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(The Consumerist)   Dear Consumerist: Fridge magnets will not stick to my new stainless steel refrigerator. Am I entitled to a refund? Sincerely, Insane Clown Posse. PS. Farking magnets, how do they work?   (consumerist.com) divider line 128
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2012-11-05 12:35:46 PM
and that there, the end of all Stainless appliances in the kitchen... good old mild-steel for the masses.
 
2012-11-05 12:36:06 PM
Fark Consumerist, not even this place will get me to add to their traffic.

/DNRTA, or is that obvious?
 
2012-11-05 12:36:14 PM
Clearly someone didn't know the secret of steel.
 
2012-11-05 12:36:35 PM
My mom bought stainless appliances for her kitchen when she remodelled and was mortified that her magnets didn't stick, so I'm getting a kick etc.
 
2012-11-05 12:38:35 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh


Clearly someone didn't know the secret of steel.


Crom farts in his general direction.
 
2012-11-05 12:38:48 PM
This just in: 300 series stainless steel is non-magnetic. More at 11.
 
2012-11-05 12:39:11 PM
Over sold the joke, subby
 
2012-11-05 12:39:23 PM
This is one of the best qualities of stainless, no crappy magnets.
 
2012-11-05 12:39:44 PM
I just moved from a house I bought 2 years ago and I thought the fridge was stainless steel, but we had a ton of magnets on it. Was it not stainless or is there a stainless steel that magnets will stick to?
 
2012-11-05 12:40:33 PM
*GASP* You mean Sears sucks? I AM SHOCKED.

/worked at corporate 2.5 years
//worst job of my life
 
2012-11-05 12:41:11 PM
FTA: "... Kenmore Elite appliances are supposed to be the best appliances you can buy."

Ummm .... no.


and "Stainless steel appliances are often made from alloys that aren't magnetic" Then it isn't stainless steel.

Sears has been crap since the '80's.
 
2012-11-05 12:41:16 PM

snocone: This is one of the best qualities of stainless, no crappy magnets.


I love it. The main fridge stays clean (at least until the rugrat discovers scotch tape) and my mini-beer fridge is the magnet taker (but only magnets from trips).
 
2012-11-05 12:41:25 PM
This is turning out to be an interesting thread.
 
2012-11-05 12:41:38 PM
I'm betting if I tell my wife that magnets won't stick she'll quit bugging me to buy one.
 
2012-11-05 12:42:08 PM
Low iron stainless steel...amazing that magnets wont stick to it.

The complaint nowhere mentions whether or not OP used stainless polish/protectant
 
2012-11-05 12:42:24 PM
I think the magnet thing is secondary to "it's rusting", really. Stainless steel that rusts? Well that's missing the bloody point.
 
2012-11-05 12:42:35 PM

jst3p: Was it not stainless or is there a stainless steel that magnets will stick to?


The name "stainless steel" covers a huge amount of different alloys. There are stainless steels that have enough iron in them so a magnet will stick.
 
2012-11-05 12:43:49 PM
So Pinterest and Iphones have replaced putting anything on the fridge?

Stupid.
 
2012-11-05 12:43:52 PM
This is why I simply drive nails into my refrigerator if I need to hang something on it. or those handy 3M stickie things that come back off.
 
2012-11-05 12:44:03 PM

jst3p: I just moved from a house I bought 2 years ago and I thought the fridge was stainless steel, but we had a ton of magnets on it. Was it not stainless or is there a stainless steel that magnets will stick to?


Seems this guy "google" knows the answer:

The 400 series stainless steel (martinsetic, e.g., 440C stainless) is generally magnetic, while the 300 series (austinetic, e.g., 304 and 316) is not.

Learn something every day. I hope this "internet" fad sticks around, it might become useful.
 
Skr
2012-11-05 12:44:14 PM
So it sounds like they are branding Aluminum (or some non ferrous alloy there of) as Stainless steel?

ak1.ostkcdn.com
 
2012-11-05 12:44:17 PM
Huh, you mean an Average American Consumer buys more for hype than out of critical knowledge of a product? I'm shocked.

/mostly by a ground fault
 
2012-11-05 12:44:28 PM

jst3p: I just moved from a house I bought 2 years ago and I thought the fridge was stainless steel, but we had a ton of magnets on it. Was it not stainless or is there a stainless steel that magnets will stick to?


It depends on the exact formulation. Most stainless steel does have enough iron in it to stick magnets to (like your knives), but some stainless steel alloys do not. Some of the cheaper "stainless steel" appliances I've come across use non-magnetic stainless steel. The nice appliances usually have magnetic-friendly stainless.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 12:45:41 PM
Obviously magnets are their main concern. The refrigerator rusting and not working in the first place have absolutely nothing to do with the complaint.
 
2012-11-05 12:45:52 PM
Always purchase your stainless steel from a reputable stainless steel provider.
 
2012-11-05 12:46:25 PM

Whodat: FTA: "... Kenmore Elite appliances are supposed to be the best appliances you can buy."

Ummm .... no.


It's relative.. They're supposed to be the "best appliances you can buy from Sears with the Kenmore name"
 
2012-11-05 12:46:40 PM

rosonowski: I think the magnet thing is secondary to "it's rusting", really. Stainless steel that rusts? Well that's missing the bloody point.


Quite a lot of "stainless" can develop rust spots. It just won't rust into a solid chunk like bare iron or mild steel.

The spots are easily removed. Baking soda is probably the simplest method. There are also specific cleaning products out there for removing oxide and blocking further oxidation.
 
2012-11-05 12:48:26 PM

rosonowski: I think the magnet thing is secondary to "it's rusting", really. Stainless steel that rusts? Well that's missing the bloody point.


Stainless steel can rust. All stainless steel. What matters is the conditions the steel is subjected to and the exact formulation.

Now stainless steel is more resistant to oxidation than higher carbon steels, but not it's not impervious. You will still want to keep it clean and dry.
 
2012-11-05 12:48:28 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Clearly someone didn't know the secret of steel.

Or the Riddle of Steel...
www.everythingaction.com
 
2012-11-05 12:48:54 PM

Gunny Highway: Over sold the joke, subby


PPS. Insane Clown Posse had a song where they didn't know how magnets worked
 
2012-11-05 12:48:56 PM

vpb: Obviously magnets are their main concern. The refrigerator rusting and not working in the first place have absolutely nothing to do with the complaint.


I'm going to guess it's an installation issue. Bet their pocket for the fridge is juuuuuuust big enough for the fridge itself, and does not have any space for air circulation. No circulation = no cooling in the box. Gotta move air past the condenser coils either at the back or bottom of the appliance.

And it isn't rusting. It has rust spots typical of lesser stainless alloys.
 
2012-11-05 12:49:25 PM

duffblue: This is turning out to be an interesting thread.


Yeah, welcome to the new misinformation meme already in progress.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 12:50:53 PM

Kuroshin: vpb: Obviously magnets are their main concern. The refrigerator rusting and not working in the first place have absolutely nothing to do with the complaint.

I'm going to guess it's an installation issue. Bet their pocket for the fridge is juuuuuuust big enough for the fridge itself, and does not have any space for air circulation. No circulation = no cooling in the box. Gotta move air past the condenser coils either at the back or bottom of the appliance.

And it isn't rusting. It has rust spots typical of lesser stainless alloys.


So how does it have rust spots if it isn't rusting?
 
2012-11-05 12:51:25 PM
I feel that I can get to know someone better simply by what kind of stuff they stick to their refrigerator, so yeah, I'd be upset, but there's other ways to stick something to it. Oh, and there's no way I'll click to that dumb site.
 
2012-11-05 12:51:50 PM
Wow.
 
2012-11-05 12:51:59 PM
Dear Consumerist Reader (ICP),

Since y'all can't seem to keep your rugrats from binge-snacking on those most delectable of confections that are so obviously magnets, we've been given no choice but to sell weaker magnets, so your paste-eating loinspawn won't inadvertently perforate their bowels with them when they inevitably consume them.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,
Decent Parenting.
 
2012-11-05 12:52:39 PM

intotheabyss81: Agent Smiths Laugh: Clearly someone didn't know the secret of steel.
Or the Riddle of Steel...
[www.everythingaction.com image 500x205]


Same thing.
 
2012-11-05 12:52:56 PM

Skr: So it sounds like they are branding Aluminum (or some non ferrous alloy there of) as Stainless steel?


There are lots of kinds of SS that's non magnetic.
 
2012-11-05 12:54:31 PM

H31N0US: This just in: 300 series stainless steel is non-magnetic. More at 11.


Very true. Austenitic (300 series) is virtually non-magnetic

Other types are variable in their magnetic properties depending on the chromium and nickel content.

One of my favorite metals to work with
 
2012-11-05 12:55:05 PM
Newsflash: Stainless steel stains. Ask a DeLorean owner.
 
2012-11-05 12:57:40 PM
I still have some stainless steel cookware my parents bought in the '60's. Just tried sticking a magnet to a couple of them, they didn't stick.

My fridge has a standard white front. Magnets stick fine to it.
 
2012-11-05 12:57:46 PM

mongbiohazard: jst3p: I just moved from a house I bought 2 years ago and I thought the fridge was stainless steel, but we had a ton of magnets on it. Was it not stainless or is there a stainless steel that magnets will stick to?

It depends on the exact formulation. Most stainless steel does have enough iron in it to stick magnets to (like your knives), but some stainless steel alloys do not. Some of the cheaper "stainless steel" appliances I've come across use non-magnetic stainless steel. The nice appliances usually have magnetic-friendly stainless.


um, it's the nonmagnetic stainless that is better quailiy, that stuff with a high enough iron content to grab a magnet will rust..

good stainless (non-magnetic) oxidizes, but only a clear, thin layer on the surface

crap stainless (magnetic) oxidizes, but because of the iron content will eventually 'rust' through
 
2012-11-05 12:58:39 PM
I'll have to keep the magnet thing in mind. Though I think I have my wife convinced about it because of the fingerprints issue.
 
2012-11-05 01:00:53 PM

TheGreatGazoo: I'll have to keep the magnet thing in mind. Though I think I have my wife convinced about it because of the fingerprints issue.


Just get brushed stainless. No fingerprint issues. Also, if you take photos of stuff to sell while in the nude, you won't have to worry about awkward reflections coming from your appliances.
 
2012-11-05 01:01:30 PM

intotheabyss81: Agent Smiths Laugh: Clearly someone didn't know the secret of steel.
Or the Riddle of Steel...
[www.everythingaction.com image 500x205]


I used to watch Remington Steele, does that count?
 
2012-11-05 01:03:07 PM
Isn't this why super glue was invented?
 
2012-11-05 01:03:28 PM

LittleSmitty: H31N0US: This just in: 300 series stainless steel is non-magnetic. More at 11.

Very true. Austenitic (300 series) is virtually non-magnetic

Other types are variable in their magnetic properties depending on the chromium and nickel content.

One of my favorite metals to work with


I personally hated working with 300 series. Turning threads on 316 is farking impossible for diameters less than 1/4 inch. Give me good old 17-4 and a heat treater any day of the week!
 
2012-11-05 01:03:29 PM

Whodat: and "Stainless steel appliances are often made from alloys that aren't magnetic" Then it isn't stainless steel.


If it's stainless, it isn't steel.

\Steel has carbon, by definition
 
2012-11-05 01:04:45 PM

vpb: The refrigerator rusting and not working in the first place have absolutely nothing to do with the complaint.


I've never seen a refrigerator fail due to body rust.
 
2012-11-05 01:05:30 PM
Even the fricking "If you give a mouse a cookie" mouse knows you need Scotch tape to stick stuff to the fridge.
 
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