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(Google)   Flashback to October 29, 1984, when a UPI story read 'Mondale Upset Win Predicted'. Also, Dear Abby is calling for the abolition of trick-or-treating. There were some good drugs in 1984 is what I'm trying to say here   (news.google.com) divider line 98
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2012-11-05 01:00:23 PM

Doc Daneeka: Well, a vote for Nader in 2000 (esp. in Florida) was really a vote for Bush.

So, in a way, you've voted for the winner three times already.


No. A vote for Nader was a vote for Nader. The third-party guilt complex is old and tired.
 
2012-11-05 01:00:55 PM
It's not news it's Fark...
 
2012-11-05 01:06:17 PM

Cyberluddite: I am old, so I actually got to vote in that election--it was my second presidential election, and I voted against Reagan in each one and was disappointed (but not really surprised) in the outcome both times. In fact, even though this year will be my ninth presidential election (Jesus, I really am old), I've only voted for the winner twice so far. My sad voting record:

1980: Voted for: Carter. Winner: Reagan
1984: Voted for: Mondale. Winner: Reagan
1988: Voted for: Dukakis (ugh). Winner: Bush Sr.
1992: Voted for: Clinton. Winner: Clinton.
1996: Voted for: Nader. Winner: Clinton.
2000: Voted for: Nader. Dubya "Winner": Dubya
2004: Voted for: Kerry (ugh). Winner: Dubya
2008: Voted for: Fartbongo. Winner: Fartbongo.

I'm pretty sure this year will be the third year that I end up for the winner.


FTFY
 
2012-11-05 01:10:04 PM
The more that I scroll that newspaper, the more fascinated I get. The crammed copy, the headlines that scream for mockery, the juxtaposition of "Summer theatre board to have new faces" with the horse's head logo...

"Couple united in evening ceremony" feels more like a major news alert. At night? How could they? At least it was still on a Saturday.

I had forgotten about the Graffiti comic, where the "artist" got syndicated pay for reprinting what we now call memes. The last one I saw in the wild was "Suburbia: where developers tear up trees and name streets after them."

Suddenly I'm reminded that Philip K. Dick came up with Fark in "The Galactic Pot-Healer" and they would have been looking at newspapers such as this one.

/too long, still reading
 
2012-11-05 01:12:06 PM

joonyer: nicoffeine: Hey, Revenge of the Nerds is playing at the Liberty III!

/we've got bush!

PAN DOWN!


But Ghost Busters is at the Roslyn and it's IN STEREO!!!
 
jvl
2012-11-05 01:13:00 PM

Cyberluddite: I'm pretty sure this year will be the third year that I end up for the winner.


This needs to be a score thread.

My score is also 2 wins (Clinton) and 4 losses (Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, McCain). I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose again on Tuesday (Mormon Flip-Flopper).

At least I never threw away a vote on a third party because "Gore's positions are identical to Bush". (Actual words frequently spoken in 2000 which look more wronger every day).
 
2012-11-05 01:13:18 PM

mbillips: 2000: Voted for: Nader. Dubya "Winner": Dubya
FTFY


Doc Daneeka: Well, a vote for Nader in 2000 (esp. in Florida) was really a vote for Bush.
So, in a way, you've voted for the winner three times already.


I live in California. Gore beat Bush by almost 1.5 million votes in my state, and everybody knew he would. WTF difference did it make whether I voted for him or not? Can you tell me how my vote had any potential whatsoever of affecting the outcome?

If I had lived in a swing state, I most likely would've voted for Gore.
 
jvl
2012-11-05 01:15:09 PM

Cyberluddite: I live in California. Gore beat Bush by almost 1.5 million votes in my state, and everybody knew he would. WTF difference did it make whether I voted for him or not? Can you tell me how my vote had any potential whatsoever of affecting the outcome?

If I had lived in a swing state, I most likely would've voted for Gore.


+1 for good sense.

Context makes all the difference.
 
2012-11-05 01:16:17 PM
Mmm... Monday's school lunch

Chili w/crackers
Corn Dog w/mustard
Celery Sticks
Pineapple

Here in Indiana at least, we'd get a peanut butter sandwich to dip in the chili. Kids in Washington don't know what they were missing.

And what school in the 80's didn't have square pizza and milk on Wednesday? Robbed....
 
2012-11-05 01:18:05 PM

jvl: Cyberluddite: I live in California. Gore beat Bush by almost 1.5 million votes in my state, and everybody knew he would. WTF difference did it make whether I voted for him or not? Can you tell me how my vote had any potential whatsoever of affecting the outcome?

If I had lived in a swing state, I most likely would've voted for Gore.

+1 for good sense.

Context makes all the difference.


I live in a swing state and am voting for Johnson, because I live off of partisan idiot tears.

That, and my two big issues are reducing our military presence in the world and ending the drug war, and Obamney is terrible on those.
 
2012-11-05 01:25:58 PM

YixilTesiphon: I live in a swing state and am voting for Johnson, because I live off of partisan idiot tears.


Either your profile info is wrong, or you have a very strange definition of the term "swing state," because I'm pretty certain that Texas isn't one.
 
2012-11-05 01:29:25 PM

Cyberluddite: YixilTesiphon: I live in a swing state and am voting for Johnson, because I live off of partisan idiot tears.

Either your profile info is wrong, or you have a very strange definition of the term "swing state," because I'm pretty certain that Texas isn't one.


Yeah, I live in PA now.
 
2012-11-05 01:33:47 PM
That was also my birthday (plus 3 years) and the stock market crash of 1929. What a good day
 
2012-11-05 02:01:17 PM
Dear Abby, You're a moron.
 
2012-11-05 02:03:52 PM
In 1984, the Grateful Dead had about one more year of (fairly) consistently good shows before things started to go south.
 
2012-11-05 02:06:09 PM

Cyberluddite: mbillips: 2000: Voted for: Nader. Dubya "Winner": Dubya
FTFY

Doc Daneeka: Well, a vote for Nader in 2000 (esp. in Florida) was really a vote for Bush.
So, in a way, you've voted for the winner three times already.

I live in California. Gore beat Bush by almost 1.5 million votes in my state, and everybody knew he would. WTF difference did it make whether I voted for him or not? Can you tell me how my vote had any potential whatsoever of affecting the outcome?

If I had lived in a swing state, I most likely would've voted for Gore.


Ok. You are forgiven.
 
2012-11-05 02:12:25 PM
Vandals caught burning outhouse doors on page 10
 
2012-11-05 02:13:56 PM
Oh no... VCR.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-05 02:29:08 PM

Arkanaut: Was that the heroin craze back then or the cocaine craze? Or both?


It was the SATANIC PANIC!!!
 
2012-11-05 02:37:14 PM
Love the haloween school lunch.
 
2012-11-05 02:41:50 PM

Allen. The end.: Arkanaut: Was that the heroin craze back then or the cocaine craze? Or both?

It was the SATANIC PANIC!!!


Dungeons and Dragons made people vote for Mondale?
 
2012-11-05 02:43:30 PM

Arkanaut: Allen. The end.: Arkanaut: Was that the heroin craze back then or the cocaine craze? Or both?

It was the SATANIC PANIC!!!

Dungeons and Dragons made people vote for Mondale?


Will the horrors inflicted on the youth of our nation by that game never end?
 
2012-11-05 02:52:36 PM

Diogenes: I was 14. But I did get to vote for Dukakis in the next one.


Same here. I was old enough to vote for Dukakis by 3 days. (The election was November 8, so what I'm saying is, happy 42nd to me.)

Also, this newspaper is from the town where I was born, so, yeah. Though I didn't live there in 1984.
 
2012-11-05 03:11:12 PM

jvl: My score is also 2 wins (Clinton) and 4 losses (Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, McCain). I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose again on Tuesday (Mormon Flip-Flopper).


I'm just curious what happened to you between 2004 and 2008 to turn you from a Democrat into a Republican? Severe head trauma?
 
jvl
2012-11-05 03:53:21 PM

RobSeace: jvl: My score is also 2 wins (Clinton) and 4 losses (Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, McCain). I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose again on Tuesday (Mormon Flip-Flopper).

I'm just curious what happened to you between 2004 and 2008 to turn you from a Democrat into a Republican? Severe head trauma?


Obama is a good man. If you are liberal, then he and Pelosi should get a lot of credit for herding the congressional sheep and getting a bunch of long-desired stuff passed. I've never seen success like that in my lifetime.

I'm not a liberal though; I'm centrist with the opinion that "unintended consequences" is the usual outcome of any government program, and I strongly admire people who work across the aisle (for example, I hate when Senators vote against Supreme Nominees for merely political reasons regardless of which side plays the game). Mr. Obama seemed to me a pretty standard liberal who never played well with the other side. I trusted Gore to continue the Clinton path. I trusted Kerry ("charge the Viet Cong!") to be thoughtful before going partisan. I now trust the flip-flopper to rediscover his Masshole ways and play well with Democrats.

Everything that has happened under Obama, I expected (except his massive success at implemented his programs). I just prefer a different and less radical way.
 
jvl
2012-11-05 03:54:08 PM
jvl:

Also, head trauma.
 
2012-11-05 04:03:16 PM
FTFA: [re:not trick-or-treating] We didn't have to worry about poisoned candy, pins or razor blades in apples, or the threat of being lured into the home of a stranger to be molested.

I went t-or-t every year one would deem "childhood" and I didn't have to worry about that either. I even went into people's houses.
 
2012-11-05 04:03:25 PM
Oh, the days when OPEC would target for oil at less than $30 per barrel.
 
2012-11-05 04:25:32 PM

jvl: Cyberluddite: I'm pretty sure this year will be the third year that I end up for the winner.

This needs to be a score thread.

My score is also 2 wins (Clinton) and 4 losses (Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, McCain). I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose again on Tuesday (Mormon Flip-Flopper).

At least I never threw away a vote on a third party because "Gore's positions are identical to Bush". (Actual words frequently spoken in 2000 which look more wronger every day).


I did! It was a "youthful indiscretion". Perot in 1992 when I was in college. He had freaking charts man!!!
 
2012-11-05 04:32:47 PM
Minnesota, 0.18%

HOLY FRAKING COW
.18%

smallest shift in the other direction and reagan would have gotten a CLEAN SWEEP!!!!
 
2012-11-05 04:48:50 PM
vinnygi.smugmug.com
 
2012-11-05 05:06:21 PM

namatad: Minnesota, 0.18%

HOLY FRAKING COW
.18%

smallest shift in the other direction and reagan would have gotten a CLEAN SWEEP!!!!


I loved the Old Man, so did a lot of other people. He made you feel better about the country in a way Jimmy Carter (or Mondale, or well...any Democrat since FDR) ever could.

Was he perfect? Hell no. He even did one or two things I didn't like. But at the end of the day, it was funny as hell watching Liberals run around with a constant case of diaper rash.
 
2012-11-05 05:08:27 PM
My mom voted for the losing candidate in every election between 1968 and 1996. Even in 2000 her candidate lost the popular vote. And she never voted for a third party candidate. I wonder if there has ever been a record of voting futility equal to that.
 
2012-11-05 05:18:51 PM

namatad: Minnesota, 0.18%

HOLY FRAKING COW
.18%

smallest shift in the other direction and reagan would have gotten a CLEAN SWEEP!!!!


And that was because Mondale was from Minnesota so he received a lot of home state votes. 
Those who think Reagan did well because he was some kind of moderate are way off. He did well with conservative American values. The far left has never had them and the far right has lost them.
 
2012-11-05 05:31:25 PM

jvl: Mr. Obama seemed to me a pretty standard liberal who never played well with the other side.


Which is interesting, because the biggest complaint I usually hear against him from the left is that he compromises too much with the Republicans, and fails to push a liberal enough agenda...

I tend to think reality lies somewhere in the middle: he's accomplished a lot that liberals should be very happy about, but at the same time has also had to compromise a lot with Republicans... (Like, for instance, by adopting their very own (now disowned) health care plan as his own, because he couldn't get the real liberal plan of single payer through...)
 
jvl
2012-11-05 05:44:01 PM

RobSeace: I tend to think reality lies somewhere in the middle


There are these things called "facts" which tend to override "feelings" :-)

People who say Obama compromised too much really mean "I wish he was dictator and could magically make everyone do what I want." In the Republican party these are the same people who would label other Republicans "rhinos" for not shoving their orthodoxy down everyone's throat.

As a Senator, Obama voted against Supreme Court nominees who didn't think like him. Whereas McCain was part of the cross-party block which tried to fix the nomination process. That's the kind of bi-partisanship I personally admire. Your mileage may vary.

Also, head trauma.
 
2012-11-05 05:48:20 PM

jvl: kind of bi-partisanship I personally admire


Whenever both parties agree, they're teaming up to screw America.
 
2012-11-05 06:07:06 PM

keypusher: My mom voted for the losing candidate in every election between 1968 and 1996. Even in 2000 her candidate lost the popular vote. And she never voted for a third party candidate. I wonder if there has ever been a record of voting futility equal to that.


How the fark did that happen? The only pattern I can come up with is "vote against the candidate from the South or west" -- which covers 68, 72, 76, 80, 84, 92, and 96 (the Bushes are the only exceptions).
 
2012-11-05 06:27:50 PM

hershy799: keypusher: My mom voted for the losing candidate in every election between 1968 and 1996. Even in 2000 her candidate lost the popular vote. And she never voted for a third party candidate. I wonder if there has ever been a record of voting futility equal to that.

How the fark did that happen? The only pattern I can come up with is "vote against the candidate from the South or west" -- which covers 68, 72, 76, 80, 84, 92, and 96 (the Bushes are the only exceptions).


Two things. First, like a lot of people, she gradually drifted rightward as she got older. That's why she was voting for McGovern in 1972 and Bush in the 00s. Second, she felt sorry for unpopular presidents and candidates. That's why she voted for Ford in 1976 -- people made fun of him for being clumsy (which was absurd, of course -- he was one of the best athletes we've ever had in the WH). Four years later, people hated Jimmy Carter's guts, so she voted for him. But Reagan was actually more popular than ever in '84, so she felt sorry for Mondale and voted for him. Etc. I'm guessing she decided to vote for Dukakis when people started ridiculing him for the tank picture.
 
2012-11-05 08:13:42 PM

Arkanaut: Was that the heroin craze back then or the cocaine craze? Or both?


Common sense craze, too bad its not prevalent today.
 
2012-11-05 08:26:30 PM

Cyberluddite: I am old, so I actually got to vote in that election--it was my second presidential election, and I voted against Reagan in each one and was disappointed (but not really surprised) in the outcome both times. In fact, even though this year will be my ninth presidential election (Jesus, I really am old), I've only voted for the winner twice so far. My sad voting record:

1980: Voted for: Carter. Winner: Reagan
1984: Voted for: Mondale. Winner: Reagan
1988: Voted for: Dukakis (ugh). Winner: Bush Sr.
1992: Voted for: Clinton. Winner: Clinton.
1996: Voted for: Nader. Winner: Clinton.
2000: Voted for: Nader. "Winner": Dubya
2004: Voted for: Kerry (ugh). Winner: Dubya
2008: Voted for: Fartbongo. Winner: Fartbongo.

I'm pretty sure this year will be the third year that I end up for the winner.


Even if you win, you still lose
 
2012-11-05 08:49:47 PM

hdhale: Was he perfect? Hell no. He even did one or two things I didn't like. But at the end of the day, it was funny as hell watching Liberals run around with a constant case of diaper rash.


I'd say that the abject failure of Trickle Down economics, which really did turn out to be voodoo, and the massive waste spent on SDI have gone a long way to validate our opinion of the man.
 
2012-11-05 09:46:58 PM

pseydtonne: A microwave cost $200 back then: I think I paid $80 for one last year. Too bad we don't have an $800 VCR ad here too.


My father bought a microwave in '85, and I have it now. It still works great! Your $80.00 microwave will likely last a couple of years. The sad thing is that $400.00+ microhoods don't last much longer.
 
2012-11-06 12:39:40 AM
has there ever been a presidential election where the Democrat did not poll like a landslide? In recent elections anyway......
 
2012-11-06 12:44:45 AM

Repo Man: pseydtonne: A microwave cost $200 back then: I think I paid $80 for one last year. Too bad we don't have an $800 VCR ad here too.

My father bought a microwave in '85, and I have it now. It still works great! Your $80.00 microwave will likely last a couple of years. The sad thing is that $400.00+ microhoods don't last much longer.


Our Jenn Air microhood is still going strong 10 years later. The range is good too, but the glass deco panel has fallen off. Quality of brand is the trick. A whirlpool designer series appliance is still crap no matter how stainless the steel is.
 
2012-11-06 12:53:20 AM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: hdhale: Was he perfect? Hell no. He even did one or two things I didn't like. But at the end of the day, it was funny as hell watching Liberals run around with a constant case of diaper rash.

I'd say that the abject failure of Trickle Down economics, which really did turn out to be voodoo, and the massive waste spent on SDI have gone a long way to validate our opinion of the man.


Its just your perspective, trickle down works great for people who work hard and risk their money. If you want cradle to grave guarantees of mediocrity then I guess not so much for you.

And SDI led to a lot of the tech which is currently making the world safe from idiots like ahmadinnerjacket. It also broke the Soviets without firing a shot.

But thats a tricky one for leftists, because they rather liked the Soviets, and mourned their passing. That led to the preachy BS about the world not being safe with the US as the only super power, and then the Doctrine of AMERICA ALWAYS BAD.

But you know, its just your perspective on it.
 
2012-11-06 08:36:12 AM

archichris: Repo Man: pseydtonne: A microwave cost $200 back then: I think I paid $80 for one last year. Too bad we don't have an $800 VCR ad here too.

My father bought a microwave in '85, and I have it now. It still works great! Your $80.00 microwave will likely last a couple of years. The sad thing is that $400.00+ microhoods don't last much longer.

Our Jenn Air microhood is still going strong 10 years later. The range is good too, but the glass deco panel has fallen off. Quality of brand is the trick. A whirlpool designer series appliance is still crap no matter how stainless the steel is.


I repair appliances. The magnetron tubes that are used now (the part that generates the microwaves) are not of the same quality as older ones were, regardless of brand. The manufacturers know this; it was standard to have a part warranty on the magnetron for five years or longer up until a few years ago. Now, with a few very high end appliances as an exception, you get a one year warranty.
 
2012-11-06 08:25:04 PM
I liked the School Lunch menus from a few pages back. "Satan's Tail" and "Witch's Brew" (to amuse kids) on Halloween for lunch at a public school. The Tea Party today would be in fits.
 
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