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2012-11-05 10:49:05 AM
The choice will be simple after this election. The Republican Party can return to its roots of smaller less intrusive government and social equality that changing demographics require or it can continue on the destructive path that W was the start of and just change the name to evangelical Christian Republican Party and just accept permanent minority status. Any sane person who has any memory would see the problem with the current party that would consider Reagan too far left for them now. Still happy the out of the current crop that ran for the nomination Romney took the prize the rest are all outright Looney.


Compromise is not an evil word and having both parties worked together is the only way things will change for the better. The Dems have an inability to compromise as well, see the biggest piece of legislation in the last 25 years and absolutely no input from the republicans and because of that Obamacare is doomed to failure even if it would have been well written, (horribly written piece of legislation that causes more harm than good).
 
2012-11-05 10:52:59 AM

eurotrader: The choice will be simple after this election. The Republican Party can return to its roots of smaller less intrusive government and social equality that changing demographics require or it can continue on the destructive path that W was the start of and just change the name to evangelical Christian Republican Party and just accept permanent minority status. Any sane person who has any memory would see the problem with the current party that would consider Reagan too far left for them now. Still happy the out of the current crop that ran for the nomination Romney took the prize the rest are all outright Looney.


Compromise is not an evil word and having both parties worked together is the only way things will change for the better. The Dems have an inability to compromise as well, see the biggest piece of legislation in the last 25 years and absolutely no input from the republicans and because of that Obamacare is doomed to failure even if it would have been well written, (horribly written piece of legislation that causes more harm than good).


You were doing good up until the second paragraph. The WH brought is many of the same advisers who helped craft Romneycare to construct HCR. Insurance and drug lobbies were in on it too. The GOP was offered a seat at the table to further shape an idea that they themselves created in the 1990s, but they decided to throw a hissy fit, grab a badly spelled protest sign, and go nuts.

They have noone to blame but themselves.
 
2012-11-05 10:53:20 AM

eurotrader: Compromise is not an evil word and having both parties worked together is the only way things will change for the better. The Dems have an inability to compromise as well, see the biggest piece of legislation in the last 25 years and absolutely no input from the republicans and because of that Obamacare is doomed to failure even if it would have been well written, (horribly written piece of legislation that causes more harm than good).


What's funny about this paragraph is how it follows the one where you mention Reagan would be too far left for today's GOP, seeing how ObamaCare at it's core is a conservative solution to the health insurance problems in this country.

Remember, Obamacare is basically National RomneyCare (Which Romney is proud to point out was a bipartisan effort in his state) and the basic concepts were thought up by the conservative Heritage Foundation, and until the democrats introduced it, those concepts had support from such conservatives like Romney, Gingrich, and the party itself. remember, the individual mandate and such were the GOP's alternative solutions to HillaryCare in the 90's.

The GOP has just gone so far to the right that they violently oppose policies they themselves came up with.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 11:05:53 AM
That's why this election is so important. It's not that either candidate would be able to make major changes, it's that it would be a disaster if the GOP found success by moving toward the extreme right. They would just get worse.
 
2012-11-05 11:09:48 AM
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2012-11-05 11:19:55 AM
FTA: "This is why, in every election, since 1992, Democrats have either won the White House or fallen a single state short of the presidency."

Is this true? I was 12 in 1992 so I don't know.
 
2012-11-05 11:21:03 AM
Don't be ridiculous

/there is absolutely nothing civil about the GOP
 
2012-11-05 11:25:27 AM
We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.
 
2012-11-05 11:26:50 AM
We can only hope. But this has been predicted over and over for the past 30 years.
 
2012-11-05 11:28:45 AM

James!: growing cleavage on foreign policy 
 
growing cleavage on foreign policy 
 
growing cleavage on foreign policy 
 
growing cleavage!


This post useless without pics of impressive foreign cleavage.
 
2012-11-05 11:37:34 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: eurotrader: The choice will be simple after this election. The Republican Party can return to its roots of smaller less intrusive government and social equality that changing demographics require or it can continue on the destructive path that W was the start of and just change the name to evangelical Christian Republican Party and just accept permanent minority status. Any sane person who has any memory would see the problem with the current party that would consider Reagan too far left for them now. Still happy the out of the current crop that ran for the nomination Romney took the prize the rest are all outright Looney.


Compromise is not an evil word and having both parties worked together is the only way things will change for the better. The Dems have an inability to compromise as well, see the biggest piece of legislation in the last 25 years and absolutely no input from the republicans and because of that Obamacare is doomed to failure even if it would have been well written, (horribly written piece of legislation that causes more harm than good).

You were doing good up until the second paragraph. The WH brought is many of the same advisers who helped craft Romneycare to construct HCR. Insurance and drug lobbies were in on it too. The GOP was offered a seat at the table to further shape an idea that they themselves created in the 1990s, but they decided to throw a hissy fit, grab a badly spelled protest sign, and go nuts.

They have noone to blame but themselves.


I still say employer sponsored health insurance has to go. The only way cost and coverage is improved is giving all insurance without any employer direct cost. Voucher maybe an evil word to some but it is the only way for universal coverage and maintaining growth and improvement in health care. It stops the nonsense about religious organization saying they will not pay for certain things. Employers have no business in employee's private life in the first place. Obamacare caved into special interests and screwed the US instead of doing a real good of coverage for all; the pot thing still pisses me off as well.
 
2012-11-05 11:37:36 AM

raerae1980: FTA: "This is why, in every election, since 1992, Democrats have either won the White House or fallen a single state short of the presidency."

Is this true? I was 12 in 1992 so I don't know.


It's true, although that's a very small sample (only 5 elections, 2 won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats). If Gore had taken New Hampshire in 2000, he would have won. If Kerry had taken Ohio in 2004, he would have won. (And of course if either of them had taken Florida, they would have won.)

It's kind of a meaningless statistic, but it is technically correct.
 
2012-11-05 11:40:00 AM

GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.


This.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 11:48:24 AM

PreMortem: GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.

This.


Sure it did, and the Tea Party won.
 
2012-11-05 11:49:40 AM
My usual right-wing derp aside, I hope Obama wins again so the GOP can finally have their uncivil war and split. I will join whichever centrist party steps up to take their place. (The Dems don't count as they are too left of center for me.)
 
2012-11-05 11:54:43 AM

vpb: PreMortem: GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.

This.

Sure it did, and the Tea Party won.


The Teabaggers were not the result of a Civil War. They were a planned movement by the GOP.
 
2012-11-05 11:54:45 AM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: My usual right-wing derp aside, I hope Obama wins again so the GOP can finally have their uncivil war and split. I will join whichever centrist party steps up to take their place. (The Dems don't count as they are too left of center for me.)


"Centrist"
 
2012-11-05 11:56:07 AM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-05 11:59:15 AM
The funny thing is that if the GOP loses, they're going to say "You know what our problem is? We weren't conservative enough!"

I want to see them rename themselves The Christian Patriot Party.
 
2012-11-05 12:01:13 PM

This Is Bold Text: The funny thing is that if the GOP loses, they're going to say "You know what our problem is? We weren't conservative enough!"

I want to see them rename themselves The Christian Patriot Party.


They'd rename themselves to the GGG, the God, Guns, and Gays party, but they're probably afraid the latter part would be misunderstood and make them look like homosexuals.
 
2012-11-05 12:15:47 PM
The Republican party won't begin to come to it's senses until Rush is gone. His hatred of compromise is at the heart of the two decade shedding of their sanity.
 
2012-11-05 12:19:54 PM

This Is Bold Text: The funny thing is that if the GOP loses, they're going to say "You know what our problem is? We weren't conservative enough!"

I want to see them rename themselves The Christian Patriot Party.


In other words, the Tea Party.
 
2012-11-05 12:20:50 PM
"its," not "it's."

sorry, pet peeve...
 
2012-11-05 12:30:16 PM

GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.


It kinda did. Because of the factions within the GOP we got Schrödinger's Candidate. A man who tries to be everything to two different sides of the conservative spectrum and winds up satisfying nobody. In today's GOP, anyone moderate will get beaten up so bad then they'll come out of the primary with two black eyes and a fat lip. Remember: Romney was the best candidate of all the people who ran in the primary.

If the GOP had unofficially nominated Jon Huntsman a year ago and stood continuously united behind him, what would the polls look like now? Who do they have for 2016 that can satisfy everyone in the party and what will their argument be after the economy comes back?
 
2012-11-05 01:01:33 PM

GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.


There was a civil war against chickens.
 
2012-11-05 01:10:05 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: You were doing good up until the second paragraph. The WH brought is many of the same advisers who helped craft Romneycare to construct HCR. Insurance and drug lobbies were in on it too. The GOP was offered a seat at the table to further shape an idea that they themselves created in the 1990s, but they decided to throw a hissy fit, grab a badly spelled protest sign, and go nuts.

They have noone to blame but themselves.


One small correction to your correction: Republicans actually did sit at the table until the infamous August 2009 recess. Then they bailed, either due to fear or cynicism (probably both).

"Health care not only is 16% of the gross national product, but it touches the quality of life of every household as few others do. I'm doing everything I can to make the reform effort in Congress a bipartisan one." -Chuck Grassley (R-IA), April 2009

Once Republicans decided en masse to oppose health care reform, they turned intransigence into an artform.
 
2012-11-05 01:10:42 PM

eurotrader: The Republican Party can return to its roots of smaller less intrusive government and social equality that changing demographics require


When were they ever really about smaller Government? They've claimed to be for smaller Government and 'states rights' for as long as I can remember, but I've never actually seen it.

'States Rights' is the cry of the party out of power.
 
2012-11-05 01:42:28 PM
Rush Limbaugh needs to inadvertently OxyContin himself to death by accident.
 
2012-11-05 01:48:32 PM
I approve of this. Hopefully they thin themselves out.
 
2012-11-05 01:49:10 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: civil


Damn, beat me to it.
 
2012-11-05 01:51:07 PM
Civil war within the GOP ranks? Really?

OK then ...

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2012-11-05 01:51:15 PM

raerae1980: FTA: "This is why, in every election, since 1992, Democrats have either won the White House or fallen a single state short of the presidency."

Is this true? I was 12 in 1992 so I don't know.


No one under the age of 33 is allowed to use Google. It's the law.
 
2012-11-05 01:52:32 PM
Imagine if Romney wins and the Dems follow the GOP obstructionist, filibuster road map how mad they'll be. Only they can be party before country dickbags.
 
2012-11-05 01:52:45 PM

This Is Bold Text: The funny thing is that if the GOP loses, they're going to say "You know what our problem is? We weren't conservative enough!"

I want to see them rename themselves The Christian Patriot Party.


They have already said this before and they will say it even louder next time. Do they honestly think Michele Bachmann has a prayer in the national elections?

The fact that the GOP believes it and has said it publicly should be frighening enough to scare any moderate away.
 
2012-11-05 01:53:28 PM

Nogrhi: James!: growing cleavage on foreign policy 
 
growing cleavage on foreign policy 
 
growing cleavage!

This post useless without pics of impressive foreign cleavage.


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foreign cleavage has my attention
 
2012-11-05 01:53:46 PM

FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 500x375]


i46.tinypic.com

Bumped for necessity.
Not 20 minutes ago, I was scanning through the radio and was blessed to hear Glenn Derp. Sure enough, he yammered about the following: 1.) We are a Christian nation. 2.) Christians cannot ever vote for the evil Democratic party. 3.) Working with Democrats is compromising your faith, and Glenn's not saying you're going to Hell for it but you're going to Hell for it.

This is what they believe. They want a theocracy.
 
2012-11-05 01:54:15 PM

eurotrader: The choice will be simple after this election. The Republican Party can return to its roots of smaller less intrusive government and social equality that changing demographics require or it can continue on the destructive path that W was the start of and just change the name to evangelical Christian Republican Party and just accept permanent minority status. Any sane person who has any memory would see the problem with the current party that would consider Reagan too far left for them now. Still happy the out of the current crop that ran for the nomination Romney took the prize the rest are all outright Looney.


Compromise is not an evil word and having both parties worked together is the only way things will change for the better. The Dems have an inability to compromise as well, see the biggest piece of legislation in the last 25 years and absolutely no input from the republicans and because of that Obamacare is doomed to failure even if it would have been well written, (horribly written piece of legislation that causes more harm than good).


What. The. Fark. Are. You. Talking. About?

/let me guess - so vote Rapeublican?
 
2012-11-05 01:54:35 PM

eurotrader: The choice will be simple after this election. The Republican Party can return to its roots of smaller less intrusive government and social equality that changing demographics require or it can continue on the destructive path that W was the start of and just change the name to evangelical Christian Republican Party and just accept permanent minority status. Any sane person who has any memory would see the problem with the current party that would consider Reagan too far left for them now. Still happy the out of the current crop that ran for the nomination Romney took the prize the rest are all outright Looney.
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That goes a lot further back than W. It started when Reagan courted Fallwell and his cross bearing fascist brigade.
 
2012-11-05 01:54:42 PM

FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 500x375]


and this guy was considered too radical for the conservatives.
Oh my.
 
2012-11-05 01:55:35 PM
Republicans can win back women who share their views on defense and taxes but they are going to have a hard time with minorities but if they have a shot at all it would be with socially conservative Hispanics. They need to really ignore the whitey-blowhardy-douchebag types for the next few elections. Those guys are not going anywhere, just give them some lib service in the primaries and then ignore.
 
2012-11-05 01:56:54 PM

Cythraul: This Is Bold Text: The funny thing is that if the GOP loses, they're going to say "You know what our problem is? We weren't conservative enough!"

I want to see them rename themselves The Christian Patriot Party.

They'd rename themselves to the GGG, the God, Guns, and Gays party, but they're probably afraid the latter part would be misunderstood and make them look like homosexuals.


Or just make "God's Official Party" official and they won't even have to change the acronym.
 
2012-11-05 01:58:05 PM
Today's GOP is the greatest threat the GOP has ever faced.
 
2012-11-05 01:59:25 PM

eurotrader: The Dems have an inability to compromise as well, see the biggest piece of legislation in the last 25 years and absolutely no input from the republicans and because of that Obamacare is doomed to failure even if it would have been well written,


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I'm sure like a dozen people have already pointed out why this is wrong so I'm just going to copy and paste some more ha's.

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2012-11-05 01:59:48 PM
The GOP: Now 50% more Theo in their Fascism!

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2012-11-05 02:00:14 PM
WTF is a "Red Dawn Republican"? Someone who grew up watching that movie? What a dumbass thing to call yourself.
 
2012-11-05 02:00:53 PM

Granny_Panties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the GOP has ever faced.


Needs to be added to the list!
 
2012-11-05 02:00:57 PM
Now's as good a place as any to call it:

The GOP will make a huge move to court the Hispanic vote if Romney loses. The GOP will chill on immigration until 2014 when they will aggressively push pro-Hispanic immigration reform while massaging their social conservatism to be more appealing to Hispanics. Rubio will be on the next Presidential ticket.

That or the GOP faces a long and lonely walk in the wilderness.
 
2012-11-05 02:00:58 PM

mrshowrules: GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.

There was a civil war against chickens.


That was far from civil.
 
2012-11-05 02:01:15 PM

GAT_00: We said this in 2008 too. It didn't happen.


Yup and then 2010 came and filled their derp sails with Teatard farts, pushing them over the finish line. It's going to take a 2-3 consecutive election cycle dick stomping to actually cause any permanent change within the GOP. So:

2012: Dick Stomped

2014: They keep the same course as 2010-2012: "If WE can't have American then NOBODY can" Result: Dick Stomped

2016: ???
 
2012-11-05 02:01:26 PM

eurotrader: The Dems have an inability to compromise as well


The fark are you smoking? The Dems have compromised themselves into becoming a party that is now slightly right-of-center on a historical political compass. They've compromised themselves raw forf*cksake...
 
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