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(Zee News India)   Climate change my reduce food production in India. Not right away, but monsoon   (zeenews.india.com) divider line 32
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2012-11-06 09:34:44 AM  
Well, as long as it's only your reduce food production, and not my reduce food production.
 
2012-11-06 09:41:28 AM  
Oh, boo, Subby. That was lame even by pun standards.
 
2012-11-06 09:46:49 AM  
SOON
 
2012-11-06 09:50:06 AM  
Maybe you could remember that you don't have to expect half your kids to die from smallpox and stop at two kids for a while. Then you might not have to kill a quarter of a billion of your own people around 2030.
 
2012-11-06 09:50:25 AM  
Soylent brown...
 
2012-11-06 09:54:02 AM  
Thanks for the a link to a page that locks up my browser with unresponsive scripts.
 
2012-11-06 10:27:25 AM  

jigger: Thanks for the a link to a page that locks up my browser with unresponsive scripts.


zns.india.com
Perhaps you should look into a new browser.
 
2012-11-06 10:32:28 AM  
Climate change / global warming is yet another argument in favor of vertical farming.
 
2012-11-06 10:46:08 AM  
"a"
 
2012-11-06 10:55:02 AM  
Why not just catapult some down from Luna?
 
2012-11-06 10:56:48 AM  

Uncle Tractor: Climate change / global warming is yet another argument in favor of vertical farming.


Vertical farming?
 
2012-11-06 10:56:56 AM  
say what?

www.pyrsf.com

/image hot like a class 4 blowing up your phone
 
2012-11-06 11:01:05 AM  
playingrickymorton.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-06 11:02:53 AM  
Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?

/not on your life my Hindu friend
 
2012-11-06 11:21:34 AM  

Fano: Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?


You know climate change doesn't just mean that things move around the globe, right? Even if those areas open up they're going to displace the ecological diversity of those areas which is just going to cause other problems.

Humans evolved under a certain set of global circumstances. If you change those circumstances very rapidly, odds are it will be bad for humans.
 
2012-11-06 11:23:45 AM  
If we are relatively sure that this is a likely occurrence, wouldn't trying to develop better farming procedures now make sense? In 200 years, we should have the problems pretty much worked out. Or can farming not advanced beyond reliance on the yearly Nile floods monsoons?

//Not a farmer.
 
2012-11-06 11:26:31 AM  
Long term solution:
physog.co.uk
 
2012-11-06 11:41:41 AM  
When will then be now?
 
2012-11-06 12:12:48 PM  

Fano: Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?


No, it means bad everywhere. Think of the devastation peak oil has caused us and now multiply that by doubles. Learn the truth!
 
2012-11-06 12:51:17 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jigger: Thanks for the a link to a page that locks up my browser with unresponsive scripts.

[zns.india.com image 269x184]
Perhaps you should look into Sikh a new browser.


Punned that up for you.

/there's a grad student around here with Sikh and Destroy written on his labcoat
//his head is completely shaved
 
2012-11-06 01:54:40 PM  

xaveth: Fano: Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?

No, it means bad everywhere. Think of the devastation peak oil has caused us and now multiply that by doubles. Learn the truth!


You mean it might be like 9-11 times 100?

91,100!

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Humans evolved under a certain set of global circumstances. If you change those circumstances very rapidly, odds are it will be bad for humans.


This completely right, how will we evolve better water management as part of our genome in time?

If only we had a concept processing organ that could help us in this situation...

roc6783: If we are relatively sure that this is a likely occurrence, wouldn't trying to develop better farming procedures now make sense? In 200 years, we should have the problems pretty much worked out. Or can farming not advanced beyond reliance on the yearly Nile floods monsoons?

//Not a farmer.


Now don`t be talking all that sense round here mate! Don`t you realise we are trying to panic here? This will happen SOON, like after we are all dead.....

/handy that.
 
jvl
2012-11-06 02:32:23 PM  
"Monsoons may fail"? Uh... what exactly would be the mechanism for that? Obviously the Indian Ocean will still be nice and warm with lots of evaporation, and the Himalayas will still wring the moisture out of the air. The only mechanism I could envision is if the wind direction changed, but I don't see a mechanism since it's part of the equator to pole heat redistribution. Perhaps instead of raining on Indian, it will rain in the mountains and they'll have to devise an irrigation system.

Sahara getting bigger is a good bet for global warming. Failing Indian monsoon? How?
 
2012-11-06 02:54:21 PM  

jvl: "Monsoons may fail"? Uh... what exactly would be the mechanism for that?


I haven't digested the paper, but it seems to be a competition between two atmospheric circulation regimes, controlled by a moisture-advection feedback and a dry-subsidence feedback. Global warming alters the relative strengths of these two feedbacks and the resulting probabilities of wet-dry transitions.
 
2012-11-06 02:57:20 PM  

dready zim: If only we had a concept processing organ that could help us in this situation...


If we were smart enough as a group to fully adapt to climate change, we wouldn't be so stupid as to keep causing it. You know what's a lot less expensive and simpler than completely reconfiguring every aspect of your infrastructure to an alien world you created?

Not creating that farked up world in the first place like a bunch of myopic morons.
 
2012-11-06 03:06:40 PM  
Or, you know, people could stop breeding so much?
 
2012-11-06 04:00:12 PM  

Fano: Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?

/not on your life my Hindu friend


Those areas will be warmer, but there's more to consider than just temperature in terms of growing crops. I don't think that the newly unpermafrosted soil is going to be all that fertile.

machoprogrammer: Or, you know, people could stop breeding so much?


I heard farking will go out of style by 2025.
 
2012-11-06 04:09:48 PM  

Baryogenesis: Fano: Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?

/not on your life my Hindu friend

Those areas will be warmer, but there's more to consider than just temperature in terms of growing crops. I don't think that the newly unpermafrosted soil is going to be all that fertile.

machoprogrammer: Or, you know, people could stop breeding so much?

I heard farking will go out of style by 2025.


At least you included my slashy statement to indicate the unlikeliness
 
2012-11-06 05:37:31 PM  
They can just make sausage from the corpses in the Ganges.
 
2012-11-06 05:43:24 PM  

AcneVulgaris: They can just make sausage from the corpses in the Ganges.


Nope, the goonches'll get all those.
 
2012-11-07 06:15:04 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: dready zim: If only we had a concept processing organ that could help us in this situation...

If we were smart enough as a group to fully adapt to climate change, we wouldn't be so stupid as to keep causing it. You know what's a lot less expensive and simpler than completely reconfiguring every aspect of your infrastructure to an alien world you created?

Not creating that farked up world in the first place like a bunch of myopic morons.


Gaze at the wonder of a self regulating free market.
 
2012-11-07 06:54:59 AM  

Fano: Baryogenesis: Fano: Won't vast areas of Russia and Canada be open to good farming as a result of global warming?

/not on your life my Hindu friend

Those areas will be warmer, but there's more to consider than just temperature in terms of growing crops. I don't think that the newly unpermafrosted soil is going to be all that fertile.

machoprogrammer: Or, you know, people could stop breeding so much?

I heard farking will go out of style by 2025.

At least you included my slashy statement to indicate the unlikeliness


Ah, miscalibrated my sarcasm dector.
 
jvl
2012-11-07 03:17:18 PM  

Ambitwistor: jvl: "Monsoons may fail"? Uh... what exactly would be the mechanism for that?

I haven't digested the paper, but it seems to be a competition between two atmospheric circulation regimes, controlled by a moisture-advection feedback and a dry-subsidence feedback. Global warming alters the relative strengths of these two feedbacks and the resulting probabilities of wet-dry transitions.


Thanks! I love reading actual papers.
 
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