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vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 11:57:51 AM  
27 votes:
i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?
2012-11-05 12:25:48 PM  
15 votes:
Call me when it's 10,000 lower ranking enlisted men and women. You know, the ones who will actually be getting killed on the field of battle.
2012-11-05 12:58:43 PM  
13 votes:
Meanwhile, 68 Nobel Prize laureates in the sciences have endorsed Obama.

Thinking about which direction I want our country to go towards in the future, I'll value the opinion of the brightest scientists over those of career military men.
2012-11-05 12:05:32 PM  
13 votes:
I can see how a draft dodger who hid in France while advocating for a war he wouldn't have to fight in who was hilariously wrong on getting Bin Laden would make a fine Commander in Chief.
2012-11-05 12:47:39 PM  
6 votes:

vernonFL: The military industrial complex supports itself.


It also lobbies Congress. Using money it gets from Congress.

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2012-11-05 12:54:48 PM  
4 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now don't work for defense contractors?


I prefer shorter lists.
2012-11-05 12:41:42 PM  
4 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


sfist.com
2012-11-05 12:02:03 PM  
4 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


Exactly.
2012-11-05 01:12:25 PM  
3 votes:

Doc Daneeka: Meanwhile, 68 Nobel Prize laureates in the sciences have endorsed Obama.

Thinking about which direction I want our country to go towards in the future, I'll value the opinion of the brightest scientists over those of career military men.


Being in the Marine Corps, and having to choose between NOBEL PRIZE LAUREATES in sciences and hypocritical generals who
1. Didn't care for the troops...used them as career props
2. Used the military to set up their own "1%" of senior officers who got ridiculous perks, advantages, and everything else. And don't even think or ask about the way they treat themselves as royalty WHILE DEPLOYED
3. Wouldn't know how to lead themselves out a wet paper bag let alone try to effectively lead.

You best believe I'm running with the scientists on this one. Being a general or admiral in the military is no measure of intelligence, trust me.

They only want to enrich their own pockets. They have no genuine interest in America's progressing forward.

Scientists all the way. fark these flaming cockbag field grades. You got your retirement, you set yourselves up with defense contractors to rape and pillage the treasury, so shut the fark up.
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Ehh
2012-11-05 01:07:25 PM  
3 votes:
That, by itself, is a great reason not to vote for Mitt Romney.

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/masters-war
2012-11-05 12:53:48 PM  
3 votes:
Can I haz more defense money that army / navy I don't work for anymore isn't requesting so I can consult with firm to make more shiat we don't need?

PLEASE!
2012-11-05 12:04:39 PM  
3 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


My first thought exactly.
2012-11-05 12:02:09 PM  
3 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


This.
2012-11-05 01:11:12 PM  
2 votes:
Rather than a long list of names, I would have been interested in a paragraph or two on why a two faced liar who has taken both sides of literally every relevant issue deserves their support.
2012-11-05 01:06:46 PM  
2 votes:

historynow11: I actually know the one name on the list. I can state honestly that he has no defense contractor affiliations. He's only been retired for almost 40 years.

\Still tired of the "if your are/were in the military, you must support the GOP" line.


The line is stale, to be certain. When I was in the Navy, I was told this line as well, but more of a present tense "you're in the military, you must vote Republican." The thinking was, only the Republicans give us the money we need. Strangely enough, my pay increased more during Clinton's presidency than it did under Bush. Still, of my old Navy pals that I keep up with, all of them are voting Romney. And the ones I keep in touch with aren't the "fark you, I got mine" types and don't really care about conservative social matters. So I kindof scratch my head on that. One of my best buddies from the Navy is married to a flower child and is an artsy type himself, caricature of a liberal commie hippy family, but he's voting Romney. I don't agree with the sentiment of "military votes GOP" but unfortunately, it's what I see.
On a side note, I remember when Florida was contested back when Bush/Gore was going on, and people were saying that they didn't count all the military absentee ballots. And I thought to myself, "As much as I hate Bush, I don't see how absentee military ballots are going to help Gore's cause here."
2012-11-05 01:01:01 PM  
2 votes:
It's just names without even a single sentence regarding why? Yeah, thanks guys for your service, but I'm not putting the magic-underwear guy who would have asked Pakistan permission to get OBL in charge of anything.
2012-11-05 01:00:07 PM  
2 votes:

Doc Daneeka: Meanwhile, 68 Nobel Prize laureates in the sciences have endorsed Obama.

Thinking about which direction I want our country to go towards in the future, I'll value the opinion of the brightest scientists over those of career military men who stand to benefit greatly from an expanded Romney military.


FTFY
2012-11-05 12:56:31 PM  
2 votes:
I actually know the one name on the list. I can state honestly that he has no defense contractor affiliations. He's only been retired for almost 40 years.

\Still tired of the "if your are/were in the military, you must support the GOP" line.
2012-11-05 12:55:13 PM  
2 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


Done in two.
2012-11-05 12:45:05 PM  
2 votes:
The military industrial complex supports itself.
2012-11-05 12:39:22 PM  
2 votes:
. . . retired? What about current ones?
2012-11-05 12:33:12 PM  
2 votes:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


I'd say more than half.

Cythraul: Call me when it's 10,000 lower ranking enlisted men and women. You know, the ones who will actually be getting killed on the field of battle.


So... much... this.
2012-11-05 12:16:13 PM  
2 votes:
As I noted in the redlit thread: if they'd like to return their retirement checks in protest I'm sure no one would complain
2012-11-05 01:36:06 PM  
1 vote:
You can't get yourself one of those cushy Fox News jobs where you advocate for war in every instance and Monday Morning Quarterback the military's moves if there is no war.


/honorarium
2012-11-05 01:16:05 PM  
1 vote:
at their own expense,

Wow, I'm sure 1/500th of the cost really set them back a few bucks.
2012-11-05 01:15:32 PM  
1 vote:

rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?


No. There are about 6000 living retired generals and admirals. About 20% have endorsed Romney.

Good thing they published that list today. Had there been just one more day to respond before the election tomorrow I imagine interested parties would have no problem matching that number endorsing Obama. Chickenhawks indeed.
2012-11-05 01:10:35 PM  
1 vote:

historynow11: I actually know the one name on the list. I can state honestly that he has no defense contractor affiliations. He's only been retired for almost 40 years.

\Still tired of the "if your are/were in the military, you must support the GOP" line.


I highly doubt that 40 year number. If he was a reservist he cannot retire until 60, which would make him 100. If he was active duty AND a general he could probably have retired at 45-50 with a star. That would still make him way to old to be working NOW.

FYI - you can retire as early as age 37 in the military and start drawing your pension. These guys are the ultimate in socialism - being able to spend 20 years working and the rest of your life in retirement. Both military and government retirement rules need to change NOW.
2012-11-05 01:06:51 PM  
1 vote:
And what makes these Generals and Admirals more knowledgeable about what our country needs than anyone else? Also, for what reasons do they support Mitt Romney?

One of the worst people I've ever met and one of the best people I've ever met were in the military. Which means that have a military status is really no indication of you as a person.

Lastly, I'm sure there are a ton of ex-military who also support President Obama.
2012-11-05 01:06:24 PM  
1 vote:
As one of them was probably my father, I think I'll do the opposite of whatever the heck it is that they're suggesting.
2012-11-05 01:04:40 PM  
1 vote:
Amusingly enough, the majority of these names (about 400) are already on Romney's Military Advisory Council, making their independent donation to Romney as meaningful as any other staffer's.
2012-11-05 01:04:18 PM  
1 vote:
There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.
2012-11-05 01:02:59 PM  
1 vote:
FTFA: Lieutenant Generalen Fred "Assassin" McCorkle, (USMC-ret)

WTF?

Here's his official bio: (Fark won't link, but you should be able to copypasta) https://slsp.manpower.usmc.mil/gosa/biographies/rptBiography.asp?PERSO N_ID=492&PERSON_TYPE=General). It's full of typos, which is strange -- usually the USMC PR guys are pretty conscious about their image. Also no mention of his call sign being "Assassin" -- but no surprise there.

Farkers commenting above are undoubtedly correct about most of these guys being on defense boards. Another key is that almost all are north of 70 years old -- not exactly progressive thinkers.

I worked for or around a few of these guys, and I'm really disappointed to see their names on here.

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Tommy Franks is of course the biggest name on the list. And deserves a good chunk of the blame for the problems in Iraq, per this Tom Ricks article in The Atlantic that indicts many more Army generals.
2012-11-05 01:02:45 PM  
1 vote:
headline should read:

500 old mostly white guys endorse the white guy who will keep giving them tax money because socialism is bad.
2012-11-05 01:02:21 PM  
1 vote:
authoritative old white guys support authoritative old white guy. go figure.
2012-11-05 01:01:47 PM  
1 vote:
Old White Rich Protestants support Republican. News at 11
2012-11-05 12:59:18 PM  
1 vote:
1 I don't care what 500 retirees have to say about anything
2 I don't care who you used to work for
2012-11-05 12:59:10 PM  
1 vote:

Quasar: I can see how a draft dodger who hid in France while advocating for a war he wouldn't have to fight in who was hilariously wrong on getting Bin Laden would make a fine Commander in Chief.


Chickenhawks. Now 50% more pussified and 50% more audacious in sending others to die while your contractor buddies get rich!
2012-11-05 12:56:44 PM  
1 vote:
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2012-11-05 12:54:46 PM  
1 vote:

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


All of them.
2012-11-05 12:15:33 PM  
1 vote:
That's nice, but based on what?
2012-11-05 12:07:37 PM  
1 vote:
I wonder where the ad is published. As in, what periodical?
 
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