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2012-11-05 08:29:44 AM
This may be my "must watch" race tomorrow. Warren winning will be a stinging slap to the Republicans, and the beginning of six years of serious support of worker/consumer protections.

Oh please...oh please...
 
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2012-11-05 08:56:55 AM
Right. Even if the majority of polls show something different, the outlier that says what you want to hear is the one that's right.

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2012-11-05 09:01:45 AM
I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.
 
2012-11-05 09:17:41 AM

Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.


You know what else else? The Herald, which is like the NYPost of Boston, did an interesting piece yesterday (I only saw the cover, I was getting coffee and didn't want to pollute my mind) about how if Obama wins what the domino effect in MA will be. Basically, if Obama pulls a win, he'll take Kerry as Sec. of State (finally) which will lead to a special election and then an interesting 2014 governor race and then the 2016 presidential race.

/I don't mind Kerry in the Senate, but he's been vying for this job forever.
//I also don't like senators/congresscritters that have been around for-god-farking-ever
///Warren/Brown Senate representation!
////never gonna happen
 
2012-11-05 09:52:30 AM

somedude210: Basically, if Obama pulls a win, he'll take Kerry as Sec. of State (finally) which will lead to a special election and then an interesting 2014 governor race and then the 2016 presidential race.


I'm good with Kerry as Sec of State.
But I think it would be quite hiliarious to watch the the GOP heads exploding if Obama picks Ellison instead.
 
2012-11-05 10:06:48 AM

Via Infinito: somedude210: Basically, if Obama pulls a win, he'll take Kerry as Sec. of State (finally) which will lead to a special election and then an interesting 2014 governor race and then the 2016 presidential race.

I'm good with Kerry as Sec of State.
But I think it would be quite hiliarious to watch the the GOP heads exploding if Obama picks Ellison instead.


I think that would cause Kerry's head to explode. He's all but biting at the bit for the Sec. of State job
 
2012-11-05 11:15:58 AM
Who winning what now? Context, subby. Local election and all.
 
2012-11-05 11:18:53 AM

Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.


Me too, except I'd vote for Brown.
 
2012-11-05 11:21:03 AM

Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.


I don't live in the state but I still gave her money.
 
2012-11-05 11:22:10 AM
Payne and Domke (Click and Clack of Politics) were on WBUR this morning. In the piece, they basically laid out how difficult it will actually be for Brown to hold the seat. Not impossible, but the numbers are actually much harder than the polls suggest. Even Domke, the Republican acknowledged as much.

Going to Warren rally tonight.
 
2012-11-05 11:24:51 AM

Cletus C.: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

Me too, except I'd vote for Brown.


You saw his naked photos, eh?
 
2012-11-05 11:28:24 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

Me too, except I'd vote for Brown.

You saw his naked photos, eh?


I am guessing he saw the photos of his daughters.
 
2012-11-05 11:28:37 AM
Go Liz!

Brown really screwed himself with women voters in the debates. Came off like an arrogant, unprepared clod, and looked like he was trying to bully Warren.

Meanwhile, Warren continued to hammer him on his voting record and his so-called "moderate independence" to which Brown had no defense except to make hay out of the "Cherokee" nonsense.

This MAsshole is voting Obama, Warren, and Kennedy.

No GOP politician will be getting a vote from me in the foreseeable future.
 
2012-11-05 11:28:43 AM
As a Massachusetts resident I am still undecided. I've decided I'm not voting for Brown, but I don't know if I'm willing to pull the lever for Warren.
 
2012-11-05 11:30:05 AM

sdd2000: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

Me too, except I'd vote for Brown.

You saw his naked photos, eh?

I am guessing he saw the photos of his daughters.


Saw both and left satisfied.
 
2012-11-05 11:36:06 AM

Cletus C.: Saw both and left satisfied.


Now that we know what you base your votes on, your posts make a lot more sense.
 
2012-11-05 11:39:49 AM

somedude210: Via Infinito: somedude210: Basically, if Obama pulls a win, he'll take Kerry as Sec. of State (finally) which will lead to a special election and then an interesting 2014 governor race and then the 2016 presidential race.

I'm good with Kerry as Sec of State.
But I think it would be quite hiliarious to watch the the GOP heads exploding if Obama picks Ellison instead.

I think that would cause Kerry's head to explode. He's all but biting at the bit for the Sec. of State job


Would he be any good at it?
 
2012-11-05 11:40:42 AM
Hard to find current polling data for Kennedy/Bielat in MA district 4 (Barney Frank's district), but this old poll before Kennedy had even announced (but was expected to) should give you an idea of the chances Bielat has:

Kennedy +32
 
2012-11-05 11:42:12 AM

dahmers love zombie: This may be my "must watch" race tomorrow. Warren winning will be a stinging slap to the Republicans, and the beginning of six years of serious support of worker/consumer protections.

Oh please...oh please...


Imagine being a scumbag billionaire mogul who makes his fortune paying peanuts to your workers, not only being deprived of a President Romney who would have carved up America like a Thanksgiving turkey for you to devour, but to also have Warren around to punch you in the junk every time you try to pollute a community or expose your workers to deadly conditions.

Oh, it's gonna absolutely SUCK to be an evil billionaire very soon.
 
2012-11-05 11:42:18 AM

The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Saw both and left satisfied.

Now that we know what you base your votes on, your posts make a lot more sense.


The fact he's hot and has hot daughters are just a bonus. I think Brown is part of the solution to the gridlock in D.C. He's moderate in every sense, well unless you believe the "sense" that comes from political commercials. Warren seems like she'll just help solidify the entrenchment.
 
2012-11-05 11:42:32 AM

keylock71: This MAsshole is voting Obama, Warren, and Kennedy.


Wait, you're in my district? No shiat. My buddy is one of the Warren field ops for Spilka's district.


FarkedOver: As a Massachusetts resident I am still undecided. I've decided I'm not voting for Brown, but I don't know if I'm willing to pull the lever for Warren.


If I may ask, why not Brown and why not Warren? I have my reasons for not voting Brown despite voting for him the first time. (mostly because he's an asshat who's "Independence" occurs only when his party doesn't actually need the vote because the bill isn't going to pass anyway)
 
2012-11-05 11:43:17 AM

FarkedOver: As a Massachusetts resident I am still undecided. I've decided I'm not voting for Brown, but I don't know if I'm willing to pull the lever for Warren.


d1k217qge1tz5p.cloudfront.net
 
2012-11-05 11:45:12 AM

somedude210: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

You know what else else? The Herald, which is like the NYPost of Boston, did an interesting piece yesterday (I only saw the cover, I was getting coffee and didn't want to pollute my mind) about how if Obama wins what the domino effect in MA will be. Basically, if Obama pulls a win, he'll take Kerry as Sec. of State (finally) which will lead to a special election and then an interesting 2014 governor race and then the 2016 presidential race.

/I don't mind Kerry in the Senate, but he's been vying for this job forever.
//I also don't like senators/congresscritters that have been around for-god-farking-ever
///Warren/Brown Senate representation!
////never gonna happen


Kerry as Secretary of State? Lulz. I guess I'm not a huge follower of politics if it comes as a surprise to me.

I'm so glad Brown is getting kicked out on his sorry ass tomorrow. Everything he has done in his campaign against Warren has amounted to tomfoolery. No one gives a flying fark about whether or not she's Native American except for him, and he's based his whole damn campaign on it. Before the campaigning began, I was ok with him. Probably still voting for Warren, but I wouldn't have been mad if he won. But all of the BS he's done this campaign season has diminished my opinion of him forever and I hope he goes down in flames.
 
2012-11-05 11:46:14 AM
Elizabeth Warren 2016.
 
2012-11-05 11:46:31 AM

keylock71: Hard to find current polling data for Kennedy/Bielat in MA district 4 (Barney Frank's district), but this old poll before Kennedy had even announced (but was expected to) should give you an idea of the chances Bielat has:

Kennedy +32


Bielat's issue is that he is an actual "carpetbagger" (not like Warren who has actually lived here for the last 20 years). He moved here to run against Frank, then left after the loss and then came back when Frank announced his retirement. (also, apparently, he ran in NY for a senate seat once as a Democrat). I just don't trust Bielat, and I don't really know why. There's just something about him that screams Teabagger.

Kennedy's issue is that he's inexperienced and a Kennedy. He seems like a decent guy though.

/The Tearney/Tasai(sp?) race is gonna be a doozy though
 
2012-11-05 11:48:27 AM

keylock71: Hard to find current polling data for Kennedy/Bielat in MA district 4 (Barney Frank's district), but this old poll before Kennedy had even announced (but was expected to) should give you an idea of the chances Bielat has:

Kennedy +32


JK3 actually came by my office a few months ago. I doubt that any of my family is voting for him, but my dad did seem impressed that he was a boat guy.
 
2012-11-05 11:48:29 AM

somedude210: keylock71: This MAsshole is voting Obama, Warren, and Kennedy.

Wait, you're in my district? No shiat. My buddy is one of the Warren field ops for Spilka's district.


FarkedOver: As a Massachusetts resident I am still undecided. I've decided I'm not voting for Brown, but I don't know if I'm willing to pull the lever for Warren.

If I may ask, why not Brown and why not Warren? I have my reasons for not voting Brown despite voting for him the first time. (mostly because he's an asshat who's "Independence" occurs only when his party doesn't actually need the vote because the bill isn't going to pass anyway)


I'm in the newly redrawn 4th District. In North Fall River.

www.wrhammons.com
 
2012-11-05 11:48:55 AM

Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.


If she wins this race, you'll get your chance to vote for her soon enough. She'll be running for President by 2024 at the latest.
 
2012-11-05 11:49:02 AM

Demetrius: Elizabeth Warren 2016.


No, fark you. She's ours.
 
2012-11-05 11:50:42 AM

HeartBurnKid: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

If she wins this race, you'll get your chance to vote for her soon enough. She'll be running for President by 2024 at the latest.


I really hope it doesn't take that long! She doesn't look it but she's already in her 60's.
 
2012-11-05 11:51:35 AM

TheSelphie: somedude210: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

You know what else else? The Herald, which is like the NYPost of Boston, did an interesting piece yesterday (I only saw the cover, I was getting coffee and didn't want to pollute my mind) about how if Obama wins what the domino effect in MA will be. Basically, if Obama pulls a win, he'll take Kerry as Sec. of State (finally) which will lead to a special election and then an interesting 2014 governor race and then the 2016 presidential race.

/I don't mind Kerry in the Senate, but he's been vying for this job forever.
//I also don't like senators/congresscritters that have been around for-god-farking-ever
///Warren/Brown Senate representation!
////never gonna happen

Kerry as Secretary of State? Lulz. I guess I'm not a huge follower of politics if it comes as a surprise to me.

I'm so glad Brown is getting kicked out on his sorry ass tomorrow. Everything he has done in his campaign against Warren has amounted to tomfoolery. No one gives a flying fark about whether or not she's Native American except for him, and he's based his whole damn campaign on it. Before the campaigning began, I was ok with him. Probably still voting for Warren, but I wouldn't have been mad if he won. But all of the BS he's done this campaign season has diminished my opinion of him forever and I hope he goes down in flames.


This

Voted for him in the special election because Coakley was a stain but he made a bad call this campaign (in addition to his voting record)

If he had laid off the "She's a injun!" talk, this would be a lot closer
 
2012-11-05 11:54:09 AM

Klivian: "She's a injun!" talk,


That's what did it for you? Not the disgusting lies about her involvement with the asbestos settlement?
 
2012-11-05 11:54:23 AM

somedude210: keylock71: Hard to find current polling data for Kennedy/Bielat in MA district 4 (Barney Frank's district), but this old poll before Kennedy had even announced (but was expected to) should give you an idea of the chances Bielat has:

Kennedy +32

Bielat's issue is that he is an actual "carpetbagger" (not like Warren who has actually lived here for the last 20 years). He moved here to run against Frank, then left after the loss and then came back when Frank announced his retirement. (also, apparently, he ran in NY for a senate seat once as a Democrat). I just don't trust Bielat, and I don't really know why. There's just something about him that screams Teabagger.

Kennedy's issue is that he's inexperienced and a Kennedy. He seems like a decent guy though.

/The Tearney/Tasai(sp?) race is gonna be a doozy though


Yeah, I'm actually sad to see Barney Frank retire... He was a great Rep. I didn't always agree with him, but he didn't suffer fools gladly and he always said what he thought. His people helped the wife and I out greatly last year with a tax problem we were having.

Agreed... I don't trust Bielat. He hardly ever comes down to my neck of the woods and he just spouts the usual GOP talking points. Fark that noise.

Don't know if Kennedy will be as effective as Frank, but I like what he's saying and He seems smart enough to pick up where Frank left off.

Jackson Herring: JK3 actually came by my office a few months ago. I doubt that any of my family is voting for him, but my dad did seem impressed that he was a boat guy.


He's spent a lot of time down here in Fall River unlike Bielat. We often get ignored down here as you know. Frank was one of the few folks who actually spent a lot of time down here talking to folks. Seems like Kennedy would continue that.
 
2012-11-05 11:56:00 AM

Jackson Herring: Klivian: "She's a injun!" talk,

That's what did it for you? Not the disgusting lies about her involvement with the asbestos settlement?


Try READING my post
 
2012-11-05 11:56:58 AM

Jackson Herring: Klivian: "She's a injun!" talk,

That's what did it for you? Not the disgusting lies about her involvement with the asbestos settlement?


Jackson Herring: Klivian: "She's a injun!" talk,

That's what did it for you? Not the disgusting lies about her involvement with the asbestos settlement?


That was disgusting... Then he had the balls to accuse her of using actors in the counter ads.
 
2012-11-05 11:58:26 AM

Demetrius: Elizabeth Warren 2016.


not sure you want that.
 
2012-11-05 11:59:13 AM

keylock71: He's spent a lot of time down here in Fall River unlike Bielat. We often get ignored down here as you know. Frank was one of the few folks who actually spent a lot of time down here talking to folks. Seems like Kennedy would continue that.


He's actually not going to be my rep, I get to choose between Keating and Sheldon now.
 
2012-11-05 11:59:14 AM

keylock71: He's spent a lot of time down here in Fall River unlike Bielat. We often get ignored down here as you know. Frank was one of the few folks who actually spent a lot of time down here talking to folks. Seems like Kennedy would continue that.


Kennedy has been chilling out alot in Franklin too. He joined forces with the Warren campaign a month or so ago and they've been really getting a lot of campaigning done around here. Still doesn't stop my buddy from begging me every weekend to help them call people.

/sadly, I passed up the chance to meet Kennedy a few times this election season.
//but then again, I got laid during those times, so it wasn't a total loss
///I love the new gf :D
 
2012-11-05 12:00:19 PM

Via Infinito: HeartBurnKid: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

If she wins this race, you'll get your chance to vote for her soon enough. She'll be running for President by 2024 at the latest.

I really hope it doesn't take that long! She doesn't look it but she's already in her 60's.


I'm just thinking she might hold off from 2016 because, let's face it, she won't have a lot of experience at that point. Which means, if another Democrat wins, she'd have to wait until 2024.

Then again, Obama pulled off the "one term Senator, straight to the Presidency" bit. So we'll see.
 
2012-11-05 12:00:59 PM
I'll be voting for Warren and I have no doubt that she is gonna win. I'd bet cash money on it. Also too, medical marijuana will easily pass.

/you're welcome
 
2012-11-05 12:06:55 PM

AkaDad: I'll be voting for Warren and I have no doubt that she is gonna win. I'd bet cash money on it. Also too, medical marijuana will easily pass.

/you're welcome


I completely forgot that MMJ was on the ballot this year. And assisted suicide. Both good measures that will hopefully pass.

We need to get all the MA farkers together for an election night rally. Or a beer drinking rally that isn't the Southie pub crawl on St. Patty's
 
2012-11-05 12:08:41 PM

somedude210: AkaDad: I'll be voting for Warren and I have no doubt that she is gonna win. I'd bet cash money on it. Also too, medical marijuana will easily pass.

/you're welcome

I completely forgot that MMJ was on the ballot this year. And assisted suicide. Both good measures that will hopefully pass.

We need to get all the MA farkers together for an election night rally. Or a beer drinking rally that isn't the Southie pub crawl on St. Patty's


Hey, it was Harvard Square this year, not Southie
 
2012-11-05 12:12:30 PM

somedude210: AkaDad: I'll be voting for Warren and I have no doubt that she is gonna win. I'd bet cash money on it. Also too, medical marijuana will easily pass.

/you're welcome

I completely forgot that MMJ was on the ballot this year. And assisted suicide. Both good measures that will hopefully pass.

We need to get all the MA farkers together for an election night rally. Or a beer drinking rally that isn't the Southie pub crawl on St. Patty's


My super-Catholic great-aunt sent me "No on 2" propaganda in the mail the other day. So dumb. Really hope 2 passes.
 
2012-11-05 12:13:18 PM

Jackson Herring: He's actually not going to be my rep, I get to choose between Keating and Sheldon now.


Haven't been following that one too closely... Looks like Keating's got the edge around here if lawn signs are any indication. : )
 
2012-11-05 12:19:13 PM

Cletus C.: The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Saw both and left satisfied.

Now that we know what you base your votes on, your posts make a lot more sense.

The fact he's hot and has hot daughters are just a bonus. I think Brown is part of the solution to the gridlock in D.C. He's moderate in every sense, well unless you believe the "sense" that comes from political commercials. Warren seems like she'll just help solidify the entrenchment.


He's moderate only so far as McTurtle and Friends will let him.
 
2012-11-05 12:20:46 PM

skullkrusher: Demetrius: Elizabeth Warren 2016.

not sure you want that.


Because Martha Coakley might run for Senate again?
 
2012-11-05 12:21:24 PM
another subby who doesn't understand what margin of error means.

why r hour kids not learnin?
 
2012-11-05 12:22:49 PM

Via Infinito: HeartBurnKid: Via Infinito: I have many reasons for wishing I lived in Massachusetts.
Getting to vote for Elizabeth Warren would be right up there at the top of the list.

If she wins this race, you'll get your chance to vote for her soon enough. She'll be running for President by 2024 at the latest.

I really hope it doesn't take that long! She doesn't look it but she's already in her 60's.


She'll be Hillary's running mate in 2016, making it the first all-gal ticket.

/And lickety-split, too.
 
2012-11-05 12:22:53 PM

keylock71: Jackson Herring: He's actually not going to be my rep, I get to choose between Keating and Sheldon now.

Haven't been following that one too closely... Looks like Keating's got the edge around here if lawn signs are any indication. : )


At least you two don't have to decide between Lynch and Selvaggi. I can't believe I have to choose between a social conservative who voted for the Iraq War (thereby costing him my vote) and a derper. Oh well, I'll write someone in if I can. At least I get to vote for Warren.
 
2012-11-05 12:24:55 PM

Jackson Herring: Demetrius: Elizabeth Warren 2016.

No, fark you. She's ours.


Stop that! We can share!
 
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