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2012-11-06 08:25:09 AM  
19 votes:
Everybody involved in the decision to turn this book into a single "blockbuster" movie rather than a quality mini-series in the style of Band of Brothers should be beaten soundly about the head and shoulders with bamboo canes until they promise to never, ever, ever do anything so stupid again.
2012-11-06 08:50:50 AM  
8 votes:
Book: A real science-based account of how the world would react to a plague.
Movie: ZOMG Zombies! Brad Pitt will save us! Thank Jesus Brad Pitt!
2012-11-06 05:28:25 AM  
4 votes:
I always thought a great sequel could be made about the opening up of the North Korean underground cities.
2012-11-06 09:42:56 AM  
3 votes:

yeegrek: Well, that looks like a sack of CGI shiat.

I don't blame Max Brooks for cashing in on his hard work, but putting in some script approval before selling might have been beneficial. This is a just a Brad Pitt vehicle with WWZ as a title.


yawp.

we have Walking Dead for this sort of fun. or those stupid mila jovovich movies.

what was so neat about WWZ was how they explored so many aspects of what a zombie apocalypse would do to all levels of society: economic, manufacturing, social structures, raising kids afterwards, etc etc, and how different nations responded differently to it.

making some Jack Ryan James Bond meets Will Smith in World War I am iRobot-Legend wont even scratch the surface.
2012-11-06 09:35:45 AM  
3 votes:
FTA: The story revolves around United Nations employee Gerry Lane (Pitt), who traverses the world in a race against time to stop the Zombie pandemic that is toppling armies and governments and threatening to decimate humanity itself. Enos plays Gerry's wife Karen Lane; Kertesz is his comrade in arms, Segen.

Know how I know they didn't even read the damn book? I mean, there was a whole passage about the true meaning of "decimate" in the book, right around the part about the Russian army (not the gas part).
2012-11-06 09:24:08 AM  
3 votes:

WTF Indeed: Book: A real science-based account of how the world would react to a plague.


Damn man, making me grab popcorn this early in the morning.

If there's one thing in zombie media that Farkers argue over, it's the realism of World War Z.

Personally, I loved the book (my girlfriend is reading it right now) and have absolutely no desire to see this movie. Pocket Ninja said everything I wanted to. It could've been one of the best miniseries out there, but instead they shat the bed and made it into a movie.
2012-11-06 04:30:11 PM  
2 votes:

Saiga410: Fast zombies vs slow zombies..... can't we get a moderate speed zombie. Maybe one that walks at a brisk leasurely pace, like when you are late for an appointment but you do not want to bowl over a group of small kids in your way (as much as you would want to... social decorum bedamned.) Or maybe zombies that walk like speedwalkers at the mall at 7am.... it could be explained by some type of contamination at a supository factory... Oh well just spitballing here but why only shamble or able to do a 4 min mile for ever and ever..


I always thought that Zombies should only move fast when they are new, but as they age, go through rigor mortis, dry out and deteriorate they get slower and slower.
2012-11-06 01:41:51 PM  
2 votes:

frepnog: screw you guys. all i expect out of this movie is a big budget OMFG ZOMBIES movie. I expect Pitt to deliver that. It won't be the book. That is fine. Walking Dead is not the books and it is doing fine (hell the last episode finally for the most part reached the quality of the books). The zombie flow looked cool and is something we haven't quite seen before, and I for one could use a new take. I love WWZ the book, and the audio book is for the most part great (altho some shiat you can write but can't say, some of the dialog in that audiobook should have been re-written to reflect how a person would speak) but the book would for the most part be boring as hell if it was filmed as is.... and do we really need a filmed sequence of a blind japanese man killing zombies? or an interview with a child talking about how her church was over-run? All I ask from this movie is a fantastic Yonkers battle. The rest Pitt can fill in.

The movie will likely be very good, even if not the book.


And this is pretty much case-in-point why 99% of zombie themed endeavors suck bloody cock.
2012-11-06 01:32:03 PM  
2 votes:

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: give me doughnuts: The "Starship Troopers" of zombie movies.

Except that "Starship Troopers" was an idiotic book and the movie did a great job of mocking the sh*t out of it.


Know how I know you missed the point of both?
2012-11-06 01:27:37 PM  
2 votes:

Pochas: I like fast zombies. I have been a fan of them ever since i saw them in the remake of dawn of the dead, simply cause they are effin terrifying.

That being said I don't know if i am a fan of giant fluid blob of zombie...


Me, too. They have their place. DotD remake was awesome in my opinion! So were the 28 Days movies. But their place is NOT in a movie about a book that goes to great lengths to emphasize that the zombie in that setting are the shambling horde variety. It's a giant "fark You!" to Brooks Zombie fans everywhere.
Poe
2012-11-06 10:48:49 AM  
2 votes:
Damn, I knew it wasn't going to be a proper version of the book, but I wasn't prepared for this. I have said this before, but were I the Supreme Ruler of Earth, I would have had the filmmakers sit down and watch The Man From Earth. It's basically one guy telling a story to a small group of other people, and takes place almost entirely in a single room, but it's such a compelling story and it's told so well that you don't farking notice that they never showed you any of the stuff he talks about, you just see it in your minds eye. After the credits roll, I point to the screen and say "See that? Make it like that, but with zombies. The book is your storyboard, it gives you set descriptions and everything, so use it." It could either be done with interviews going to flashbacks with voiceovers from the interviewees, or they could do it hardcore mode and do straight interviews, and you never see a zombie in the film that isn't mostly frozen in ice (the Jesika Hendricks segment).
2012-11-06 10:43:41 AM  
2 votes:
Fast zombies and the UN "observer" being a hero? I'll pass. I'm not supporting that shiat with my dollars.
2012-11-06 09:36:36 AM  
2 votes:

WTF Indeed: Book: A real science-based account of how the world would react to a plague.
Movie: ZOMG Zombies! Brad Pitt will save us! Thank Jesus Brad Pitt!


It's not science based. It's realistic bent of speculative fiction. It's no more factual than National Treasure is a historic accuracy.

So ready for the zombies everywhere thing to be done. It was fun and cool for a little while but it's just so insanely over saturating everything now.
2012-11-06 09:27:28 AM  
2 votes:
I don't understand why the zombies look like flooding water.......
2012-11-07 04:01:20 PM  
1 votes:

The Crepes of Wrath: T.M.S.: It was written as a diary. Complaining about the use of language is like complaining about the cinematography of the Blair Witch Project.

Oddly enough, I've read plenty of books written in the style of a diary. Not once have I ever read one that appeared to be written by a 5th grader (unless the diary was purported to belong to a 5th grader). But this is the kind of dreck you have to slog through when you're dealing with the explosion in publishing.

/read another one that talked about the "robot hoard" instead of "horde"
//written by someone who claims to be a professor of literature


oh come now. i went and got the book based on a recommendation in this thread. about 30 pages into it.... it isn't that poorly written. it is written in the style of a normal guy that obviously never spent alot of time trying to be writer, just a guy recording shiat that happened. it isn't the best thing I have ever read but it is short and so far is actually pretty decent, as far as pulp fiction goes.

Want to read some poorly written zombie fiction? Both novels produced by the Walking Dead phenomenon are poorly written. good stories, written by a guy that really needs to hone his craft.
2012-11-06 10:06:39 PM  
1 votes:

mooseyfate: It's kind of funny, because every single one of his concerns is actually addressed IN THE BOOK. The Air Force was largely mothballed because of the immense amount of satellite and electrical support needed to operate them properly, not to mention the ever-present fuel problem. They were still flying old WWII era planes because those were designed before the days of reliable radar, electronic huds, and GPS satellites and could be more easily repaired in between missions than $100 million fighter jets. Revolutionary War Tactics became highly effective because when the enemy can't return fire, the only weapon more deadly than a soldier's rifle is his ability to keep his head in battle. Why waste resources and personnel chasing down Zeds and risking possible infection when you can stay in one highly organized group (which meant people were actually able to rest in shifts) and murder zeds around the clock as they come. "Half the arsenal" is shock and awe, and you can't shock and awe an enemy with no emotions. What real good would a bunker buster bomb do to an army of undead? Sabot rounds? Thermobaric weapons? Smart missiles become unguided rockets thanks to the world-wide infrastructure breakdown. The only truly viable options are napalm (not widely used post-Vietnam War, but I'm sure there's still stockpiles somewhere) and weapons of MASS destruction, but as someone else pointed out, the general idea behind combating the undead horde is to reclaim or retake infected areas, not turn it into a glass parking lot. So yeah, all that stuff's already been covered by the source material. Not that it matters for the movie, it appears. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone kill a zombie with a taser in this shiatstain of a movie.


I think the reason that some people don't like the book is because one guy doesn't win it all by himself.
2012-11-06 08:12:31 PM  
1 votes:

D2theMcV: chewy milk: Ww z was ok but my god it still thinks the military fights battles with revolutionary tactics. I mean Yonkers was ridiculous. Sit in a line and try to hold it at all costs against millions of zombies. I guess it's good visually but its the such a retarded strategy that the person suggesting it would be run out of the war room. Yes. Let's use a military that is designed to be highly mobile and just sort of sit them all in a couple miles wide line and wait for the bad guys to come to us. Also lets not use like half of our arsenal and no, of course we don't want the air force to help!

IIRC, *SPOILER ALERT sort of* it was "revolutionary tactics" that they turned to, and were successful with, in the end.


It's kind of funny, because every single one of his concerns is actually addressed IN THE BOOK. The Air Force was largely mothballed because of the immense amount of satellite and electrical support needed to operate them properly, not to mention the ever-present fuel problem. They were still flying old WWII era planes because those were designed before the days of reliable radar, electronic huds, and GPS satellites and could be more easily repaired in between missions than $100 million fighter jets. Revolutionary War Tactics became highly effective because when the enemy can't return fire, the only weapon more deadly than a soldier's rifle is his ability to keep his head in battle. Why waste resources and personnel chasing down Zeds and risking possible infection when you can stay in one highly organized group (which meant people were actually able to rest in shifts) and murder zeds around the clock as they come. "Half the arsenal" is shock and awe, and you can't shock and awe an enemy with no emotions. What real good would a bunker buster bomb do to an army of undead? Sabot rounds? Thermobaric weapons? Smart missiles become unguided rockets thanks to the world-wide infrastructure breakdown. The only truly viable options are napalm (not widely used post-Vietnam War, but I'm sure there's still stockpiles somewhere) and weapons of MASS destruction, but as someone else pointed out, the general idea behind combating the undead horde is to reclaim or retake infected areas, not turn it into a glass parking lot. So yeah, all that stuff's already been covered by the source material. Not that it matters for the movie, it appears. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone kill a zombie with a taser in this shiatstain of a movie.
2012-11-06 07:53:16 PM  
1 votes:
In the book all the soldiers used a tool called the Lobotomizer aka Lobo.

How would that work well against a bunch of zombies RUNNING at you? Also the blind monk in Japan with the staff or the Air force pilot that had the broken ankle but ran away?
2012-11-06 07:20:55 PM  
1 votes:
wwzino

world war z in name only
2012-11-06 07:12:51 PM  
1 votes:

chewy milk: Ww z was ok but my god it still thinks the military fights battles with revolutionary tactics. I mean Yonkers was ridiculous. Sit in a line and try to hold it at all costs against millions of zombies. I guess it's good visually but its the such a retarded strategy that the person suggesting it would be run out of the war room. Yes. Let's use a military that is designed to be highly mobile and just sort of sit them all in a couple miles wide line and wait for the bad guys to come to us. Also lets not use like half of our arsenal and no, of course we don't want the air force to help!


Well that was kind of the point and the soldier even says something very close to that in the narrative.
2012-11-06 06:04:52 PM  
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org

This was a good zombie flick. Kind of low-budget, but it worked. And yes, it's a found-footage, camcorder flick, but it still works a lot better than a movie that has a CG wave of zombies.

It also shows why slow zombies are better, and why the zombies are not an antagonist, but a natural disaster. That's my main problem with Brooks' book-- He treats zombies like an invading army of monsters that can be defeated, and not like a natural disaster that can't be prevented.

I don't hate Brooks' book. I just think he introduced a lot of new people to a very bad version of the zombie formula, and they took the idea and came to the conclusion regarding what makes a "good" zombie story (to them: survival porn versus horror-drama).

A good zombie flick is a drama first, and the horror is in the choices the people have to face-- Not the monsters attacking, and not the inevitable gore. It's in the psychological effect, not the physical threats.

And I still say Brooks could have replaced zombies with aliens, robots, rabid dogs, or anything else and he would have been telling essentially the same story: Survivor tales about how they beat the strange enemy.
2012-11-06 06:02:25 PM  
1 votes:
The problem with fast zombies is they represent an actual threat which is enough to unify survivors and force cooperation.
Slow zombies are underestimated and give survivors the 'luxury' of self interest and poor preparation.
The whole zombie genre is a thought experiment on the human psychological condition. It looks like a fun movie but the footage indicates they've missed the point entirely.
2012-11-06 03:00:39 PM  
1 votes:

Strategeryz0r: AntonChigger: So does anyone want to explain why the military didn't just drive around the city with tanks running over all the zombies?

Or just send in a bunch of gunships to mow them down from the air?

That's one of the main reasons zombie movies make me laugh. All it would take is some apaches, blackhawks with miniguns, and a ton of ammo to put an end to the zombie apocalypse. Sweep with the air assets, then send in the ground troops supported by armor to clean up the streets and sweep the buildings.

Quick, simple, easy, effective. Yet it's always the last thing any zombie film/book ever tries.


The thing I always figured about Zombie movies is that they are set in a world where knowledge of Zombies doesn't exists. Everything that is happening to them is unknown and everybody is learning what is going on on the run. So therefore the idea of mowing them all down with machine guns wouldn't be the first thing government would think of. They would handle it like a riot situation at first trying to contain it not realizing what is going on. They will try to set up a line and hold that line. However the injured and bitten would be transferred to medical units behind the line and when they turn to Zombies the line is instantly broken and even more chaos would ensue as soldiers start deserting, police and medical people start running, just a complete breakdown. By the time it is figured out what is going on everything would be so disjointed that mowing them all down with machine guns wouldn't really be an option.

In just about every Zombie movie, even though it is never shown, it is always implied that this is what happened to the military, and now there is no central military as they all took off.
2012-11-06 02:20:34 PM  
1 votes:
Either the synopsis of the film is totally inaccurate or else the film has nothing to do with the book. The book was a retrospective telling of the events that occurred during the apocalypse from which humanity is now recovering. The synopsis of the film said it followed a U.N. employee running around the globe trying to STOP the apocalypse.

World War Z it most certainly is NOT.
2012-11-06 01:33:29 PM  
1 votes:
Ugh.

That whole "race against time" bit seems to contradict the "ten years after" theme of the book, no? They said they had problems figuring out how to translate the reflective documentary style of the book, and it looks like they didn't.
2012-11-06 01:23:38 PM  
1 votes:
I like fast zombies. I have been a fan of them ever since i saw them in the remake of dawn of the dead, simply cause they are effin terrifying.

That being said I don't know if i am a fan of giant fluid blob of zombie...
2012-11-06 01:13:13 PM  
1 votes:

Coelacanth: I've been calling this thing "Starship Zombies" for awhile now. But I had no idea how close I was to the truth.

At least I get to hear the lamentations of the gun porn guys when they show the Battle of Yonkers.


It's like they made a movie based solely on the cover of the book.

"Okay, there's some brown, a big title that says World War Z, and some blood. I'm thinking roiling seas of CGI undead!"

"But sir, the book is really more about the peop--"

"I said "ROILING SEAS OF CGI UNDEAD"!"

"Ugh...yes, sir..."
2012-11-06 01:00:42 PM  
1 votes:

fastfxr: mooseyfate: fastfxr: Zombies have to move slow and lethargic?
-Y'all are idiots.

Should be a mini-series?
-Idiots as well.


Looking forward to a WWZ/L4D-type movie myself.

You clearly haven't read the books, or even heard about them in passing. You're an idiot, please don't speak on subjects you are obviously ignorant on. Also, eat shiat and die.

Umm yeah, I did. It was mildly entertaining, but I don't think each chapter requires its own series.
That's just the TV-watching couch-addict in you talking, I assume.


My comment on it was that slow zombies are boring...but I guess reading comprehension fails you.


And yet rather than just shut up about something you have no idea about, you try your "politics thread" best to shift attention away from the fact that you're obviously wrong. If you actually HAD read the books, you'd know that Brooks goes out of his way in chapter 1 of the ZSHB to describe that voodoo zombies and "runners" simply do not exist in his zombie world.

As for the mini-series, I never stated that it should be, but as evidenced by all the production stills and trailer screenshots, they utterly failed to capture any part of the book in the film, so clearly it WOULD have been better off as a mini-series, and it has nothing to do with this laziness you've assumed about me. It has everything to do with how the book was written, but since you clearly haven't read it, you'd have no idea what I'm talking about. Go ahead. Run to Wikipedia and read the plot synopsis so you can hurry back and impress no one with how you "totally read it" because Scott Wanio and LMOE! And then to make your blinding ignorance worse, you put WWZ and L4D into the same "type" because, well, there's zombies in both of them, so clearly they're identical!

/what a farking mook
2012-11-06 12:49:59 PM  
1 votes:
Fast zombies vs slow zombies..... can't we get a moderate speed zombie. Maybe one that walks at a brisk leasurely pace, like when you are late for an appointment but you do not want to bowl over a group of small kids in your way (as much as you would want to... social decorum bedamned.) Or maybe zombies that walk like speedwalkers at the mall at 7am.... it could be explained by some type of contamination at a supository factory... Oh well just spitballing here but why only shamble or able to do a 4 min mile for ever and ever..
2012-11-06 12:48:48 PM  
1 votes:

Richard_The_Clown: Generation_D: You connected-know all this is just Otherizing non white people as zombies.

Darmok Shaka, when the walls fell.


FTFY
2012-11-06 12:09:05 PM  
1 votes:

Zombie DJ: InmanRoshi: After this, can we officially expire the Zombies shiat? Holy fark, it's officially played the fark out.

I don't agree.
Zombies aren't the main character of movies.
Vampires are. Werewolves are. But zombies are the thing that moves the plot for OTHER characters.
Like disaster movies. Floods, earthquakes, zombies.....


If there were a feature television serial show about earthquakes, and entire genres of fictional literature (term used loosely) about earthquakes, and movie after movie about earthquakes, and every other person and their dog dressed up and went to an "Earthquake Ball" for Halloween, and if every internet hack said "Hey, _____ is cool, but you know what would make it cooler? Add earthquakes, amirite?" Yes, earthquakes would be played the fark out.
2012-11-06 12:05:03 PM  
1 votes:

KellyX: Are... are those zombies... running????

*TEARS HAIR OUT OF HEAR*

[download.ultradownloads.com.br image 850x680]


They're not just running, it looks like they used a ton of cgi to make the zombie horde flow like water. So dumb.
2012-11-06 11:42:04 AM  
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: After this, can we officially expire the Zombies shiat? Holy fark, it's officially played the fark out.


I don't agree.
Zombies aren't the main character of movies.
Vampires are. Werewolves are. But zombies are the thing that moves the plot for OTHER characters.
Like disaster movies. Floods, earthquakes, zombies.....
2012-11-06 11:28:12 AM  
1 votes:
It looks like a CGI shiat-fest. Given all of the production problems, the director and producers being not sure if the zombies would shuffle or run a week before filming, months of re-shoots, and Brad Pitt eventually being so fed-up he refused to speak with the director, this will probably bomb.
2012-11-06 11:22:00 AM  
1 votes:
What the hell does that preview for that movie have to do with World War Z the book? I knew it was going to be bad, I knew it was going to be nothing like the book. But god damn thats bad. DiCaprio and Pitt were battling it out for the soul of this book that brooks whored out to the highest bidder. If I knew it was going to be farked up this bad I woulda thrown a few bucks DiCaprio's way just to help out.

None of my money, you get none now. This is supposed to be a documentary/history piece, not a farking brad pitt ego trip.
2012-11-06 11:10:33 AM  
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: After this, can we officially expire the Zombies shiat? Holy fark, it's officially played the fark out.


Disagree. I certainly don't consume all the zombie product. In fact I miss most of it. But there's no reason why zombies need ever go away. I mean we aren't gonna be done with ghosts or witches or vampires or aliens or werewolves or sherlock holmes or police procedurals anytime soon are we? Most of it will be shiat but occasionally not. The tableau is really unimportant at the end of the day.
2012-11-06 10:09:39 AM  
1 votes:

KellyX: Are... are those zombies... running????

*TEARS HAIR OUT OF HEAR*

[download.ultradownloads.com.br image 850x680]


Yeah....I had the same reaction.

I've always preferred the idea of slow zombies ( eg. Walking Dead, Romero)
2012-11-06 09:57:06 AM  
1 votes:

Pocket Ninja: Everybody involved in the decision to turn this book into a single "blockbuster" movie rather than a quality mini-series in the style of Band of Brothers should be beaten soundly about the head and shoulders with bamboo canes until they promise to never, ever, ever do anything so stupid again.



Yeah, it could have been done so brilliantly in the exact way the book was written.  I'm disappointed.
2012-11-06 09:47:12 AM  
1 votes:

kroonermanblack: WTF Indeed: Book: A real science-based account of how the world would react to a plague.
Movie: ZOMG Zombies! Brad Pitt will save us! Thank Jesus Brad Pitt!

It's not science based. It's realistic bent of speculative fiction. It's no more factual than National Treasure is a historic accuracy.

So ready for the zombies everywhere thing to be done. It was fun and cool for a little while but it's just so insanely over saturating everything now.


So you are saying...the zombies just keep coming...relentlessly...despite your best efforts and throwing everything you have at it, they just. keep. coming. I feel like there must be some sort of outlet, some method to describe that feeling of helplessness in the face of daunting odds and an unstoppable hungry horde. It is like all these zombie movies/books/shows/commercials/blogs/websites are some sort of semi-alive/semi-dead amalgamation of the essence of our humanity.
2012-11-06 09:33:27 AM  
1 votes:
god damn stupid, the whole terror aspect from the book was that they just kept coming...this just looks stupid.
2012-11-06 09:32:10 AM  
1 votes:
Are... are those zombies... running????

*TEARS HAIR OUT OF HEAR*

download.ultradownloads.com.br
2012-11-06 09:29:42 AM  
1 votes:
I paused my music for that piece of shiat?
2012-11-06 09:25:21 AM  
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: The "Starship Troopers" of zombie movies.


You say that like it is a bad thing.
2012-11-06 09:25:07 AM  
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: The "Starship Troopers" of zombie movies.


Sold!
2012-11-06 09:23:33 AM  
1 votes:
The "Starship Troopers" of zombie movies.
2012-11-06 08:18:42 AM  
1 votes:
You connected-know all this is just Otherizing non white people as zombies.
 
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