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2012-11-05 11:36:44 PM
Stay home unless you're voting for Obama. If you are, call me and I'll give you a ride to your polling location.

/seriously, if you're in the 816 area code and you need a ride, let me know.
 
2012-11-05 11:40:08 PM

The Great EZE: Happy Hours: The Great EZE: I see what your problem is. Unlike most third-party voters, you understand how Congress works and how even the most idealist President can be forced to sign bills he or she doesn't agree with.

Unlike you, I understand how principles work.

Let's say I have a gun pointed at your mother and I say I'm going to shoot her. I ask you to sign a piece of paper saying you're okay with that. It doesn't matter whether or not you sign it, I'm going to shoot her. Do you sign the piece of paper?

At least you're not engaging in hyperbole...

It's easy to have unwavering iron-clad dedication to your principles when you're only responsible to you and yours. Now I've never been a President, but I imagine the equation changes a bit when you're responsible for untold thousands of troops, their families, and the rest of the country. Every President since Washington has had to face a similar choice. And I'm sure even President since Washington ended up making a decision that left a bad taste in their mouth for the sake of looking their people in the eye the next day.

Of course, this isn't limited to Presidential politics. I'd go so far as to say if you've never faced a decision where you seriously had to compromise some principles, you've never really had anything important at stake in your life.



I may have used hyperbole, but seriously, he didn't have to agree to it. He could have taken a stand and said 'Hell no, I don't agree to that even though I know I don't have the power to stop it.'

But it seems he likes his power. He likes using drones to take out American citizens without resorting to the inconveniences of trials.

This presidential race isn't about good and evil. It's about evil and more evil.
 
2012-11-05 11:42:07 PM

Happy Hours: The Great EZE: Happy Hours: The Great EZE: I see what your problem is. Unlike most third-party voters, you understand how Congress works and how even the most idealist President can be forced to sign bills he or she doesn't agree with.

Unlike you, I understand how principles work.

Let's say I have a gun pointed at your mother and I say I'm going to shoot her. I ask you to sign a piece of paper saying you're okay with that. It doesn't matter whether or not you sign it, I'm going to shoot her. Do you sign the piece of paper?

At least you're not engaging in hyperbole...

It's easy to have unwavering iron-clad dedication to your principles when you're only responsible to you and yours. Now I've never been a President, but I imagine the equation changes a bit when you're responsible for untold thousands of troops, their families, and the rest of the country. Every President since Washington has had to face a similar choice. And I'm sure even President since Washington ended up making a decision that left a bad taste in their mouth for the sake of looking their people in the eye the next day.

Of course, this isn't limited to Presidential politics. I'd go so far as to say if you've never faced a decision where you seriously had to compromise some principles, you've never really had anything important at stake in your life.


I may have used hyperbole, but seriously, he didn't have to agree to it. He could have taken a stand and said 'Hell no, I don't agree to that even though I know I don't have the power to stop it.'

But it seems he likes his power. He likes using drones to take out American citizens without resorting to the inconveniences of trials.

This presidential race isn't about good and evil. It's about evil and more evil.


Stay home, you're too dumb to vote.
 
2012-11-05 11:45:24 PM

Happy Hours: The Great EZE: Happy Hours: The Great EZE: I see what your problem is. Unlike most third-party voters, you understand how Congress works and how even the most idealist President can be forced to sign bills he or she doesn't agree with.

Unlike you, I understand how principles work.

Let's say I have a gun pointed at your mother and I say I'm going to shoot her. I ask you to sign a piece of paper saying you're okay with that. It doesn't matter whether or not you sign it, I'm going to shoot her. Do you sign the piece of paper?

At least you're not engaging in hyperbole...

It's easy to have unwavering iron-clad dedication to your principles when you're only responsible to you and yours. Now I've never been a President, but I imagine the equation changes a bit when you're responsible for untold thousands of troops, their families, and the rest of the country. Every President since Washington has had to face a similar choice. And I'm sure even President since Washington ended up making a decision that left a bad taste in their mouth for the sake of looking their people in the eye the next day.

Of course, this isn't limited to Presidential politics. I'd go so far as to say if you've never faced a decision where you seriously had to compromise some principles, you've never really had anything important at stake in your life.


I may have used hyperbole, but seriously, he didn't have to agree to it. He could have taken a stand and said 'Hell no, I don't agree to that even though I know I don't have the power to stop it.'

But it seems he likes his power. He likes using drones to take out American citizens without resorting to the inconveniences of trials.

This presidential race isn't about good and evil. It's about evil and more evil.


BSAESVFME!
/Republicans. Why vote for the lesser evil?
 
2012-11-06 12:54:41 AM

propasaurus: Stay home, you're too dumb to vote.


LOL, I don't plan on going anywhere tomorrow. I've got a 'fridge full of beer and I turned in my ballot today.

What's disturbing is that you equate disagreement with being dumb. You're not helping. You're part of the problem. Instead of having a rational discussion you'd rather just call those who don't share your views "dumb".

Obama lacks the balls to say he's not signing this shiat and by signing it he voices his support. He talks a good game, but his actions speak louder.
 
2012-11-06 01:25:10 AM

Happy Hours: propasaurus: Stay home, you're too dumb to vote.

LOL, I don't plan on going anywhere tomorrow. I've got a 'fridge full of beer and I turned in my ballot today.

What's disturbing is that you equate disagreement with being dumb. You're not helping. You're part of the problem. Instead of having a rational discussion you'd rather just call those who don't share your views "dumb".

Obama lacks the balls to say he's not signing this shiat and by signing it he voices his support. He talks a good game, but his actions speak louder.


I'm going to vote twice to cancel out your vote.
 
2012-11-06 01:36:45 AM

propasaurus: I'm going to vote twice to cancel out your vote.


Yeah, but you live in LA so my vote has more of a chance of swaying the election.
 
2012-11-06 03:35:10 AM

Happy Hours: Let's say I have a gun pointed at your mother and I say I'm going to shoot her. I ask you to sign a piece of paper saying you're okay with that. It doesn't matter whether or not you sign it, I'm going to shoot her. Do you sign the piece of paper?


Wow. I end you. No thoughts just instinct. Why did you go there ? Really.
 
2012-11-06 05:11:22 AM
And jesus christ, you don't want to be like Australia. That'd be farking dreadful. What with the booming economy, the dollar that outperforms the USD, the universal healthcare, the ability to say we've only gone to war defensively, the tourism, the seafood, the carbon controls, the music, art, and culture? Good thing you don't have to vote. You guys dodged a bullet with that one.
 
2012-11-06 05:17:13 AM
Please do not vote for that brass necked gobshiate wi a face like a pig's erse.
 
2012-11-06 05:24:11 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "I haven't decided yet" is a polite way of saying, "none of your business."


See, I just say, "none of your business." Then again, I'm kinda brusque that way.
 
2012-11-06 05:36:47 AM

TalenLee: And jesus christ, you don't want to be like Australia. That'd be farking dreadful. What with the booming economy, the dollar that outperforms the USD, the universal healthcare, the ability to say we've only gone to war defensively, the tourism, the seafood, the carbon controls, the music, art, and culture? Good thing you don't have to vote. You guys dodged a bullet with that one.


Let's calm down now. I'm an Australian (I actually work across the quay from the Opera House, that's how Australian I am.... he he he) and I must point out that the Australian dollar isn't *always* higher than the US dollar. Just most of the time.

And yes, when I read about what Americans go through for health care alone, it's absolutely terrifying. Which is why every smart Australian takes out travel insurance before going to the USA (a country I love, by the way, but Jesus I wouldn't want to get seriously ill or injured there).

Good luck in the elections, by the way. Will it be four more years of some promises broken, some fixes made?

Or four new years of Captain Stupid Part 2: The Mormoning?

Only time, irregular voting machine updates, voter intimidation and misdirection, and possibly the Supreme Court will tell...
 
2012-11-06 05:37:38 AM

The Great EZE: It's easy to have unwavering iron-clad dedication to your principles when you're only responsible to you and yours. Now I've never been a President, but I imagine the equation changes a bit when you're responsible for untold thousands of troops, their families, and the rest of the country.


If everyone loves the troops so much, why are they sending troops to places where people shoot at them and improvise bombs to maim them?
 
2012-11-06 05:39:08 AM

paulseta: And yes, when I read about what Americans go through for health care alone, it's absolutely terrifying.


The thing that terrifies me is the rhetoric that flies on the topic. I was told by one West Virginian (there's your problem), point blank, that no country that has tried universal health care has lasted more than ten years before collapse. He said that in a farking TAFE CLASSROOM, staring me in the eye. He believed it!
 
2012-11-06 05:45:14 AM

moothemagiccow: If everyone loves the troops so much, why are they sending troops to places where people shoot at them and improvise bombs to maim them?


Step 3: Profit

.
 
2012-11-06 05:47:12 AM

TalenLee: He believed it!


How do you argue with that? Facts?
 
2012-11-06 05:55:42 AM

TalenLee: paulseta: And yes, when I read about what Americans go through for health care alone, it's absolutely terrifying.

The thing that terrifies me is the rhetoric that flies on the topic. I was told by one West Virginian (there's your problem), point blank, that no country that has tried universal health care has lasted more than ten years before collapse. He said that in a farking TAFE CLASSROOM, staring me in the eye. He believed it!


The thing is, Australia has what you'd call reasonable universal health care: if you're in dire straits, you will be helped. The only really long queues are for elective and non-life threatening opertaions (and yes, Australia doesn't do the horrible "it's not really life threatening, so don't worry about it" crap - if it's bad, it's acknowledged as such). The system here is not perfect, but I have had a lot of dealings with it, and it's not bad at all.

And if you want private cover for the special treatment etc, it's not that expensive either. It works, and it all has done for a long, long time. And we're not going broke over here: it's not like the national sport is avoiding taxes (cough Greece cough cough).

I've lived in the US, the UK, New Zealand and Australia, and I don't know how this utter nonense about "socialized medicine" got traction, but it's garbage. It's the best system which could be done under the system of government able to be implemented. There are the odd horror stories, but interestingly enough, there are a lot of private medical horror stories in all countries which actually put a lot of universal health issues to shame with their tales of incomptence and screw-ups caused by the knock on effects of full privatisation of something which *needs* government control (and I don't even like the government controlling most things...)

But then, tell someone who's decided that "universal health care is teh commo pinko death panel evilz" about the myraid facts regarding (say) Australian implementation of same, and they'll still just shout bilge and bile until they're carted away in a collapse, presumably to be left outside a good old American hospital untli their hopefully existant Blue Cross card can be found. It's really amazing.
 
2012-11-06 05:56:30 AM

Zombie DJ: BarkingUnicorn: "I haven't decided yet" is a polite way of saying, "none of your business."

This.
I know who I'm voting for, but it would a stupid derp fight with some of my family, so that's exactly what I say.


same here, i already early voted and had to do the whole "dunno lol who cares" dance
 
2012-11-06 05:57:38 AM

propasaurus: I recall, the President did issue a signing statement essentially saying he disagrees with certain provisions and won't be enforcing them.


He only disagreed in that it wasn't broad enough and he already thought he had that power, not because he sees it as a vile insult to the very notion of America (whose founding document explicitly names many perfidies committed by an out of control executive) or anything.
 
2012-11-06 05:59:16 AM
I voted for Stein because her ideas are a better match for mine than Obama's. However, I'm also in a state (Oregon) where it probably won't make a damn bit of difference, so I had the luxury of voting my conscience (though if it does make a difference, I'll probably be wearing a sardonic smile for a week).

As for undecided voters, it must be a nightmare living in a world at the dead center between Ds and Rs, and probably one full of extreme apathy or misconceptions about both parties. I can just imagine someone standing in a poling booth (or sitting at their table filling out mail in ballots in Oregon and Washington) asking herself, "Do I want to live in a socialist hell where welfare queens will be living high on the hog with my money and getting health care they don't deserve while I slave away, or do I want to live under the iron boot of a fascist, robotic dictator who will sell the children I was forced to have for wall street's gain while he sips thousand dollar sparkling water in a cup made out of human skin? I just can't decide."
 
2012-11-06 06:16:05 AM

TalenLee: paulseta: And yes, when I read about what Americans go through for health care alone, it's absolutely terrifying.

The thing that terrifies me is the rhetoric that flies on the topic. I was told by one West Virginian (there's your problem), point blank, that no country that has tried universal health care has lasted more than ten years before collapse. He said that in a farking TAFE CLASSROOM, staring me in the eye. He believed it!


Thing is, with our health care costs like they are, we probably can't. However, if what Obama did, coupled with some major cost reforms then we may survive. I hope he does (and I hope he gets reelected). If Romney gets reelected there will be a big hit on the middle class in taxes. He'll not only take away the home mortgage decuction, he'll start taxing our health insurance as income, that I can almost guarantee. The man is not fit to be the leader of the free world.
 
2012-11-06 06:17:18 AM
I used to vote for third-party candidates. Hell, I used to belong to the Socialist Party because I didn't think the centralist Democrats were liberal enough. Then I realized that form of protest just doesn't do anything... AT ALL. It's basically a form of intellectual masturbation.

When you say "I boycotted Walmart because I don't agree with their practices", you're doing absolutely nothing. Walmart doesn't look at their sales, notice you not buying shiat, and say "Crap, John Smith is boycotting us. We should change the way we do business!" No, nothing happens. "Voting with your pocketbook" does nothing unless you have a sizable cross-section doing it. (Think Chick-fil-A level of publicity.) Protests at Walmart, so-called Million Man Marches, etc., do more than your silent boycott, and even they don't do much. You want to change the way they do business? Do something public that matters to more than just 2% of the population. Protest, create your own business, write a documentary, hell, write a news article and submit it to the local newspaper. Even writing a blog entry does more than your silent boycott.

The same applies to third-party voting. It's a two-party system. Deal with it. It is mathematically impossible for a third-party candidate to even get his/her foot in the door because it's a binary voting system. Not runoff or multiple choice. You pick one and only one candidate. Thus, the system naturally falls into two-party mode.

You want to change the way things work? You want to get a third-party candidate elected? You have a few choices:

1. Protest and educate people about why the two-party system sucks. Educate them on why third-party candidates can't work in this binary voting model.
2. Encourage LOCAL third-party elections. And by local, I mean city or below. Right now, trying to elect a third-party candidate on a national level is like trying to take a single snowflake through the bowels of Hell and expecting it to survive. Only in a medium where you are dealing with mere thousands of voters would you have a snowball's chance of electing one. And even then, you would have to find platforms where you aren't even dealing with both an R/D on the ticket.

You'll note that none of those options include wasting your vote on a third-party candidate. Vote in the two-party system as always, and push for change to make it more than that. Anything else is useless and counter-productive.
 
2012-11-06 06:21:13 AM
But...if I got just ONE more robocall or saw ONE more ad maybe I'd finally make up my mind!
 
2012-11-06 06:25:44 AM
In a country with mandatory voting I would say my EXACT vote is always undecided.

Keeping track of how many options are on the balot before hand would be a bit of a pain. I ain't letting some back room deal decide who my preferences go to either!
 
2012-11-06 06:38:06 AM

Happy Hours: ...my vote has more of a chance of swaying the election.


Said the guy who just voted for Gary Johnson.

I have a feeling today is gonna be a fun day.
 
2012-11-06 06:44:24 AM
I encourage Republicans to stay home as well.
 
2012-11-06 06:48:57 AM
Happy Hours:
But it seems he likes his power. He likes using drones to take out American citizens without resorting to the inconveniences of trials.

Reading your posts as they progressed through this topic was enlightening. At first, I thought you had reasonable humanitarian criticism of the Obama Administration. Then, when we got to this line, I realised that you actually believe Barack Obama to be some kind of Bond villain who revels in megalomania and bloodshed. Not, as some of us suspect, a man whose good intentions were subverted by the huge military pressures that came with his position.

I will say, for someone who's trying to break out of political dichotomies, you're sure doing a good job of buying into moral ones.
 
2012-11-06 07:14:55 AM
I vote for Radio Button. He runs for every office, but never seems to win
 
2012-11-06 07:16:01 AM

quatchi: Happy Hours: ...my vote has more of a chance of swaying the election.

Said the guy who just voted for Gary Johnson.


Well, like I said, if Obama loses Colorado you can thank me.

I have a feeling the GOP's disaster analysis team will be asking themselves why they didn't get all those votes that went towards Johnson in Colorado and won't be so concerned about all the votes Johnson got in Texas.

If they could sway the Johnson voters in CO to vote for Republicans they might have a chance. In Texas, it doesn't ereally matter
 
2012-11-06 07:27:26 AM

Happy Hours: Well, like I said, if Obama loses Colorado you can thank me.


Gary Johnson drains off a few young naive pot head votes but the he also drains off the votes of old people too embarrassed to vote GOP and too conditioned to not vote Dem so my guess is that it'll end up a wash and GJ and his voters will have a minimal, practically nonexistent impact if they don't actually end up helping Obama by splitting the RW vote.

Just a guess, of course.
 
2012-11-06 07:28:11 AM
I love the peer pressure people are putting on each other to vote.

I don't like or support any candidates, ergo, I'm not voting. I won't vote because I feel it does much more harm than good to vote for the 'lesser of two evils' (a phrase I hear quite a bit around election season). I won't vote because it's my right to make that choice (abstain). I won't vote because I understand that politicians will view any vote as support of their entire platform, not just a particular portion that I happen to agree with.

While I would prefer that some individuals I've spoken with wouldn't vote, I can respect another's decision to vote even if they won't respect mine not to vote. I don't have to agree with your reasons, you don't have to agree with mine.

I really don't agree with the pressures people put on each other to vote.
 
2012-11-06 07:31:36 AM
I get "I've made a choice, but It's mine, and I'm not telling you" but I don't get, "Yeah, we've had information for months, if not more, and I can't make a decision. Tee hee."
 
2012-11-06 07:34:13 AM
I was going to vote for Obama, but gasoline is still above $3.20 a gallon where I live. If he got it below $2.00, I was going to do it, but oh well...

Vote Hart. He was the only one who actually found hot chicks to do it with.
 
2012-11-06 07:34:21 AM
I just had a coworker tell me he was going to go vote and "make the whitehouse white again".

GOP, not racist, but #1 with racists.
 
2012-11-06 07:45:34 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "I haven't decided yet" is a polite way of saying, "none of your business."


or "im voting for Romney because I tried to move past 140 years of familial racial tensions and voted for obama last time to move things forward and all I got in return was called a racist on Fark every time I didnt agree with him. I cant SAY that though, so I will say undecded"

If Romney wins, it will be because Obama supporters lacked the ability to move forward as a country. No one will tell you that, but I just did.

Not Obama, mind you, he didn't play that card, y'all did.
 
2012-11-06 07:46:57 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "I haven't decided yet" is a polite way of saying, "none of your business."


I see this is covered.
 
2012-11-06 07:51:03 AM

DeathByGeekSquad: I love the peer pressure people are putting on each other to vote.

I don't like or support any candidates, ergo, I'm not voting. I won't vote because I feel it does much more harm than good to vote for the 'lesser of two evils' (a phrase I hear quite a bit around election season). I won't vote because it's my right to make that choice (abstain). I won't vote because I understand that politicians will view any vote as support of their entire platform, not just a particular portion that I happen to agree with.

While I would prefer that some individuals I've spoken with wouldn't vote, I can respect another's decision to vote even if they won't respect mine not to vote. I don't have to agree with your reasons, you don't have to agree with mine.

I really don't agree with the pressures people put on each other to vote.


Please explain (and not using Fox News as your news source) how Obama could even remotely be considered "evil", lesser or not.

/yeah, yeah, I know he is black already, that doesn't count as a reason for me, maybe it does for you and 40+% of America though
 
2012-11-06 07:51:23 AM

Happy Hours: snuff3r: Happy Hours: This is the first time voting for president since the '80s that I was really torn.

_sigh_

Why? Is Obama the perfect candidate? Should I have been more torn in presidential elections in prior years?

I'm not sure if you read what I said, but I wasn't torn between Obama and Romney. For me it was a choice of "Not Romney" and a candidate who more closely mirrored my political views.

Hopefully when Romney loses they'll look at all the votes for 3rd parties and realize they should listen to those of us who refuse to pledge allegiance to a particular political party. Hopefully the Democrats will do the same. Unaffiliated voters where I live far outnumber those who are registered Democrats or Republicans.

I cast votes for Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians. If you're one of those people who votes a straight party ticket, you're a huge part of the problem.


Actually your vote made Romney a more likely President. So you didn't vote against him, you helped him quite a bit.
 
2012-11-06 07:58:55 AM

Happy Hours: snuff3r: Happy Hours: This is the first time voting for president since the '80s that I was really torn.

_sigh_

Why? Is Obama the perfect candidate? Should I have been more torn in presidential elections in prior years?.


If you're waiting for the perfect candidate, I have news for you: The only person who will qualify for that position resides in a mirror.

Nobody will ever mirror your views, you vote for the best interests of the nation you reside in.

/vote for whomever you want, just saying...
 
2012-11-06 08:03:05 AM

quatchi: Happy Hours: Well, like I said, if Obama loses Colorado you can thank me.

Gary Johnson drains off a few young naive pot head votes but the he also drains off the votes of old people too embarrassed to vote GOP and too conditioned to not vote Dem so my guess is that it'll end up a wash and GJ and his voters will have a minimal, practically nonexistent impact if they don't actually end up helping Obama by splitting the RW vote.

Just a guess, of course.


I would love to vote for a Republican for president, just not Romney and unfortunately he was probably the best of all his opponents in the primaries (e.g. Santorum, Perry, Bachman, Gingrich).

If I'm embarrassed to vote Republican for president it's because they failed to produce any candidates I could support.

I've voted for Democrats before. I've even voted for Democrats in presidential elections before so it's not that I'm " too conditioned to not vote Dem". It's hard to say how Johnson voters would split if they had to choose between Romney and Obama. It's easy to say it's a wash, but you have nothing to back that up.

robotpirateninja: Actually your vote made Romney a more likely President. So you didn't vote against him, you helped him quite a bit.


Are you a farking moran? I already acknowledged that. By "Not Romney" I meant Obama. Was that not obvious to you? 

Let me repeat what I said earlier. I was very tempted to vote for Obama because I really don't want Romney in the White House.

Should I type that more slowly so it can sink in?

But I decided that I could not in good conscience vote for an asshole that I didn't believe in so despite running the risk of handing the election to Romney I voted for Gary Johnson.
 
2012-11-06 08:07:27 AM

Happy Hours: I would love to vote for a Republican for president


You did. He was just waving a Libertarian flag out of convenience. You voted for a carpetbagging coward.
 
2012-11-06 08:09:08 AM

jaylectricity: If you really are undecided, consider going to the booth, get your ballot and insert it blank into the machine. It shows that you cared enough to vote, but did not care for any of the candidates.


Here in Tennessee we have a guy who legally changed his name to "None Of The Above"
 
2012-11-06 08:15:36 AM
I will admit, it's difficult to vote for the guy who supports the NSA intercepting every communication through North America, most of Europe, and half of Asia, and it's rather tough to vote for the other guy who supports the same thing.

For those who don't understand why I would oppose this, I would simp
 
2012-11-06 08:20:01 AM

AdmirableSnackbar: Happy Hours: I would love to vote for a Republican for president

You did.


Perhaps

He was just waving a Libertarian flag out of convenience.

Really? You think he ran on a Libertarian ticket out of "convenience"?

You voted for a carpetbagging coward.

A coward? He knows he won't win. I know he won't win. Standing up for your beliefs in the face of certain defeat is cowardice? 

The incumbent for the at large position for Board of Regents for University of Colorado claimed that he was apolitical and he ran as a Democrat because it brought him support. That's farking cowardice. That's choosing a party out of convenience. He did make a good point though - hardly anyone is going to research the candidates for Board of Regents for a state-run university and thus his re-election largely depends on which party has the highest voter turnout.

He'll probably be re-elected, but it was very close last time for him.  I'd love to see an exit poll based on that race.

Who did you vote for for Board of Regents?

I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of voters don't even know his name. They saw a D or an R next to the name and voted accordingly.
 
2012-11-06 08:21:49 AM

I sound fat: BarkingUnicorn: "I haven't decided yet" is a polite way of saying, "none of your business."

or "im voting for Romney because I tried to move past 140 years of familial racial tensions and voted for obama last time to move things forward and all I got in return was called a racist on Fark every time I didnt agree with him. I cant SAY that though, so I will say undecded"

If Romney wins, it will be because Obama supporters lacked the ability to move forward as a country. No one will tell you that, but I just did.

Not Obama, mind you, he didn't play that card, y'all did.


This is a ridiculous meme.

When people disagree with Obama just because they don't like him? Then I call racism. The man is likeable. Even Chris Christie, a very vitriolic anti-Obama campaigner, agrees with me there.

I don't see people calling people racist for disagreeing with Obama. People get called racist for unquestioningly disagreeing with everything he does for no apparent reason.
 
2012-11-06 08:27:44 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "I haven't decided yet" is a polite way of saying, "none of your business."


My response is, "I don't discuss politics."

/except on fark of course
 
2012-11-06 08:32:07 AM
I'm a Democrat and my voting technique is to begin by pulling the straight party lever, then reversing my vote on individual races depending on my personal of the candidate. I won't totally reject the other guy but he better have a convincing argument.
 
2012-11-06 08:33:35 AM

I sound fat: If Romney wins, it will be because Obama supporters lacked the ability to move forward as a country. No one will tell you that, but I just did.


No one will tell you that because it's doesn't make a lick of sense. But you just did.
 
2012-11-06 08:36:12 AM

Happy Hours: The Great EZE: I see what your problem is. Unlike most third-party voters, you understand how Congress works and how even the most idealist President can be forced to sign bills he or she doesn't agree with.

Unlike you, I understand how principles work.

Let's say I have a gun pointed at your mother and I say I'm going to shoot her. I ask you to sign a piece of paper saying you're okay with that. It doesn't matter whether or not you sign it, I'm going to shoot her. Do you sign the piece of paper?


I have principles. If you don't like them; I can have others.
 
2012-11-06 08:38:37 AM
I came in here for some clarity, but this thread has muddied the waters even more.

Where is a great political meme to sway me when I need one?

Hurry, I'm voting this afternoon!
 
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