titwrench: My laptop crapped out a couple of months ago and I can do most everything I need to on my phone except word documents and spreadsheets. I am not the most tech savvy guy out there so I bring this to the Fark masses. All I need is something that will go on line, create word and excel documents, work with my printer and I would like it to have a USB and HDMI out. I have been holding out on buying a laptop because I was waiting for a tablet/laptop type device. I have never owned an Apple product but I am not necessarily against it. Is the Surface a good choice for my limited needs? What about the Ultrabook? Any suggestions?
MrEricSir: So it's an overpriced, underpowered "me too" product? Sounds like it'll be a winner.
Icetech3: Umm.. yeah.. cause microsoft is a dud... That whole windows thing was a fad... that changed the entire world...BUT that being said... if the surface would run android apps i would already own one...
WhippingBoy: Get the cheapest laptop you can find that has an HDMI port.Don't become one of those people who "need" a system with a 2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7, 16GB of memory, and a 512GB SSD drive just to check their e-mail or read their friend's inane "blogs".
thrasherrr: WinRT Apps fall into the categories of 'X86', 'X64', 'ARM', and 'Neutral'. Most app developers are picking 'x86' or 'Neutral' right now. That makes ARM specific apps a tiny minority.
Dissociater: It's windows 8, can't it run anything windows 8 can run?
roflmaonow: We need a poll on FARK to see the breakdown of OS/Tech company allegiances are. At work I have a surprisingly good number of people who are OS neutral and having conversations regarding each unique OS with it's good or bad features is always a good discussion. I learn so much.Most places online I read there just seems to be a bickering of MS vs. Apple with the occasional Linux user.
zarberg: WhippingBoy: Get the cheapest laptop you can find that has an HDMI port.Don't become one of those people who "need" a system with a 2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7, 16GB of memory, and a 512GB SSD drive just to check their e-mail or read their friend's inane "blogs".I have one of those ...but I play a lot of games at friend's houses.
titwrench: Ty both timelady and WhippingBoy. That helped. I think I might take WhippingBoy's suggestion of a cheap laptop to get my by until I see how this whole tablet thing shakes out. Instead of the best of both worlds I might get the worst of both. I am still drawn to the sexiness of the tablet but I might need to wait until they match my needs better.
Malivon: There are so many ideas that could have been done...A serious investment in flexible display and Kinect like controls when used at home, the office, or other setting. Though simple, one of those could have made a game changer. They didn't.Everyone is copying/modeling another person's design. No innovation is going into these tablets as far as I can see.Oh sure, there may be some innovation. The complete lack of jaw dropping innovation makes the current tablet market fall on its knees. They're popular now, but if it is anything like the Netbook drop, 2 - 3 years from now people will be tired of the tablet.
Cooper420: Terrible article.As for the rest of you, please actually spend time on something if you're going to make comments. Reviews only take you so far and are usually a product placement or "nothing is better than Apple, here's another example of crappy competition"Use the hardware, try it out... then make a reasonable opinion to share.
ManOfTeal: I would very much like to read a review about Microsoft Surface from someone who hasn't yet had experience with the iPad.If you go in already having a benchmark. How can you be objective?
Torese: I bought a Surface the day they came out. I bought the 64GB version which comes with the keyboard and paid for the better keyboard too.The Surface has a USB port, a mini-SD slot, and mini-HDMI out. I love my Surface for on the go options. It even has a working Remote Desktop which is a boon as an IT guy. The Lync app for the RT version sucks. I cannot get it to connect to our Edge server at all. But I can live with that.My boss and I both installed Windows 8 onto our work laptops and they work fine. We can run ConnectWise, Adobe Acrobat, mRemote and PuTTY, ScureCRT, Remote Desktop, vSphere client, attend WebEx meetings, and use Office, Lync, and Visio 2013 without any issues. And we love the look of Outlook 2013.We're installing Windows Server 2012 onto ESXi 5.1 VMs and using them to run Lync Server 2013 and SharePoint 2013. We'd consider Exchange 2013 but Microsoft is making everyone wait until 2013 for the ability to actually migrate.The amount of integration between Office 2013 and Lync is getting ridiculus but its all useful. I have to wonder who the hell needs OneNote-Lync integration but its available.All in all, I am impressed with my Surface and Windows 8 on a non-touch system. People just need to learn to use Windows 8 and they might learn to love it too.Regarding both Windows 8 and Server 2012, they really are fast at booting up, shutting down, and overall application responsiveness and speed.I predict as more people actually bother to use Windows 8 the more people will start to embrace its simplicity.
sarajlewis83: Thinking about getting a new Kindle Fire HD when those come out. I've wanted a tablet/e-reader for a while, and it seems like the best one for my needs. My husband is pushing me to consider the Nexus 7 (or Nexus 10, I guess), but I've not been that impressed with Google's tablets.Is there anyone out there with a current Kindle Fire who can tell me if I'm making a huge mistake with that choice?/Thanks in advance.
poot_rootbeer: Shill more!
BullBearMS: If Microsoft wanted this to be anything other than a flop, there would be a version of Office with a touch interface, and Surface wouldn't have a bigger profit margin than iPad.
Irregardless: What Microsoft would really like is for all the windows developers that are writing enterprise software to start writing that software for windows 8. Write once deploy across the enterprise on servers, desktops and mobile devices. Can they successfully convince corporate developers and enterprise ISVs to do ths? We will know very soon. If they can their App Store will fill up rather quickly with hardcore business apps.
poot_rootbeer: Torese: I bought a Surface the day they came out. I bought the 64GB version which comes with the keyboard and paid for the better keyboard too. ... I predict as more people actually bother to use Windows 8 the more people will start to embrace its simplicity.Shill more!
RyansPrivates: BullBearMS: If Microsoft wanted this to be anything other than a flop, there would be a version of Office with a touch interface, and Surface wouldn't have a bigger profit margin than iPad.I really think comparing the surface to iPad isn't quite the way to go. It is more akin to the Nexus: it is a "gold" standard device, with the added understanding that Microsoft (as is usual) is beholden to the hardware partners to some degree.Google doesn't operate under these constraints, since they give away Android for free. Google doesn't need to make a profit on software (or hardware), they monetize every transaction/search/function you do on their OS, through either data gathering and/or selling ads.Microsoft makes money by selling their OS (and now their hardware). They can't undercut their partners on price, or there would be a existential threat to their larger business model. Look at it this way: Acer is already complaining that Microsoft is selling hardware, even though the hardware is priced at a healthy premium. If they start making products that take away from partner sales and they lose partners.Apple doesn't operate this way, they don't need to worry about "partners", they own the entire pipeline for their product. The make money everywhere along the chain: hardware/software (consider it one and the same), apps, ads, content and even some of the Google type data.
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