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2012-11-05 08:15:07 AM  
But he seemed so electable.

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2012-11-05 08:31:40 AM  
We're tucked
 
2012-11-05 08:40:16 AM  
So if Obama manages to defeat Mitt Romney's on Tuesday, the Republican Party will have to go through a painful process of self-examination and internal debate in order to explain what went so badly wrong.

The debate won't just be fodder for political obsessives: it will also determine how Republicans approach governing next year and how the party campaigns in 2014, 2016 and beyond.


I think Politico has an overly (delusionally) optimistic idea of the Republican Party to perform the type of insightful analysis needed to understand where they went wrong. I think they'll fight the legitimacy of the election tooth and nail, and never accept that Obama actually scored more votes than their candidate.
 
2012-11-05 08:41:49 AM  
You're all screwed.
 
2012-11-05 08:44:36 AM  

SurfaceTension: So if Obama manages to defeat Mitt Romney's on Tuesday, the Republican Party will have to go through a painful process of self-examination and internal debate in order to explain what went so badly wrong.

The debate won't just be fodder for political obsessives: it will also determine how Republicans approach governing next year and how the party campaigns in 2014, 2016 and beyond.

I think Politico has an overly (delusionally) optimistic idea of the Republican Party to perform the type of insightful analysis needed to understand where they went wrong. I think they'll fight the legitimacy of the election tooth and nail, and never accept that Obama actually scored more votes than their candidate.


And if they do ever accept it, they'll think the only reason they lost is because Mitt Romney was too liberal and go further off the deep end.
 
2012-11-05 08:45:53 AM  
"For Republicans, the only thing harder than losing to Barack Obama might be explaining it."

Yes, that might require soul-searching, and an ability to comprehend reality.
 
2012-11-05 08:46:41 AM  
You misspelled "when," subby.
 
2012-11-05 08:51:43 AM  

bloobeary: "For Republicans, the only thing harder than losing to Barack Obama might be explaining it."

Yes, that might require soul-searching, and an ability to comprehend reality.


It'll be the same thing as every other time things don't go conservatives' way. It won't be their fault. It was the media. Soros. West Nile virus keeping Republicans from the polls. Those two New Black Panther guys. Aliens.

"Personal Responsibilitytm also means owning your mistakes.
 
2012-11-05 09:00:26 AM  
DRINK
 
2012-11-05 09:19:19 AM  

dickfreckle: You misspelled "when," subby article writer.


FTFY

/subby
 
2012-11-05 09:28:56 AM  
I'll be able to get up Wednesday morning without wanting to hang myself.
 
2012-11-05 09:32:26 AM  

thismomentinblackhistory: DRINK


In order to stay sober tomorrow night, I will only drink one beer for each state Rmoney wins.
 
2012-11-05 09:35:08 AM  
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This is where the Tea Party goes berserk.
 
2012-11-05 09:50:40 AM  
If it becomes a close election, with recounts and Obama ultimately winning. Deal with it. Be the people you told others to be when Bush won in a fair electoral process.
 
2012-11-05 09:52:42 AM  
I am already considering leaving this country even w/Obama at the helm. There has been no progress on debts and deficits, although marginal progress has been made on the economy (to Obama's full credit). It's clear that the GOP has almost a solid control of legislatures and governorships in a number of states, as well as a solid block of GOP Congressmen. Nothing will get done.

Under Romney nothing will get done either. Except probably another conservative on SCOTUS. farking great.

I mean how farking horrible do you have to be to be at such a low approval rating and yet maybe only 5 seats will go blue in 2012? The presidential election has completely covered up how much the Tea Party has ruined this country.

Plus I'm already very disappointed that an unprincipled wealthy elite who blatantly lies to people is a hair's breadth away from the White House. I mean, come the fark on people.
 
2012-11-05 09:55:31 AM  
If Rmoney loses, we all win
 
2012-11-05 10:07:31 AM  

bdub77: There has been no progress on debts and deficits


The deficit is lower than when Obama took office. The debt is not.
 
2012-11-05 10:16:24 AM  
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2012-11-05 10:23:12 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: bdub77: There has been no progress on debts and deficits

The deficit is lower than when Obama took office. The debt is not.


I don't blame him for it, but it's not really progress in the sense that it's still really friggin high - $1 trillion a year is just bad. That's something like 7% of our annual GDP. Even if Obama were somehow magically able to get it down to $400 billion a year - it's still too f*cking high IMO. 100, 200 billion - those are more sustainable levels. Probably not achievable for another 8 years at least, unless we start seeing a real uptick in GDP growth and unemployment go down more.

Again, the real problem is not the president but Congress. Congress has to act to get anything accomplished w/respect to the deficits.
 
2012-11-05 10:31:21 AM  

bdub77: I don't blame him for it, but it's not really progress in the sense that it's still really friggin high - $1 trillion a year is just bad.


If you ignore the progress because you consider it not big enough than yes it's not really progress.
 
2012-11-05 10:38:46 AM  

SurfaceTension: So if Obama manages to defeat Mitt Romney's on Tuesday, the Republican Party will have to go through a painful process of self-examination and internal debate in order to explain what went so badly wrong.

The debate won't just be fodder for political obsessives: it will also determine how Republicans approach governing next year and how the party campaigns in 2014, 2016 and beyond.

I think Politico has an overly (delusionally) optimistic idea of the Republican Party to perform the type of insightful analysis needed to understand where they went wrong. I think they'll fight the legitimacy of the election tooth and nail, and never accept that Obama actually scored more votes than their candidate.


Steve Schmidt, when asked this morning about what will happen in the Republican party if they lose the Presidential race on Tuesday, described what will happen as "civil war in the party".

I think he's right.
 
2012-11-05 10:55:16 AM  

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I think the last place one should be on election night is the Fark Politics page. 
 
2012-11-05 11:04:26 AM  
The hint from Reid being reelected only because Sharron Angle acted like the crazy cat woman should have been enough. A cardboard cutout would have beat Reid but instead a caricature of all that is wrong with the republican party lost to a reviled man. The problem is in the senate and the lack of any compromise on both sides. I do not see Obama being able to craft anything to solve problems that will pass so Romney is the best bet for change now.
 
2012-11-05 11:12:02 AM  
For Republicans, the only thing harder than losing to Barack Obama might be explaining it.

Well, that's really easy. You ran Mitt Romney. And he's an awful, awful candidate. And he ran an awful campaign. Oh, and your party's core beliefs are just awful too.
 
2012-11-05 11:13:25 AM  

bloobeary: "For Republicans, the only thing harder than losing to Barack Obama might be explaining it."

Yes, that might require soul-searching, and an ability to comprehend reality.


And therefore, nothing will be done by the GOP, post-election, to make any changes to deal with the loss. Nothing.
In order to find something which was done wrong, you would need to be able to admit you made a mistake.
The last mistake that the GOP party made was Barry Goldwater in 1964.

The GOP is the party of perfection, of putting the blame anywhere, but where it actually belongs.
When they lose tuesday, it will be the beginning of the end of the modern day GOP. The GOP of 2016 will look the same and lose again. In 2020, they will either need to jettison the fringe right or fade away.

Time will tell.
 
2012-11-05 11:14:03 AM  
If Mitt Romney loses that Angel will finally reappear and show us the original form of those Golden Tablets...
 
2012-11-05 11:14:54 AM  

Lando Lincoln: For Republicans, the only thing harder than losing to Barack Obama might be explaining it.

Well, that's really easy. You ran Mitt Romney. And he's an awful, awful candidate. And he ran an awful campaign. Oh, and your party's core beliefs are just awful too.


look at the people who ran this term. A collection of nut jobs. Where were the real candidates? Oh wait, Huntsman and Pawlenty pulled out of the race early. Why is that? Primary system that failed? Party that rejects moderation??
 
2012-11-05 11:15:35 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: If Mitt Romney loses that Angel will finally reappear and show us the original form of those Golden Tablets and Mitt's long form tax returns for the last 10 years.

 
2012-11-05 11:25:22 AM  
If/when Romney loses...the GOP will freak the f*ck out. they'll lose their shiat. they'll spend a day in shocked silence, then 4-5 days vomiting blood and screaming at the heavens. after that, they'll have an indeterminate period of figuring out who's going to fall on their sword(s) and arrange the sacrifice. further out, the GOP will conclude that their faith was obviously weak and that they weren't far enough to the right...so they'll conduct another tiresome purge of the party and dedicate themselves to being jerks towards Obama until the midterm congressional elections in 2014.

But that's just like...my opinion man.
 
2012-11-05 11:26:48 AM  
There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Gnashing and wailing of teeth?
 
2012-11-05 11:32:48 AM  
Even Obama says we are not in better shape than 4 years ago. How the hell is this even a contest?! Failure after failure after failure and the few things he did get done were really bad ideas! I'm not saying he's purposefully trying to hurt this country, but if he was I don't know what he would do differently! And he has a chance for a second term?!
 
2012-11-05 11:36:37 AM  

Weaver95: If/when Romney loses...the GOP will freak the f*ck out. they'll lose their shiat. they'll spend a day in shocked silence, then 4-5 days vomiting blood and screaming at the heavens. after that, they'll have an indeterminate period of figuring out who's going to fall on their sword(s) and arrange the sacrifice. further out, the GOP will conclude that their faith was obviously weak and that they weren't far enough to the right...so they'll conduct another tiresome purge of the party and dedicate themselves to being jerks towards Obama until the midterm congressional elections in 2014.

But that's just like...my opinion man.


And if/when Romney wins the DNC is just going to laugh it off shake their hands?
 
2012-11-05 11:40:20 AM  

Weaver95: If/when Romney loses...the GOP will freak the f*ck out. they'll lose their shiat. they'll spend a day in shocked silence, then 4-5 days vomiting blood and screaming at the heavens. after that, they'll have an indeterminate period of figuring out who's going to fall on their sword(s) and arrange the sacrifice. further out, the GOP will conclude that their faith was obviously weak and that they weren't far enough to the right...so they'll conduct another tiresome purge of the party and dedicate themselves to being jerks towards Obama until the midterm congressional elections in 2014.

But that's just like...my opinion man.


I'm gonna have to agree with you. Obama is tired of their sh*t. He's going to let the Bush tax cuts expire, which is going to inflame them. Republicans will spend more time working out ways to sabotage the 2016 election than do work in Congress.

My guess:
- try to infiltrate state legislatures
- continue to primary out moderates
- try to take over governorships in battleground states
- try to take over the Secretary of State offices in battleground states
- try to get more voter ID laws passed
- push even stronger their social conservative agenda
- whip the rural voters into more of a froth (who will be 'energized' by the loss to Obama)

Congress will be a thorn in the side of the president for the foreseeable future. That's my guess. Gridlock will be blamed on the president...same old, same old.

From the amount of frenzy, it appears the GOP is going to be farking with us for another good decade before they start dying out.
 
2012-11-05 11:40:33 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How the hell is this even a contest?!


Because you live in an alternate reality.
 
2012-11-05 11:47:24 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Even Obama says we are not in better shape than 4 years ago. How the hell is this even a contest?! Failure after failure after failure and the few things he did get done were really bad ideas! I'm not saying he's purposefully trying to hurt this country, but if he was I don't know what he would do differently! And he has a chance for a second term?!


Well for one your video was October of 2011, a full year ago, and the truth is that the country wasn't better off than October 2007, which was by almost all accounts the height of the bubble boom and just when the house of cards was coming crashing down. Nor was October of 2011 better than it was January of 2009.

However, a year later, the country is almost by any measure better off in November of 2012 than January of 2009, and despite two years of Congressional deadlock on agenda items that would be good for the economy.

He's done a lot for this country, in a number of different ways, and we're better off for it. But then, I don't expect you to understand, you're an idiot who uses a Youtube video from over a year ago to make a point.
 
2012-11-05 11:55:29 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Failure after failure after failure and the few things he did get done were really bad ideas!


Passing Obamacare was not a really bad idea. It was a really good idea.

Yes, we are way better off now than four years ago.
 
2012-11-05 11:59:00 AM  
Hey Dems. Seeing at the derp from the last president was so attractive and successful. Let's vote in an Atheist lesbian middle-eastern woman who is transgendering into a man for the next president.
 
2012-11-05 12:01:21 PM  
* When
 
2012-11-05 12:01:33 PM  

Makh: Hey Dems. Seeing at the derp from the last president was so attractive and successful. Let's vote in an Atheist lesbian middle-eastern woman who is transgendering into a man for the next president.


DNRTFP due to Word Salad.
 
2012-11-05 12:01:55 PM  
More than anything, I'm looking forward to the serious case studies on what happened to the race between the first and second debates.
 
2012-11-05 12:03:27 PM  
Oh, I've saved up my schadenfreude for the Romney concession speech. I am positively swelling with schadenfreude.
 
2012-11-05 12:04:45 PM  
2ND AMENDMENT SOLUTION!!!!!!
 
2012-11-05 12:04:48 PM  
Democrats had branded Romney as a "wealthy plutocrat married to a known equestrian."

is being married to a lady who rides horses some terrible sin?

/ if i was branding people, i try to find something negative or relevant.
 
2012-11-05 12:05:16 PM  

Makh: Hey Dems. Seeing at the derp from the last president was so attractive and successful. Let's vote in an Atheist lesbian middle-eastern woman who is transgendering into a man for the next president.


If she/he had good policies, I absolutely have no problem with that.
 
2012-11-05 12:05:45 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Even Obama says we are not in better shape than 4 years ago. How the hell is this even a contest?! Failure after failure after failure and the few things he did get done were really bad ideas! I'm not saying he's purposefully trying to hurt this country, but if he was I don't know what he would do differently! And he has a chance for a second term?!


Well you are a Republican, and if anything 2000-2008 has shown us, do the opposite of what a Republican wants. Its usually right.
 
2012-11-05 12:05:55 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Democrats had branded Romney as a "wealthy plutocrat married to a known equestrian."

is being married to a lady who rides horses some terrible sin?

/ if i was branding people, i try to find something negative or relevant.


They're using known in the biblical sense.
 
2012-11-05 12:06:06 PM  
Hey Politico. Please point to the one who would have done better. Second from right? Uh, maybe. But isn't he Mormon?

i.i.com.com
 
2012-11-05 12:07:10 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Oh, I've saved up my schadenfreude for the Romney concession speech. I am positively swelling with schadenfreude.


I hadn't thought about that... now I'm really looking forward to it.

He'll be grinding his teeth so hard you could bolt him to a South African diamond mine ore crusher and double its output.
 
2012-11-05 12:08:35 PM  

SurfaceTension: So if Obama manages to defeat Mitt Romney's on Tuesday, the Republican Party will have to go through a painful process of self-examination and internal debate in order to explain what went so badly wrong.

The debate won't just be fodder for political obsessives: it will also determine how Republicans approach governing next year and how the party campaigns in 2014, 2016 and beyond.

I think Politico has an overly (delusionally) optimistic idea of the Republican Party to perform the type of insightful analysis needed to understand where they went wrong. I think they'll fight the legitimacy of the election tooth and nail, and never accept that Obama actually scored more votes than their candidate.


Yep, and

Aarontology: And if they do ever accept it, they'll think the only reason they lost is because Mitt Romney was too liberal and go further off the deep end.


Yep. We're done here, folks.
 
2012-11-05 12:12:41 PM  
Politico Politico
derpa derpa
 
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