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(Shadowlocked)   Why Iron Man 3 is basically just The Dark Knight Rises. And why that's a good thing. (Yes, it may have been said before, but this one talks about thematic parallels and everything. Also, trailer mash-up video.)   (shadowlocked.com) divider line 101
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2012-11-05 02:17:58 PM

Boojum2k: Decillion: Free Radical: Wayne 985: You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.

There were no plot holes in TDKR?

Go on...

Plot hole does not mean, 'Things I wish happened differently'.

No, it means things like "guy who has no cartilage in his knee and requires a special brace to walk, and has had his back broken, can climb a wall and fall on the rope, putting immense stress on his back repeatedly, and then go right back into action like he stole a younger body." For starters.

Batman Begins was good. The Dark Knight was incredible. The Dark Knight Rises was BINO.


Um... You realize Wayne's back wasn't broken, correct? He had a displaced vertebra, which was explained in the movie. His leg also had that cybernetic attachment for his leg, which remained with him throughout the movie.

Did you watch the whole thing?
 
2012-11-05 02:24:22 PM
By the way, is it just me, or does most of Fark hate any new film? I remember The Dark Knight being called a "piece of sh--" by half the people here, and them bemoaning how terrible Ledger was and what a disappointment it was after Batman Begins. Before that, Batman Begins "sucked" and his Batmobile looked like a "stupid monster truck" and they should just let the series die, etc.

Same thing with the trailers for The Hobbit. I watched it, thought, "Boy, this looks really well done," and glanced at the Fark comments: "Boring", "Stupid", "What was that?", and the usual. It's actually why I don't post or come here all that often any more. Not because people have a difference of opinion, which I welcome, but because at least 50% of the users are basically hipsters who want you to know how lame everything is.
 
2012-11-05 02:47:26 PM

Flappyhead: Free Radical: Flappyhead: It's also correct when discussing TDK, which had just as many. It's a comic book movie, just let it slide and move on.

Oh wait, I keep forgetting this is the internet.

I guess it annoys me when people take a position when having no clue on what the position actually entails.

Lots of films have plot holes which is fine. TDKR just had some rather large ones that were unnecessary IMHO.

True, and so did TDK. As much as Bruce healing up and getting back into Gotham bugged people the Jokers insanely complicated try to kill Dent, get caught and break out of prison with the money man scheme that went off waaay to easily bugged me. But I let it slide and still enjoyed the movie.


And just for the sake of clarity, one of my biggest problems with TDKR was Bane getting Wayne out of Gotham, not Wayne getting back in.
It was highly illogical for Bane to do it not to mention the enormous stretches it takes to comprehend how he did it. Without the 'reveal' at the end Wayne would never have known what bane was trying to prove so Bane must have known that Wayne would escape, yadda yadda yadda. It was a large departure from the continuity of the film, ergo a plot hole.
 
2012-11-05 02:58:31 PM

Mulchpuppy: /stupid Fark app phone/tablet.


FIFY

/just trying to read & post to FARK from these itty-bitty devices gives me migraines
 
2012-11-05 03:10:13 PM

Free Radical: Flappyhead: Free Radical: Flappyhead: It's also correct when discussing TDK, which had just as many. It's a comic book movie, just let it slide and move on.

Oh wait, I keep forgetting this is the internet.

I guess it annoys me when people take a position when having no clue on what the position actually entails.

Lots of films have plot holes which is fine. TDKR just had some rather large ones that were unnecessary IMHO.

True, and so did TDK. As much as Bruce healing up and getting back into Gotham bugged people the Jokers insanely complicated try to kill Dent, get caught and break out of prison with the money man scheme that went off waaay to easily bugged me. But I let it slide and still enjoyed the movie.

And just for the sake of clarity, one of my biggest problems with TDKR was Bane getting Wayne out of Gotham, not Wayne getting back in.
It was highly illogical for Bane to do it not to mention the enormous stretches it takes to comprehend how he did it. Without the 'reveal' at the end Wayne would never have known what bane was trying to prove so Bane must have known that Wayne would escape, yadda yadda yadda. It was a large departure from the continuity of the film, ergo a plot hole.


I actually agree, slightly, with Bane shipping Bruce out of the country. It's not a plot hole, but it is unnecessarily lavish. But what reveal? Didn't Bane tell Bruce his plan in the prison?
 
2012-11-05 03:17:38 PM

Wayne 985: But what reveal? Didn't Bane tell Bruce his plan in the prison?


Talia Al Ghul.
 
2012-11-05 03:18:47 PM

moothemagiccow: That's pretty curious considering Iron Man 2 was a piece of shiat


Hey now, Sam Rockwell was awesome.
 
2012-11-05 03:21:28 PM

Free Radical: Wayne 985: But what reveal? Didn't Bane tell Bruce his plan in the prison?

Talia Al Ghul.


I don't think Bane, or even really Talia, cared about that though. As Bane said, "Who we are doesn't matter. What matters is our plan." Destroy Gotham, avenge Ra's Al Ghul. That's all he seemed to consider relevant.
 
2012-11-05 03:24:00 PM

Wayne 985: By the way, is it just me, or does most of Fark hate any new film? I remember The Dark Knight being called a "piece of sh--" by half the people here, and them bemoaning how terrible Ledger was and what a disappointment it was after Batman Begins. Before that, Batman Begins "sucked" and his Batmobile looked like a "stupid monster truck" and they should just let the series die, etc.

Same thing with the trailers for The Hobbit. I watched it, thought, "Boy, this looks really well done," and glanced at the Fark comments: "Boring", "Stupid", "What was that?", and the usual. It's actually why I don't post or come here all that often any more. Not because people have a difference of opinion, which I welcome, but because at least 50% of the users are basically hipsters who want you to know how lame everything is.


I was complaining about this tendency before most people had even heard of it.
 
2012-11-05 03:39:51 PM

Wayne 985: I don't think Bane, or even really Talia, cared about that though. As Bane said, "Who we are doesn't matter. What matters is our plan." Destroy Gotham, avenge Ra's Al Ghul. That's all he seemed to consider relevant.


Then why go through all the trouble of placing Wayne inside the prison. it didn't cause him any more pain, in fact, it gave him strength.
Illogical and out of character in my assessment.
 
2012-11-05 04:21:25 PM

Free Radical: Wayne 985: I don't think Bane, or even really Talia, cared about that though. As Bane said, "Who we are doesn't matter. What matters is our plan." Destroy Gotham, avenge Ra's Al Ghul. That's all he seemed to consider relevant.

Then why go through all the trouble of placing Wayne inside the prison. it didn't cause him any more pain, in fact, it gave him strength.
Illogical and out of character in my assessment.


Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

It's like Rocky III. We all knew Rocky would come back to beat Clubber Lang, but Lang didn't.
 
2012-11-05 04:37:08 PM

Wayne 985: By the way, is it just me, or does most of Fark hate any new film? I remember The Dark Knight being called a "piece of sh--" by half the people here, and them bemoaning how terrible Ledger was and what a disappointment it was after Batman Begins. Before that, Batman Begins "sucked" and his Batmobile looked like a "stupid monster truck" and they should just let the series die, etc.

Same thing with the trailers for The Hobbit. I watched it, thought, "Boy, this looks really well done," and glanced at the Fark comments: "Boring", "Stupid", "What was that?", and the usual. It's actually why I don't post or come here all that often any more. Not because people have a difference of opinion, which I welcome, but because at least 50% of the users are basically hipsters who want you to know how lame everything is.


1/2? No only a vocal minority, which I am one, thought the Dark Knight sucked donkey balls and Heath Ledgers Joker was the worst Joker ever. As for the latest chapter of DK I could not tell you if it was good or bad, because I did not pay money to go see it and won't. Dark emo angsty Batman sucks.
 
2012-11-05 04:49:11 PM

Diogenes: Mugato: Why do super heroes all have to be emo now?

I asked that same question in the last greened thread on IM3 and got flamed.

"But the alcoholism! "Demon in a Bottle"!" *fanboy spittle*....


Yeah but in The Avengers, Tony Stark seemed to like being a super hero. He looked like he was having fun. In this one he looks all sad and shiat. Maybe he should get hit the booze harder.
 
2012-11-05 04:53:07 PM

NeoCortex42: Wayne 985: I never saw Iron Man 2, but if this movie is half as good as any of the Nolan films, I'll be there. Sadly, there's no way to close the story in a grand fashion like TDKR. There are bound to be several more Avengers films, so Iron Man will have to keep on trucking.

I don't think Iron Man is a guarantee to show up in every Avengers film. I think the only necessary character is Nick Fury. The superhero roster can be changed up a bit each film.


The roster can change in theory, but as long as Iron Man is a really popular movie character, he's pretty much guaranteed to be in every film.
 
2012-11-05 05:11:57 PM

Wayne 985: Free Radical: Wayne 985: I don't think Bane, or even really Talia, cared about that though. As Bane said, "Who we are doesn't matter. What matters is our plan." Destroy Gotham, avenge Ra's Al Ghul. That's all he seemed to consider relevant.

Then why go through all the trouble of placing Wayne inside the prison. it didn't cause him any more pain, in fact, it gave him strength.
Illogical and out of character in my assessment.

Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.


If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.
 
2012-11-05 05:18:19 PM

Free Radical: Wayne 985: Free Radical: Wayne 985: I don't think Bane, or even really Talia, cared about that though. As Bane said, "Who we are doesn't matter. What matters is our plan." Destroy Gotham, avenge Ra's Al Ghul. That's all he seemed to consider relevant.

Then why go through all the trouble of placing Wayne inside the prison. it didn't cause him any more pain, in fact, it gave him strength.
Illogical and out of character in my assessment.

Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.


Yeah, but that's the drama of the scenario. Why did Rocky have to train in Russia? Why did Obi-Wan give Luke to be raised by Uncle Ben instead of doing it himself? Because it makes for a fun story.
 
2012-11-05 05:29:04 PM

Free Radical: Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.


I think Bane wanted to make Wayne go through the same torment that he went through by putting him in the same prison he had to endure. But with cable TV and an in house chiropractor.
 
2012-11-05 05:49:02 PM

Mugato: Free Radical: Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.

I think Bane wanted to make Wayne go through the same torment that he went through by putting him in the same prison he had to endure. But with cable TV and an in house chiropractor.


Basically, yeah. And that climbing scene where he finally makes it out is worth it alone.
 
2012-11-05 05:55:49 PM

Wayne 985: Mugato: Free Radical: Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.

I think Bane wanted to make Wayne go through the same torment that he went through by putting him in the same prison he had to endure. But with cable TV and an in house chiropractor.

Basically, yeah. And that climbing scene where he finally makes it out is worth it alone.


Say what you will, but that chant gets me pumped.
 
2012-11-05 06:12:51 PM

thecpt: Wayne 985: Mugato: Free Radical: Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.

I think Bane wanted to make Wayne go through the same torment that he went through by putting him in the same prison he had to endure. But with cable TV and an in house chiropractor.

Basically, yeah. And that climbing scene where he finally makes it out is worth it alone.

Say what you will, but that chant gets me pumped.


Same. I actually looked it up just to listen again:

Link
 
2012-11-05 06:18:11 PM

Cagey B: I'll see it for certain. But I'm cautiously optimistic. When they announced Mickey Rourke for Iron Man 2, I was all "awesome! and he talks to be a bird! this is going to be badass!". And then it sucked horribly. So this time I'll temper my enthusiasm for Ben Kingsley.


It wasnt great, it was definitely the weakest of these marvel movies... but "sucked horribly"? Have you seen Catwoman? Rise of the Silver Surfer? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Batman and farking Robin? Those... those sucked horribly. Iron Man 2 was an alright movie but was pretty lacking compared to the awesomeness of the first one, which i think is probably the #3 or #4 best comic book movie of all time.

What i dont get with TDKR is, Gotham is in shambles, theres a nuclear bomb being driven around the city for months, why didnt Superman just fly in, scoop up the truck with the bomb, toss it into the sun and then go snatch bane and drop him in Arkham?

/*ducks*
 
2012-11-05 06:19:48 PM

Wayne 985: thecpt: Wayne 985: Mugato: Free Radical: Well, I don't think Bane knew that. No one had ever escaped that prison but a child decades ago. You beat a man, stick him in an "unescapable" hole, and force him to watch his people murdered, and you don't expect him to find a way out to save them.

If that was the plan, Bane never needed to move Wayne from the city. Completely illogical to leave Gotham for so long a time.

I think Bane wanted to make Wayne go through the same torment that he went through by putting him in the same prison he had to endure. But with cable TV and an in house chiropractor.

Basically, yeah. And that climbing scene where he finally makes it out is worth it alone.

Say what you will, but that chant gets me pumped.

Same. I actually looked it up just to listen again:

Link


Why was there a leap involved though? Why couldn't he just climb up? And none of the prisoners had friends or family in the nearby village who would help them out?
 
2012-11-05 06:28:13 PM
I hope it's good. I didn't see the 3rd Nolan Batman after the boring and overrating 2nd one.
 
2012-11-05 06:28:17 PM

Cyno01: What i dont get with TDKR is, Gotham is in shambles, theres a nuclear bomb being driven around the city for months, why didnt Superman just fly in, scoop up the truck with the bomb, toss it into the sun and then go snatch bane and drop him in Arkham?


Why does Superman sit around in a newspaper office instead of flying around the world straitening out shiat? Cause he sucks as a character.
 
2012-11-05 06:34:52 PM

Mugato: Why was there a leap involved though? Why couldn't he just climb up? And none of the prisoners had friends or family in the nearby village who would help them out?


Meg... Who let you back inside the house?

Honestly, I only saw the movie once, back in July, but I vaguely recall the wall being "bald" or smooth from that ledge up. You had to jump to make it to the other platform and climb from there. And who knows where those people came from or who else is even aware of the prison?
 
2012-11-05 06:36:38 PM

Mugato: Cyno01: What i dont get with TDKR is, Gotham is in shambles, theres a nuclear bomb being driven around the city for months, why didnt Superman just fly in, scoop up the truck with the bomb, toss it into the sun and then go snatch bane and drop him in Arkham?

Why does Superman sit around in a newspaper office instead of flying around the world straitening out shiat? Cause he sucks as a character.


He's not you personal army.
 
2012-11-05 06:55:53 PM

Cyno01: It wasnt great, it was definitely the weakest of these marvel movies... but "sucked horribly"? Have you seen Catwoman? Rise of the Silver Surfer? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Batman and farking Robin? Those... those sucked horribly. Iron Man 2 was an alright movie but was pretty lacking compared to the awesomeness of the first one, which i think is probably the #3 or #4 best comic book movie of all time.

What i dont get with TDKR is, Gotham is in shambles, theres a nuclear bomb being driven around the city for months, why didnt Superman just fly in, scoop up the truck with the bomb, toss it into the sun and then go snatch bane and drop him in Arkham?

/*ducks*



The opening scene with him addressing Congress is worth the price of admission. And packed more awesomeness than all those movies you listed combined.

In other words I agree fully.
 
2012-11-05 07:14:02 PM

Wayne 985: By the way, is it just me, or does most of Fark hate any new film?


Your favorite movie sucks.

//aliens
//anything with bill murray
//the hobbit is the first movie in an eight hour trilogy adapted from a 300 page book.
//don't appendix me, I read the farking appendices. This is Jackson wanking himself off yet again for fun & profit.
 
2012-11-05 07:15:05 PM

Cyno01: Cagey B: I'll see it for certain. But I'm cautiously optimistic. When they announced Mickey Rourke for Iron Man 2, I was all "awesome! and he talks to be a bird! this is going to be badass!". And then it sucked horribly. So this time I'll temper my enthusiasm for Ben Kingsley.

It wasnt great, it was definitely the weakest of these marvel movies... but "sucked horribly"? Have you seen Catwoman? Rise of the Silver Surfer? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Batman and farking Robin? Those... those sucked horribly. Iron Man 2 was an alright movie but was pretty lacking compared to the awesomeness of the first one, which i think is probably the #3 or #4 best comic book movie of all time.


IM3s biggest problem was Marvel cramming in all the Avengers stuff. IMHO it was not nessesary and took away from the main story. I'd almost completely forgotten about Rourkes character until he suddenly shows up with an army of cyborgs.
 
2012-11-05 07:16:27 PM
*IM2*

Curse you early 1990's model keyboard.
 
2012-11-05 07:35:50 PM

moothemagiccow:
//the hobbit is the first movie in an eight hour trilogy adapted from a 300 page book.
//don't appendix me, I read the farking appendices. This is Jackson wanking himself off yet again for fun & profit.


Three hours will be devoted to singing songs and elf dancing. One hour, at least, of hobbit food porn. Ten minutes of giant-bowling, and 2 hours of walking. That leaves 1 hour, 50 minutes for anything else. Reread it during Sandy-induced blackout, and concluded that it's a great story, but a boring book.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The opening scene with him addressing Congress is worth the price of admission. And packed more awesomeness than all those movies you listed combined..


That Congress scene is great, but such a tease. Nowhere else does the film even come close to that awesomeness. IM2 is one of the weaker pre-Avengers films, and of the recent Marvel films in general.
 
2012-11-05 07:40:53 PM
what, Iron Man ripping off Batman?!?!?!??! Say it isn't so!!!!11!!!ELEVENTY!!111!!

Never mind that Iron man is a COMPLETE rip-off of Batman to begin with. Tell me again which one of them actually has superpowers? Oh yeah. Which one of them is a super rich playboy who uses his vast financial resources to fund his super-heroism? Oh yeah. Well, then which one of them has a normal person who serves at their assistant to keep them grounded and in touch with their humanity? Oh yeah(Alfred and Pepper Potts) Ok, fine then, which one of them has a crazy suit that is full of toys that they use to help power them then, huh??? Oh yeah...
 
2012-11-05 07:57:59 PM

Tarl3k: what, Iron Man ripping off Batman?!?!?!??! Say it isn't so!!!!11!!!ELEVENTY!!111!!

Never mind that Iron man is a COMPLETE rip-off of Batman to begin with. Tell me again which one of them actually has superpowers? Oh yeah. Which one of them is a super rich playboy who uses his vast financial resources to fund his super-heroism? Oh yeah. Well, then which one of them has a normal person who serves at their assistant to keep them grounded and in touch with their humanity? Oh yeah(Alfred and Pepper Potts) Ok, fine then, which one of them has a crazy suit that is full of toys that they use to help power them then, huh??? Oh yeah...


Now tell me which one is the goddamn Batman.
 
2012-11-05 08:05:18 PM

Duck_of_Doom: moothemagiccow:
//the hobbit is the first movie in an eight hour trilogy adapted from a 300 page book.
//don't appendix me, I read the farking appendices. This is Jackson wanking himself off yet again for fun & profit.

Three hours will be devoted to singing songs and elf dancing. One hour, at least, of hobbit food porn. Ten minutes of giant-bowling, and 2 hours of walking. That leaves 1 hour, 50 minutes for anything else. Reread it during Sandy-induced blackout, and concluded that it's a great story, but a boring book.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The opening scene with him addressing Congress is worth the price of admission. And packed more awesomeness than all those movies you listed combined..

That Congress scene is great, but such a tease. Nowhere else does the film even come close to that awesomeness. IM2 is one of the weaker pre-Avengers films, and of the recent Marvel films in general.


I actually enjoyed The Hobbit book, but was never able to make it more than half-way through The Fellowship. If Peter Jackson can take that and make it exciting, I'm looking forward to The Hobbit.
 
2012-11-05 08:08:10 PM
Batman has one think Iron Man doesn't have, a Batmobile. Iron Man needs to make one in the next movie, so he can travel from place to place easily, and escape quickly if things get out of hand.
 
2012-11-05 08:15:50 PM

Decillion: proteon: It's a movie about a comic book superhero.

Correct for 100 points. Now, for 200 points and the lead, what colour is the sky?


i'll take fanboy butthurt blue for $400 Mr. Eubanks...
 
2012-11-05 08:17:07 PM

Cyno01: Cagey B: I'll see it for certain. But I'm cautiously optimistic. When they announced Mickey Rourke for Iron Man 2, I was all "awesome! and he talks to be a bird! this is going to be badass!". And then it sucked horribly. So this time I'll temper my enthusiasm for Ben Kingsley.

It wasnt great, it was definitely the weakest of these marvel movies... but "sucked horribly"? Have you seen Catwoman? Rise of the Silver Surfer? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Batman and farking Robin? Those... those sucked horribly. Iron Man 2 was an alright movie but was pretty lacking compared to the awesomeness of the first one, which i think is probably the #3 or #4 best comic book movie of all time.

What i dont get with TDKR is, Gotham is in shambles, theres a nuclear bomb being driven around the city for months, why didnt Superman just fly in, scoop up the truck with the bomb, toss it into the sun and then go snatch bane and drop him in Arkham?

/*ducks*


I didn't see anyone else address this, but in the Nolan movies there aren't any 'supers', just quasi-magic/mystic forces like the ninjars. So Superman arguably doesn't exist.
 
2012-11-05 08:37:43 PM

kroonermanblack: Cyno01: Cagey B: I'll see it for certain. But I'm cautiously optimistic. When they announced Mickey Rourke for Iron Man 2, I was all "awesome! and he talks to be a bird! this is going to be badass!". And then it sucked horribly. So this time I'll temper my enthusiasm for Ben Kingsley.

It wasnt great, it was definitely the weakest of these marvel movies... but "sucked horribly"? Have you seen Catwoman? Rise of the Silver Surfer? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Batman and farking Robin? Those... those sucked horribly. Iron Man 2 was an alright movie but was pretty lacking compared to the awesomeness of the first one, which i think is probably the #3 or #4 best comic book movie of all time.

What i dont get with TDKR is, Gotham is in shambles, theres a nuclear bomb being driven around the city for months, why didnt Superman just fly in, scoop up the truck with the bomb, toss it into the sun and then go snatch bane and drop him in Arkham?

/*ducks*

I didn't see anyone else address this, but in the Nolan movies there aren't any 'supers', just quasi-magic/mystic forces like the ninjars. So Superman arguably doesn't exist.


media.screened.com
 
2012-11-05 09:16:50 PM

kroonermanblack: I didn't see anyone else address this, but in the Nolan movies there aren't any 'supers', just quasi-magic/mystic forces like the ninjars. So Superman arguably doesn't exist.


Nolan is co-writer and producer on Man of Steel. My guess is that Superman is still young and will connect with the new young Batman. He wasn't set in his role as Superman during events of TDKR, just getting used to dealing with his powers.
 
2012-11-05 10:11:18 PM
Just rewatched Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang yesterday. If this is half as good as that last Shane Black/RDJ match-up, it will blow your minds away.

/if they re-released KKBB and taped over 2005 with 2012, it would make millions now that RDJ is a star
 
2012-11-05 10:47:16 PM

Tarl3k: what, Iron Man ripping off Batman?!?!?!??! Say it isn't so!!!!11!!!ELEVENTY!!111!!

Never mind that Iron man is a COMPLETE rip-off of Batman to begin with. Tell me again which one of them actually has superpowers? Oh yeah. Which one of them is a super rich playboy who uses his vast financial resources to fund his super-heroism? Oh yeah. Well, then which one of them has a normal person who serves at their assistant to keep them grounded and in touch with their humanity? Oh yeah(Alfred and Pepper Potts) Ok, fine then, which one of them has a crazy suit that is full of toys that they use to help power them then, huh??? Oh yeah...


Except Tony Stark is supposed to be Howard Hughes, who actually did some of his own engineering work, on top of actually flying the damn birds.
 
2012-11-05 11:13:32 PM
and the (use) of (parentheses) should be a clue that this is crap.
 
2012-11-05 11:25:35 PM

Trocadero: Except Tony Stark is supposed to be Howard Hughes, who actually did some of his own engineering work, on top of actually flying the damn birds.


And he's a functional alcoholic, with makes him a more interesting character. And at least in the movies of the two, Tony Stark is the only one who showed any smarts. Batman is supposed to be the world's greatest detective but in the movies his greatest achievement was figuring out the Joker's chemical poisoning thing in the Tim Burton film. Other than that his detective accomplishments included solving The Riddler's nursery rhymes in Batman Forever and whatever the hell that CSI thing with the bullet was in The Dark Knight.
 
2012-11-05 11:38:54 PM
TDKR, while I enjoyed it certainly had a lot of stupid:
Bane's plan:
1. Help THE GODDAMN BATMAN fund a fusion reactor so they can eventually turn it into an atomic bomb.
2. Bankrupt THE GODDAMN BATMAN in order to bribe Daggett (not Roland, unfortunately) into having his construction crews plant bombs all over the sewers of Gotham.
3. Accidentally lure the police into the sewers, where the aforementioned bombs are placed, detonate those bombs, and trap the police forever (keep them with a steady supply of food and water, btw, until they escape, at which point they're fair game to be murdered).
4. Lock down Gotham, impose Martial Law, release the inmates of Blackgate, and give the city back to the people. If anybody interferes, the nuke goes off.
5. Show the people of Gotham that Gordon is a fraud.
6. Break The Batman. Put him in a prison known only for its hopefulness.
7. Inspire REVOLUTION in Gotham.
8. Kill The Batman.
9. Explode Gotham.
10. Die in the explosion.

Batman falling for Catwoman
1. She steals his dead mom's pearl necklace, as well as Bruce's fingerprints.
2. Admits she robs the rich to give to the poor herself.
3. Steals Bruce's sports car.
4. Gives Bruce's prints to a badguy, which bankrupts Bruce and makes him lose his parents' company.
5. The loss of the company leads to the destruction of Gotham, with the usage of gadgets that the badguys stole from the Applied Sciences division (also, they got a nuclear bomb out of the deal).
6. She hands Batman to Bane, so that Bane can kill him. Instead, Batman's just crippled and left for dead.
7. With Batman gone, Bane enacts Martial Law and destroys the entire city, so Batman can see the depth of his failure.
8. Batman gives her an escape route (with the clean-slate thing she had been striving for) from Gotham. She comes very, very close to taking it, but she returns at the absolute last possible second to save Batman from Bane, by shooting Bane. With a gun (which Batman expressly told her not to use when he first met her).
9. Batman decides to sacrifice himself to save the city of Gotham. She says, "Yeah, okay. Good luck, bro!"
10. He runs off with her and lives happily ever after.
 
2012-11-06 01:00:32 AM

cousin-merle: kroonermanblack: I didn't see anyone else address this, but in the Nolan movies there aren't any 'supers', just quasi-magic/mystic forces like the ninjars. So Superman arguably doesn't exist.

Nolan is co-writer and producer on Man of Steel. My guess is that Superman is still young and will connect with the new young Batman. He wasn't set in his role as Superman during events of TDKR, just getting used to dealing with his powers.


As I understand it, the new Batman movies will be complete reboots. They will never make a movie where Bruce Wayne is not Batman. Nolan's ending to TDKR was a nice little touch that played into what they established in Batman Begins: become a symbol, and you'll never die. It's also pretty meta, as Nolan is basically saying, "Yeah, I did ok with Batman, and now someone else gets to take a shot at it." I sincerely doubt that we'll be delving into that world any further, not matter how well it was received.
 
2012-11-06 01:25:54 AM

Alphax: moothemagiccow: That's pretty curious considering Iron Man 2 was a piece of shiat

Hey now, Sam Rockwell was awesome.


Duh.
 
2012-11-06 05:10:01 AM

jeanwearinfool: Alphax: moothemagiccow: That's pretty curious considering Iron Man 2 was a piece of shiat

Hey now, Sam Rockwell was awesome.

Duh.


Sam Rockwell is the only redeeming feature of terible movies (Charlies Angels), the cherry on the cake of good movies (Confessions of a Dangerous Mind), and can even sometime bring a movie to greatness all by himself (Moon).
 
2012-11-06 08:33:28 AM

brakiachi: Batman falling for Catwoman
1. She steals his dead mom's pearl necklace, as well as Bruce's fingerprints.
2. Admits she robs the rich to give to the poor herself.
3. Steals Bruce's sports car.
4. Gives Bruce's prints to a badguy, which bankrupts Bruce and makes him lose his parents' company.
5. The loss of the company leads to the destruction of Gotham, with the usage of gadgets that the badguys stole from the Applied Sciences division (also, they got a nuclear bomb out of the deal).
6. She hands Batman to Bane, so that Bane can kill him. Instead, Batman's just crippled and left for dead.
7. With Batman gone, Bane enacts Martial Law and destroys the entire city, so Batman can see the depth of his failure.
8. Batman gives her an escape route (with the clean-slate thing she had been striving for) from Gotham. She comes very, very close to taking it, but she returns at the absolute last possible second to save Batman from Bane, by shooting Bane. With a gun (which Batman expressly told her not to use when he first met her).
9. Batman decides to sacrifice himself to save the city of Gotham. She says, "Yeah, okay. Good luck, bro!"
10. He runs off with her and lives happily ever after.



You've never fallen for a girl who is clearly bad for you?
 
2012-11-06 09:56:41 AM

brakiachi: TDKR, while I enjoyed it certainly had a lot of stupid:
Bane's plan:
1. Help THE GODDAMN BATMAN fund a fusion reactor so they can eventually turn it into an atomic bomb.
2. Bankrupt THE GODDAMN BATMAN in order to bribe Daggett (not Roland, unfortunately) into having his construction crews plant bombs all over the sewers of Gotham.
3. Accidentally lure the police into the sewers, where the aforementioned bombs are placed, detonate those bombs, and trap the police forever (keep them with a steady supply of food and water, btw, until they escape, at which point they're fair game to be murdered).
4. Lock down Gotham, impose Martial Law, release the inmates of Blackgate, and give the city back to the people. If anybody interferes, the nuke goes off.
5. Show the people of Gotham that Gordon is a fraud.
6. Break The Batman. Put him in a prison known only for its hopefulness.
7. Inspire REVOLUTION in Gotham.
8. Kill The Batman.
9. Explode Gotham.
10. Die in the explosion.

Batman falling for Catwoman
1. She steals his dead mom's pearl necklace, as well as Bruce's fingerprints.
2. Admits she robs the rich to give to the poor herself.
3. Steals Bruce's sports car.
4. Gives Bruce's prints to a badguy, which bankrupts Bruce and makes him lose his parents' company.
5. The loss of the company leads to the destruction of Gotham, with the usage of gadgets that the badguys stole from the Applied Sciences division (also, they got a nuclear bomb out of the deal).
6. She hands Batman to Bane, so that Bane can kill him. Instead, Batman's just crippled and left for dead.
7. With Batman gone, Bane enacts Martial Law and destroys the entire city, so Batman can see the depth of his failure.
8. Batman gives her an escape route (with the clean-slate thing she had been striving for) from Gotham. She comes very, very close to taking it, but she returns at the absolute last possible second to save Batman from Bane, by shooting Bane. With a gun (which Batman expressly told her not to use when he ...


-To this I'd like to add: Gordon feels guilty about framing Batman for Dent's crimes when Batman came up with the idea, when they could have pinned the murders on the Joker or his henchmen instead (or just left the murders unsolved), on the assumption that the city will repeal a highly effective anti-crime law that has kept Gotham in peace for 8 years just because the guy it's named after snapped and killed a few criminals and crooked cops.

-Batman feels despondent that he can't be the Bat any more, because he can't imagine just assuming some other type of masked identity, like a masked cowboy or something.
 
2012-11-06 11:04:47 AM

bifford: -Batman feels despondent that he can't be the Bat any more, because he can't imagine just assuming some other type of masked identity, like a masked cowboy or something.


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WE CAN STILL TELL IT'S YOU.
 
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