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2012-11-05 01:04:18 PM
There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.
 
2012-11-05 01:04:40 PM
Amusingly enough, the majority of these names (about 400) are already on Romney's Military Advisory Council, making their independent donation to Romney as meaningful as any other staffer's.
 
2012-11-05 01:06:04 PM

smitty04: Lando Lincoln: That's nice, but based on what?

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So Romney would have forced the GOP to pay for embassy security?

So Romney would have reacted before all the facts were in (oh wait, he did, the GOP roundly condemned him for it).

Try again, shiatmitter.
 
2012-11-05 01:06:24 PM
As one of them was probably my father, I think I'll do the opposite of whatever the heck it is that they're suggesting.
 
2012-11-05 01:06:37 PM

rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.


Like any good government job, they can retire after something like 35 years of service and receive a full pension.
 
2012-11-05 01:06:44 PM
that add was terrible. they could have at least chipped in for some small amount of design work
 
2012-11-05 01:06:44 PM

smitty04: Lando Lincoln: That's nice, but based on what?

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BAWWWWWWWWWWWW, OUR ATTEMPT TO MAKE OBAMA LOOK LIKE CARTER DIDN'T WORK, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW
 
2012-11-05 01:06:46 PM

historynow11: I actually know the one name on the list. I can state honestly that he has no defense contractor affiliations. He's only been retired for almost 40 years.

\Still tired of the "if your are/were in the military, you must support the GOP" line.


The line is stale, to be certain. When I was in the Navy, I was told this line as well, but more of a present tense "you're in the military, you must vote Republican." The thinking was, only the Republicans give us the money we need. Strangely enough, my pay increased more during Clinton's presidency than it did under Bush. Still, of my old Navy pals that I keep up with, all of them are voting Romney. And the ones I keep in touch with aren't the "fark you, I got mine" types and don't really care about conservative social matters. So I kindof scratch my head on that. One of my best buddies from the Navy is married to a flower child and is an artsy type himself, caricature of a liberal commie hippy family, but he's voting Romney. I don't agree with the sentiment of "military votes GOP" but unfortunately, it's what I see.
On a side note, I remember when Florida was contested back when Bush/Gore was going on, and people were saying that they didn't count all the military absentee ballots. And I thought to myself, "As much as I hate Bush, I don't see how absentee military ballots are going to help Gore's cause here."
 
2012-11-05 01:06:51 PM
And what makes these Generals and Admirals more knowledgeable about what our country needs than anyone else? Also, for what reasons do they support Mitt Romney?

One of the worst people I've ever met and one of the best people I've ever met were in the military. Which means that have a military status is really no indication of you as a person.

Lastly, I'm sure there are a ton of ex-military who also support President Obama.
 
2012-11-05 01:07:12 PM

rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.


They're not retired. They're pulling in consulting fees out the ass. Double dipping until they're dicks are green.
 
Ehh
2012-11-05 01:07:25 PM
That, by itself, is a great reason not to vote for Mitt Romney.

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/masters-war
 
2012-11-05 01:07:47 PM

coeyagi: rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.

They're not retired. They're pulling in consulting fees out the ass. Double dipping until they'retheir dicks are green.

 

FTFM
 
2012-11-05 01:07:49 PM

Quasar: I can see how a draft dodger who hid in France while advocating for a war he wouldn't have to fight in who was hilariously wrong on getting Bin Laden would make a fine Commander in Chief.


Jesus, somebody post the slow clap for this and turn the lights out. Thread over.
 
2012-11-05 01:08:02 PM
They paid to put an ad endorsing Romney in the Washington Times? Good job wasting your money preaching to the choir, morons.
 
2012-11-05 01:08:21 PM
As Republicans always like to say, that's what happens when you let voters that depend on government welfare vote.
 
2012-11-05 01:08:22 PM

rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.


A quick google shows as of 2002, there was 875 serving officers of flag rank, to say nothing of the generations of retired ones.
 
2012-11-05 01:09:01 PM

TabASlotB: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x343]
Why does anyone care what the Washington Generals have to say? They can't even keep their shorts on in a simple game of basketball...


January 5, 1971

Never forget. 100-99
 
2012-11-05 01:09:14 PM

starsrift: rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.

A quick google shows as of 2002, there was 875 serving officers of flag rank, to say nothing of the generations of retired ones.


Yeah, but how many of them were riding horses and brandishing bayonets on the way to work?
 
2012-11-05 01:09:45 PM
Smoke & Mirrors

Tools of the Mephistophelian everywhere.
 
2012-11-05 01:09:50 PM
But what do 30 Helens think?

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2012-11-05 01:10:35 PM

historynow11: I actually know the one name on the list. I can state honestly that he has no defense contractor affiliations. He's only been retired for almost 40 years.

\Still tired of the "if your are/were in the military, you must support the GOP" line.


I highly doubt that 40 year number. If he was a reservist he cannot retire until 60, which would make him 100. If he was active duty AND a general he could probably have retired at 45-50 with a star. That would still make him way to old to be working NOW.

FYI - you can retire as early as age 37 in the military and start drawing your pension. These guys are the ultimate in socialism - being able to spend 20 years working and the rest of your life in retirement. Both military and government retirement rules need to change NOW.
 
2012-11-05 01:11:12 PM
Rather than a long list of names, I would have been interested in a paragraph or two on why a two faced liar who has taken both sides of literally every relevant issue deserves their support.
 
2012-11-05 01:11:17 PM

Shabash: Another key is that almost all are north of 70 years old -- not exactly progressive thinkers.


Thanks, I wondered about that. So essentially they're just the core Republican demographic who also happen to be retired military. Cause, correlation, etc..
 
2012-11-05 01:12:25 PM

Doc Daneeka: Meanwhile, 68 Nobel Prize laureates in the sciences have endorsed Obama.

Thinking about which direction I want our country to go towards in the future, I'll value the opinion of the brightest scientists over those of career military men.


Being in the Marine Corps, and having to choose between NOBEL PRIZE LAUREATES in sciences and hypocritical generals who
1. Didn't care for the troops...used them as career props
2. Used the military to set up their own "1%" of senior officers who got ridiculous perks, advantages, and everything else. And don't even think or ask about the way they treat themselves as royalty WHILE DEPLOYED
3. Wouldn't know how to lead themselves out a wet paper bag let alone try to effectively lead.

You best believe I'm running with the scientists on this one. Being a general or admiral in the military is no measure of intelligence, trust me.

They only want to enrich their own pockets. They have no genuine interest in America's progressing forward.

Scientists all the way. fark these flaming cockbag field grades. You got your retirement, you set yourselves up with defense contractors to rape and pillage the treasury, so shut the fark up.
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2012-11-05 01:12:48 PM

thurstonxhowell: They paid to put an ad endorsing Romney in the Washington Times? Good job wasting your money preaching to the choir, morons.


They are covering their asses. Soon they will get farked and call it rape. Rape rape as in legitimate rape. This way they can complain when they lose their defense contract.

See I told you so; but remember the government doesn't create Jobs.
 
2012-11-05 01:13:58 PM

Guuberre: But what do 30 Helens think?

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What about the Daves I know?
 
2012-11-05 01:14:06 PM

Lost Thought 00: rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

Maybe the military is a little too big.

Like any good government job, they can retire after something like 35 years of service and receive a full pension.


Twenty.
 
2012-11-05 01:14:39 PM

RyogaM: It's just names without even a single sentence regarding why? Yeah, thanks guys for your service, but I'm not putting the magic-underwear guy who would have asked Pakistan permission to get OBL in charge of anything.


I published a whole book filled with the names (and phone numbers) of people endorsing me for president. The businesses that support me are listed separately in the back and printed on yellow paper to differentiate.
 
2012-11-05 01:15:25 PM
But what do 30 Helens have to say on the matter?
 
2012-11-05 01:15:32 PM

rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?


No. There are about 6000 living retired generals and admirals. About 20% have endorsed Romney.

Good thing they published that list today. Had there been just one more day to respond before the election tomorrow I imagine interested parties would have no problem matching that number endorsing Obama. Chickenhawks indeed.
 
2012-11-05 01:16:05 PM
at their own expense,

Wow, I'm sure 1/500th of the cost really set them back a few bucks.
 
2012-11-05 01:16:32 PM
Good for them... I'm still voting for Obama.
 
2012-11-05 01:16:51 PM
Let me guess: it touts Romney's war record? So it's a blank page?
 
2012-11-05 01:18:11 PM

SphericalTime: . . . retired? What about current ones?


The military is apolitical, by design, and they're not permitted to endorse candidates on active duty. They are permitted to vote, by many don't. My dad didn't vote until he retired.

//Trust me, you want active duty people who respect that and follow the commander in chief, no matter their personal feelings. When you lose that, you can lose everything.

markie_farkie: vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?

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Eh, I work with Admiral Carey (James J.) on there... he's a huge repub, but he also works with (or for) Pew, as well as the Flag & General Officers Network. Basically, he lobbies but mostly about healthcare & voting stuff... I don't think it's for weapons systems & shiat. I sure don't do any of that stuff, just personnel.
 
2012-11-05 01:18:15 PM

madgonad: SphericalTime: . . . retired? What about current ones?

It is against the UCMJ for a uniformed member of the armed services to endorse political candidates. It is also against the UCMJ to endorse candidates in declaration of their military status. Those rules go away at retirement.

And yes, these generals are sucking deeply at the government teat - retired generals rake in about 65-80k from retirement until they and their spouse dies. Oh, and yes, many of these guys are double-dipping at cushy military contractor jobs which mean big money for Romney's promised massive spending increase on weapon systems.


Don't forget the free healthcare for life! Spouses included. Also, any dependents.

My husband works for the DoD, technically he's a civilian employee of navy air. He's not allowed to stump for or against candidates, either.
He had to finally ask a friend of ours, master chief retired but working for the government, to stop sending the FW:ad infinitum emails. He just got sick of them, but pointed out he could lose his job over them.
They stopped pretty quickly. Who knows if he kept sending them to the other racist farks on his list, but damn. The disrespect for your Commander- in -Chief is just not professional.

Even these type of guys' hero, John Wayne (Marion) said he didn't vote for the President, but now that he was President, he was behind him all the way.

But this is not about race. Oh, no.
 
2012-11-05 01:18:33 PM

Mi-5: hypocritical generals who
1. Didn't care for the troops...used them as career props
2. Used the military to set up their own "1%" of senior officers who got ridiculous perks, advantages, and everything else. And don't even think or ask about the way they treat themselves as royalty WHILE DEPLOYED
3. Wouldn't know how to lead themselves out a wet paper bag let alone try to effectively lead.


Broad brushes only make you look like a total farking idiot.
 
2012-11-05 01:18:38 PM
Colin Powell on that list?
So how is this different from a list of CEOs and executives of defense contractors?

-- crickets ---
 
2012-11-05 01:20:04 PM
Oooh, let me just pop the 'Halls of Montezuma' into my ipod and march on down to the polls!


Why should I listen to a General or Admirals endorsement vs anyone else?


/hope they remember it's my socialist tax money that's ultimately paying their retirements and full page Rmoney ads
 
2012-11-05 01:20:53 PM

Guuberre: But what do 30 Helens think?

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*Shakes fist*

;)
 
2012-11-05 01:21:07 PM
A quick read of the list show 30 four stars. It appears the vast majority are 1 and 2 stars, with most of those coming from Air Force and Navy. Those two branches are officer heavy to begin with, especially Air Force.

/if recall correctly, anything above two star needs Senate approval.
 
2012-11-05 01:23:23 PM
This just in:

Retired generals launch war on empty chairs everywhere. So far the war isn't going well since only the non-retired military are the ones who give the orders.
 
2012-11-05 01:23:51 PM

vpb: i wonder how many of them now work for defense contractors?


blastoh: 500 old mostly white guys endorse the white guy who will keep giving them tax money because socialism is bad.


sprawl15: Amusingly enough, the majority of these names (about 400) are already on Romney's Military Advisory Council, making their independent donation to Romney as meaningful as any other staffer's.


Does anything else really need to be said in this thread?
 
2012-11-05 01:24:20 PM
With all due respect, sirs, go fark yourselves.
 
2012-11-05 01:24:57 PM
Buncha guys getting fat as military contractors who are mad that Obama let the openly gay into their club.
 
2012-11-05 01:25:33 PM

StoneColdAtheist: rnld: There are 500 retried Generals and Admirals?

No. There are about 6000 living retired generals and admirals. About 20% have endorsed Romney.

Good thing they published that list today. Had there been just one more day to respond before the election tomorrow I imagine interested parties would have no problem matching that number endorsing Obama. Chickenhawks indeed.


God Damn, that's a lot of generals and admirals. I wonder how many of them actually did jobs that require more than a captain's rank?
 
2012-11-05 01:26:39 PM

markie_farkie: vernonFL: The military industrial complex supports itself.

It also lobbies Congress. Using money it gets from Congress.

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I would much prefer the ouroboros myself really. Since I don't like associating idiotic things with my favorite moebius strip.

/I like playing Ace Combat
//Not that the aesops in the game are worthwhile
 
2012-11-05 01:26:40 PM
After reading this thread, the news doesn't seem so 'Spiffy' anymore.
 
2012-11-05 01:26:41 PM
I'll just leave this here...

www.darleenclick.com
 
2012-11-05 01:27:04 PM
They've got the pistols so they get the pesos.
 
2012-11-05 01:28:00 PM

readymix: absentee


Your mis-remembering what happened that election. Gore's campaign was well aware absentee ballots would not help his cause, which is why they sued to have them disqualified whenever possible: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=122428&page=1
 
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