Yeah, no. I'm not paranoid from the 5-0 necessarily. I just get all worried about everything on the strong sativas - also, can't sleep. So that's a no go. No problem - there's plenty of fine indicas luckily.

I'm with ya- big indica guy here. Are you old? I've noticed most of us middle-aged-to-old folks prefer indicas, whereas the whippersnappers all like sativas.


Yeah. I am old. Not 50 old, but close enough. At any rate I'm voting for legalization for an odd reason - so I can reliably find weaker strains I like. Up in the PAC NW we've got some strooooooong buds. Some of them too strong for me as I've been a two toke chump for a quarter century and I'm cool with that.

Also, there's lots and lots of folks out there who think they don't like weed because their singular experience wasn't positive - fact is if my first hit had been from a sativa plant I'd think I didn't like weed either. the weed world is a big one and it's 'high' time the average joe knew what he was buying instead of being forced to take the bag of the week with no idea what it is. Might get sativa (not too likely but still), might get indica, might get 3% THC, might get 20% thc.
 
2012-11-06 02:54:20 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: then it took years to grow that plant.

Cannabis is an annual, Donnie.


Shhhhh! Don't tell that to my 3 year old Big Bud mother, or she'll die!

I like ya, WeenerGord, but you've gotta admit, there are people in this thread who know a lot more about growing pot than you do.
 
2012-11-06 02:58:13 PM

JohnBigBootay: radarlove: JohnBigBootay: santadog: Guess what? When it's legal, paranoia goes away!!!

Yeah, no. I'm not paranoid from the 5-0 necessarily. I just get all worried about everything on the strong sativas - also, can't sleep. So that's a no go. No problem - there's plenty of fine indicas luckily.

I'm with ya- big indica guy here. Are you old? I've noticed most of us middle-aged-to-old folks prefer indicas, whereas the whippersnappers all like sativas.

Yeah. I am old. Not 50 old, but close enough. At any rate I'm voting for legalization for an odd reason - so I can reliably find weaker strains I like. Up in the PAC NW we've got some strooooooong buds. Some of them too strong for me as I've been a two toke chump for a quarter century and I'm cool with that.

Also, there's lots and lots of folks out there who think they don't like weed because their singular experience wasn't positive - fact is if my first hit had been from a sativa plant I'd think I didn't like weed either. the weed world is a big one and it's 'high' time the average joe knew what he was buying instead of being forced to take the bag of the week with no idea what it is. Might get sativa (not too likely but still), might get indica, might get 3% THC, might get 20% thc.


Agreed. Back in Fort Collins I was working on a compendium of strains that I wanted to get published. Easy to do when you're getting three to five new strains to try every week for free. But here in NM, I don't even know what the hell I'm getting and they almost always screw you on the weight.
 
2012-11-06 02:58:45 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: santadog: Wasilla Hillbilly: What remains to be seen is how it would effective the prices. I suspect the high end stuff would remain about the same with huge influxes of lesser grade for very cheap. If a big enough difference, you might see alot more bubble hash and such around.

Lived in Austin, Texas.. and now in Colorado. When I moved here in 2006, an ounce was the same price as in Austin for good quality bud (around $400). Now, I can get an ounce for $175.00 and it's better than the Texas variety. Prices didn't drop in Austin. We see a ton of hash here.

Interesting. Don't know why but I find it surprising that it would go that low. I guess when people are willing to spend upwards of $20-30 a gram for the best available even in semi-decrim areas, I would expect sellers to find a way to exploit that even if fully legalized. There's always someone willing to pay top dollar for whatever is considered the best or trendy. Similar to champagne.


And including champagne
 
2012-11-06 03:00:37 PM

WeenerGord: santadog: Your ignorance to the industry shows.
That is all.

Whatever, dude. I don't smoke that shiat at all, but I think it should be completely legal world wide. We are on the same side here, and just cos I think natural conditions are best for plants, you gotta pick a fight with me? Sounds like somebody is worried about losing their weed snob job.


I'm not a dude.
Pick a fight? How about educate?
Growing medical marijuana is not a "snob weed job". It's a service that provides patients with M.S, Cancer, chronic pain (like mine from spinal fusion of L4 and L5) and other ailments, relief with an organic alternative to pills.
Worried? I dont' work there anymore, so there's that.
Just stop trying to make like you know what you are talking about, when in reality, you don't.

What do you do for a living? Can I please tell you how it's really done even tho I have no experience?
 
2012-11-06 03:00:59 PM

Strategeryz0r: Am I the only one who finds it funny that Mexico is basically saying that 3 states in the US account for THIRTY PERCENT of the pot the cartels send up?

Way to represent Oregon/Washington/Colorado! USA! USA! USA!


I call bullsh*t on this. All the smokers that I know in the NW either grow their own, get it from a dispensary or sometimes it happens down from Canada. The only place I've seen people smoke that sh*tty Mexican schwag was in the South years ago.
 
2012-11-06 03:02:52 PM

radarlove: I like ya, WeenerGord, but you've gotta admit, there are people in this thread who know a lot more about growing pot than you do.


I don't need a PHD from Weed University to say that I think natural conditions are best for plants, and that it would be amusing if it grew everywhere like dandelions, which was all it took for the weed snobs to descend on me. You do what you have to do to keep it hidden, and keep profits up, and to brag on yourself and promote your mad skilz to keep profits up, I get it.

Will your profits drop if it does become legal and can be grown outside everywhere?
 
2012-11-06 03:02:52 PM

The Decider: By the way, if it does pass, I give it two years before Big Tobacco completely shuts down the small mom and pop sellers and has a monopoly on sales. I have a feeling they've been preparing for this for some time.


Unlikely as long as it remains illegal on a federal level. A multi-state billion dollar company is a big enough target for them. A mom&pop operation grossing under $1M a year normally isn't.

SirEattonHogg: If he ever had a pot brownie, he'd know the diff. It ain't that tasty. Luckily, I work for an industry that allows me to blaze or snort up. I don't partake, but nice to know I am not beholden to such restrictions.


Despite my support for legalizing it, I don't use. I've never used. How the heck would I know the difference, especially if I can chalk it up to 'wierd foreigner tastes' in a different country and simply figure the brownie was nasty? Or, in this case, that a weed infused brownie shouldn't taste like a normal one?

I support legalization because I think drug abuse should be treated as a medical issue, and legalization would help both that and defunding the organized gangs.

CheatCommando: Phillip Morris and RJR probably have contingency plans in place in the event of legalization, and then the cartels will find how hard it is to compete with people who have the financial muscle to start wars.


I'd say 'end wars'. Cartels can start them, but can't finish them. That being said, the cartels would have the trouble that to nix Morris's weed fields would put them up against not only Phillip Morris's private security, but even the police and US Military if they get too out of hand.

Not to mention the sheer scale at which commercial growers can operate on. You could ruin half their fields and they'd still be producing more weed at less than half the cost.
 
2012-11-06 03:03:22 PM

you have pee hands: Grammatik Polizei: Mexican cartels get more cash from heroin and meth. I don't think legalized pot will cut into their take much...

/drtfa

They get 40-50% of their total from pot from what I've read. They'll still be big orgs, but it would take a big bite out. And if some states legalize pot, and *gasp* nothing changes, maybe people will be more open to taking a look at our drug laws in a more general way.




You still can't buy alcohol in Indiana on Sundays.
 
2012-11-06 03:04:40 PM

santadog: Can I please tell you how it's really done even tho I have no experience?


You just go right ahead and try. It's a free country. Supposedly.
 
2012-11-06 03:16:07 PM

WeenerGord: I don't need a PHD from Weed University to say that I think natural conditions are best for plants


You're absolutely correct, you don't need any experience whatsoever to say that. But you do need some degree of experience to be right about it, and if you're not right in your assertions, then you damn well better expect people with more experience to correct you on it.

I'm sorry if you feel attacked by me, that was not my intention. Correcting erroneous information was.
 
2012-11-06 03:17:46 PM
Is a Mexican Think Tank anything like a keg of Carona?
 
2012-11-06 03:18:55 PM
It will be interesting when monesato gets into the GM pot game. They will probably come up with some low to mid grade stuff optimised for low labour production and start sueing the crap out of any nearby outdoor growers for having thier patented genes in thier crop. It should drive everything indoors. Then they can lobby for insane regulations on greenhouses to shut out most competitors.
 
2012-11-06 03:24:18 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: I like ya, WeenerGord, but you've gotta admit, there are people in this thread who know a lot more about growing pot than you do.

I don't need a PHD from Weed University to say that I think natural conditions are best for plants, and that it would be amusing if it grew everywhere like dandelions, which was all it took for the weed snobs to descend on me. You do what you have to do to keep it hidden, and keep profits up, and to brag on yourself and promote your mad skilz to keep profits up, I get it.

Will your profits drop if it does become legal and can be grown outside everywhere?


The price will drop on the quality that gets created from growing outdoor, which is subpar, harsh and dirty due to the growing conditions and simply cannot compete with something grown indoor with perfect conditions. Perfect conditions vs random conditions. Stop talking about this because you dont know anything. Its ok that you are on the same side, but it doesnt remove your stupidity on the subject.
 
2012-11-06 03:28:29 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: You still can't buy alcohol in Indiana on Sundays.


Wow, you're worse than Pennsylvania. We couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays until a couple years ago, but eventually those sweet, sweet tax dollars won out.
 
PJ-
2012-11-06 03:38:23 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: I like ya, WeenerGord, but you've gotta admit, there are people in this thread who know a lot more about growing pot than you do.

I don't need a PHD from Weed University to say that I think natural conditions are best for plants, and that it would be amusing if it grew everywhere like dandelions, which was all it took for the weed snobs to descend on me. You do what you have to do to keep it hidden, and keep profits up, and to brag on yourself and promote your mad skilz to keep profits up, I get it.

Will your profits drop if it does become legal and can be grown outside everywhere?


That is where you are wrong when it comes to high potency marijuana. Natural conditions for plants isn't always the best, as there is a lot more work to growing the good stuff. Monitoring PH levels, ensuring that the plant is getting proper nutrients for the certain stages of the growth, making sure that males and females are separated are just a few things to worry about. Using a tomato as an example, which location will produce a better tomato? An indoor farm, with proper watering equipment on a timer to ensure optimal water conditions in the plant with a regulated temperature using high quality soil, or from a farm that uses pesticides, watering is determined on looming temperature conditions and using recycled soil and manure to supplement nutrients?

Sure, you could throw a few seeds in the ground and hope for the best, but odds are you will be left with a plant that is producing no buds, effectively leaving you with a weed in your garden. But if you are lucky enough to plant one successful female, leaving it alone for the most part (watering and such aside) you will be able to have a smokable product, but pales in comparison to a plant grown indoors using a hydroponic setup.

For anybody trying to use the whole 'weed snob' approach, clearly you don't partake, or don't have the options of getting different strains. M39, White Rhino, Freezeline/freezeland, Blueberry all give you different kinds of highs, while also each having their own unique taste. Sure, you can say 'well you are just looking to get high', to which I say 'what kind of high?' Body buzz? Coma? Just a little tweak? There is a lot about weed that you can take into account, don't be mad that you aren't educated enough on the subject to take part, and feel the need to insult people over it.
 
2012-11-06 03:39:18 PM

radarlove: you damn well better expect people with more experience to correct you


All that I expect, is that no matter what you say on Fark, some assclown may pop up and troll you, and sure enough, it continues to happen.

You sure are full of yourself. Where TF do you get all your imagined "experience"? Do you have a horticultural degree?
 
2012-11-06 03:42:32 PM
local grown medicinal is far superior, and nobody died smuggling it across the desert.
 
2012-11-06 03:43:57 PM

Grammatik Polizei: Mexican cartels get more cash from heroin and meth. I don't think legalized pot will cut into their take much...

/drtfa


That's one chance I'm willing to take.
 
2012-11-06 03:45:31 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: you damn well better expect people with more experience to correct you

All that I expect, is that no matter what you say on Fark, some assclown may pop up and troll you, and sure enough, it continues to happen.

You sure are full of yourself. Where TF do you get all your imagined "experience"? Do you have a horticultural degree?


Because it was his job. Just like it was my job.

What is it that you do for a living again?
 
2012-11-06 03:47:08 PM
In case anyone asks, I voted. I haven't missed a.....goddamit I Always vote and I'm 42. I put my thumb up.......
 
PJ-
2012-11-06 03:48:40 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: you damn well better expect people with more experience to correct you

All that I expect, is that no matter what you say on Fark, some assclown may pop up and troll you, and sure enough, it continues to happen.

You sure are full of yourself. Where TF do you get all your imagined "experience"? Do you have a horticultural degree?


You do realize that there are people who chose to educate themselves on subjects that interest them. When it comes to weed, it's very easy to get educated by experts on the subject if you have a proper dealer. You can also get educated by visiting this magical place called the internet, where millions of people go regularly and offer their experiences on a wide variety of subjects.

To be quite honest though, how a plant will turn out is a pretty simple concept. The better the conditions, the better the product. Better soil, lighting, water, nutrients will always beat out natural growing conditions. Natural growing conditions aren't the same where you go around the world, some soil has less nutrients, so you have to supplement while others have things in the soil you don't want, and have to deal with that. With monitored soil, water and everything else, you know your plant is getting the specific requirements for it to thrive.

Don't be mad that there are people here that clearly are educated on this particular subject. If someone started saying a lot of ignorant statements in whatever your field of expertise is, wouldn't you feel compelled to correct them to ensure that they are speaking facts rather than fiction?
 
2012-11-06 03:50:42 PM

PJ-: Sure, you could throw a few seeds in the ground and hope for the best, but odds are


Where are you getting your odds? You are making them up, aren't you? You haven't done a study of natural vs hidden greenhouse, you are just claiming that what you have to do is the best, then claiming that you are "educated" and superior. I think you are full of shiat.
 
2012-11-06 03:51:30 PM

WeenerGord: santadog: Your ignorance to the industry shows.
That is all.

Whatever, dude. I don't smoke that shiat at all, but I think it should be completely legal world wide. We are on the same side here, and just cos I think natural conditions are best for plants, you gotta pick a fight with me? Sounds like somebody is worried about losing their weed snob job.


We aren't picking a fight with you because you think natural conditions are best. We're telling you that you are uninformed, ignorant, and flat out wrong. You obviously don't know much about the plant itself nor the industry surrounding it.
 
2012-11-06 03:51:32 PM

JohnBigBootay: SearchN: If you live in Colorado, yes.

/Just finished voting for legalization.


Or Washington. Where it is polling ahead by a substantial margin.


Yea just heard on the radio Washington and another (3rd) state are voting on it today as well, I just can't remember which. I am being optimistic about both Washington and Colorado. We try to pass something every cycle up here and we keep getting closer and closer. Really hoping it passes this time around, but it being an amendment to the state constitution has turned a lot of people off to it that otherwise are OK with legalization.
 
2012-11-06 03:51:43 PM
I started smoking in '77 and it wasn't long after that I started growing. Anybody can grow decent weed. Growing EXCELLENT weed requires two things. First and foremost, you need quality genetics. Sure, you can take bag seed from some decent street weed and end up with something better than what you started with, but the real high grade stuff comes from quality genetics. Secondly, you need to be able to provide the proper environment and nutrients in a consistent manner.

Anybody can grow great weed with the proper knowlege, quality genetics and correct environment. It ain't rocket surgery. It does have a learning curve, but like anything, once you've conquered that, it really is easy, though the bigger the grow, the more work and time it requires.

I've smoked the best (and worst!) money can buy. I've grown some of the best (and worst!) a person could hope for, both indoors and out.

That being said, the 2nd best stuff I've ever smoked was grown by me, and was a simple cross I made. I was accused of lacing it with something by several people it was so potent. Good genetics, loving care and a bit of luck.

The absolute best though, was some outdoor grown by an Alabama redneck. Yowza. 

It ain't hard to do, but not everyone has the patience and willingness to learn. I find it easy, but I enjoy doing it and I seem to have a natural knack for it. Then again, I know people that can kill cactus, so it just goes to show growing ain't for everybody.
 
2012-11-06 03:52:02 PM

PJ-: Blueberry


Oh hell yeah. I'd buy that shiat and put it in a little wicker basket by the front door over the holidays just because it smells so damn wonderful.
 
2012-11-06 03:52:44 PM

AllUpInYa: My concern is that we'd be importing the fighting, terrorism and corruption that exists in Mexico. because of the drug trade.
Cartel grow ops, trying to dominate the market; using whatever means to remove competition from the market.

Is it a bit naive to think that if the borders are changed, that Cartels will give up their old ways?


they'll have no incentive to continue violence. they either adapt to the new method of legitimate sales or they languish against corporate competition which was bred in the American gauntlet of business success.
 
2012-11-06 03:55:16 PM

SearchN: Yea just heard on the radio Washington and another (3rd) state are voting on it today as well, I just can't remember which. I am being optimistic about both Washington and Colorado. We try to pass something every cycle up here and we keep getting closer and closer. Really hoping it passes this time around, but it being an amendment to the state constitution has turned a lot of people off to it that otherwise are OK with legalization.


There's problems with all the bills up right now. I say vote for them anyway. If for no other reason than to start the national conversation in earnest and end this bizarre schedule 1 controlled substance bullshiat. Like I said - weed is easy to find and I've never had a legal problem over the decades. But it's time to end the ruining of lives by saddling young people with criminal records that haunt them in job searches for the rest of their lives. Legalize it and we can sort out the DUI stuff, etc. on down the road.
 
2012-11-06 03:55:48 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: you damn well better expect people with more experience to correct you

All that I expect, is that no matter what you say on Fark, some assclown may pop up and troll you, and sure enough, it continues to happen.

You sure are full of yourself. Where TF do you get all your imagined "experience"? Do you have a horticultural degree?


Holy shiat man, you've flown off the deep end. If you actually read the thread, you'd know that radarlove worked at a dispensary.

It's not trolling to correct someone when they're spouting wrong information. It is trolling to ignore that correct information and contnue to talk out of your ass.
 
PJ-
2012-11-06 04:02:20 PM

WeenerGord: PJ-: Sure, you could throw a few seeds in the ground and hope for the best, but odds are

Where are you getting your odds? You are making them up, aren't you? You haven't done a study of natural vs hidden greenhouse, you are just claiming that what you have to do is the best, then claiming that you are "educated" and superior. I think you are full of shiat.


I'm getting my odds from my personal experience in growing plants in my youth. I've done my own studies on natural vs. greenhouse whether you chose to acknowledge that or not. I don't think i'm superior in the slightest, this subject just happened to take a big part of my youth.

If you really want to realize the difference between natural vs. hidden greenhouse, go find some people who smoke on a regular basis and ask them one question. 'Indo or Outo?' While not everybody will chose indo, because it's not the buzz they like (headaches, too incoherent to function, etc.), but a majority of the time indoor is a better product. It's easier to monitor the PH levels (like I mentioned earlier), easier to have a regular watering schedule (outdoors can be drowned or dehydrated very easily), and lessens the chance to have vermin destroying the plants.

Also, if someone is willing to spend money on a good indoor hydroponic grow op, they will be willing to spend money on a proper cropper. This ensures less leaf, less stems and less seeds, which gives you more smokable product for your dollar.
 
2012-11-06 04:02:36 PM

SquiggsIN: We're telling you that you are uninformed, ignorant, and flat out wrong.


This from a clown who smokes an ounce of marijuana a day. Yeah, I'm gonna be all impressed by anything you have to say. (not)

scottydoesntknow: It is trolling to ignore that correct information and contnue to talk out of your ass.


You'd know 

You idiots are beginning to change my mind tho. Maybe marijuana should NOT be legalized. It makes people stupid.
 
2012-11-06 04:04:10 PM

you have pee hands: HellRaisingHoosier: You still can't buy alcohol in Indiana on Sundays.

Wow, you're worse than Pennsylvania. We couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays until a couple years ago, but eventually those sweet, sweet tax dollars won out.


The package liquor and distributor lobby in Indiana is very, very powerful. They don't want to compete with grocery stores and other places that are already open 7 days a week. The same people that complain about too much government regulation are the same people supporting the continued ban on alcohol sales on Sundays.

/also, you cannot buy a car in Indiana on a Sunday. It's illegal to operate a dealership on Sundays in this stupid, backwards state.
 
2012-11-06 04:04:49 PM

WeenerGord: SquiggsIN: We're telling you that you are uninformed, ignorant, and flat out wrong.

This from a clown who smokes an ounce of marijuana a day. Yeah, I'm gonna be all impressed by anything you have to say. (not)

scottydoesntknow: It is trolling to ignore that correct information and contnue to talk out of your ass.

You'd know 

You idiots are beginning to change my mind tho. Maybe marijuana should NOT be legalized. It makes people stupid.


He actually said his friend does.. but hey.. who's keeping score?
 
PJ-
2012-11-06 04:04:55 PM
I'll leave one more thought here for this thread.

No stems no seeds that you don't need! That Acapulco gold is *puff puff* bad ass weed.
 
2012-11-06 04:05:17 PM

WeenerGord: radarlove: you damn well better expect people with more experience to correct you

All that I expect, is that no matter what you say on Fark, some assclown may pop up and troll you, and sure enough, it continues to happen.

You sure are full of yourself. Where TF do you get all your imagined "experience"? Do you have a horticultural degree?


That's because due to its gigantic userbase, no matter what you say on Fark someone is bound to know more about the subject than you. I don't go into lifeguard threads and say, "Backstroke is clearly better than breaststroke!" because I know shiat all about swimming and I know I'll get my ass handed to me. In fact, there are really only two things that I really know well because there are only two industries that I've spent a considerable amount of time in: the Medical Marijuana industry and the Adult Entertainment industry. I've spent many years in each and so I feel comfortable jumping into discussions about them and contributing. But the fact of the matter is that there is still probably someone on Fark who knows a lot more about growing pot or making smut than I do, and I generally cede to their experience. On any other topic, I pretty much know dick-all and freely admit to it. Except maybe eschatology, but that's just a hobby.

With regards to cannabis, I could spend every single day for the rest of my life learning something new about this plant and still never learn everything about it. It is a beautifully complex plant and I find it to be very humbling to my supposed intelligence and experience.
 
2012-11-06 04:05:55 PM

baronvonzipper: Mexican pot grows in the Northwest is the main reason I hike in the woods openly armed. They are everywhere out here.

/know your producer


hmm

i've considered carrying my heater when i go biking on trails around here, but just can't figure a way to do it that makes it at all accessible (backpack?? good luck getting to it in time --- some kind of holster on the bike frame ?? maybe i guess)

though my reasoning is more for bears / other critters &/or the occasional Nam vet or just crazy people in the woods

haven't come across a grow op - unless i cruised right past it
 
2012-11-06 04:10:47 PM

santadog: vudukungfu: santadog: I consume an ounce a month,

That's. . . a lot.
Soon you will have MASD telling you you're chronic.
Just like if you drink more than one beer in a lifetime.

It's not really. I'm a light weight in many circles.

/Spinal fusion L4/L5, chronic nerve pain.


an O a month?
only when the $ allows for it

/really not that much - granted, it's relative
//no spinal fusion or other terrible-ness - just don't like booze
///booze really don't like me - whiskey is the devil
 
2012-11-06 04:12:34 PM

inner ted: baronvonzipper: Mexican pot grows in the Northwest is the main reason I hike in the woods openly armed. They are everywhere out here.

/know your producer

hmm

i've considered carrying my heater when i go biking on trails around here, but just can't figure a way to do it that makes it at all accessible (backpack?? good luck getting to it in time --- some kind of holster on the bike frame ?? maybe i guess)

though my reasoning is more for bears / other critters &/or the occasional Nam vet or just crazy people in the woods

haven't come across a grow op - unless i cruised right past it


About 10 years ago, when I lived in San Diego, they found a HUGE grow op on Mount Palomar--home of the well-known observatory and a state park. It was over 100,000 plants, IIRC.

There were others in remote areas of state parks and even national parks. There probably still are. Guys would hike for miles with bags of fertilizer and other supplies, divert streams for irrigation, and leave mounds of trash and chemicals lying around after the harvest.
 
2012-11-06 04:12:44 PM

radarlove:
That's because due to its gigantic userbase, no matter what you say on Fark someone is bound to...Perfectly crommulant redacted... I find it to be very humbling to my supposed intelligence and experience.




How could you have experience in the Adult entertainment industry and not know if back stroke is better than breast stroke?
 
2012-11-06 04:12:55 PM

WeenerGord: SquiggsIN: We're telling you that you are uninformed, ignorant, and flat out wrong.

This from a clown who smokes an ounce of marijuana a day. Yeah, I'm gonna be all impressed by anything you have to say. (not)

scottydoesntknow: It is trolling to ignore that correct information and contnue to talk out of your ass.

You'd know 

You idiots are beginning to change my mind tho. Maybe marijuana should NOT be legalized. It makes people stupid.


Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. I never said I smoked an ounce. As a matter of fact I almost NEVER smoke. When I do use cannabis recreationally I prefer a vaporizer. I do, however, have a cousin who does smoke between a half and a full ounce every single day.

Refusing to admit you are incorrect when faced with contradicting evidence is a sign of a delusional person. I don't mean to insult you but, perhaps you should seek help. Cannabis doesn't make people stupid, listening to stubborn fools like you, however, does spread ignorance. (which still doesn't make anyone stupid, ignorance isn't stupidity)
 
2012-11-06 04:13:49 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: santadog: Wasilla Hillbilly: What remains to be seen is how it would effective the prices. I suspect the high end stuff would remain about the same with huge influxes of lesser grade for very cheap. If a big enough difference, you might see alot more bubble hash and such around.

Lived in Austin, Texas.. and now in Colorado. When I moved here in 2006, an ounce was the same price as in Austin for good quality bud (around $400). Now, I can get an ounce for $175.00 and it's better than the Texas variety. Prices didn't drop in Austin. We see a ton of hash here.

Interesting. Don't know why but I find it surprising that it would go that low. I guess when people are willing to spend upwards of $20-30 a gram for the best available even in semi-decrim areas, I would expect sellers to find a way to exploit that even if fully legalized. There's always someone willing to pay top dollar for whatever is considered the best or trendy. Similar to champagne.


prices fell here too
not sure if it was just the recession (hard to believe)
or if it was the glut of 'legal' herb

but something drove down costs

/from what i've heard
//not biatching
//portland, oregon
 
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