AbbeySomeone: For every story like hers there is at least 1 that gets knocked up and feels entitled to gov't assistance.
ongbok: PsiChick: skullkrusher: PsiChick: That woman was pregnant with a 1-year-old babywell that's the problem. She's an elephant. Elephants can't find good work these daysongbok: PsiChick: No Such Agency: Once a friend posted on their Facebook wall about my book, and somebody said, "You and your children should have just died instead of take money from the government."Just a troll, thankfully. You see, genuine welfare abolitionists are THINKING that, but they generally don't actually SAY it.How welfare changed meThose four years on welfare made me a better person. ... Today I budget very precisely, even with my six-figure income. All those years I would walk through a department store and know I couldn't afford to buy anything. I've never quite lost that. I have a mindset of, "I could buy that, but eh, it's not that important to me."And here we see the difference between over-privileged middle-class idiots who run themselves into horrible consumer debt because they just "deserve" a certain material lifestyle, and someone who has stared privation in the face and survived.Sadly she is one of the lucky ones: she got a few breaks like her parents agreeing to help her again (and just coming from a family that valued education and career). Without that luck, it's almost impossible for someone to pull themselves out of poverty, because simply surviving takes every moment, dollar and calorie of their life.Her parents were f**king assholes. That woman was pregnant with a 1-year-old baby, her ex was threatening to take the baby, and what do they say? "WE didn't approve, so TWO CHILDREN CAN SUFFER! HA! TAKE THAT!".I'd like to think they recanted because a little talking cricket gave them a good hard bite.I bet that was a tough labor. I hope she had a c section, because if she didn't her coochie was ruined for all others....And this, kids, is why we hit the 'preview' button. Also, why commas are important.The kid could have come out and walked across the d ...
AbbeySomeone: goatleggedfellow: So this all started when her husband walked away from his obligations and left her neglected and destitute.Nice microcosm of conservative culture in this country. The winners can never win enough and the losers can never lose enough.This. men are never blamed for any of thses stories.
Imma get you barefoot and pregnant but don't worry, I'll be barefoot too in sympathy
AbbeySomeone: Tell you what middle class white guy - when your life falls apart and you have to lower yourself to walk into a welfare office you can get back to me on what it is like OK. While you are in that office take time to experience the people around you.
udhq: I don't necessarily approve of the anti-welfare thing, but I get it. I lost my home and business to a fire a couple of years ago, and ended up living on the street for a while. I'm still pretty liberal, but that experience definitely pushed me to the right.It was basically all about the realization that the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism were true: the world is a zero-sum jungle, and eventually, as a matter literally of survival, people have to decide whether they want to be predators or prey. In most of the industrialized world, we are lucky to have corporations take on that moral burden on our behalf, but it's still there. In this country, thanks to cheap consumer goods, we live fairly well because of the fact that a lot of people in China live like slaves.And that realization has definitely changed a lot of my consumption choices, but I'm afraid I'm in the vast minority.
sweetmelissa31: I didn't read the story, but I'm assuming her church helped her back on her feet.
jst3p: I lived most of my 20's below the poverty line. I now have a six figure (barely) income. The guy in the cube next to me has a similar story.I don't understand how having lived through it he toes the party (GoP) line when it comes to the mythical welfare queen. I look at my life as a success story, but I have some natural advantages (I am fairly intelligent, white and male. That's a pretty good start.) I also see that social mobility like mine is becoming less and less possible as the wealth gap increases and the middle class shrinks. This is a direct result of "supply side", "trickle down", or "tax cuts for job creator" policies but the guy in the next cube is the embodiment of "I got mine, fark you!". Having lived so broke I don't understand how he can be so cold to people who genuinly need help and want nothng more than to be off public assistance.
Zapruder: [www.panelsonpages.com image 500x305]Just trying to get their dreams in order.
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