Liberals worry that somewhere, someone is experiencing something bad they don't deserve. Conservatives worry that somewhere, someone is experiencing something good they don't deserve.

Just trying to get their dreams in order.

Duh, she's white.

She can't be a real welfare mother - she's not black with six kids.

/end sarcasm

Duh, she's white.

Real welfare recipients are black.

And everyone knows that Obama is just trying to get more free stuff to black people.


/I was actually told this by a conservative family member when every other talking point was exposed as fiction.

Cadillac?
Rims?
Lobster?

Democrats think handouts are good - because people might need them.

Republicans think handouts are the worst thing ever - except when someone they know takes one.

And this kind of double-think is crippling progress in our country. They aren't even really liberal or conservative viewpoints... just sensible versus short-sighted.

Zapruder: [www.panelsonpages.com image 500x305]
Just trying to get their dreams in order.

"Hi! I'm a recovering crack addict and this is my retarded sister, we'd like some welfare please!"

what welfare queens might look like

I lived most of my 20's below the poverty line. I now have a six figure (barely) income. The guy in the cube next to me has a similar story.

I don't understand how having lived through it he toes the party (GoP) line when it comes to the mythical welfare queen. I look at my life as a success story, but I have some natural advantages (I am fairly intelligent, white and male. That's a pretty good start.) I also see that social mobility like mine is becoming less and less possible as the wealth gap increases and the middle class shrinks. This is a direct result of "supply side", "trickle down", or "tax cuts for job creator" policies but the guy in the next cube is the embodiment of "I got mine, fark you!". Having lived so broke I don't understand how he can be so cold to people who genuinly need help and want nothng more than to be off public assistance.

Once a friend posted on their Facebook wall about my book, and somebody said, "You and your children should have just died instead of take money from the government."

Just a troll, thankfully. You see, genuine welfare abolitionists are THINKING that, but they generally don't actually SAY it.

How welfare changed me
Those four years on welfare made me a better person. ... Today I budget very precisely, even with my six-figure income. All those years I would walk through a department store and know I couldn't afford to buy anything. I've never quite lost that. I have a mindset of, "I could buy that, but eh, it's not that important to me."

And here we see the difference between over-privileged middle-class idiots who run themselves into horrible consumer debt because they just "deserve" a certain material lifestyle, and someone who has stared privation in the face and survived.

Sadly she is one of the lucky ones: she got a few breaks like her parents agreeing to help her again (and just coming from a family that valued education and career). Without that luck, it's almost impossible for someone to pull themselves out of poverty, because simply surviving takes every moment, dollar and calorie of their life.

But don't forget that the GOP is the party of Jesus, from whom they derive their moral compass. So either Jesus is a sociopathic coont, or all Republicans are hypocritical, sociopathic coonts. It is absolutely either one or the other, with no possible third alternative.

So: Who's the sociopathic coont? Jesus or the GOP?

Divorce is one of the biggest causes of women and children going on welfare. The lengths that some men (and yes, sometimes women) will go to to stop their CHILDREN from getting a dime is honestly beyond me. I've seen people go from staunchly middle class to welfare in a heartbeat if their ex starts playing around with child support and alimony, and there's only so much the legal system can do if the debtor/earner is self-employed or not employed at all.

Sure, there are some moochers out there, but in my experience, the vast majority want to get OFF welfare, and just don't have the means or ability to do so.

If everyone in this country was white, no one would be concerned about welfare.

Whenever I get into any political argument with the few Republicans I know, EVERY debate, EVERY argument comes back to "Well I don't want lazy black people getting my money."

EVERY time.

Biff_Steel: Duh, she's white.

Looks like I am about 20 minutes late.

Biff_Steel: Duh, she's white.

The average recipient is white and lives in a rural county. She is also a she.

dericwater: jst3p: I lived most of my 20's below the poverty line. I now have a six figure (barely) income. The guy in the cube next to me has a similar story.

I don't understand how having lived through it he toes the party (GoP) line when it comes to the mythical welfare queen. I look at my life as a success story, but I have some natural advantages (I am fairly intelligent, white and male. That's a pretty good start.) I also see that social mobility like mine is becoming less and less possible as the wealth gap increases and the middle class shrinks. This is a direct result of "supply side", "trickle down", or "tax cuts for job creator" policies but the guy in the next cube is the embodiment of "I got mine, fark you!". Having lived so broke I don't understand how he can be so cold to people who genuinly need help and want nothng more than to be off public assistance.

Cue the Craig T. Nelson quote.

Holy shiat... did he just say... Wow. Yeah, that sounds about like my cube neighbor.

But no TRUE welfare queen lives like that. Take it from me,



I'm a TRUE Scotsman!!!

MFAWG: Biff_Steel: Duh, she's white.

The average recipient is white and lives in a rural county. She is also a she.

thatsthejoke.

liam76: Biff_Steel: Duh, she's white.

Looks like I am about 20 minutes late.

Nobody hit the refrigerator or cell phone comment yet...

I didn't read the article, but I assume a job creator gave her some bootstraps.

jst3p: I don't understand how he can be so cold to people who genuinely need help and want nothng more than to be off public assistance.

Because he is cruel.

It's an unsatisfying reason, but it's the reason.

Rapmaster2000: I didn't read the article, but I assume a job creator gave her some bootstraps.

nah, her parents paid for her night classes. You'd think that they'd have helped her earlier.

skullkrusher: Rapmaster2000: I didn't read the article, but I assume a job creator gave her some bootstraps.

nah, her parents paid for her night classes. You'd think that they'd have helped her earlier.

They tried, but she married him anyway.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: "Fresh beans when canned are half the price."

As a Californian, I must be spoiled. Fresh produce is almost always less expensive than anything processed. Not to mention that canned beans are an abomination.

It was intersting to suddenly see, during Sandy, that government assistance and "handouts" were okay.

People needed diapers, water, shelter and the government helped.

Guess what --- there are people living like that EVERY DAY. But lets not help those people out.

jst3p: skullkrusher: Rapmaster2000: I didn't read the article, but I assume a job creator gave her some bootstraps.

nah, her parents paid for her night classes. You'd think that they'd have helped her earlier.

They tried, but she married him anyway.

hehe after that. What sort of parents tell their kid to fark off and struggle because he or she made a choice that they disapproved of? It's not like she was a drug addict or alcoholic where support can be a form of enabling. She was just broke with 2 of their grandkids to care for

Man, what a moocher. Get a jerb.

I'm surprised she could type all of that with her buttery, fat lobster-coated fingers.

/Hope that I never need assistance
//Current job doesn't offer unemployment insurance

born_yesterday: //Current job doesn't offer unemployment insurance

you should work on the books ;)