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(AlterNet)   Romney would steer us towards a capitalist dictatorship   (alternet.org) divider line 73
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2012-11-05 08:50:45 AM
Whatever's going on here sure as shiat isn't capitalism.

In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.
 
2012-11-05 08:55:52 AM
That should say "Romney will..."
 
2012-11-05 09:01:27 AM
I thought we already had the best government that money can buy, but I can see Romney sending it further down the tube.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 09:11:18 AM

Gulper Eel: Whatever's going on here sure as shiat isn't capitalism.

In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.


Well, if free market capitalism that's true, but most "free market" capitalists want to be free to control the market. They don't want laissez faire capitalism.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 09:13:15 AM
I think an oligarchy where people like the Koch brothers run things is more likely. That's pretty much the way most of the world works.
 
2012-11-05 09:19:55 AM
Towards?

I think the question is which candidate will steer us even deeper into a capitalist dictatorship. One will do it more reservedly, the other will burn rubber to get us there.
 
2012-11-05 09:39:38 AM
Absolutely not. He will, on day one, transform us into a kleptocracy by executive decree.

Hey, if everyone insists on calling Obama every ridiculous hyperbolic term in the book, I can do it, too.

I'll have none of this reasonable and more realistic terminology such as "steer."
 
2012-11-05 10:31:52 AM
unlikely

He'll do exactly what Bush and Reagan did, which is redistribute wealth to the upper tiers of society.
 
2012-11-05 10:32:52 AM
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2012-11-05 10:33:49 AM
I'd love to see a state petition to leave the US and join Canada if Romney wins.
 
2012-11-05 10:34:14 AM
And by "Capitalist Dictatorship" you mean "plutocracy and oligarchy". In other words, Feudalism. Feudalism is the inevitable result of Republican policy. Unfortunately, no Republican politicians are brave enough to just say it, and no Republican voters are smart enough to know what "feudalism" means.
 
2012-11-05 10:34:17 AM

Gulper Eel: Whatever's going on here sure as shiat isn't capitalism.

In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.


"State-sponsored capitalism"?

I'd love to be a military contractor or a health insurance company right about now.
 
2012-11-05 10:34:40 AM
Under a Capitalist system, Man exploits Man.
under a communist one, its just the opposite.

--Renowned American Economist John Kenneth Galbraith.



Capitalism run amuck is little different than Communism in the long haul. which, of course, makes me a Democratic Socialist.
 
2012-11-05 10:36:14 AM

Gulper Eel: Whatever's going on here sure as shiat isn't capitalism.

In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.




no its not Capitalism. its Crony capitalism. and its little different than communism or fascism.
 
2012-11-05 10:36:47 AM

Lost Thought 00: unlikely

He'll do exactly what Bush and Reagan

and Clinton and Obama and Republican and Democratic controlled Congresses did, which is redistribute wealth to the upper tiers of society.
 
2012-11-05 10:36:58 AM

vpb: I think an oligarchy where people like the Koch brothers run things is more likely. That's pretty much the way most of the world works.



Plutocracy - rule by the wealthy.
 
2012-11-05 10:37:27 AM

wippit: I'd love to see a state petition to leave the US and join Canada if Romney wins.


Don't let the door hit ya...

/actually, let it.
 
2012-11-05 10:37:46 AM

cubic_spleen: And by "Capitalist Dictatorship" you mean "plutocracy and oligarchy". In other words, Feudalism. Feudalism is the inevitable result of Republican policy. Unfortunately, no Republican politicians are brave enough to just say it, and no Republican voters are smart enough to know what "feudalism" means.



those republicans miss the 'good ole' days', no doubt.
 
2012-11-05 10:37:51 AM
Does this mean we will never find out what was in Romney's taxes?
 
2012-11-05 10:38:21 AM
I wish there was a candidate that would steer us toward a dictatorship of the proletariat.
 
2012-11-05 10:38:27 AM

Lost Thought 00: unlikely

He'll do exactly what Bush and Reagan did, which is redistribute wealth to the upper tiers of society.




they call that "Freedom".
 
2012-11-05 10:38:57 AM
One of the main goals of capitalism is to exclude everyone who isn't already a capitalist from getting in the game.
 
2012-11-05 10:38:59 AM

MechaDupek: wippit: I'd love to see a state petition to leave the US and join Canada if Romney wins.

Don't let the door hit ya...

/actually, let it.


Actually... I'd be the one opening the door, eh?
 
2012-11-05 10:39:35 AM
Obvious tag called out sick to go doorknocking?
 
2012-11-05 10:40:36 AM
In the end, Romney would make of the US everything that we supposedly fought against during and after WWII and supposedly were against during the Cold War.

Scary to even contemplate. To paraphrase Pogo, "We have met the enemy, and they is us."
 
2012-11-05 10:41:32 AM

ghare: One of the main goals of capitalism is to exclude everyone who isn't already a capitalist from getting in the game.


Uh huh... apparently the capitalists aren't very good at it.

Gulper Eel: In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.


Well, yea... but good luck getting anyone to realize that they are the problem.
 
2012-11-05 10:41:51 AM
I thought that was called fascism.
 
2012-11-05 10:42:06 AM
It takes almost no time at all for the average person to pick out the tree hugging, anti-gun, pro-communist half-witted individuals on almost any website or gathering in real life just by the very fact that they can't keep their mouths shut about their politics for even one second.
 
2012-11-05 10:43:24 AM
What happened to the OBVIOUS tag? Is it tying a dog carrier to the top of a car and can't be bothered?
 
2012-11-05 10:43:26 AM

Gulper Eel: In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.


Wouldn't capitalism allow for the rich and powerful to use their wealth to buy whatever influence was required to make themselves more profitable? That's what it is all about, using everything at your disposal to maximize profit.
 
2012-11-05 10:43:42 AM

poorcku: It takes almost no time at all for the average person to pick out the tree hugging, anti-gun, pro-communist half-witted individuals on almost any website or gathering in real life just by the very fact that they can't keep their mouths shut about their politics for even one second.


Go hug a tree then.
 
2012-11-05 10:45:20 AM

ghare: One of the main goals of capitalism is to exclude everyone who isn't already a capitalist from getting in the game.




Capitalism unchecked by the Federal Government (one that answers to The People, not companies/wealthy folks) concentrates more and more wealth into fewer and fewer hands over time. that is Unamerican and our Nation will fade away in the long haul if this happens because our strong and prosperous middle class has always been our source of strength in the world and what has made us unique.

--Linux_Yes.

thank you, autographs after the election. kneel before me now.
 
2012-11-05 10:47:02 AM

dervish16108: In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.


Unless the president is a democrat and that business is a union shop.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 10:47:05 AM
I know that all the Foxers and CNNers out there wouldn't know it, but aren't we pretty much there?

Obama is a corporatist (though not a rabid one like Romney) and he pretty much lets the CEO class do whatever the hell they want regardless of the DERP said about him...
 
2012-11-05 10:47:10 AM

poorcku: or gathering in real life just by the very fact that they can't keep their mouths shut about their politics for even one second.


curious where you live, because where I am in one of the bluest areas of the country I have the opposite experience.
 
2012-11-05 10:47:17 AM
We're already living in one, subby.

Making money for someone>living one's life
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-05 10:48:01 AM

Linux_Yes: Lost Thought 00: unlikely

He'll do exactly what Bush and Reagan did, which is redistribute wealth to the upper tiers of society.



they call that "Freedom".


Freedom to grind you under their heel.
 
2012-11-05 10:52:14 AM

AurizenDarkstar: In the end, Romney would make of the US everything that we supposedly fought against during and after WWII and supposedly were against during the Cold War.

Scary to even contemplate. To paraphrase Pogo, "We have met the enemy, and they is us."

be we.

/pet peeve
 
2012-11-05 10:53:29 AM

manfriend: dervish16108: In capitalism, businesses can fail no matter how many friends they buy in Washington.

Unless the president is a democrat and that business is a union shop.


I hate to tell you this but Bush first initiated the auto industry bailout and AIG wasn't a union shop.
 
2012-11-05 10:55:33 AM
Article appears to be oblivious to the fact that the USA isn't a democracy and the intent of the founding fathers was only to allow white, land owning males to vote.

The idea of people being allowed to vote who don't pay taxes would have been utterly revolting to them.
 
2012-11-05 10:56:40 AM
State sponsored capitalism? Oh you mean fascism. Yeah we're already there
 
2012-11-05 10:57:42 AM
Has anyone yet mentioned that we don't have capitalism in this country, and Romney would move us further away from it?

I wonder how many Republicans have actually read what Adam Smith had to say about government regulating business...
 
2012-11-05 11:01:52 AM
lol okay so what do we have now? social democracy?  Tell that to the short-order cooks and warehouse stockers and other precarious workers making minimum wage with no benefits and no savings. Oh but all you have to do is vote Obama and everything will be fine.
 
2012-11-05 11:04:31 AM

LazarusLong42: Has anyone yet mentioned that we don't have capitalism in this country, and Romney would move us further away from it?

I wonder how many Republicans have actually read what Adam Smith had to say about government regulating business...


Canada is ranked by the Wall Street Journal (official analysis) as having freer markets than the US.

If Canada has a higher taxes, stronger regulation of the financial sector and universal health care, how does that work?
 
2012-11-05 11:04:54 AM

RanDomino: lol okay so what do we have now? social democracy?  Tell that to the short-order cooks and warehouse stockers and other precarious workers making minimum wage with no benefits and no savings. Oh but all you have to do is vote Obama and everything will be fine.


This is going to be my standard reply to you from now on:

politicalmadness.org
 
2012-11-05 11:05:43 AM

mrshowrules: Does this mean we will never find out what was in Romney's taxes?


0 there was a big fat 0 in Romney's taxes from 2000-2009, Romney paid no taxes, he then paid taxes in 2010 & 2011 in anticipation of running for President.
 
2012-11-05 11:08:58 AM

RanDomino: lol okay so what do we have now? social democracy?  Tell that to the short-order cooks and warehouse stockers and other precarious workers making minimum wage with no benefits and no savings. Oh but all you have to do is vote Obama and everything will be fine.


Well, put down that bag of Cheetos and RISE UP, comrade!
 
2012-11-05 11:09:46 AM
whidbey
politicalmadness.org

Good. I don't want to be helping you. We're not on the same side.
 
2012-11-05 11:11:46 AM

RanDomino: whidbey
politicalmadness.org

Good. I don't want to be helping you. We're not on the same side.


LOL so you're just going to support your "team," huh?

Isn't that the kind of crap you always give me?
 
2012-11-05 11:12:33 AM
A country where the average CEO makes 500X his lowest level worker is not capitalist. No one is 500X more talented or competent than anyone else, there is just not that much variation in the human species.

What we have is a system that allows the "winners" to manipulate markets to their advantage with impunity. A free market is one where two parties can compete by trying to make better products, not one where they can compete by using their scale to try and restrict access to the market by potential competitors.
 
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