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(Talking Points Memo)   Arizona Senate candidate Jeff Flake (R) says it was totally an honest mistake that his campaign placed robocalls to Democrats informing them of incorrect polling places   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 106
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2012-11-05 02:41:08 PM
You were cool once, Jeff. F you.
 
2012-11-05 02:42:40 PM
I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.
 
2012-11-05 02:48:44 PM
At what point can we just start throwing these asshats in jail?
 
2012-11-05 02:54:24 PM
Secede and take Texas with you.

Sorry, New Mexico. Collateral damage.
 
2012-11-05 02:54:27 PM
But Flake's campaign responded on Monday morning, saying it placed 120,000 robocalls this weekend targeting Republicans, not Democrats.

Funny how they don't seem concerned they just misinformed so many Republicans, possibly losing a lot of votes.
 
2012-11-05 02:56:39 PM
What is this crime called? Lots of my friends have been receiving similar robocalls.
 
2012-11-05 03:02:12 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


So Register as a Republican. Not sure how that affects the primary, but at least you'd be able to vote in the actual election.
 
2012-11-05 03:06:41 PM
I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.
 
2012-11-05 03:18:30 PM

Nadie_AZ: You were cool once, Jeff. F you.


I wrote to him about SOPA/PIPA, and it was nice to get a response. But too bad it was in support of the bill, so no vote from me Jeff.
 
2012-11-05 03:52:07 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


How the fark can we now throw these people in jail for life? That is pure treason.
 
2012-11-05 04:00:15 PM

ShawnDoc: Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.

So Register as a Republican. Not sure how that affects the primary, but at least you'd be able to vote in the actual election.


Or register as unaffiliated? I guess if you really desperately want to vote in the Democratic primaries...
 
2012-11-05 04:05:51 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


I'm registered as a Dem in AZ. That only happened to me once, but they said it was because I had signed up for voting by mail but decided to vote in person instead, and they couldn't verify that I wasn't voting twice. (My toddler son had used my mail-in ballot as a coloring book.) I did notice that all those nice old lady poll workers all wear matching red shirts on election day.
 
2012-11-05 04:07:24 PM

GAT_00: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

How the fark can we now throw these people in jail for life? That is pure treason.


I'm sure it was an honest mistake. A mistake they only made at registered democrats houses. Farkers.
 
2012-11-05 04:24:38 PM
Sadly it looks like Flake is going to win. I think I've only seen one ad where he actually speaks to the camera (besides the "endorsing this ad" stuff). Flake has been hiding behind negative ads and endorsements the entire time. He was never "cool" as mentioned above, but he seemed to be a moral person who would rail against these tactics. Of course he never really had a difficult fight before this. Shows his true colors.
 
2012-11-05 04:39:15 PM
I sure hope Richard Carmona wins.
 
2012-11-05 04:45:18 PM

azmoviez: Sadly it looks like Flake is going to win. I think I've only seen one ad where he actually speaks to the camera (besides the "endorsing this ad" stuff). Flake has been hiding behind negative ads and endorsements the entire time. He was never "cool" as mentioned above, but he seemed to be a moral person who would rail against these tactics. Of course he never really had a difficult fight before this. Shows his true colors.


By 'cool', I meant that he seemed to be more or less a realish conservative. I could understand his views and respect them, even if I didn't agree. That really changed when he decided to go tea partier. I would not have voted for him before and certainly didn't this time.
 
2012-11-05 04:49:01 PM

Nadie_AZ: I meant that he seemed to be more or less a realish conservative


It's rather naive to think as such. You're in Arizona, you should know better.
 
2012-11-05 04:50:11 PM

violentsalvation: I sure hope Richard Carmona wins.


The problem is Carmona is an even bigger douche.
 
2012-11-05 04:50:30 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at Americans for Prosperity Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


FTFM
 
2012-11-05 04:51:22 PM
I'll try the "It was an honest mistake" the next time I commit a felony. I'm sure I'll be afforded the same deference as Mr. Flake by the police and courts.
 
2012-11-05 04:51:52 PM
Republicans: So Confident In Our Candidates We Allow Them to Mislead Voters!!
 
2012-11-05 04:52:31 PM
Jail. This shiat won't stop until people start going to jail.
 
2012-11-05 04:52:37 PM
Jeff Flake is Mormon, so we can all assume he's being honest. Come on, you guys! A Mormon never lies, he only makes honest mistakes.
 
2012-11-05 04:53:13 PM
Seriously, who needs to do voter suppression in Arizona?

Oh, wait, brown people can vote?!
 
2012-11-05 04:53:17 PM
All people who vote Republican do so with full knowledge that they are voting for the cowardly, the pitiful, and the stupid. If you don't want to be associated with cowardly, pitiful, stupid people, then don't vote Republican.
 
2012-11-05 04:53:26 PM
In the words of another famous Jeff: "You'll get over it."
 
2012-11-05 04:54:22 PM
Even TPM couldn't spin that to make it look like Flake was intentionally giving Democrats incorrect information. Sheesh people.
 
2012-11-05 04:57:43 PM
Here's an idea: Register as a republican and vote for who you want anyways.
 
2012-11-05 04:57:47 PM
By the way this excuse, and those around it, that we see in droves every single time there's any kind of conversation about anything, is a sign of the sickness endemic in America. You have enshrined in your nation this notion of acceptable failure, the idea that the greatest country in the world, with the greatest democracy ever, the shining city on the hill, can totally handle and accept fark-ups from people in high office. There is no dreadful shame associated with standing before the world and saying 'I'm not evil - I'm just so rockhumping stupid that I didn't realise what I was doing is wrong.' Ignorance of the law is excuse to these people, and the culture does not rally against the idea of recruiting, paying, and hiring these people with their admitted, embarassing failures hanging around their necks. This isn't negotiating trade with China - this is basic bookkeeping bullshiat, and as long as the culture seems to think 'Hee hee, paperwork is haaard,' you will continue to have these people, they will continue to do things that are conveniently exactly what they'd want to do, and they will continue to face no repercussions for it because the alternative is to expect some measure of intellect and ability from those people in whom you put the most sacred trust of safeguarding and guiding the future for tomorrow.
 
2012-11-05 04:58:32 PM

Cletus C.: Even TPM couldn't spin that to make it look like Flake was intentionally giving Democrats incorrect information. Sheesh people.


It's always an over zealous staffer. Whether it is or not.
 
2012-11-05 05:00:29 PM
They cheat in Arizona but it's a dry cheat.
 
2012-11-05 05:04:06 PM
Democrats: Accused by their opponents of making it too easy for people to vote
Republicans: Accused by their opponents of making it too difficult for people to vote

wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
2012-11-05 05:07:45 PM
Wow. It sounds like the entire election process is run like a third world bananarocracy in some states. It sure sucks to be you, arizona people.
 
2012-11-05 05:08:33 PM
I think someone should have an honest mistake with a lead pipe.
 
2012-11-05 05:08:34 PM

bulldg4life: Democrats: Accused by their opponents of making it too easy for people to vote
Republicans: Accused by their opponents of making it too difficult for people to vote

wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Pretty sure that one's provable.
 
2012-11-05 05:09:00 PM
We need to create a professional class of poll workers. It should be a federal job. This sh*t is too important to get left up to the parties.
 
2012-11-05 05:10:25 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.


Keep those door hangers if you took them, or make a record of where you found them. It could be worth calling the DA's office to ask what you should do with any of those materials.
 
2012-11-05 05:10:25 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: We need to create a professional class of poll workers. It should be a federal job. This sh*t is too important to get left up to the parties.


Hear, hear.
 
2012-11-05 05:13:23 PM
I wonder if any human being has a mind sick and twisted enough to have designed the immense clusterfark of suck that is the American system of voting.

I'm actually surprised that two hundred years of malevolent actors and ineffective oversight spread over 50 states and countless counties could have produced something so absurd
 
2012-11-05 05:13:38 PM

Sasquatchuan: Runs_With_Scissors_: I was out yesterday reminding registered Democrats to vote and found several door hangers from the fine folks at American Crossroads informing people to be sure to vote at the wrong polling station - one that was 20 miles away and in a different county. Several other canvassers found the same thing.

I'm sure it was just a mistake.

Keep those door hangers if you took them, or make a record of where you found them. It could be worth calling the DA's office to ask what you should do with any of those materials.


The person running the whole shebang took them.

It makes me sick.
 
2012-11-05 05:14:03 PM
Didn't they do this back in 2008 and 2010 as well?
 
2012-11-05 05:15:10 PM

kinkkerbelle: They cheat in Arizona but it's a dry cheat.


4.cdn.tapcdn.com
 
2012-11-05 05:15:20 PM

The Larch: I wonder if any human being has a mind sick and twisted enough to have designed the immense clusterfark of suck that is the American system of voting.

I'm actually surprised that two hundred years of malevolent actors and ineffective oversight spread over 50 states and countless counties could have produced something so absurd


It proves God exists. Unfortunately, it proves that the only God living in America is Coyote.
 
2012-11-05 05:16:38 PM

The Larch: I wonder if any human being has a mind sick and twisted enough to have designed the immense clusterfark of suck that is the American system of voting.

I'm actually surprised that two hundred years of malevolent actors and ineffective oversight spread over 50 states and countless counties could have produced something so absurd


What's the difference between America and yogurt?
 
2012-11-05 05:19:11 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: We need to create a professional class of poll workers. It should be a federal job. This sh*t is too important to get left up to the parties.


Yep. And the voter registration database should just be the national health care participant database, which should also be the database we use for the census and national identification cards.

Or maybe we can just let Arizona and Florida continue to wallow in the hell they created for themselves. Good luck, assholes.
 
2012-11-05 05:20:18 PM
Oh hey look. It's isolated incident #45678 of voter suppression.


But both sides are same.
 
2012-11-05 05:20:25 PM
As many problems as there are in AZ, they get one thing right: the Permanent Early Vote by Mail list.

Mailed my ballot 3 weeks ago, confirmed that it is being counted. No need to get in line ever.

Any Sonoran farkers not on this list needs to go to servicearizona.com and sign up.
 
2012-11-05 05:20:55 PM

CheetahOlivetti: Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.

I'm registered as a Dem in AZ. That only happened to me once, but they said it was because I had signed up for voting by mail but decided to vote in person instead, and they couldn't verify that I wasn't voting twice. (My toddler son had used my mail-in ballot as a coloring book.) I did notice that all those nice old lady poll workers all wear matching red shirts on election day.


Well damn. The Bloods will sign up anyone nowadays.
 
2012-11-05 05:26:57 PM

Epoch_Zero: What's the difference between America and yogurt?


Yoghurt has culture?
 
2012-11-05 05:29:11 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to repeat what happened to me in Arizona.

I registered as a Democrat twice. In both cases when I went to vote -the workers there had no record of my registration and issued me a "provisional" ballot (i.e. my vote only counts in a runoff).

Arizona republicans are the epitome of corrupt.


Did you mail it directly in? Because then, that is f--king BS.

A former coworker of mine registered with someone purporting to be a employee of her university registering students during welcome week. She and all of her friends were informed they were not registered when election time came. And of course Michigan law at the time said to stay on your parent's health insurance you had to have your permanent address at their home... so none of them really wondered why they didn't get a voter card in the mail.

F--king stupid crap. Dirty f--king tricks.

/Independent registered voter who has helped more than one person explicitly voting against my candidate/ballot proposal get to the f--king polls to vote
//and helped countless others figure out where they go to vote
///because I have A F--KING CONSCIENCE
 
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