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(Think Progress)   Giuliani says Obama's response to Hurricane Sandy was "worse than Katrina", nothing at all like when Bush was president and shot down one of the airlines with his revolvers on 9/11   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 224
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2012-11-05 11:25:42 AM  
Katrina didn't respond to Hurricane Sandy at all.
 
2012-11-05 11:28:41 AM  
This is the same doofus who said that America had no terrorist attacks under Bush's watch.
 
2012-11-05 11:31:07 AM  
He's got a good point. I like that song "Walking on Sunshine" far more than I like hurricane relief.
 
2012-11-05 11:37:43 AM  
I didn't realize Obama did a flyover. what were all those pictures with Christie. a farking hologram?
 
2012-11-05 11:41:45 AM  

ManateeGag: I didn't realize Obama did a flyover. what were all those pictures with Christie. a farking hologram?


They've been dating. Most of those pictures were taken during a lunch date at Bennigan's.
 
2012-11-05 11:44:16 AM  
Chris Christie begs to differ.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 11:44:33 AM  
Heck of a job Rudy.
 
2012-11-05 11:45:09 AM  

vpb: Heck of a job 9/11 Rudy.


Now with more Rudy.
 
2012-11-05 11:45:56 AM  
Good trolling Rudy. I give you a 9 out of 11.
 
2012-11-05 11:54:42 AM  
We all knew the whargarbl would be wild and wooly today. It'll be a derp hurricane to make Sandy look like a spring shower.
 
2012-11-05 11:57:41 AM  
Giuliani has become no better that Rush, Hannity, and Coulter. A hack who gets paid to say whatever nonsense republitards with eat up.
 
2012-11-05 11:58:00 AM  
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy

/please STFU you cross-dressing twit
 
2012-11-05 12:00:11 PM  
Remember when he said there were no terrorist attacks from 2001-2009?

Good times.
 
2012-11-05 12:04:31 PM  

MrBallou: We all knew the whargarbl would be wild and wooly today. It'll be a derp hurricane to make Sandy look like a spring shower.


WE'VE GOT A CATEGORY 4 DERPICANE HERE
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 12:06:00 PM  
I think Bush shot down more than one airline by closing our airspace for so long.
 
2012-11-05 12:07:34 PM  
I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.
 
2012-11-05 12:29:21 PM  
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2012-11-05 12:32:00 PM  

I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.


My friends on SI don't.
 
2012-11-05 12:35:06 PM  
What a partisan douchebag.
 
2012-11-05 01:13:14 PM  
Rudy could have left a decent legacy for himself if he had kept his mouth shut after leaving office.
 
2012-11-05 01:19:02 PM  
He did such an awful job that his poll numbers went up.
 
2012-11-05 01:23:22 PM  
Don't be so quick to dismiss Rudy. The man knows his disasters.

Obviously there was 9/11, then came Katrina, and next was his presidential run.
 
2012-11-05 01:24:45 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Chris Christie begs to differ.


That's precisely why Giuliani said what he said. The Republicans think it damaged their man to have the country -- and, especially Chris Christie -- approve of the job Obama is doing, so they have to create a counter narrative. Especially in Florida.

So, the Romney campaign, I suspect, put Giuliani up to this. Why do you think he first made the comments at a Romney campaign office IN FLORIDA? And, of course, being the sleazy, worthless partisan that he is, he jumped at the chance.
 
2012-11-05 01:36:38 PM  
Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.
 
2012-11-05 01:46:35 PM  

Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.


Aaaand we're done here.

/24 posts??
 
2012-11-05 01:51:54 PM  
I can't believe I ever liked this guy.
 
2012-11-05 01:52:20 PM  

I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.


I imagine your imagination is pretty goddamn stupid.
 
2012-11-05 01:54:49 PM  
Noun, verb, 9/11.
 
2012-11-05 01:54:51 PM  

Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.


As a New Yorker, I have to agree. Nobody wanted to crap on Rudy at the time, but he had a number of security failures in regards to 9/11. His expert advisers told him one thing, and he decided to go a different direction. His legacy was fine though, and he shouldn't have poked at it. He became a Republican shill, and now the rose-colored glasses are coming off.
 
2012-11-05 01:55:44 PM  

Vodka Zombie: This is the same doofus who said that America had no terrorist attacks under Bush's watch.


Different dofus
 
2012-11-05 01:55:56 PM  

I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.


I worked for a Wall Street firm (Weiss, Peck & Greer at 1 NY Plaza) for 5 years, and had dozens of friends/co-workers who lived and live on Staten Island. I haven't seen a one of them complain about Obama relating to Hurricane Sandy over social media.

/CSB
//and yeah, your imagination sounds like a really sucky place.
 
2012-11-05 01:56:15 PM  
Wat?
 
2012-11-05 01:56:16 PM  
People forget that on 9/10 Rudy was probably the most hated man in NYC.
 
2012-11-05 01:56:43 PM  

Aarontology: Remember when he said there were no terrorist attacks from 2001-2009?

Good times.


George Stephanopodopolopodopopolous sure does.

/leaving satisifed
 
2012-11-05 01:57:00 PM  
Can someone please find the Daily Show screenshot of numeral "9" having sex with "11"? Been looking for ages.
 
2012-11-05 01:57:10 PM  
The northeast disagrees.
 
2012-11-05 01:57:28 PM  
I like the way that the right portrays Obama as a man who is simultaneously completly ineffectual, AND single-handedly ruining the country.

"Obama can't accomplish anything!"
followed by
"If we reelect Obama, he'll be able to ruin this nation!"
 
2012-11-05 01:57:42 PM  
Good money is on him retracting his statement on the 7th.
 
2012-11-05 01:59:18 PM  
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2012-11-05 01:59:56 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: People forget that on 9/10 Rudy was probably the most hated man in NYC.


I don't
He's just another of a long line of Italian-Americans who have insinuated themselves into politics for fun and profit.
Corrupt as a can of maggots, and dirtier than Lohan's skivvies.
Now, as far as his worth as a human being goes. . . I'd put him to the same test any real American would. Can he shovel shait and pull teat as good as any Messkin immigrant?
Sure he can do both, metaphorically, but can he actually put the callouses on his hands?
Of course not. He's never worked a day in his life.
 
2012-11-05 02:00:09 PM  
I'm going to be so happy when the partisan electoral BS is over and we can finally get on to the inevitable War On Christmas.

/happy holidays
 
2012-11-05 02:00:51 PM  
Giuliani once garnered some level of respect but ever since his joke of a campaign where his platform was only 9/11 he has become a joke of a derper on the same level as breitbart's rotting corpse.
 
2012-11-05 02:01:13 PM  
It's a thinkprogress link.
 
jvl
2012-11-05 02:01:46 PM  
All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.
 
2012-11-05 02:02:00 PM  

crab66: I can't believe I ever liked this guy.


He wasn't bad before the national office ambitions. He may have been a dimwit at times (most politicians are at some point), but he wasn't an idiotic a$$hole. He's so set on becoming, and staying, a national player now he'll do or say anything to get it.

This statement isn't just about damage control. How much you want to bet that Rudy get's a cushy cabinet job if Romney wins?
 
2012-11-05 02:03:27 PM  

vpb: Heck 9/11 of 9/11 a 9/11 job 9/11 Rudy.


9/11
 
2012-11-05 02:04:17 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: It's a thinkprogress link.


Did they misquote Rudy?
 
2012-11-05 02:04:18 PM  
Oh good lord. This doesn't even warrant a response.
 
2012-11-05 02:05:24 PM  
He's right. To him, Obama's response to Sandy was terrible. It made Democrats look good, and that's almost as bad as stealing forty cakes.
 
2012-11-05 02:05:56 PM  
Was it better than putting your OEM in the World Trade Center after the first attack in 1993, Rudy?
 
2012-11-05 02:06:02 PM  
Come on, it would have been easy enough to provide some form of shelter or relief for 20,000 people in Staten Island. Just find an empty sport's stadium somewhere or something...
 
2012-11-05 02:06:06 PM  
It was a terrible response. FEMA responded too quickly to this storm!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ex-fema-director-michael-brown-cr i ticizes-obama-reacting-202803013.html
 
2012-11-05 02:06:16 PM  

lennavan: Aarontology: Remember when he said there were no terrorist attacks from 2001-2009?

Good times.

George Stephanopodopolopodopopolous sure does.

/leaving satisifed


I don't spaek Greek, but I think you may have left off a "dopolus" on that one.
 
2012-11-05 02:06:54 PM  

Diogenes: Coming on a Bicycle: It's a thinkprogress link.

Did they misquote Rudy?


No, but they added a lot of intentionally vile adjectives.
 
2012-11-05 02:08:19 PM  

jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.


All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.
 
2012-11-05 02:08:51 PM  
FTFA
The President has been outstanding in this and so have the folks at FEMA." Ed Gillespie, a senior adviser to Mitt Romney's Presidential campaign, said Governor Romney had no quarrel with President Obama's handling of the situation.

But then again, Romney avoided saying anything about FEMA like the plague. Wonder why.
 
2012-11-05 02:09:11 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Diogenes: Coming on a Bicycle: It's a thinkprogress link.

Did they misquote Rudy?

No, but they added a lot of intentionally vile adjectives.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-05 02:09:16 PM  

vudukungfu: lennavan: Aarontology: Remember when he said there were no terrorist attacks from 2001-2009?

Good times.

George Stephanopodopolopodopopolous sure does.

/leaving satisifed

I don't spaek Greek, but I think you may have left off a "dopolus" on that one.



My bad. Seriously though, I lost all respect for George after that interview. I cant watch his Sunday morning This Week show anymore because of that exact moment.
 
2012-11-05 02:09:52 PM  
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he's just upset that something bad happened to New York and he doesn't get to be the center of attention anymore.
 
2012-11-05 02:10:04 PM  
I'm hardly an Obama fan, but I think he's done as well as anyone could. Rudy needs to shut up.
 
2012-11-05 02:11:00 PM  
I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him. Doesn't make it so. But I bet they agree.

Despite what some people in here were attempting to claim, Rudy would not have won his first term as mayor without the votes from Staten Island, votes that he got because he supported Staten Islanders attempts to break off from NYC and because it's own separate municipality. They didn't want to be part of NYC while it had a black mayor but dropped those attempts when Rudy became mayor. That race, a rematch between Rudy G and David Dinkins, ended up being close with Staten island making the difference in the election. Had SI not been a part of NYC, Dinkins would have won.
 
2012-11-05 02:11:24 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Coming on a Bicycle: Diogenes: Coming on a Bicycle: It's a thinkprogress link.

Did they misquote Rudy?

No, but they added a lot of intentionally vile adjectives.

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Wait, nevermind the crying child. Where? Where are these adjectives? The harshest word in that article is "terrible", and Rudy is the one who said it.
 
2012-11-05 02:12:12 PM  

zarberg: I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.

I worked for a Wall Street firm (Weiss, Peck & Greer at 1 NY Plaza) for 5 years, and had dozens of friends/co-workers who lived and live on Staten Island. I haven't seen a one of them complain about Obama relating to Hurricane Sandy over social media.

/CSB
//and yeah, your imagination sounds like a really sucky place.


To be fair, I have barely hear anything on the internet from friends in New York. Probably something to do with them barely having power.
 
2012-11-05 02:12:16 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Come on, it would have been easy enough to provide some form of shelter or relief for 20,000 people in Staten Island. Just find an empty sport's stadium somewhere or something...


Yeah, let's put the 20,000 people in a 7,000 capacity BASEBALL stadium for shelter from the storm.
 
2012-11-05 02:12:57 PM  

tom baker's scarf: oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg

he's just upset that something bad happened to New York and he doesn't get to be the center of attention anymore.


Lots and lots of this.
 
2012-11-05 02:12:58 PM  

Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.


Why he isn't in jail boggles my USA.
 
2012-11-05 02:13:39 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Diogenes: Coming on a Bicycle: It's a thinkprogress link.

Did they misquote Rudy?

No, but they added a lot of intentionally vile adjectives.



You were clutching your pearls when you typed this, weren't you?

/quick... to the fainting couches!
 
2012-11-05 02:15:31 PM  

Walker: [img.photobucket.com image 550x642]


SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING

/its all I can think of
 
2012-11-05 02:16:57 PM  

alaric3: Katrina didn't respond to Hurricane Sandy at all.


cdn.mdjunction.com
 
2012-11-05 02:17:47 PM  

ManateeGag: I didn't realize Obama did a flyover. what were all those pictures with Christie. a farking hologram?


It was Christie standing next to an empty chair. No hologram required.
 
2012-11-05 02:19:34 PM  
thepoliticalcarnival.net
 
2012-11-05 02:19:40 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Good trolling Rudy. I give you a 9 out of 11.


Nice.

/People still listen to Rudy because he goes to 9/11.
 
2012-11-05 02:20:04 PM  

MindStalker: zarberg: I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.

I worked for a Wall Street firm (Weiss, Peck & Greer at 1 NY Plaza) for 5 years, and had dozens of friends/co-workers who lived and live on Staten Island. I haven't seen a one of them complain about Obama relating to Hurricane Sandy over social media.

/CSB
//and yeah, your imagination sounds like a really sucky place.

To be fair, I have barely hear anything on the internet from friends in New York. Probably something to do with them barely having power.


I know, it's a shame there aren't handheld devices that can somehow connect wirelessly to certain types of towers that were among the first to get generators.
 
2012-11-05 02:20:31 PM  

Walker: [img.photobucket.com image 550x642]


Responses I get from Republicans whenever I bring up these 2 instances of Bush's "what, me worry?" attitude during calamity:

9/11: Bush was trying to "project calm." (this was the official, or Rovian statement as to why he sat there). To whom was he projecting calm? 23 grade school kids who had no idea what was going on outside their classroom? If the president had walked out with "excuse me, kids, I need to look after something really important" I think would have made a better impression of presidenting than stony silence for 9 minutes, then learning later of what was going on, and growing up to realize Bush was an incompetent.

Katrina: Not Bush's problem. Not the federal government's problem, except that, okay, it was. But the state didn't fill out the right paperwork, so not Bush's problem. Oh, turns out that paperwork was not even necessary? Federal government by default is the lead responder in an incident of national significance. FEMA is bad, look at the morons running it. Why are you facepalming?
 
2012-11-05 02:21:55 PM  
Giuliani says Obama's response to Hurricane Sandy was "911 - worse than - NineEleventy - Katrina 9-11"

FTFY
 
2012-11-05 02:23:56 PM  
Yeah, Chris Christie sure looks pissed, right 9ui11iani?

www.usnews.com 

The right is morally bankrupt, and too cynical and two-faced to lead. Fark every politician who still puts an R next to his name.
 
2012-11-05 02:24:04 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.

My friends on SI don't.


Buffalo? 1984...so you're friends with Jason Walker? Yeah, he lost everything. Literally. We've all been pitching in and giving/offering support.
 
2012-11-05 02:24:11 PM  
Dont forget he wanted the first responder teams to the anthrax attack to go into the buildings in not enough protective gear cause it would look bad for the cameras
 
2012-11-05 02:24:23 PM  
Rudy has dementia now?
I did not know that.

/NINE ELEVEN! BENGHAZI! UNDERPANTS! CHEETOS!
 
2012-11-05 02:24:27 PM  

zarberg: I worked for a Wall Street firm (Weiss, Peck & Greer at 1 NY Plaza) for 5 years, and had dozens of friends/co-workers who lived and live on Staten Island. I haven't seen a one of them complain about Obama relating to Hurricane Sandy over social media.


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2012-11-05 02:25:05 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: People forget that on 9/10 Rudy was probably the most hated man in NYC.


This is true. I was willing to put aside other issues and support him after 9/11, but now I'm horrified that I ever thought he was kind of an OK guy.
 
2012-11-05 02:25:24 PM  

thurstonxhowell: All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.


That's what happens when you put someone in charge of an agency who knows what the fark they are doing instead of just being a large donor.
 
2012-11-05 02:29:21 PM  
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2012-11-05 02:29:30 PM  
 
2012-11-05 02:29:59 PM  
Well, tell Rudy I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fark up
 
2012-11-05 02:31:00 PM  

sidgates: Well, tell Rudy I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fark up


but not more than 16oz of coke.
 
jvl
2012-11-05 02:31:44 PM  

thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.


It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.
 
2012-11-05 02:33:59 PM  
jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.

It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.


Most of the subways are up and running, the only lines still not working are parts of the R and L trains.
 
2012-11-05 02:34:38 PM  

crab66: I can't believe I ever liked this guy.


He was good at letting the police go hog-wild beating up and shooting innocent black people because they were bla-
 
2012-11-05 02:35:45 PM  
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"Spewing this much derp gives me a farking headache!"
 
2012-11-05 02:35:59 PM  

Latinwolf: jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.

It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.

Most of the subways are up and running, the only lines still not working are parts of the R and L trains.


and there's no evidence that L train has ever worked
 
2012-11-05 02:37:38 PM  
Shill, baby, shill!
 
2012-11-05 02:37:56 PM  
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2012-11-05 02:38:29 PM  

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2012-11-05 02:44:52 PM  

thecpt: sidgates: Well, tell Rudy I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fark up

but not more than 16oz of coke.


With the way Rudy spouts off so incoherently, I think the coke he prefers is measured in grams.
 
2012-11-05 02:45:00 PM  
i know! what is Obama doing about the hurricane threat! i demand an invasion of their spawning grounds! that'll show them for messin with merica! Cuba's nearby i suggest we invade there as well!
 
2012-11-05 02:45:16 PM  
Why he isn't in jail boggles my USA.

sooo Thiss

but like most things ..$$$$$
 
2012-11-05 02:45:27 PM  
Katrina: FEMA takes three days to show up at the Superdome.

Sandy: FEMA trucks arrive at a Red Hook housing project at 1PM the day after the storm has passed. Due to poor communication, some residents had been expecting the arrival at 7:30AM, and had spent the entire morning outside in brisk weather conditions.


Giuliani's right, FEMA is worse than a hundred Hitlers.
 
2012-11-05 02:46:29 PM  
I for one was PISSED OFF that Bush just sat in the kindergarten putting all the children at risk of some personal assination attempt on him, right there in the school.It was not out of the realm of possibilities.He just sat therer instead of jumping immediately up and asking for a command center to be set up in one room with SServ guys everywhere around him.LOSER; NIMWIT.What does this have to do with the thread here.Response people, it`s all a game of response.How do you respond??
 
2012-11-05 02:48:30 PM  

Diogenes: Rudy could have left a decent legacy for himself if he had kept his mouth shut after leaving office.


Someone never told him you never go full 9/11.
 
2012-11-05 02:48:53 PM  
No one has any idea what disaster relief is. They make it up and complain when the President doesn't personally talk to them and they don't get Red Cross trucks giving out free food and water the next day and why isn't FEMA all over the place and such. Then they think this is just like Katrina.

Katrina was a clusterfark beyond comprehension. This time it's pretty well-run. Not fantastic, but well run. I have a friend in FEMA. They are doing an absolutely insane amount of work here. Some folks just need patience, some folks really need help and yes, sometimes there's a gap and shame on everyone, etc, etc, but no large disaster is immune from that. Without FEMA, it's not like others would pick up the slack. FEMA cannot be replaced by anything except itself. The idea is to have them do their job properly.
 
2012-11-05 02:50:03 PM  
If he says it loudly and often enough it may become fact.
 
2012-11-05 02:50:27 PM  
lol. Worse then Katrina?

Are there STILL people stuck on the roofs of their houses while flood water surround them?

no?

Then it's not worse then Katrina.
 
2012-11-05 02:50:32 PM  

Diogenes: Rudy could have left a decent legacy for himself if he had kept his mouth shut after leaving office.


Jackpot

Unlike our grandparents who took part in the Big One and went on to age in dementia, Rudy will be remembered solely for his dementia.

Eh, not likely...
 
2012-11-05 02:51:01 PM  
I think we can all agree that whatever Obama does is wrong. If he'd stood outside New Jersey with a staff in hand and parted the waters like Moses in The Ten Commandments, he'd be lambasted for interfering with divine wrath.
 
2012-11-05 02:54:08 PM  

Vodka Zombie: This is the same doofus who said that America had no terrorist attacks under Bush's watch.


Christ, can't the guy get a mulligan? I mean COME ON.
 
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It took me a minute to get it. I thought Rudy was Tootie for a minute so I was lall ike "Tootie Yarmulke Bruce Ah Knee..

but then I got it....
 
2012-11-05 02:55:40 PM  

Vodka Zombie: This is the same doofus who said that America had no terrorist attacks under Bush's watch.


Well we did not. 9/11 That was all on Clinton. 
2008 Recession all on Obama.
 
2012-11-05 02:56:47 PM  

crab66: I can't believe I ever liked this guy.


I can't believe you ever liked this guy either.
 
2012-11-05 02:57:05 PM  
The federal governments response to any disaster will always be terrible. Its just the way it is.

They are not equipped to move as quick as victims think they should. If in 2 weeks you have received no aid, then you should complain, first 2 weeks are on you to provide for yourself.
 
2012-11-05 02:57:44 PM  
Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.
 
2012-11-05 02:58:36 PM  

barkingfarking: I for one was PISSED OFF that Bush just sat in the kindergarten putting all the children at risk of some personal assination attempt on him, right there in the school.It was not out of the realm of possibilities.He just sat therer instead of jumping immediately up and asking for a command center to be set up in one room with SServ guys everywhere around him.LOSER; NIMWIT.What does this have to do with the thread here.Response people, it`s all a game of response.How do you respond??


Response:
I like pizza and whiskey.
 
2012-11-05 02:58:38 PM  
This headline lost me at "Giuliani."
 
2012-11-05 02:59:20 PM  
 
2012-11-05 03:00:59 PM  
Good or bad, nothing short of the entire US military dropping whatever it was doing and heading to New York City was going to be good enough for Giuliani. Why? Because it's New York City.
 
2012-11-05 03:01:41 PM  

lennavan:
My bad. Seriously though, I lost all respect for George after that interview. I cant watch his Sunday morning This Week show anymore because of that exact moment.


hey, I got stuck in traffic this morning behind a car wtih VT plates that read [FLY 911] and I still can't figure out if they were vanity plates, or just plane (sic) issued that way.
 
2012-11-05 03:02:43 PM  

Shvetz: Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.

As a New Yorker, I have to agree. Nobody wanted to crap on Rudy at the time, but he had a number of security failures in regards to 9/11. His expert advisers told him one thing, and he decided to go a different direction. His legacy was fine though, and he shouldn't have poked at it. He became a Republican shill, and now the rose-colored glasses are coming off.


Don't forget his doing the Pantsless-Terry-Stop-Mambo in a secret love-nest with Judith Nathan while planes were screaming toward the WTC.

// half-remembered things, here
// someone help me out with this
 
2012-11-05 03:07:30 PM  

FloydA: He's got a good point. I like that song "Walking on Sunshine" far more than I like hurricane relief.


I like the song "New Orleans is Sinking" better than "Walking on Sunshine".
 
2012-11-05 03:09:42 PM  

o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.


aaaaaaaaand he derps it
 
2012-11-05 03:11:06 PM  
Because a dead person in a wheel chair outside the Superdome is a sign of Republican Success after a disaster.

michellemalkinisanidiot.com
 
2012-11-05 03:11:53 PM  

o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot.


"'Scuse me, kids, I got some presidentin' to do"
*exit to hallway*
Farking difficult, that!

The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

The fact that he sat there with a dumb look on his face, and then went back to reading a children's book made him look like an idiot. Made it look like our country was run by an idiot. Made America look like idiots. He didn't have to turn into Captain Texas and charge into battle, but it would've been nice if he did something.
 
2012-11-05 03:12:36 PM  

BitwiseShift: Because a dead person in a wheel LAWN chair outside the Superdome is a sign of Republican Success after a disaster.

[michellemalkinisanidiot.com image 259x384]


stupidlibtard.jpg
 
2012-11-05 03:13:50 PM  
Gales of Butthurt
 
2012-11-05 03:14:00 PM  

Mentalpatient87: o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot.

"'Scuse me, kids, I got some presidentin' to do"
*exit to hallway*
Farking difficult, that!

The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

The fact that he sat there with a dumb look on his face, and then went back to reading a children's book made him look like an idiot. Made it look like our country was run by an idiot. Made America look like idiots. He didn't have to turn into Captain Texas and charge into battle, but it would've been nice if he did something.


He isn't a texan.
 
2012-11-05 03:16:08 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Diogenes: Coming on a Bicycle: It's a thinkprogress link.

Did they misquote Rudy?

No, but they added a lot of intentionally vile adjectives.


I'm pretty sure they were intentional, correct, and deserved.
 
2012-11-05 03:20:53 PM  
When did Rudy Giuliani become relevant? Answer is NEVER.
 
2012-11-05 03:21:15 PM  
What Rudy really means is, "why haven't they taken this opportunity to put all the homeless and underprivileged onto buses and send them out of state?"
 
2012-11-05 03:21:24 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Shvetz: Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.

As a New Yorker, I have to agree. Nobody wanted to crap on Rudy at the time, but he had a number of security failures in regards to 9/11. His expert advisers told him one thing, and he decided to go a different direction. His legacy was fine though, and he shouldn't have poked at it. He became a Republican shill, and now the rose-colored glasses are coming off.

Don't forget his doing the Pantsless-Terry-Stop-Mambo in a secret love-nest with Judith Nathan while planes were screaming toward the WTC.

// half-remembered things, here
// someone help me out with this


And pushing to have a crony crook head Homeland Security.
 
2012-11-05 03:29:21 PM  

vudukungfu: hey, I got stuck in traffic this morning behind a car wtih VT plates that read [FLY 911] and I still can't figure out if they were vanity plates, or just plane (sic) issued that way.


Probably issued that way. VT plates increment the numbers up to 999, then increment the rightmost letter, carrying to the second letter when the rightmost rolls over from Z (i.e. AAA 999 -> AAB 000, AAZ 999 -> ABA 000, AZZ 999 -> BAA 000, and so on). They're currently issuing the later Fxx plates (I've seen FTN on the road), so that plate was probably issued in late 2010 or early 2011.
 
2012-11-05 03:29:23 PM  
Wow, this is critical stuff. I wonder what the current Republican Mayor of New York City thinks of Obama's response?

cdn.videos.bloomberg.com

Oh ... this is bad news. FOR FARTBONGO!!!!
 
2012-11-05 03:30:05 PM  
THINK PROGRESS link

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-05 03:30:15 PM  

PreMortem: Giuliani has become no better that Rush, Hannity, and Coulter. A hack who gets paid to say whatever nonsense republitards with eat up.


True, but unlike the other hacks, Giuliani stands a good chance of catching some "zombie apocalypse" type justice if he keeps running his mouth and sets foot back in NYC. As they enter another night of dark, cold, hungry discomfort, they are going to start wondering why Rudy is on TV bad mouthing the people bringing in help instead of stepping up and helping to raise money.
 
2012-11-05 03:31:10 PM  

BitwiseShift: Because a dead person in a wheel chair outside the Superderp is a sign of Republican Success after a disaster.


Did you have trouble getting that wheelchair through the screen door of your submarine?
 
2012-11-05 03:32:57 PM  
coont
 
2012-11-05 03:33:24 PM  
Another troll from the guy who forced the location of the emergency command center into Manhattan from Brooklyn, which was a far more logical place a terrorist attack would not have taken place. The relocated place had experienced an attack less than a decade earlier.

And this is not even beginning to discuss that little radio problem.

This video is from 2007, but worth revisiting every time Rudy starts his chest puffing.

International Association of Fire Fighters video about Giuliani and 9/11. (youtube)
 
2012-11-05 03:35:55 PM  

o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.


Which was not what the person you responded to was proposing. Do you not understand the concept of a measured response, where Bush could have, as in the example, politely have excused himself to go off and do presidential things, and the total lack of response he exhibited instead?
 
2012-11-05 03:36:17 PM  

hammettman: Katrina: Not Bush's problem. Not the federal government's problem, except that, okay, it was. But the state didn't fill out the right paperwork, so not Bush's problem. Oh, turns out that paperwork was not even necessary? Federal government by default is the lead responder in an incident of national significance. FEMA is bad, look at the morons running it. Why are you facepalming?


I absolutely love how Republicans, defenders of the Free World from the evil red-tape monster of Big Government, are *still* (7 years later) blaming local officials for not filling out "paperwork" correctly, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
 
2012-11-05 03:37:38 PM  
Hey Giuliani. I don't recall an election where we chose someone to be "America's Governor". Please do not use the term any more.

Now, Sajak. About that "America's Game" moniker. Because you're a former 71R, I'm a-gonna cut you a little slack. Send Vanna out in a very short skirt and her hands up and no one gets hurt.
 
2012-11-05 03:38:40 PM  
www.global-air.com

The 9/11 attack on New York made Rudolph Guiliani a very wealthy man. (new window)
 
2012-11-05 03:41:36 PM  
fark you Rudy. Your boy Keric is in jail right now and you should be, too. fark you right in your farking horse faced smile, you farking fark.
 
2012-11-05 03:43:48 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I like the way that the right portrays Obama as a man who is simultaneously completly ineffectual, AND single-handedly ruining the country.

"Obama can't accomplish anything!"
followed by
"If we reelect Obama, he'll be able to ruin this nation!"


That just shows how our politicians are superior to yours. Our last president was both a mouth-breathing retard and an evil mastermind. Our politicians are so bad ass that they are above mutually exclusive concepts. You only wish yours were as cool.
 
2012-11-05 03:46:12 PM  
i'll just leave these few nine eleven election tips here 


/just leavin' the tip
//try the veal
 
2012-11-05 03:47:18 PM  
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(Emergency occurs in major Democrat-voting area.)

Obama: CUT THE RED TAPE*!!!


*that my party has championed since forever*
 
2012-11-05 03:47:37 PM  

Girion47: Mentalpatient87: o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot.

"'Scuse me, kids, I got some presidentin' to do"
*exit to hallway*
Farking difficult, that!

The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

The fact that he sat there with a dumb look on his face, and then went back to reading a children's book made him look like an idiot. Made it look like our country was run by an idiot. Made America look like idiots. He didn't have to turn into Captain Texas and charge into battle, but it would've been nice if he did something.

He isn't a texan.


He's a Yale legacy, clearly a NE upperclass twit. How does that contradict the meat of the statement? Should "'Scuse me, kids, I got some presidentin' to do" have been written in Charles Emerson Winchester 3 voice? Given Bush's habit of pretending to be Texan, I think not.

On another note:
http://www.fark.com/comments/7410559/FEMA-works-under-Democratic-Pres i dents-fails-under-Republican-Presidents-because-Democrats-appoint-prof essionals-to-run-it-Republicans-appoint-Republicans
 
2012-11-05 03:47:37 PM  
The secret CIA weather machine is still secret.
 
2012-11-05 03:54:19 PM  
"Excuse me, kids, a President's work is never done. I'll be back."
 
2012-11-05 03:55:57 PM  

Girion47: He isn't a texan.


Thank you. Thank you so much for pegging out the two most unimportant words in that post, the Robot Chicken reference that they were, and trying to use them against me. It must be a real treat trying to hold a normal conversation with you.
 
2012-11-05 04:00:25 PM  

Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.


Came to say this, leaving with my faith in humanity's ability to remember history slightly restored.

shroom: I absolutely love how Republicans, defenders of the Free World from the evil red-tape monster of Big Government, are *still* (7 years later) blaming local officials for not filling out "paperwork" correctly, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.


Louisiana has a long and storied history of keeping the feds out at all costs, mostly a remnant of reconstruction, but either way they're basically America's Greece. That they would fail to meaningfully cooperate with federal intervention and for sure wouldn't coordinate in advance isn't exactly surprising. Note that Katrina itself wasn't unprecedented, New Orleans has been put underwater something like four times in the last century because they continually block federal efforts to bring the levee system up to code on general principle (the principle being "fark the feds").

Basically "didn't fill out the paperwork" is probably a nice way of saying "actively obstructed our efforts at every turn". So to an extent I'd believe FEMA's explanation for why their response was a couple days slower than usual.

//If you're thinking "no, why would anyone do that? That's stupid, you're stupid!" Then congratulations on never having lived in or had family in Louisiana. No, seriously, good job, you should keep that up, it's a terrible place.
 
2012-11-05 04:03:35 PM  

Latinwolf: jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.

It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.

Most of the subways are up and running, the only lines still not working are parts of the R and L trains.


And the G (if that counts as a train)
 
2012-11-05 04:15:32 PM  
Both Mauro Giuliani and Mike Bloomfield should just stick to their guitar playing.
 
2012-11-05 04:15:51 PM  

PreMortem: Giuliani has become no better that Rush, Hannity, and Coulter. A hack who gets paid to say whatever nonsense republitards with eat up.


Squeal you little liberal pussies. Showing up is not helping. Rudy is right. Go worship somewhere else besides your Obama altar. Losers one and all.
 
2012-11-05 04:18:07 PM  
jvl

Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA.

Wait a second... haven't you spent the last 3.5 years telling us that this president (obama) isn't responsible for folks he appoints to leadership rolls?

So pick a side and one side only. Are presidents responsible for appointees or not?
 
2012-11-05 04:18:10 PM  
Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.
 
2012-11-05 04:18:30 PM  
Mitt Romney had all the momentum. Obama was going down. Then hurricane Sandy hit, flooded New York, knocked out power. And, according to the media over the weekend, propelled Obama to an election victory.

Hurricane Sandy saved Obama. Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.
 
2012-11-05 04:25:05 PM  
Rudy, your 15 minutes are up. Go away.
 
2012-11-05 04:25:05 PM  

SlothB77: Mitt Romney had all the momentum. Obama was going down. Then hurricane Sandy hit, flooded New York, knocked out power. And, according to the media over the weekend, propelled Obama to an election victory.

Hurricane Sandy saved Obama. Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election a swift reaction to a disaster, making appropriate use of Federal resources under whatever agencies' charters to assist in local response and recovery efforts.


Weird how we both stated facts, yet only one such statement reflects that a president reacts to weather conditions rather than creating them.
 
2012-11-05 04:28:44 PM  

legalgus: libera messiah libs


That's all three! DRINK!
 
ecl
2012-11-05 04:29:00 PM  
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2012-11-05 04:30:13 PM  

SlothB77: Mitt Romney had all the momentum. Obama was going down. Then hurricane Sandy hit, flooded New York, knocked out power. And, according to the media over the weekend, propelled Obama to an election victory.

Hurricane Sandy saved Obama. Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.


The states most affected were already blue. His performance with regard to the storm was good, but I doubt good enough that it would sway undecideds in red and purple states.

Sounds to me you're making excuses to comfort yourself in the event of Romney's loss.
 
2012-11-05 04:33:51 PM  

jvl: It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.


I read a paper on disaster response. Comment was that things go sideways when the authorities response is to 'restore order' instead of 'help people self rescue' In all disasters people immediately self-organize rescue efforts, the job of responders to to assist that not hinder it.  You can pretty much see the difference between Katrina where incompetent Bush appointees tried to assert control and Sandy where efforts are to provide top down assistance. The latter works because efforts have to be bottom up to fix things which requires a high level autonomy.
 
2012-11-05 04:36:22 PM  

MindStalker: zarberg: I_C_Weener: I imagine those on Staten Island agree with him.  Doesn't make it so.  But I bet they agree.

I worked for a Wall Street firm (Weiss, Peck & Greer at 1 NY Plaza) for 5 years, and had dozens of friends/co-workers who lived and live on Staten Island. I haven't seen a one of them complain about Obama relating to Hurricane Sandy over social media.

/CSB
//and yeah, your imagination sounds like a really sucky place.

To be fair, I have barely hear anything on the internet from friends in New York. Probably something to do with them barely having power.


To be fair, I didn't have power and I had this miraculous thing called a cell phone that allowed me to see all of the internets in the dark!
 
jvl
2012-11-05 04:37:41 PM  

OnlyM3: jvl: Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA.

Wait a second... haven't you spent the last 3.5 years telling us that this president (obama) isn't responsible for folks he appoints to leadership rolls?


You appear to have me confused with someone else. Good luck finding that nut...
 
2012-11-05 04:38:52 PM  

o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.


ChipNASA: stupidlibtard.jpg


Clemkadidlefark: THINK PROGRESS link

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 644x388]


HAMMERTOE: Redtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtap e redtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtape redtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtape redtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtape redtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtape redtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtaperedtape ...

(Emergency occurs in major Democrat-voting area.)

Obama: CUT THE RED TAPE*!!!


*that my party has championed since forever*


legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.


SlothB77: Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.


Strong arguments from the Fark right.

tfsworship.com
 
jvl
2012-11-05 04:40:40 PM  

gibbon1: I read a paper on disaster response. Comment was that things go sideways when the authorities response is to 'restore order' instead of 'help people self rescue' In all disasters people immediately self-organize rescue efforts, the job of responders to to assist that not hinder it.  You can pretty much see the difference between Katrina where incompetent Bush appointees tried to assert control and Sandy where efforts are to provide top down assistance. The latter works because efforts have to be bottom up to fix things which requires a high level autonomy.


That sounds like a plausible theory. Time will tell if FEMA has learned anything new.

Hurricane Katrina was hardly FEMA's turn playing the part of national disgrace.
 
2012-11-05 04:41:11 PM  

legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.


If only there were a party practiced in curmudgeony diatribes couched in a professed yearning for a yesteryear that never existed. Wouldn't that be swell?
 
2012-11-05 04:43:36 PM  

Diogenes: Yes, Rudy. Please tell us about poor handling of emergencies. You should know something about it through your own glaring failures at it. Chief among them, relocating the emergency response command center in the World Trade Center in 1997, even though your director of emergency management recommended that you not put it there because it had been a target in 1993.


Bingo!
 
ecl
2012-11-05 04:43:58 PM  

Ilmarinen: o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

ChipNASA: stupidlibtard.jpg

Clemkadidlefark: THINK PROGRESS link

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 644x388]

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(Emergency occurs in major Democrat-voting area.)

Obama: CUT THE RED TAPE*!!!


*that my party has championed since forever*

legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.

SlothB77: Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.

Strong arguments from the Fark right.

[tfsworship.com image 840x630]


i368.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-05 04:44:18 PM  
I'm getting a kick out of this.

As I work in an office building that last week was completely dark, after commuting on a train that last week wasn't running at all from Brooklyn to Manhattan, with coworkers who lastw eek were indeed without power or transportation. And you know what? Considering everything, the response was fast and the recovery has been very, very good. Power has been restored to the vast majority of the city, the trains and busses are running with fairly intelligent changes to services where there are still issues, and... things are working well.

What the fark is Rudy or anyone else saying Obama or, well, anyone else should have done? Biggest storm to hit the city and biggest flood recorded in Manhattan, and the place is running again in a week (most neighborhoods sooner, many neighborhoods not losing power at all). What the fark is their problem?
 
2012-11-05 04:46:39 PM  

jvl: Time will tell if FEMA has learned anything new.

Hurricane Katrina was hardly FEMA's turn playing the part of national disgrace.


The hell?

Let's examine major American disasters since 1990, shall we? I'll put in bold all the times FEMA got royally biatchslapped for farking up the response, and I'll make smaller all the times they got high praise for their response (no formatting for those I can't remember positively or negatively):
-WTC (1993)
-OKC (1995)

-Florida hurricanes (1990-2012)
-Joplin tornadoes (2011)
-WTC (2001)

-Katrina (2005)
-Rita (2005)
-Sandy (2012)

Maybe "in recent memory" should have been said there? Or...well, hmmm. Since FEMA only really got started in the late 70's, there's not a huge amount of history there. Looks to me like some neutral stuff (though, how can disaster aid not be neutral at worst?), a single big negative, and a whole lot of positives - mostly when James Witt was running things.

// hat-tip to Craig Fugate, and endless raspberries at Mike Brown
 
2012-11-05 04:47:21 PM  

kbronsito: It was a terrible response. FEMA responded too quickly to this storm!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ex-fema-director-michael-brown-cr i ticizes-obama-reacting-202803013.html


Dayum. I had to check the URL twice to be sure it wasn't The Onion. Ol' Brownie saying the response was too soon sounds just like satire.
 
2012-11-05 04:48:21 PM  
Stop your messing around,
Better think of your future.
Time you straighten right out,
Creating problems in town.
Rudy, a message to you Rudy.
A message to you.
Stop your fooling around.
Time you straighten right out.
Better think of your future,
As you wind up in jail.
Rudy, a message to you Rudy.
A message to you.
Stop your messing around.
Better think of your future.
Time you straighten right out,
Creating problems in town.
Rudy, a message to you Rudy.
A message to you Rudy.
Oh, its a message to you Rudy.
Yeah, its a message to you Rudy.
its a message to you Rudy...
 
2012-11-05 04:48:22 PM  

Bloody William: What the fark is their problem?


The President is near.
 
jvl
2012-11-05 04:48:52 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Let's examine major American disasters since 1990, shall we?


*golf clap*

You missed the biggest screwup by three months.
 
2012-11-05 04:50:15 PM  
The same Rudy Guliani who has been a paid shill for the MEK (Mujahadeen-e-Khalq) while they were on the US State Dept list of Terrorist organizations. This was another felony that the powers that be looked the other way on because they are now OUR terrorists.

He has become a caricature who will say anything and everything if it will enrich him.
 
2012-11-05 05:05:40 PM  
So, we held supplies from going in for 6 days on the East Coast while holding everyone in at gunpoint?

Gee, I don't remember that.

Video of Shepard Smith confirming that Katrina victims were held in at gunpoint... goto 5:20 in the clip if you want to skip the Geraldo drama.
 
2012-11-05 05:08:45 PM  

GAT_00: vpb: Heck of a job 9/11 Rudy.

Now with more Rudy.

 


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Taco acessory not included.
 
ecl
2012-11-05 05:18:34 PM  
Did they just kill the smart funny system?
 
2012-11-05 05:26:35 PM  

o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.


Which is the exact same narrative that the GOP is using on the Libyan attack on the consulate.
 
2012-11-05 05:27:02 PM  

PreMortem: Giuliani has become no better that Rush, Hannity, and Coulter. A hack who gets paid to say whatever nonsense republitards with eat up.


/agreed. I liked his handling of the emergency response on 9/11, but now it seems that he has turned into a derp spewing neocon that warrants no respect at all.
 
2012-11-05 05:32:57 PM  
The funny/sad thing is despite all this outright lies the country is still for the most part split down the middle. I'm not sure what this say about Americans in general...
 
2012-11-05 05:35:04 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: The funny/sad thing is despite all this outright lies the country is still for the most part split down the middle. I'm not sure what this say about Americans in general...


That about half of them are burning with stupid.
 
2012-11-05 05:40:47 PM  

Ilmarinen: o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

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*that my party has championed since forever*

legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.

SlothB77: Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.

Strong arguments from the Fark right.


I think it's important to give them a voice. It will make it easier for the drones to find them so they can be relocated to FEMA camps in that liberal bastion, the north east. A 1000 years of darkness is coming and their types need to get it out of their system, I don't think our new kenyan, marxist, chinese, russian, socialist overlords are going to put up with that kind of rabble rousing once obama hands over the keys to the UN and they start going door to door to collect all of our guns.
 
2012-11-05 05:40:55 PM  
Is there any lie these farking coonts wont tell? I mean honestly, 9ul1an1 we all watch the farking news you twat. We saw both live with our own eyes. Dont sell us this shiat you farking partisan farking biatch!
 
jvl
2012-11-05 05:46:19 PM  

rudemix: Whaaaaaaaarbargl!!!!


Whoa there. Just take a moment, think this through, and consider that there are brands that taste just as good and only have half the caffeine.
 
2012-11-05 05:53:25 PM  

legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.


Remember: i before e, except after c and in "weirdo." Also, remember not to resort to tired cliches like calling Obama "messiah," because it makes you look really ignorant and uninformed.
 
2012-11-05 05:55:32 PM  

advex101: Rudy, your 15 minutes are up. Go away.


Aw, so close to do another "eleven" joke. So sorry.
 
2012-11-05 05:57:08 PM  
I love how he uses Bush's abysmal response to Katrina as his standard of abject disaster response. "This was so bad, why, it's even worse than George Bush - Oh elect Mitt Romney".
 
2012-11-05 06:00:48 PM  
How does Guiliani have time to comment of FEMA? Shouldn't he and his whore be busy tormenting dogs?
 
2012-11-05 06:00:54 PM  

StopLurkListen: advex101: Rudy, your 15 minutes are up. Go away.

Aw, so close to do another "eleven" joke. So sorry.


Rudy got 20 minutes. (9+11)
 
2012-11-05 06:36:39 PM  

alaric3: Katrina didn't respond to Hurricane Sandy at all.


And Bush didn`t respond to Katrina either until he was forced to.
 
2012-11-05 06:57:57 PM  

El_Perro: Latinwolf: jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.

It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.

Most of the subways are up and running, the only lines still not working are parts of the R and L trains.

And the G (if that counts as a train)


My bad, how could I forget the stepchild of the transit system.
 
2012-11-05 07:02:54 PM  

Latinwolf: El_Perro: Latinwolf: jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.

It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.

Most of the subways are up and running, the only lines still not working are parts of the R and L trains.

And the G (if that counts as a train)

My bad, how could I forget the stepchild of the transit system.


Easily, Latinwolf. Easily.
 
2012-11-05 07:07:31 PM  

Latinwolf: My bad, how could I forget the stepchild of the transit system.


The Franklin Street S was up and running again before the G. What does THAT tell you?
 
2012-11-05 07:09:09 PM  

Latinwolf: And the G (if that counts as a train)

My bad, how could I forget the stepchild of the transit system.


I need to amend your comment. The G Train deserves a special description to really describe the experience of that particular route. 

"My bad, how could I forget the temperamentally difficult, defiant, stubborn, loud, picky, impossible at bedtime, irresponsible at mealtimes, clingy, shy and whiny stepchild of the transit system."

There....that's better.
 
2012-11-05 07:11:32 PM  
We need to send more wheelchairs to NJ and NY.

brian.io
 
2012-11-05 07:27:56 PM  

ecl: Did they just kill the smart funny system?


The hurricane took it out.

WHY HASN'T FEMA FIXED THE "FUNNY" AND "SMART" BUTTONS YET?!?!?!?!
 
2012-11-05 07:39:10 PM  

homelessdude: Latinwolf: And the G (if that counts as a train)

My bad, how could I forget the stepchild of the transit system.

I need to amend your comment. The G Train deserves a special description to really describe the experience of that particular route. 

"My bad, how could I forget the temperamentally difficult, defiant, stubborn, loud, picky, impossible at bedtime, irresponsible at mealtimes, clingy, shy and whiny stepchild of the transit system."

There....that's better.


I just assumed that the G may not have sustained any damage at all, it's just that the MTA hasn't gotten around to checking on it yet.
 
2012-11-05 07:41:04 PM  

Vodka Zombie: ManateeGag: I didn't realize Obama did a flyover. what were all those pictures with Christie. a farking hologram?

They've been dating. Most of those pictures were taken during a lunch date at Bennigan's.


Bennigan's? I don't even realize that Christie and Obama were Star Wars fans (nsfw language).
 
2012-11-05 07:51:03 PM  

legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.


Ever notice how only wingnuts call Obama a messiah?
 
2012-11-05 08:06:20 PM  

PunGent: legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.

Ever notice how only wingnuts call Obama a messiah?


No, but I do notice how angry liberals get when you point out that Barack Hussein Christ left an ambassador to die, possible because he found out that Obama was running guns to Syria.
 
2012-11-05 08:11:03 PM  

legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.


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Unfortunately, recent seasonal critic, Ms. Palin is not on the ticket this time. Apart from that, I welcome you to this forum, recent seasonal critic.
 
2012-11-05 08:17:04 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Good trolling Rudy. I give you a 9 out of 11.


WHAR FUNNY BUTTON?! WHAR?!
 
2012-11-05 08:20:59 PM  
Typical.
 
2012-11-05 08:32:59 PM  

ChipNASA: BitwiseShift: Because a dead person in a wheel LAWN chair outside the Superdome is a sign of Republican Success after a disaster.

[michellemalkinisanidiot.com image 259x384]

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That... that's your rebuttal? That it's a lawn chair? Seriously?
 
2012-11-05 08:50:05 PM  

legalgus: PreMortem: Giuliani has become no better that Rush, Hannity, and Coulter. A hack who gets paid to say whatever nonsense republitards with eat up.

Squeal you little liberal pussies. Showing up is not helping. Rudy is right. Go worship somewhere else besides your Obama altar. Losers one and all.


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2012-11-05 08:54:49 PM  

shotglasss: No, but I do notice how angry liberals get when you point out that Barack Hussein Christ left an ambassador to die, possible because he found out that Obama was running guns to Syria.


If by "notice" you mean "fantasize about," sure.
 
2012-11-05 08:56:14 PM  

SlothB77: Mitt Romney had all the momentum. Obama was going down. Then hurricane Sandy hit, flooded New York, knocked out power. And, according to the media over the weekend, propelled Obama to an election victory.

Hurricane Sandy saved Obama. Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.


Sounds sort of like a certain deity wants Obama to stay in the White House.
 
2012-11-05 09:00:24 PM  

legalgus: PreMortem: Giuliani has become no better that Rush, Hannity, and Coulter. A hack who gets paid to say whatever nonsense republitards with eat up.

Squeal you little liberal pussies. Showing up is not helping. Rudy is right. Go worship somewhere else besides your Obama altar. Losers one and all.


Messiahs and altars... you seem to think religion is first and foremost in the minds of people who support Obama. I counter that it is *you* who are bringing religious symbolism into this discussion, perhaps because that's what you find closest to you or perhaps in an attempt to color Obama supporters as religious fanatics. You think in religious terms and somehow you feel that an effective argument is to paint the supporters of your hated [socialist, black - Why, NO I'm not a racist!!! you say] presidential opponent as being religious in their support. I think you are stupid. Not because you oppose Obama, but from the depths of your shallowness as evidenced in your posts here.

The sad thing is that your's is one of the more salient arguments from your side. This leaves me very sad.
 
2012-11-05 09:02:08 PM  
Barack Obama doesn't care about guidos.
 
2012-11-05 09:05:12 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Chris Christie begs to differ.


Came here to say this.
 
2012-11-05 10:16:56 PM  
HEY RUDY!!!!
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2012-11-05 10:18:04 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: HEY RUDY!!!!
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I r retard?

Hey, MTF, grow up!
 
2012-11-05 10:28:36 PM  

jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: All Presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief after major natural disasters. Looks to me like Obama is going to get lucky though and the unfair blame will mostly occur after the election.

All presidents get blamed for insufficient disaster relief when their is insufficient disaster relief. The response to Sandy has been a study in how to do it right.

It's bit early to judge. Katrina was more obvious one week in due to the people left in the Superdome. Also, the fact that Bush had a moron in charge of FEMA. I imagine when the subways still don't work in a month, people will blame the Army Corp (and Obama) for being unprepared even though that's obviously New York's responsibility to be prepared for.


A month? Here, take a look at the last two days (PDFs):

Nov 3 subway map

Nov 5 subway map

I suspect the only way you'll be able to tell anything was wrong in a month will be some high water lines on the walls that they haven't cleaned off yet.
 
2012-11-05 11:11:07 PM  
Giuliani is a shameless whore.
 
2012-11-05 11:14:23 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: People forget that on 9/10 Rudy was probably the most hated man in NYC.


and he's really making up for lost time
 
2012-11-05 11:56:37 PM  

SmackLT: MrBallou: We all knew the whargarbl would be wild and wooly today. It'll be a derp hurricane to make Sandy look like a spring shower.

WE'VE GOT A CATEGORY 4 DERPICANE HERE


Herpicane?
 
2012-11-05 11:58:10 PM  

JackieRabbit: Oh good lord. This doesn't even warrant a response.


You started to, then deleted it didn't you.
 
2012-11-06 01:13:08 AM  
Threads probably dead...but just want to point out that Bloomberg actually told Obama not to come pretty much. Obama was planning on coming to NYC and Bloomberg told him it was unwarranted and his time was better spent in NJ where the brunt of the damage is
 
2012-11-06 03:50:53 AM  

Mentalpatient87: o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot.

"'Scuse me, kids, I got some presidentin' to do"
*exit to hallway*
Farking difficult, that!

The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

The fact that he sat there with a dumb look on his face, and then went back to reading a children's book made him look like an idiot. Made it look like our country was run by an idiot. Made America look like idiots. He didn't have to turn into Captain Texas and charge into battle, but it would've been nice if he did something.


Mhmm, what might have you looked like if you were told your whole neighborhood went up in flames, while sitting there in a preschool class full of easily emotional children? Personally I'm glad he didn't "jump the gun" and chose to at least wait a bit. After all, what good could he do suddenly rushing anywhere?
 
2012-11-06 05:53:00 AM  

machodonkeywrestler: o5iiawah: Yes, because a class full of elementary school children should have heard exactly what happened, right there, on the spot. The fact that Bush didn't jump up out of his seat, tell everyone, pull out his ivory revolvers and point them towards Mecca was a sign of weakness.

Which is the exact same narrative that the GOP is using on the Libyan attack on the consulate.


Wrong.

The narrative that the GOP is pushing in regards to Bengazhi, is asking why the president stood in front of the UN and called it violence sparked by outrage against a video and why the administration's position for the first 2 weeks thereafter was that it was mob violence. If we didn't have the complete story as to what happened, there was no reason to issue anything more than "it was an attack" and piece together the evidence from there. It should have been noted, however that the building was attacked with mortar fire, which any boy-scout would tell you has to be dialed in and isnt usually brought to protests by flashmobs. Just sayin.

By the way, there is no GOP position or democrat position. There is what actually happened, and what liberals tried to spin as happening.
 
2012-11-06 06:32:33 AM  

o5iiawah: and what liberals tried to spin as happening.


Speaking of spin...
 
2012-11-06 08:17:37 AM  

CthulhuCalling: SlothB77: Mitt Romney had all the momentum. Obama was going down. Then hurricane Sandy hit, flooded New York, knocked out power. And, according to the media over the weekend, propelled Obama to an election victory.

Hurricane Sandy saved Obama. Because nothing gets you reelected like having millions of your own citizens suffer through the cold without food, water, shelter, gas or power for the week befor the election.

Sounds sort of like a certain deity wants Obama to stay in the White House.


That must be it. Like how the tsunami was gods retribution, Sandy was god saying all the republicans are like satans arsehole to him.
 
2012-11-06 06:10:26 PM  

BitwiseShift: Because a dead person in a wheel chair outside the Superdome is a sign of Republican Success after a disaster.

[michellemalkinisanidiot.com image 259x384]


img.metro.co.uk

He's not dead he's just sleeping.
 
2012-11-07 07:50:43 PM  

shotglasss: PunGent: legalgus: Love to hear little liberal wierdos squeal when anyone criticizes their messiah. Go for it libs, it's the only thing you're good at.

Ever notice how only wingnuts call Obama a messiah?

No, but I do notice how angry liberals get when you point out that Barack Hussein Christ left an ambassador to die, possible because he found out that Obama was running guns to Syria.


I honestly do not care much about Bengazi-gate, or whatever the wingnuts are trying to hang on the president this week. but, I'll bite:

Got a citation...you know, that's not World Nut Daily?
 
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