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2012-11-06 08:14:02 AM  
I love articles that get straight to the point right from the headline.
 
2012-11-06 08:54:26 AM  
Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.
 
2012-11-06 09:49:19 AM  
TFA: "So please, America, don't fall for this con all over again. "


That's weird. All the Tea Partiers are saying the exact same thing....but with an extra "o".
 
2012-11-06 10:47:56 AM  
And yet...
 
2012-11-06 11:08:45 AM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


How can you tell?
 
2012-11-06 11:24:37 AM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


17 or romney's 24 foreign policy advisers were in the bush/cheney administration. his domestic policy is almost literally "undo everything that obama has done and start over from where bush left it." and to top it all off, he will almost certainly get rid of the white house brewery.
 
2012-11-06 11:31:17 AM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


Lane83: FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.

How can you tell?


Yeah, how can you? Seriously?
 
2012-11-06 11:39:49 AM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W Cheney was.

 
2012-11-06 11:51:19 AM  
"All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go.... We just need a president to sign this stuff....Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States.... His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared." - Grover Norquist
 
2012-11-06 11:52:16 AM  
That just occurred to you?  Quick study Watson.
 
2012-11-06 11:53:13 AM  
FTFA:

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years?

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.


GOD DAMMIT THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
 
2012-11-06 11:53:55 AM  
If Romney wins it will be because voters voted for the lies and the brand ID of the Republican party, not because of facts, context and reality.

the author says this like it's a new thing
 
2012-11-06 11:54:02 AM  
Closing argument:

Obama's numbers as president

Not everything's perfect but overall that's "Four More Years" to me
 
2012-11-06 11:54:37 AM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


His party is much farther down a rabbit hole and has arrived at the tea party with the mad hatter........Mitt has proven he will say/do anything to get elected.....even signing into law what the tweedle dee and tweedle dumbs of his party have put on the platform.
 
2012-11-06 11:57:16 AM  
Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2012-11-06 11:57:35 AM  
Just go vote, then write another funny movie, Adam McKay.

This last-minute hand-wringing is silly.
 
2012-11-06 11:57:46 AM  
The meltdowns are going to be so glorious if Romney wins...
 
2012-11-06 11:58:05 AM  

Bag of Hammers: FTFA:

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years?

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.

GOD DAMMIT THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!


Murdoch is an Aussie turned Brit not sure he can vote in 'murica. If he could he would for the President, it's good for business.
 
2012-11-06 11:58:29 AM  

whidbey: Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 503x371]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Vote Saxon.
 
2012-11-06 11:59:01 AM  

Cletus C.: Just go vote, then write another funny movie, Adam McKay.

This last-minute hand-wringing is silly.


Because it's true????
 
2012-11-06 11:59:55 AM  

thomps: FriarReb98: ....

....and to top it all off, he will almost certainly get rid of the white house brewery.


evilengineering.com
 
2012-11-06 12:00:02 PM  

ravenlore: whidbey: Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 503x371]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Vote Saxon.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-06 12:01:04 PM  

Cythraul: FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.

Lane83: FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.

How can you tell?

Yeah, how can you? Seriously?



I've come up with a little formula for understanding Romney...


W x R - T = B
L

Where:
W = What you want to hear
R = What the Republican party wants him to say
T = What Romney really thinks
L = What he said last time
B = Bullshiat that comes out of his mouth
 
2012-11-06 12:01:40 PM  
Obama had same Sec of Defense and reappointed same FED guy and put more Monsanto people in at FDA just like W. Obama extended all the police state legislation that W supported and added more.
If you are voting for Obama because Romney is like Bush then divide by zero and be done with it.
 
2012-11-06 12:02:41 PM  

wotthefark: Cletus C.: Just go vote, then write another funny movie, Adam McKay.

This last-minute hand-wringing is silly.

Because it's true????


Because it's tired. Today is decision day. Soon our government can get back to being all farked up.
 
2012-11-06 12:03:06 PM  
'Don't fall for this shiat again' could not be a more appropriate statement... For the Huffington Post.

Particularly after you read the article and they show you precisely the sort of stupid shiat you shouldn't be falling for by this point.
 
2012-11-06 12:03:10 PM  

wotthefark: Cletus C.: Just go vote, then write another funny movie, Adam McKay.

This last-minute hand-wringing is silly.

Because it's true????


Don't you understand. A guy named Cletus thinks you're silly! What have you done with your life?!?

/But uh yeah, weak troll is weak.
 
2012-11-06 12:03:24 PM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


It's just you.
 
2012-11-06 12:04:19 PM  
Um... Obama has for the most part continued Bush policy as well, random angry op-ed guy.

I mean, I agree that Obama is a better choice than Romney, but this is perhaps the worst argument for that conclusion that I've read in the entire campaign cycle. Obama's foreign policy was actually mostly formulated during the Bush presidency, he's been a strong supporter of PATRIOT (another Bush legacy), he's advocated a set of tax cuts that are literally referred to mostly as the "Bush tax cuts", etc. I mean, he's been much, much better at actually implementing said policies, but for the most part the policy itself hasn't changed.

The fact that imaginary unicorn-riding Wizardbama from the writer's imagination doesn't match imaginary three-horned pitchfork-wielding burning Bush from his fever dreams isn't the same thing as the actual politicians diverging on actual policy, and it'd be nice if Huffpo would assign an editor to screen the op-ed contributors for literal schizophrenia before publishing their opinions as if they were valid.
 
2012-11-06 12:04:59 PM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


You're right, he's even more of a Corporatist Whore than Bush and Obama combined.

That being said, quantum candidate may actually be less right-wing than Dubya. You can't really tell most of the time, because simply asking the question changes the position.
 
2012-11-06 12:07:30 PM  

cabbyman: The meltdowns are going to be so glorious if Romney wins...


Why would you not be having one?
 
2012-11-06 12:07:53 PM  

wotthefark: Bag of Hammers: FTFA:

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years?

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.

GOD DAMMIT THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

Murdoch is an Aussie turned Brit not sure he can vote in 'murica. If he could he would for the President, it's good for business.


Murdoch has been a US citizen since the late 80s. He needed to become one so he could buy the Metromedia chain of stations that eventually became the beginnings of the Fox Network.
 
2012-11-06 12:08:41 PM  

whidbey: Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 503x371]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Is that Tom Selleck?
 
2012-11-06 12:17:53 PM  

cabbyman: The meltdowns are going to be so glorious if Romney wins...


Epic meltdowns.
 
2012-11-06 12:19:33 PM  

Jim_Callahan: I mean, I agree that Obama is a better choice than Romney, but this is perhaps the worst argument for that conclusion that I've read in the entire campaign cycle. Obama's foreign policy was actually mostly formulated during the Bush presidency, he's been a strong supporter of PATRIOT (another Bush legacy), he's advocated a set of tax cuts that are literally referred to mostly as the "Bush tax cuts", etc. I mean, he's been much, much better at actually implementing said policies, but for the most part the policy itself hasn't changed.


Foreign policy is more than where troops are deployed.

I am upset over Patriot act, but I don't knw if you can call him a "strong" supporter.

I have to say you are flat wrong on the tax cuts. He wanted to keep them on the middle class and let them return to where theyw ere for the rich, Republicans said fark no so he folded. That isn't the same.
 
2012-11-06 12:24:56 PM  
dear whoever you are;

piss off.
 
2012-11-06 12:27:24 PM  
At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years? For real. Think about it.

This is what does it for me.

I'm a swing voter, in the sense that I'm registered with neither party and I'm perfectly willing to consider reasonable positions regardless of who generates them.

As I see it, we have a number of serious issues facing our country right now:

* high unemployment
* high national debt
* a war that has been running for 11 years
* a dysfunctional tax code
* a highly partisan Congress that is incapable of working together

We also have a number of secondary issues that fill the headlines but aren't really germane to this election:

* abortion
* gay marriage

If you look at those in combination, it's clear: this election is about the economy. Yet, despite that, Romney & co released no clear plans, provided no concrete intentions, and really offered nothing more than 'cut taxes on the rich, trust us to make it work on the rest'.

Fine. He seems reasonable enough. I'll at least list--

Wait, no. I won't. Because he's back by the batshiat crazy wing of the press. Anyone who has Rush, Beck, Coulter, et al thinking he's the way to go is automatically suspect. Because in addition to being nuts, they're also very rarely right, And they ARE prone to lying.

If Romney had abandoned the focus on nonessential issues like abortion
 
2012-11-06 12:35:11 PM  

liam76: Jim_Callahan: I mean, I agree that Obama is a better choice than Romney, but this is perhaps the worst argument for that conclusion that I've read in the entire campaign cycle. Obama's foreign policy was actually mostly formulated during the Bush presidency, he's been a strong supporter of PATRIOT (another Bush legacy), he's advocated a set of tax cuts that are literally referred to mostly as the "Bush tax cuts", etc. I mean, he's been much, much better at actually implementing said policies, but for the most part the policy itself hasn't changed.

Foreign policy is more than where troops are deployed.

I am upset over Patriot act, but I don't knw if you can call him a "strong" supporter.

I have to say you are flat wrong on the tax cuts. He wanted to keep them on the middle class and let them return to where theyw ere for the rich, Republicans said fark no so he folded. That isn't the same.


Also, there are issues besides soldiers and taxes. Women's rights, gay rights. These things actually matter.
 
2012-11-06 12:40:02 PM  

Dogpants: wotthefark: Bag of Hammers: FTFA:

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years?

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.

GOD DAMMIT THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

Murdoch is an Aussie turned Brit not sure he can vote in 'murica. If he could he would for the President, it's good for business.

Murdoch has been a US citizen since the late 80s. He needed to become one so he could buy the Metromedia chain of stations that eventually became the beginnings of the Fox Network.


Oh......stupid immigrants screwing this place up.
 
2012-11-06 12:40:42 PM  

FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.


Bush was to the right of the Republican "base" in 2000, and Romney is to the left of the Republican base in 2012. Even in the primaries, Romney was the "moderate".

But the Republican base has swung hard to the right in the last few years. Romney is almost certainly more conservative than Bush. Even the rebooted post-denver moderate Romney is extremely conservative.
 
2012-11-06 12:44:28 PM  

Magorn: Closing argument:

Obama's numbers as president

Not everything's perfect but overall that's "Four More Years" to me


It's kind of weird to have "US military fatalities" in that graphic with an up / down arrow, isn't it? I mean that's not a number that's ever going to go down. Not even the biggest Obama fan really thought he was going to bring dead soldiers back from the grave.
 
2012-11-06 12:52:06 PM  
Fark, we fell for it so many times before. Do you think we've gotten any smarter?
 
2012-11-06 01:04:19 PM  

inglixthemad: FriarReb98: Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure Romney is nowhere near as right-leaning as W was.

You're right, he's even more of a Corporatist Whore than Bush and Obama combined.

That being said, quantum candidate may actually be less right-wing than Dubya. You can't really tell most of the time, because simply asking the question changes the position.


Romney hasn't lived in the Texas anti-sodomy bubble that Dubya did, that's it. And one could argue that this is countered by Romney's anti-booze beliefs.
 
2012-11-06 01:11:04 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Um... Obama has for the most part continued Bush policy as well, random angry op-ed guy.

I mean, I agree that Obama is a better choice than Romney, but this is perhaps the worst argument for that conclusion that I've read in the entire campaign cycle. Obama's foreign policy was actually mostly formulated during the Bush presidency, he's been a strong supporter of PATRIOT (another Bush legacy), he's advocated a set of tax cuts that are literally referred to mostly as the "Bush tax cuts", etc. I mean, he's been much, much better at actually implementing said policies, but for the most part the policy itself hasn't changed.

The fact that imaginary unicorn-riding Wizardbama from the writer's imagination doesn't match imaginary three-horned pitchfork-wielding burning Bush from his fever dreams isn't the same thing as the actual politicians diverging on actual policy, and it'd be nice if Huffpo would assign an editor to screen the op-ed contributors for literal schizophrenia before publishing their opinions as if they were valid.


Obama hasn't kicked off a war with Iran. It seems clear to me that doing so would be one of the first priorities of a Romney administration.
 
2012-11-06 01:15:27 PM  

colon_pow: dear whoever you are;

piss off.


Heading down to the bunker for a few days?
 
2012-11-06 01:16:04 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Um... Obama has for the most part continued Bush policy as well, random angry op-ed guy.

I mean, I agree that Obama is a better choice than Romney, but this is perhaps the worst argument for that conclusion that I've read in the entire campaign cycle. Obama's foreign policy was actually mostly formulated during the Bush presidency, he's been a strong supporter of PATRIOT (another Bush legacy), he's advocated a set of tax cuts that are literally referred to mostly as the "Bush tax cuts", etc. I mean, he's been much, much better at actually implementing said policies, but for the most part the policy itself hasn't changed.

The fact that imaginary unicorn-riding Wizardbama from the writer's imagination doesn't match imaginary three-horned pitchfork-wielding burning Bush from his fever dreams isn't the same thing as the actual politicians diverging on actual policy, and it'd be nice if Huffpo would assign an editor to screen the op-ed contributors for literal schizophrenia before publishing their opinions as if they were valid.


Know how I know you DIDN'T RTFA?
 
2012-11-06 01:28:18 PM  

colon_pow: dear whoever you are;

piss off.


Oh, look who's upset because he WANTS America to fall for this shiat again. Shocking!
 
2012-11-06 01:29:31 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Um... Obama has for the most part continued Bush policy as well, random angry op-ed guy.

I mean, I agree that Obama is a better choice than Romney, but this is perhaps the worst argument for that conclusion that I've read in the entire campaign cycle. Obama's foreign policy was actually mostly formulated during the Bush presidency, he's been a strong supporter of PATRIOT (another Bush legacy), he's advocated a set of tax cuts that are literally referred to mostly as the "Bush tax cuts", etc. I mean, he's been much, much better at actually implementing said policies, but for the most part the policy itself hasn't changed.

The fact that imaginary unicorn-riding Wizardbama from the writer's imagination doesn't match imaginary three-horned pitchfork-wielding burning Bush from his fever dreams isn't the same thing as the actual politicians diverging on actual policy, and it'd be nice if Huffpo would assign an editor to screen the op-ed contributors for literal schizophrenia before publishing their opinions as if they were valid.


You should go read what actually happened with the Bush tax cuts.
 
2012-11-06 01:42:53 PM  

Kibbler: Obama hasn't kicked off a war with Iran. It seems clear to me that doing so would be one of the first priorities of a Romney administration.


Because if its one thing the military loves (and I'm including the troops in that), it's multiple deployments over the course of a non-ending war in the Middle East to protect American access to oil. At least that's what Dick Cheney and my advisers from Exxon-Mobil, Halliburton tell me. And they're obviously very smart because they're rich. Like me!
 
2012-11-06 01:52:18 PM  

Alphax: cabbyman: The meltdowns are going to be so glorious if Romney wins...

Why would you not be having one?


It'd be like yelling at the screen during a movie...
 
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