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(Crystal Ball)   Right wing blame game begins: Sandy washed away Romney's chances - Larry Sabato   (centerforpolitics.org) divider line 74
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2012-11-05 08:15:31 AM  
But wasn't Sandy a manifestation of God's wrath toward the people of the Northeast for voting to kill babies and help the loathsome underprivileged?
 
2012-11-05 08:26:11 AM  
Damn you Obama Weather Machine!
 
2012-11-05 08:30:40 AM  

TeddyBallGame: But wasn't Sandy a manifestation of God's wrath toward the people of the Northeast for voting to kill babies and help the loathsome underprivileged?


Yes, but the hurricane was only God's messenger. The real punishment is going to be Obama's re-election. See, God is angry enough that he has chosen to essentially deny us the salvation that a Romney presidency would have brought, and we have only ourselves to blame.
 
2012-11-05 09:02:19 AM  
Jesus, this asshole actually laments that the president responded to a natural disaster. In his world, it would be preferable that Obama abandoned the victims.
 
2012-11-05 09:18:30 AM  
because Romney was thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close to winning the Northeast.
 
2012-11-05 09:36:04 AM  

dickfreckle: Jesus, this asshole actually laments that the president responded to a natural disaster. In his world, it would be preferable that Obama abandoned the victims.


How dare the uppity president act like he's in charge. Doesn't he know his place by now? I bet he used his Chicago mob ties to threaten Christie into playing ball the Chicago Way.
 
2012-11-05 09:47:55 AM  

dickfreckle: Jesus, this asshole actually laments that the president responded to a natural disaster. In his world, it would be preferable that Obama abandoned the victims.


Wasn't Rush Limbaugh cackling that Obama was forced to suspend his campaign in order to do his job?
 
2012-11-05 09:56:25 AM  

dickfreckle: Jesus, this asshole actually laments that the president responded to a natural disaster. In his world, it would be preferable that Obama abandoned the victims.


add him to the pile of people who seem to think that christie doing anything other than punching the sitting US president in the balls was ideological treason.

it takes a long and windy road to get to a point where i'm looking at somebody criticizing chris christie, and find myself on his side of the conversation.
 
2012-11-05 10:01:29 AM  
Are you sure you want to go down that route, Republicans? Mitigating problems like Sandy will require seriously tackling climate change or implementing a Dutch-style system for controlling coastal floods. Both require Big Government™.
 
2012-11-05 11:20:00 AM  
They were just dying for this to be Obama's Katrina forgetting, of course, that Bush set the standard by which all future disaster responses will be judged.
It really is a shame that Obama chose competent people to head the agency, now all they have is that he responded to efficiently.
 
2012-11-05 11:27:02 AM  
The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong, but it won't make a difference if the people in the blue states affected are hampered when trying to vote.
 
2012-11-05 11:27:41 AM  
The big story that we will hear Wednesday AM: "GOP picks up two governorships, there is a mandate for Republicans in the USA"
 
2012-11-05 11:31:11 AM  
Actually, I DO think Sandy did some serious damage to Romney's campaign. Not only did he continuously put his foot in his mouth the entire week, his FEMA comments from the 2011 debates came back to bite him in the ass. And he still doubled-down on that asinine stance for the first few days of the the storm, changing his mind only when he saw how much praise Obama & FEMA were getting for their handling of the aftermath.

Top that off w/his ridiculous photo-op of standing in front of a table of relief items he planned to ship to NJ and he once again came across as an out-of-touch idiot. ThatGuyFromTheInternet summed up that stunt up best in a thread from yesterday:

asianconservatives.com
www.theblaze.com
 
2012-11-05 11:34:52 AM  

brigid_fitch: And he still doubled-down on that asinine stance for the first few days of the the storm, changing his mind only when he saw how much praise Obama & FEMA were getting for their handling of the aftermath.


And hardly the first time he stalled until he could assess the popularity (or lack thereof) of something. Combined with the obvious about-face switheroos, I don't know how anyone could vote for him. Regardless of ideological bent.

Plus, when he tries to get in front of a story, he botches that, too. Libya is a fine example of that.
 
2012-11-05 11:47:14 AM  

EvilEgg: They were just dying for this to be Obama's Katrina forgetting, of course, that Bush set the standard by which all future disaster responses will be judged.
It really is a shame that Obama chose competent people to head the agency, now all they have is that he responded to efficiently.


But... but... Staten Island!
 
2012-11-05 11:55:26 AM  
 
2012-11-05 11:56:05 AM  
Ah yes America. Where stupid white people can continue to show the results of generations of inbreeding.
 
2012-11-05 11:56:32 AM  
Sandy is what Republican vaginas will be on Wednesday.
 
2012-11-05 11:57:12 AM  
How dare the black man not live up to my stereotypes. What a racist
 
2012-11-05 11:57:32 AM  
Were NJ or NY ever in play for Rmoney?
 
2012-11-05 11:57:47 AM  
"GOD HAZ UH LIBRUL BUYUSS!"
 
2012-11-05 11:57:53 AM  
Hey, my first greenlight! Thanks guys! =D
 
2012-11-05 11:58:03 AM  
img2.timeinc.net
R.I.P. Larry Sabato
 
2012-11-05 11:58:14 AM  

Diogenes: The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong, but it won't make a difference if the people in the blue states affected are hampered when trying to vote.


In NJ, there is a HUGE push to get information out to people. As of Wednesday, you could hand in a mail-in ballot at your county clerk's office. When it became apparent that most people were still out-of-state because only 40% had electricity, you could email or fax your mail-in ballot. Between radio, TV, Facebook, & Twitter, word-of-mouth, and megaphone, this info is getting out there.

I'm not worried about voter intimidation here--there really has never been a history of it. Worst I've ever seen is electioneering near polling places but that gets clamped down pretty quickly.
 
2012-11-05 11:58:39 AM  
The thing about hurricanes: they ALWAYS spin to the left.
 
2012-11-05 11:58:55 AM  
It was the storm that did us in, not our stance on rapebortion.
 
2012-11-05 11:58:57 AM  

Diogenes: The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong, but it won't make a difference if the people in the blue states affected are hampered when trying to vote.


Um... Electoral College much?
 
2012-11-05 11:59:44 AM  
This is the weird things about conservatives. Obama is a do nothign empty suit to them, but they also blame Obama doe doing things with a positive effect. So to the, he both does nothign and does too much at the same time.
 
2012-11-05 12:00:24 PM  
The Right Wing is expert at few things. One of them is expertly finding ways of providing continuity to their delusions. They are already preparing themselves for overlooking (or completely not noticing) the reasons why Romney was a poor candidate and the basic Republican platform is unpalatable for masses of Americans.

It goes without saying, but is nevertheless important to say, the GOP, their handlers, their loyal fanbase WILL NOT take their lessons. They'd rather blame everything on a regional storm.
 
2012-11-05 12:00:40 PM  
Obama handled the crisis after Sandy incredibly well. He got high praise from both Christie and Bloomburg. Obama effective management of the crisis will resonate in Florida which gets hits with a lot of hurricanes plus it has a lot of New York/New Jersey transplants.

Obama wins Florida -- book it!
 
2012-11-05 12:00:51 PM  
Sandy got 2 people closer to being president

msnbcmedia4.msn.com

Mitt got himself farther away, sandy just pointed it out more...
 
2012-11-05 12:00:52 PM  

Diogenes: The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong, but it won't make a difference if the people in the blue states affected are hampered when trying to vote.


Fox News is trying very hard to make it appear as if FEMA's response has been entirely inadequate and that blame for everything from the storm itself through the lack of power lies squarely with Obama.
 
2012-11-05 12:01:20 PM  
The GOP is now officially a Scooby Doo villain.
And they would've gotten away with it, if not for that lousy hurricane.
 
2012-11-05 12:01:57 PM  
God sent a hurricane to shut down day one of the Republican convention, and then another one to seal the deal for Obama.

Pretty clear whose side God is on this time.
 
2012-11-05 12:02:29 PM  
Check out Colbert's 10/31 show

/got it on the tube, now
 
2012-11-05 12:03:29 PM  
Sandy destroyed all of Romney's back tax reurns.
 
2012-11-05 12:04:33 PM  

Lumpmoose: Are you sure you want to go down that route, Republicans? Mitigating problems like Sandy will require seriously tackling climate change or implementing a Dutch-style system for controlling coastal floods. Both require Big Government™.


Mitt-igate?
 
2012-11-05 12:04:59 PM  

Boxcutta: Diogenes: The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong, but it won't make a difference if the people in the blue states affected are hampered when trying to vote.

Fox News is trying very hard to make it appear as if FEMA's response has been entirely inadequate and that blame for everything from the storm itself through the lack of power lies squarely with Obama.


Maybe Obama used his weather machine as a way to pull further ahead in the polls, can never be too careful...
 
2012-11-05 12:05:18 PM  

dickfreckle: Jesus, this asshole actually laments that the president responded to a natural disaster. In his world, it would be preferable that Obama abandoned the victims.


I didn't see any lamentation in that article. It seemed to be a pretty matter-of-factly piece.
 
2012-11-05 12:05:26 PM  
Subby, it sounds like God casted a vote in this election then.
 
2012-11-05 12:06:48 PM  
msnbcmedia4.msn.com

"Great job, Governor. I had Biden bring you that autographed washcloth on a stick you wanted."
 
2012-11-05 12:09:29 PM  
Has anyone ever noticed how fat Christie is?
 
2012-11-05 12:11:48 PM  
Awwwwww.

Pouting and shedding tears before the eggs have begun to hatch, you brave gun-brandishing
tough-talking red-blooded Wolverines?
 
2012-11-05 12:12:15 PM  

Pocket Ninja: TeddyBallGame: But wasn't Sandy a manifestation of God's wrath toward the people of the Northeast for voting to kill babies and help the loathsome underprivileged?

Yes, but the hurricane was only God's messenger. The real punishment is going to be Obama's re-election. See, God is angry enough that he has chosen to essentially deny us the salvation that a Romney presidency would have brought, and we have only ourselves to blame.


Heheheheheheheh....
 
2012-11-05 12:12:42 PM  
"This guarantees that a victorious Obama would be the first president ever who failed to win an additional state in his successful reelection bid that he did not win in his initial victory. (We are not counting FDR's third and fourth elections.)"

Because, you know, I guess that would make the story about "that guy" not as bad as we want it to be.
 
2012-11-05 12:13:32 PM  

monoski: Were NJ or NY ever in play for Rmoney?

Right because only NY and NJ cares about Obama doing a competent job about their disaster relief. *facepalm*
 
2012-11-05 12:14:07 PM  
Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.
 
2012-11-05 12:16:26 PM  

Muta: Has anyone ever noticed how fat Christie is?


Even Google Earth noticed and classifies him as a landmark.
 
2012-11-05 12:20:23 PM  
Sandy was the Irish Setter on the car roof, right?
 
2012-11-05 12:21:23 PM  

Diogenes: The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong


That only works if he actually is strong.
 
2012-11-05 12:24:02 PM  

Muta: Has anyone ever noticed how fat Christie is?


I think you're the first one on Fark to ever notice that.
 
2012-11-05 12:24:31 PM  
www.whatacharacter.com
 
2012-11-05 12:24:45 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: The thing about hurricanes: they ALWAYS spin to the left.


Rove blames Obama victory on Coriolis Effect and Joe Bidet. 

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-05 12:26:40 PM  

AkaDad: Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.


Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

Christie has at least 4 years to kiss butt if Romney wins.
 
2012-11-05 12:31:36 PM  

Aldon: AkaDad: Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.

Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

Christie has at least 4 years to kiss butt if Romney wins.


I think they un-person both, but I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice before.
 
2012-11-05 12:38:29 PM  

AkaDad: Aldon: AkaDad: Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.

Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

Christie has at least 4 years to kiss butt if Romney wins.

I think they un-person both, but I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice before.


Mitt already said he's not running again, if Mitt loses the GOP needs to kiss a HUGE Christie ass since he would have a clear path for the next election.

/especially showing he can work both sides and his eff you speech to people asking why he let Obama help NJ so close to elections...
 
2012-11-05 12:39:53 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: The thing about hurricanes: they ALWAYS spin to the left in the positive direction in the Z Axis, as long as they are in the northern hemisphere.


More precise.

Oh fark. That was a joke. Shiat. Sorry. sorry.
 
2012-11-05 12:42:05 PM  
What I find humorous is the difference in how hurricanes "change the game" traditionally for Democrats and Republicans. Republicans lose elections by their incompetence in handling the damage done by hurricanes while in contrast President Obama has probably ensured his re-election by his competence in handling the damage done by a hurricane.
 
2012-11-05 12:58:43 PM  

Boxcutta: Diogenes: The storm could make Obama look incredibly strong, but it won't make a difference if the people in the blue states affected are hampered when trying to vote.

Fox News is trying very hard to make it appear as if FEMA's response has been entirely inadequate and that blame for everything from the storm itself through the lack of power lies squarely with Obama.


Obama would create a storm that would interfere with his lock on a state. That's how evil he is.
 
2012-11-05 01:04:15 PM  

Hogbreath: Sandy destroyed all of Romney's back tax returns.


and Snooki's porch
 
2012-11-05 01:05:19 PM  
Aldon 2012-11-05 12:26:40 PM

Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

If R-MONEY LOOK AT ME!! LOOK AT ME!! I HAVE MONEY AND MANY SONS!!!1! loses,
I want him to vanish like a popcorn fart in the Sahara Desert.

I want people to say "Go-olly, I dunno, Sarge!" while very thoughtfully picking their noses two years from right now when asked
"Who was that guy who ran against Obama in 2012?"

I want him to sink into the dread obscurity of the lost pharaohs in the ancient Valley of the Kings whose tombs were looted
thousands of years ago, while he is still breathing.

Nothin' personal, mind you.
 
2012-11-05 01:06:03 PM  
Yeah, Obama gives a very attentive response to the weather....underground.
 
2012-11-05 01:09:18 PM  
I guess Larry Sabato is now a right-wing hack?

Did anyone even read the article??
 
2012-11-05 01:20:51 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Yeah, Obama gives a very attentive response to the weather....underground.


....groan...
 
2012-11-05 01:35:40 PM  

dickfreckle: Jesus, this asshole actually laments that the president responded to a natural disaster. In his world, it would be preferable that Obama abandoned the victims.


I didn't read it that way. I read him describing what happened as a misfortune for Romney, not for everyone. Larry Sabato is an academic, and while he's conservative compared to me, that's not exactly surprising.... so is Obama.

Has he endorsed Romney somewhere that I haven't seen?
 
2012-11-05 01:40:52 PM  
Not sure where all of you are getting the idea that Sabato is an anti-Obama conservative, when he has always been a very liberal democrat.
 
2012-11-05 01:50:48 PM  

protectyourlimbs: AkaDad: Aldon: AkaDad: Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.

Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

Christie has at least 4 years to kiss butt if Romney wins.

I think they un-person both, but I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice before.

Mitt already said he's not running again, if Mitt loses the GOP needs to kiss a HUGE Christie ass since he would have a clear path for the next election.

/especially showing he can work both sides and his eff you speech to people asking why he let Obama help NJ so close to elections...


The GOP may have un-personed Bush but the base never did. How many "Miss me yet?" stickers, posters, and forum posts do we STILL see? However, I do think they'll distance the hell away from Mitt at the first possible chance--like around 8pm tomorrow. The base never liked him and are only voting for him because he's not Obama. And face it, that's the only real motivation the Tea Party has ever had. We've seen time and time again that it's not Obama's policies they despise, it's merely the fact that Obama supported them.

As for what the GOP will do w/Christie, I don't know. If Bachmann, Akins, & Mourdock lose MAYBE the GOP will begin to regain some semblance of sanity and look for a more moderate candidate like Christie seems to be painting himself in the past week. But it's really hard to predict the Teabaggers. They may still argue that they lost because Romney wasn't conservative enough and go even FARTHER right. I fully expect a tight primary between Jeb Bush & Christie in a few years. And I honestly can't even guess who'd win that one.
 
2012-11-05 01:55:26 PM  

Corvus: monoski: Were NJ or NY ever in play for Rmoney?
Right because only NY and NJ cares about Obama doing a competent job about their disaster relief. *facepalm*


Do you really think Real Americanstm care about NY & NJ
 
2012-11-05 02:34:05 PM  
Yes, Hurricane Sandy forced Romney to show the country and the WORLD that he has absolutely no idea what people in need actually require, but he DOES know how to pose for a photo-op.
 
2012-11-05 03:34:03 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Yeah, Obama gives a very attentive response to the weather....underground.


static.thereckoner.net
 
2012-11-05 04:05:08 PM  

ghare: God sent a hurricane to shut down day one of the Republican convention, and then another one to seal the deal for Obama.

Pretty clear whose side God is on this time.



April, 2011: Texas Governor Rick Perry calls for the state residents to pray for the end of the drought.

Summer of 2011: Drought continues to worsen.

September 2011: Much of the state is now on fire.

October 2011: Atheist Alliance International holds their 4th annual Texas Freethought Convention in Houston. On the last day of the convention, it rains.


If you're the kind of person who believes stuff like this more than coincidence...
=Smidge=
 
2012-11-05 05:09:17 PM  

brigid_fitch: protectyourlimbs: AkaDad: Aldon: AkaDad: Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.

Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

Christie has at least 4 years to kiss butt if Romney wins.

I think they un-person both, but I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice before.

Mitt already said he's not running again, if Mitt loses the GOP needs to kiss a HUGE Christie ass since he would have a clear path for the next election.

/especially showing he can work both sides and his eff you speech to people asking why he let Obama help NJ so close to elections...

The GOP may have un-personed Bush but the base never did. How many "Miss me yet?" stickers, posters, and forum posts do we STILL see? However, I do think they'll distance the hell away from Mitt at the first possible chance--like around 8pm tomorrow. The base never liked him and are only voting for him because he's not Obama. And face it, that's the only real motivation the Tea Party has ever had. We've seen time and time again that it's not Obama's policies they despise, it's merely the fact that Obama supported them.

As for what the GOP will do w/Christie, I don't know. If Bachmann, Akins, & Mourdock lose MAYBE the GOP will begin to regain some semblance of sanity and look for a more moderate candidate like Christie seems to be painting himself in the past week. But it's really hard to predict the Teabaggers. They may still argue that they lost because Romney wasn't conservative enough and go even FARTHER right. I fully expect a tight primary between Jeb Bush & Christie in a few years. And I honestly can't even guess who'd win that one.


Well the way I see it Mitt was just Palin 2, which proves once they get down to the one candidate it will become a thing of R vs D and R will always vote R. Since most independents seem to want to vote R it as long as the R candidate can at least not be a Romney type that has no real stance on important issues and/or is too secretive about it then they have the advantage.

Since Christie didnt push or pull towards or away one party too much and went heels down when either side tried to make the storm about politics, he will already have a big advantage over a weak D party once Obama is out of contention.
 
2012-11-05 06:51:54 PM  

justGreg: Not sure where all of you are getting the idea that Sabato is an anti-Obama conservative, when he has always been a very liberal democrat.


I've been getting his weekly emails since 2006 (the Macacca election here in VA) and he's never been liberal.
 
2012-11-05 07:18:05 PM  

brigid_fitch: protectyourlimbs: AkaDad: Aldon: AkaDad: Sandy didn't wash Romney's chances away, since he was going to lose before that, but it did wash Christie's chances away at becoming the Republican nominee for President, since he gave Obama praise for his handling of the disaster.

Haha...you don't think the GOP will un-person Romney faster than they did Bush if he loses?

Christie has at least 4 years to kiss butt if Romney wins.

I think they un-person both, but I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice before.

Mitt already said he's not running again, if Mitt loses the GOP needs to kiss a HUGE Christie ass since he would have a clear path for the next election.

/especially showing he can work both sides and his eff you speech to people asking why he let Obama help NJ so close to elections...

The GOP may have un-personed Bush but the base never did. How many "Miss me yet?" stickers, posters, and forum posts do we STILL see? However, I do think they'll distance the hell away from Mitt at the first possible chance--like around 8pm tomorrow. The base never liked him and are only voting for him because he's not Obama. And face it, that's the only real motivation the Tea Party has ever had. We've seen time and time again that it's not Obama's policies they despise, it's merely the fact that Obama supported them.

As for what the GOP will do w/Christie, I don't know. If Bachmann, Akins, & Mourdock lose MAYBE the GOP will begin to regain some semblance of sanity and look for a more moderate candidate like Christie seems to be painting himself in the past week. But it's really hard to predict the Teabaggers. They may still argue that they lost because Romney wasn't conservative enough and go even FARTHER right. I fully expect a tight primary between Jeb Bush & Christie in a few years. And I honestly can't even guess who'd win that one.


While I don't disagree that those two are the likely contenders at this point can we please, as a country, say enough with the Bushes? Neither were particularly spectacular as president, why do we want to stick our dick in that outlet a 3rd time?
 
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