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(Talking Points Memo)   Arizona Senate candidate Jeff Flake (R) says it was totally an honest mistake that his campaign placed robocalls to Democrats informing them of incorrect polling places   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 106
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2012-11-05 02:41:08 PM
You were cool once, Jeff. F you.
 
2012-11-05 02:42:40 PM
I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.
 
2012-11-05 02:48:44 PM
At what point can we just start throwing these asshats in jail?
 
2012-11-05 02:54:24 PM
Secede and take Texas with you.

Sorry, New Mexico. Collateral damage.
 
2012-11-05 02:54:27 PM
But Flake's campaign responded on Monday morning, saying it placed 120,000 robocalls this weekend targeting Republicans, not Democrats.

Funny how they don't seem concerned they just misinformed so many Republicans, possibly losing a lot of votes.
 
2012-11-05 02:56:39 PM
What is this crime called? Lots of my friends have been receiving similar robocalls.
 
2012-11-05 03:02:12 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


So Register as a Republican. Not sure how that affects the primary, but at least you'd be able to vote in the actual election.
 
2012-11-05 03:06:41 PM
I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.
 
2012-11-05 03:18:30 PM

Nadie_AZ: You were cool once, Jeff. F you.


I wrote to him about SOPA/PIPA, and it was nice to get a response. But too bad it was in support of the bill, so no vote from me Jeff.
 
2012-11-05 03:52:07 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


How the fark can we now throw these people in jail for life? That is pure treason.
 
2012-11-05 04:00:15 PM

ShawnDoc: Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.

So Register as a Republican. Not sure how that affects the primary, but at least you'd be able to vote in the actual election.


Or register as unaffiliated? I guess if you really desperately want to vote in the Democratic primaries...
 
2012-11-05 04:05:51 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


I'm registered as a Dem in AZ. That only happened to me once, but they said it was because I had signed up for voting by mail but decided to vote in person instead, and they couldn't verify that I wasn't voting twice. (My toddler son had used my mail-in ballot as a coloring book.) I did notice that all those nice old lady poll workers all wear matching red shirts on election day.
 
2012-11-05 04:07:24 PM

GAT_00: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

How the fark can we now throw these people in jail for life? That is pure treason.


I'm sure it was an honest mistake. A mistake they only made at registered democrats houses. Farkers.
 
2012-11-05 04:24:38 PM
Sadly it looks like Flake is going to win. I think I've only seen one ad where he actually speaks to the camera (besides the "endorsing this ad" stuff). Flake has been hiding behind negative ads and endorsements the entire time. He was never "cool" as mentioned above, but he seemed to be a moral person who would rail against these tactics. Of course he never really had a difficult fight before this. Shows his true colors.
 
2012-11-05 04:39:15 PM
I sure hope Richard Carmona wins.
 
2012-11-05 04:45:18 PM

azmoviez: Sadly it looks like Flake is going to win. I think I've only seen one ad where he actually speaks to the camera (besides the "endorsing this ad" stuff). Flake has been hiding behind negative ads and endorsements the entire time. He was never "cool" as mentioned above, but he seemed to be a moral person who would rail against these tactics. Of course he never really had a difficult fight before this. Shows his true colors.


By 'cool', I meant that he seemed to be more or less a realish conservative. I could understand his views and respect them, even if I didn't agree. That really changed when he decided to go tea partier. I would not have voted for him before and certainly didn't this time.
 
2012-11-05 04:49:01 PM

Nadie_AZ: I meant that he seemed to be more or less a realish conservative


It's rather naive to think as such. You're in Arizona, you should know better.
 
2012-11-05 04:50:11 PM

violentsalvation: I sure hope Richard Carmona wins.


The problem is Carmona is an even bigger douche.
 
2012-11-05 04:50:30 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at Americans for Prosperity Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


FTFM
 
2012-11-05 04:51:22 PM
I'll try the "It was an honest mistake" the next time I commit a felony. I'm sure I'll be afforded the same deference as Mr. Flake by the police and courts.
 
2012-11-05 04:51:52 PM
Republicans: So Confident In Our Candidates We Allow Them to Mislead Voters!!
 
2012-11-05 04:52:31 PM
Jail. This shiat won't stop until people start going to jail.
 
2012-11-05 04:52:37 PM
Jeff Flake is Mormon, so we can all assume he's being honest. Come on, you guys! A Mormon never lies, he only makes honest mistakes.
 
2012-11-05 04:53:13 PM
Seriously, who needs to do voter suppression in Arizona?

Oh, wait, brown people can vote?!
 
2012-11-05 04:53:17 PM
All people who vote Republican do so with full knowledge that they are voting for the cowardly, the pitiful, and the stupid. If you don't want to be associated with cowardly, pitiful, stupid people, then don't vote Republican.
 
2012-11-05 04:53:26 PM
In the words of another famous Jeff: "You'll get over it."
 
2012-11-05 04:54:22 PM
Even TPM couldn't spin that to make it look like Flake was intentionally giving Democrats incorrect information. Sheesh people.
 
2012-11-05 04:57:43 PM
Here's an idea: Register as a republican and vote for who you want anyways.
 
2012-11-05 04:57:47 PM
By the way this excuse, and those around it, that we see in droves every single time there's any kind of conversation about anything, is a sign of the sickness endemic in America. You have enshrined in your nation this notion of acceptable failure, the idea that the greatest country in the world, with the greatest democracy ever, the shining city on the hill, can totally handle and accept fark-ups from people in high office. There is no dreadful shame associated with standing before the world and saying 'I'm not evil - I'm just so rockhumping stupid that I didn't realise what I was doing is wrong.' Ignorance of the law is excuse to these people, and the culture does not rally against the idea of recruiting, paying, and hiring these people with their admitted, embarassing failures hanging around their necks. This isn't negotiating trade with China - this is basic bookkeeping bullshiat, and as long as the culture seems to think 'Hee hee, paperwork is haaard,' you will continue to have these people, they will continue to do things that are conveniently exactly what they'd want to do, and they will continue to face no repercussions for it because the alternative is to expect some measure of intellect and ability from those people in whom you put the most sacred trust of safeguarding and guiding the future for tomorrow.
 
2012-11-05 04:58:32 PM

Cletus C.: Even TPM couldn't spin that to make it look like Flake was intentionally giving Democrats incorrect information. Sheesh people.


It's always an over zealous staffer. Whether it is or not.
 
2012-11-05 05:00:29 PM
They cheat in Arizona but it's a dry cheat.
 
2012-11-05 05:04:06 PM
Democrats: Accused by their opponents of making it too easy for people to vote
Republicans: Accused by their opponents of making it too difficult for people to vote

wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
2012-11-05 05:07:45 PM
Wow. It sounds like the entire election process is run like a third world bananarocracy in some states. It sure sucks to be you, arizona people.
 
2012-11-05 05:08:33 PM
I think someone should have an honest mistake with a lead pipe.
 
2012-11-05 05:08:34 PM

bulldg4life: Democrats: Accused by their opponents of making it too easy for people to vote
Republicans: Accused by their opponents of making it too difficult for people to vote

wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Pretty sure that one's provable.
 
2012-11-05 05:09:00 PM
We need to create a professional class of poll workers. It should be a federal job. This sh*t is too important to get left up to the parties.
 
2012-11-05 05:10:25 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


Keep those door hangers if you took them, or make a record of where you found them. It could be worth calling the DA's office to ask what you should do with any of those materials.
 
2012-11-05 05:10:25 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: We need to create a professional class of poll workers. It should be a federal job. This sh*t is too important to get left up to the parties.


Hear, hear.
 
2012-11-05 05:13:23 PM
I wonder if any human being has a mind sick and twisted enough to have designed the immense clusterfark of suck that is the American system of voting.

I'm actually surprised that two hundred years of malevolent actors and ineffective oversight spread over 50 states and countless counties could have produced something so absurd
 
2012-11-05 05:13:38 PM

Sasquatchuan: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

Keep those door hangers if you took them, or make a record of where you found them. It could be worth calling the DA's office to ask what you should do with any of those materials.


The person running the whole shebang took them.

It makes me sick.
 
2012-11-05 05:14:03 PM
Didn't they do this back in 2008 and 2010 as well?
 
2012-11-05 05:15:10 PM

kinkkerbelle: They cheat in Arizona but it's a dry cheat.


4.cdn.tapcdn.com
 
2012-11-05 05:15:20 PM

The Larch: I wonder if any human being has a mind sick and twisted enough to have designed the immense clusterfark of suck that is the American system of voting.

I'm actually surprised that two hundred years of malevolent actors and ineffective oversight spread over 50 states and countless counties could have produced something so absurd


It proves God exists. Unfortunately, it proves that the only God living in America is Coyote.
 
2012-11-05 05:16:38 PM

The Larch: I wonder if any human being has a mind sick and twisted enough to have designed the immense clusterfark of suck that is the American system of voting.

I'm actually surprised that two hundred years of malevolent actors and ineffective oversight spread over 50 states and countless counties could have produced something so absurd


What's the difference between America and yogurt?
 
2012-11-05 05:19:11 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: We need to create a professional class of poll workers. It should be a federal job. This sh*t is too important to get left up to the parties.


Yep. And the voter registration database should just be the national health care participant database, which should also be the database we use for the census and national identification cards.

Or maybe we can just let Arizona and Florida continue to wallow in the hell they created for themselves. Good luck, assholes.
 
2012-11-05 05:20:18 PM
Oh hey look. It's isolated incident #45678 of voter suppression.


But both sides are same.
 
2012-11-05 05:20:25 PM
As many problems as there are in AZ, they get one thing right: the Permanent Early Vote by Mail list.

Mailed my ballot 3 weeks ago, confirmed that it is being counted. No need to get in line ever.

Any Sonoran farkers not on this list needs to go to servicearizona.com and sign up.
 
2012-11-05 05:20:55 PM

CheetahOlivetti: Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.

I'm registered as a Dem in AZ. That only happened to me once, but they said it was because I had signed up for voting by mail but decided to vote in person instead, and they couldn't verify that I wasn't voting twice. (My toddler son had used my mail-in ballot as a coloring book.) I did notice that all those nice old lady poll workers all wear matching red shirts on election day.


Well damn. The Bloods will sign up anyone nowadays.
 
2012-11-05 05:26:57 PM

Epoch_Zero: What's the difference between America and yogurt?


Yoghurt has culture?
 
2012-11-05 05:29:11 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


Did you mail it directly in? Because then, that is f--king BS.

A former coworker of mine registered with someone purporting to be a employee of her university registering students during welcome week. She and all of her friends were informed they were not registered when election time came. And of course Michigan law at the time said to stay on your parent's health insurance you had to have your permanent address at their home... so none of them really wondered why they didn't get a voter card in the mail.

F--king stupid crap. Dirty f--king tricks.

/Independent registered voter who has helped more than one person explicitly voting against my candidate/ballot proposal get to the f--king polls to vote
//and helped countless others figure out where they go to vote
///because I have A F--KING CONSCIENCE
 
2012-11-05 05:30:56 PM
I am a registered Dem in Arizona, and did it through the DMV. The woman at the DMV was also a Dem, and was very happy that there were others. I never have had an issue. Yet.

I have already voted.

I went to Church on Sunday, and most of the people in my (UCC) church are Obama supporters. We know were are the minority. For now.
 
2012-11-05 05:31:27 PM

colithian: Didn't they do this back in 2008 and 2010 as well?


Oh someone always does it.

I canvassed in working class/kinda ghetto-ish areas of Ypsilanti, Michigan last weekend. 100 of my "doors" were in a 8 story mainly elderly and disabled people apartment complex.

I had at least half a dozen people tell me they were told the polls were the *second* Tuesday in November.

And we're not even a f--king battleground state.

crayfisher.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-05 05:35:04 PM

MooseUpNorth: Epoch_Zero: What's the difference between America and yogurt?

Yoghurt has culture?


Yessir

/leave it alone for 200 years and it develops a culture
//close enough
 
2012-11-05 05:37:45 PM
I'm pretty farking pissed with politicians getting a free pass for doing illegal activity under the guise of the "whoops, my bad" excuse.
I'm going to rob a bank, and if they catch me, I'll use this defense. But somehow, since I'm not rich, I doubt I'd get the same justice.
 
2012-11-05 05:37:47 PM

SilentStrider: At what point can we just start throwing these asshats in jail?


I honestly agree for such cases of misinformation that interferes with voting. There would be no "honest mistake" defense and jail would be mandatory. Maybe that would force people to be more careful.

If I kill somebody by running them over there are all sorts of things to consider in judging how guilty I am - did I intend to? Was I exercising all reasonable caution?

For the voting cases just allow no culpability defense.

Sadly this could be gotten around by hiring homeless guys as official scapegoats - they are given the final responsibility of checking campaign messaging and if there are errors they might enjoy the 3 hots and a clean bed.
 
2012-11-05 05:39:07 PM
That robocall came at midnight? That'd piss me off.
 
2012-11-05 05:43:40 PM

Nadie_AZ: By 'cool', I meant that he seemed to be more or less a realish conservative


Yeah, learned about him a few years ago when reading about the Flake Hour. He would call out individual representatives of both parties and then admonish them for the questionable earmarks they supported. A few articles noted that he was something of a thorn in the side of the Republican establishment. Appears those days are gone.


ScouserDuck: Carmona is an even bigger douche


I'm wary of anyone who has ever served as a head of a law enforcement department (he was a deputy sheriff and head of a SWAT division). I had my fill of left-wing police state folks when Janet Napolitano was in charge of the state.


This senate election appears to be the clichéd "douche vs. shiat sandwich" decision.
 
2012-11-05 05:56:21 PM
I wonder why it's always Democrats being told to vote in the wrong places on the wrong days. Surely it's just a coincidence.
 
2012-11-05 05:57:48 PM

kinkkerbelle: They cheat in Arizona but it's a dry cheat.


Ow.
 
2012-11-05 06:00:04 PM
I think he tried to hit on one of my girlfriends once at Casey Moore's. He was wearing an ironic NKOTB shirt in an attempt to be "hip".

/fcsb
 
2012-11-05 06:02:27 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Secede and take Texas with you.

Sorry, New Mexico. Collateral damage.


Nah, we can just a do a East-West Pakistan type thing.
 
2012-11-05 06:05:26 PM
"Again, this autodial was targeted to Republicans. Any Democrats who received the call (which in all likelihood was a small number) did so because of errant information in the database owing to circumstances like those detailed above."

so...why would a Republican robo-call his own voter base and point them towards the wrong polling place...?
 
2012-11-05 06:14:03 PM
I love the " A news release said campaign volunteers received fewer than a dozen calls questioning the information that was provided."

I would almost wager that number probably exceeds the number of people who try to vote twice or that would be caught by some of the new voter ID laws.
 
2012-11-05 06:17:26 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


In order to make that conclusion, you needed to have multiple people attempt to register as Democrats across the state, with a control group voting Republican to test for this so called corruption.

otherwise, it might not just be the people in power who are stupid, ya dig?
 
2012-11-05 06:17:33 PM
Jesus, the more I hear about this Canadian style of politics being introduced into America it makes me worry about the future. Slippery slope.
 
2012-11-05 06:22:17 PM
Get a rope.
 
2012-11-05 06:26:25 PM

Weaver95: "Again, this autodial was targeted to Republicans. Any Democrats who received the call (which in all likelihood was a small number) did so because of errant information in the database owing to circumstances like those detailed above."

so...why would a Republican robo-call his own voter base and point them towards the wrong polling place...?



His excuse illustrates he's either dangerously immoral or dangerously incompetent. Hooray America!!
 
2012-11-05 06:26:52 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


at some point, one of these offenses has got to be prosecutable. I suppose the DA will want to prove intent, but I think the fact that it seems to happen so regularly and nobody goes to jail is intent enough for me.
 
2012-11-05 06:30:24 PM
That kind of shiat should be a thousand dollar fine per Robocall. No ifs/ands/buts.
 
2012-11-05 06:33:42 PM

heinekenftw: Here's an idea: Register as a republican and vote for who you want anyways.


I would but I don't want to end up in one of those Obamoncentration Camps we're setting up for them after the election.

/oops, said too much
 
2012-11-05 06:39:39 PM
Arizona? Isn't that a furshure red state? Are they just keeping in practice?
 
2012-11-05 06:41:19 PM

Weaver95: "Again, this autodial was targeted to Republicans. Any Democrats who received the call (which in all likelihood was a small number) did so because of errant information in the database owing to circumstances like those detailed above."

so...why would a Republican robo-call his own voter base and point them towards the wrong polling place...?


Oh those overzealously incompetent staffers.
 
2012-11-05 06:48:27 PM

whidbey: That kind of shiat should be a thousand dollar fine per Robocall. No ifs/ands/buts.


well this guy is either dangerously incompetent (misdirecting his own voters by accident!? dude!) or he's attempting to cheat in a major election. either way, he's not someone who should be in office anymore.
 
2012-11-05 06:49:30 PM

Weaver95: whidbey: That kind of shiat should be a thousand dollar fine per Robocall. No ifs/ands/buts.

well this guy is either dangerously incompetent (misdirecting his own voters by accident!? dude!) or he's attempting to cheat in a major election. either way, he's not someone who should be in office anymore.


He'll probably be the VP pick for 2016, then.
 
2012-11-05 06:52:17 PM
At least the Pennsylvania races have been clean so far. well, so far as I've heard anyway. which, I grant you, doesn't mean a whole lot. But from my little part of it, things are going along as expected, with no evidence of GOP dirty tricks to date.
 
2012-11-05 06:54:41 PM
Much as I detest Flake, and voter suppresion,( the new republican hotness), does anyone else think this particular example might just actually have been a mistake?

I dunno. They get up to all sorts of shenanigans, but this one actually seems like a plausible mistake.

Oh, and welcome to my "AZ Farkers list" Stile4aly. and CheetahOlivetti.
The rest of you are already on it, I picked you up earlier.You know who you are.

I registered as an PND (party not designated) years ago and have never had any problems. Apparently the thinking is most PNDs in AZ are actually republicans. Almost enough to make me want to change my registration to Dem. Not enough, but almost.
 
2012-11-05 06:56:49 PM
Dont forget to Vote!

Remember Wisconsin!
 
2012-11-05 06:58:10 PM

Weaver95: well this guy is either dangerously incompetent (misdirecting his own voters by accident!? dude!) or he's attempting to cheat in a major election


Him or his cronies in the GOP establishment. I would assume the latter, as he could claim ignorance were somebody to open an investigation into the matter. Which would never happen, of course, as the offices that would do such an investigation are solidly Republican.
 
2012-11-05 07:01:19 PM

r1chard3: Arizona? Isn't that a furshure red state? Are they just keeping in practice?


Thing is, a lot of our more recent citizens are more blue than red, think transplanted NYers. So while the state overall is red, it is a much more purply shade than the redshirts are comfortable with. And there has been concerted efforts to engage the hispanic population, for god sakes, who will they allow to vote next?? (clutches pearls).
So yeah, last election I rarely saw any Obama stickers or signs. This year I am seeing way more than last time, and hardly any Romney stuff. And I live in Republican central. Its interesting.
Obama won't take the state, but in another few cycles we may no longer be considered as a sure fire red state.
This thought makes me happy.
 
2012-11-05 07:03:33 PM
As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...
 
2012-11-05 07:12:35 PM

Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...


As a fellow AZ native, I second this.
 
2012-11-05 07:15:39 PM

Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...


SolomonKing: Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...

As a fellow AZ native, I second this.


Wait, wait, so we're ALL on fark ?? Which is my brother and which is my sister??

Welcome to my AZ Farker list guys.
 
2012-11-05 07:30:11 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


Did you grab one? I'd take video starting at the street name and going directly to the door.
 
2012-11-05 07:30:11 PM

balancing act: Much as I detest Flake, and voter suppresion,( the new republican hotness), does anyone else think this particular example might just actually have been a mistake?


When it happens once, it's a mistake. When Republicans do it in races every single year, you're a fool if you think it's a mistake.
 
2012-11-05 07:46:53 PM

SolomonKing: Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...

As a fellow AZ native, I second this.


As a fellow AZ native, I third this.
 
2012-11-05 07:55:25 PM
bull and shiat this was done deliberately and i hope it is properly investigated.
 
2012-11-05 08:00:27 PM
Thoughts on Penzone? I figure he's screwed but might have a chance.

Arpaio's animal cruelty ad gets me every time.

/flake is douche
 
2012-11-05 08:05:13 PM
I'm also in favor of an Arizona tag.

/Phoenix fark party?
 
2012-11-05 08:08:12 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: colithian: Didn't they do this back in 2008 and 2010 as well?

Oh someone always does it.

I canvassed in working class/kinda ghetto-ish areas of Ypsilanti, Michigan last weekend. 100 of my "doors" were in a 8 story mainly elderly and disabled people apartment complex.

I had at least half a dozen people tell me they were told the polls were the *second* Tuesday in November.

And we're not even a f--king battleground state.


It's time to start taking direct action against voter suppression operatives.

Catch a few hanging false election day signs or handing out "make sure to pay your parking tickets" cards, etc. make an example of them.
 
2012-11-05 08:13:15 PM

RandyMarsh: Thoughts on Penzone? I figure he's screwed but might have a chance.

Arpaio's animal cruelty ad gets me every time.

/flake is douche


I can't get my hopes up, but maybe this time...
I saw a truck with PENZONE ! painted on the windows today... in Sun City...
 
2012-11-05 08:23:42 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: Sasquatchuan: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

Keep those door hangers if you took them, or make a record of where you found them. It could be worth calling the DA's office to ask what you should do with any of those materials.

The person running the whole shebang took them.

It makes me sick.


A friend of mine just posted on Facebook something along the lines of "election officials are asking all Obama supporters to vote on WEDNESDAY. Romney supporters should proceed with voting tomorrow as planned." He thinks he's being funny, but reading the crap in this thread, it's obvious that plenty of people take that next step and actually spread misinformation. It's disgusting. I wish I had a scan or photo of those door hangers to post to his thread.
 
2012-11-05 08:47:18 PM

Sasquatchuan: Runs_With_Scissors_: Sasquatchuan: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

Keep those door hangers if you took them, or make a record of where you found them. It could be worth calling the DA's office to ask what you should do with any of those materials.

The person running the whole shebang took them.

It makes me sick.

A friend of mine just posted on Facebook something along the lines of "election officials are asking all Obama supporters to vote on WEDNESDAY. Romney supporters should proceed with voting tomorrow as planned." He thinks he's being funny, but reading the crap in this thread, it's obvious that plenty of people take that next step and actually spread misinformation. It's disgusting. I wish I had a scan or photo of those door hangers to post to his thread.


I wish I'd kept one, or at least taken a picture. They were seriously for the next county over. Assholes.
 
2012-11-05 08:55:25 PM
Runs_With_Scissors_:
I wish I'd kept one, or at least taken a picture. They were seriously for the next county over. Assholes.

Well, for what it's worth, you did your part in canvassing, which is the best (non-violent) way to correct for this kind of misinformation and shenanigans, so thank you.
 
2012-11-05 09:20:43 PM
I'm a new transplant to AZ. After doing the research, I held my nose and voted Carmona. I did mail in ballot. The polling station here is the primary school, but they only have one booth and it's a huge pain in the neck.
 
2012-11-05 09:24:38 PM

Sasquatchuan: Runs_With_Scissors_:
I wish I'd kept one, or at least taken a picture. They were seriously for the next county over. Assholes.

Well, for what it's worth, you did your part in canvassing, which is the best (non-violent) way to correct for this kind of misinformation and shenanigans, so thank you.


I would honestly be a tiny bit worried I could be charged with theft.

That's the only thing that kept me from removing doorhangers with out and out flat lies about the candidate I was working to help yesterday.

At least they straight up didn't have a date for the polls. And at least the Republican candidate didn't bother to leave a single door hangers on any of the lower income condos across the street from the neighborhood straight up littered with them.
 
2012-11-05 10:00:36 PM

balancing act: Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...

SolomonKing: Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...

As a fellow AZ native, I second this.

Wait, wait, so we're ALL on fark ?? Which is my brother and which is my sister??

Welcome to my AZ Farker list guys.


Infobahn: SolomonKing: Walt_Jizzney: As one of 3 AZ natives, I officially ask for an "ARIZONA" tag...

As a fellow AZ native, I second this.

As a fellow AZ native, I third this.


RandyMarsh: I'm also in favor of an Arizona tag.

/Phoenix fark party?


It is about time for a PHX Metro Fark Party. I hereby volunteer Casey More's n Tempe or something in Downtown. Seamus McAffereys? 


PS - nice to confirm some local AZians
 
2012-11-05 10:08:06 PM

Walt_Jizzney: I hereby volunteer Casey More's n Tempe or something in Downtown. Seamus McAffereys?


Last party was at B.J.'s at the Chandler Fashion Center. West valley folks were a bit miffed. Something a little more central would be good. OTOH, the beer and brats over at Brat Haus in old town Scottsdale would be perfect for a party.
 
2012-11-05 10:08:35 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: We need to create a professional class of poll workers.


hey, i support working moms trying to go to law school as much as the next guy...
 
2012-11-05 10:12:27 PM

GAT_00: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

How the fark can we now throw these people in jail for life? That is pure treason.


Jail's too good for them. Plus, bullets are like a buck a box in Arizona.
 
2012-11-05 11:17:10 PM

Selena Luna: I'm a new transplant to AZ. After doing the research, I held my nose and voted Carmona. I did mail in ballot. The polling station here is the primary school, but they only have one booth and it's a huge pain in the neck.


Welcome to AZ, Selena Luna and thank you for voting against Flake.

I would love to get together for a Farkparty one of these days. I chickened out of the last one.
 
2012-11-05 11:38:16 PM
I too am a Zonie Democrat...I'm on the fence on this one. It's POSSIBLE that our transient, high-foreclosure citizenry just moves and transfers phone numbers enough that these numbers did belong to Repubs, and that they were in the right voting areas for the calls they received...

However, when you do a phone campaign, you always, ALWAYS have success logs showing the result of the number (this is how you filter out bad phone numbers)...I'd be curious to see such a log to see what names are tied to these phone numbers.

And...what the hell, when did the entire Democratic population of AZ join Fark???
 
2012-11-06 12:03:41 AM

Nadie_AZ: You were cool once, Jeff. F you.


Since when? He's always been a bit flaky.
 
2012-11-06 12:21:49 AM

lilbjorn: Jail. This shiat won't stop until people start going to jail.


THIS.

Can we stop complaining about this shiat and start doing something about it? Where is an AG with the balls to prosecute this crap?
 
2012-11-06 12:31:11 AM

Pincy: lilbjorn: Jail. This shiat won't stop until people start going to jail.

THIS.

Can we stop complaining about this shiat and start doing something about it? Where is an AG with the balls to prosecute this crap?


Well, ours is busy doing hit and run fender benders while he is out boffing his staff during lunch hours, so I doubt he is available.

Usurper4: I too am a Zonie Democrat...I'm on the fence on this one. It's POSSIBLE that our transient, high-foreclosure citizenry just moves and transfers phone numbers enough that these numbers did belong to Repubs, and that they were in the right voting areas for the calls they received...

However, when you do a phone campaign, you always, ALWAYS have success logs showing the result of the number (this is how you filter out bad phone numbers)...I'd be curious to see such a log to see what names are tied to these phone numbers.

And...what the hell, when did the entire Democratic population of AZ join Fark???


Supposedly they had records to show the initial complaintent had the same number as a listed member of the GOP here in Phoenix. Maybe it was innocent... Its just, when you keep doing things like this, it is hard to believe its still an accident.

Oh, and my mom is a Dem and definately not a Farker, so Im gonna go with -no, it just seems like it.
 
2012-11-06 09:58:18 AM

Pincy: lilbjorn: Jail. This shiat won't stop until people start going to jail.

THIS.

Can we stop complaining about this shiat and start doing something about it? Where is an AG with the balls to prosecute this crap?


WORD. This absolutely is treason.
 
2012-11-06 12:48:24 PM
I work with a hardcore republican poll worker in Arizona who hasn't admitted to any specific wrong doing. But has said she is too busy to work on any particular campaign but is able to spare a few days a year to work the polls and help the republicans win that way. She is a rabid teahadist, so right now my faith in a fair election in Arizona is very low.
 
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