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(WTOP)   The IRS has basically quit even trying to enforce that whole "tax-exempt churches can't preach politics" thing. Because, you know, it's hard and stuff   (wtop.com ) divider line
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2012-11-05 08:27:41 PM  
Fuk that.

Prosecute the MTFs now.

Tax religion.

Do it.

I mean it.

Think of the revenue.

Seriously.

Think of the potential dedumb inherent...

Do it.
 
2012-11-05 08:29:08 PM  

Indubitably: Fuk that.

Prosecute the MTFs now.

Tax religion.

Do it.

I mean it.

Think of the revenue.

Seriously.

Think of the potential dedumb inherent...

Do it.


Caveat: Humanize the change, word. *)
 
2012-11-05 08:30:03 PM  

genner: Meanwhile the also tax exempt united way is doing this

.....but no one cares, it's more fun to pick on Christians.


Nobody can read that babbleshiat.
 
2012-11-05 08:35:18 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: genner: Meanwhile the also tax exempt united way is doing this

.....but no one cares, it's more fun to pick on Christians.

Nobody can read that babbleshiat.


Interesting.

I've seen the "comments on thread thinly veiled with names and aphorisms aside" banter before.

Read and look up, please.

Thank you.

What do you see in the night sky unobscured by human light?

Look up.

Gracias.
 
2012-11-05 08:40:17 PM  

relcec: if you are a nonprofit and NOT a church your free speech rights are almost certainly intact. see UAW, ACLU, even the f*cking boy scouts. religious institutions are singled out for special scrutiny, not a special tax exempt status.


Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.

The exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.


nope.jpg
 
2012-11-05 08:41:16 PM  

relcec: what this is is a ubiquitous liberal claim not backed up by the facts.

"Generally, tax-exempt organizations must file an annual information return ( Form 990 or Form 990-EZ). Tax-exempt organizations that have annual gross receipts not normally in excess of $25,000 ($50,000 for tax years ending on or after December 31, 2010) are not required to file the annual information return; they may be required to file an annual electronic notice, however. In addition, churches and certain church-affiliated organizations are excepted from filing."


from:
http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Churches-&-Religious-Orga ni zations/Filing-Requirements

That is the 'Special Status' being spoken of.

relcec:

if you are a nonprofit and NOT a church your free speech rights are almost certainly intact. see UAW, ACLU, even the f*cking boy scouts. religious institutions are singled out for special scrutiny, not a special tax exempt status.


All 501(c)(3) organization's free speech rights are curtailed under current law, these limitations are specifically expanded for churches and other religious organizations.

So religious institutions ARE singled out for special scrutiny AND special tax exempt status (in that they don't have to file the annual information return).

In case you were confused, I'm opposed to both of these (special scrutiny and special tax exempt status). Treat churches the same as other 501(c)(3) organizations so that the government has no right or obligation to decide what is a church.
 
2012-11-05 08:47:01 PM  

Indubitably: BarkingUnicorn: genner: Meanwhile the also tax exempt united way is doing this

.....but no one cares, it's more fun to pick on Christians.

Nobody can read that babbleshiat.

Interesting.

I've seen the "comments on thread thinly veiled with names and aphorisms aside" banter before.

Read and look up, please.

Thank you.

What do you see in the night sky unobscured by human light?

Look up.

Gracias.


Danke.

Gratzi.

Das vadanya.

Ashoge.

Gui lah hui te ha

El-hamdullah

Dank je wel

Dua Netjer en etj

Ic sæcge eow þancas

Gmadlob

Efcharisto

Ewa ra

Go raibh maith agat

Qujanaq

Domo arigato

Words?

*)
 
2012-11-05 09:02:20 PM  

SkunkWerks: I'd settle for getting that whole "keeping religion out of politics" thing though.


Problem is, to do that you need to keep politics out of religion too. Hence the difficulty.
 
2012-11-05 09:08:13 PM  

on the road: SkunkWerks: I'd settle for getting that whole "keeping religion out of politics" thing though.

Problem is, to do that you need to keep politics out of religion too. Hence the difficulty.


Difficulty?

Thousands of years of dead people protest your bullshiat, man.

Seriously?

Grow into your being, please, i.e. grow up.
 
2012-11-05 09:09:19 PM  

Indubitably: on the road: SkunkWerks: I'd settle for getting that whole "keeping religion out of politics" thing though.

Problem is, to do that you need to keep politics out of religion too. Hence the difficulty.

Difficulty?

Thousands of years of dead people protest your bullshiat, man.

Seriously?

Grow into your being, please, i.e. grow up.


P.S. Don't fuk with E, i.e. at yer peril.
 
2012-11-05 09:40:50 PM  

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Easier if we just do this directly.

 
2012-11-05 09:58:30 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: [image0-rubylane.s3.amazonaws.com image 425x467] 
Easier if we just do this directly.


No doubt.

You know always where I am.

You could drone me.

You could propagate me.

You could end me.

You could recommunicate me.

Seriously?

I am five you already....

WTF do you want from me?

Nothing you haven't already had, MTF.

*Grrr*
 
2012-11-05 10:13:22 PM  
But you see, Jayzuss only likes those cement-headed social conservative candidates.
He hates liberals
If you don't vote that way, you'll make him quite irate and you won't get brownie points for getting into heaven. So vote for the most rightwing asshole and you'll get your heavenly reward.
 
2012-11-05 10:16:17 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: But you see, Jayzuss only likes those cement-headed social conservative candidates.
He hates liberals
If you don't vote that way, you'll make him quite irate and you won't get brownie points for getting into heaven. So vote for the most rightwing asshole and you'll get your heavenly reward.


Wrong answer.

Please vote for President Obama.

Thank you.
 
2012-11-06 11:41:57 AM  

Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling

So, all you Republicans who are posting pictures of Obama, et al, in church....you are I'm sure just as OUTRAGED to find out that Romney paid no taxes from 1996 to 2009, because he "rented" the tax exempt status of the Mormon Church?

I'm not a republican (or religious) so you're clearly not asking me, but I'll answer anyway.

Nice dodge. So you're "OUTRAGED" romney "rented" the tax exempt status of the Mormon Church. So why aren't you "OUTRAGED" about obama, clinton, clinton, algore, kerry?

You anti-religion bigots spent the past 13 years whining about booosh and his religious beliefs, yet not a peep when your candidates attend church and violate tax laws by campaigning there.

Why? Because as I already stated. "It's only wrong when the other guy does it". You're a hypocrite, nothing more.


/// and no, before you try to poison the well, I didn't vote for bush, or mccain.
 
2012-11-06 02:58:29 PM  
Look at what's happening in my town. Since this article, the city has determined that the church will NEVER host a polling place again. But the corsses reamin today.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_21930153/boulder-sacred-he a rt-mary-church-anti-abortion-display?source=most_viewed
 
2012-11-06 08:03:17 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: A while ago Bill Maher opined that churches are indeed abusing the tax exemption, and if the church catches on fire the church people should not be allowed to call the fire department.


Sounds about right.

All churches should be taxed.

All.
 
2012-11-07 06:21:59 PM  
Do it.

Please AND Thank you.

*)
 
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