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2012-11-05 08:36:11 AM
Aliens: Some sort of life existing somewhere other than this insignificant rock? Mathematically almost certain. Alien visitors here on Earth? Unlikely at best. (Though who, I ask you, planted all those streetlights?)
 
2012-11-05 08:42:19 AM

Beaver1224: Aliens: Some sort of life existing somewhere other than this insignificant rock? Mathematically almost certain. Alien visitors here on Earth? Unlikely at best. (Though who, I ask you, planted all those streetlights?)


Came here to say this.

Also:

5) Karma? Let's insult a huge number of people who have faith in eastern religions, why don't we? To be even more politically incorrect, they might as well have added 11) Jesus.

(Cythraul keeps reading)

2) Religious Texts, 1) God. Hah! They did! Awesome.
 
2012-11-05 08:49:05 AM
#11) - Global Warming

/obligatory
 
2012-11-05 09:23:48 AM
I don't believe in Aliens but I believe it's statistically likely there's intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
 
2012-11-05 09:35:32 AM

slayer199: I don't believe in Aliens but I believe it's statistically likely there's intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.


So... you do believe in aliens?
 
2012-11-05 10:04:01 AM
Listverse. Every time I go to that website I spend more time there than I intended. Especially the strange ones.

And I don't know how I feel about intuition. I'm naturally skeptical about most things but I've had far too many, uh, "sudden intense feelings" about something happening for me to just dismiss it.
 
2012-11-05 10:30:58 AM

Slaxl: So... you do believe in aliens?


I guess I should clarify. I haven't seen any solid evidence of aliens visiting this planet. However, given the vastness of the universe, it's statistically likely there's intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
 
2012-11-05 10:49:02 AM
This is green... why exactly?
 
2012-11-05 10:49:54 AM
Any subscription-based website is worth more than $4.99 / month.
 
2012-11-05 10:50:28 AM
10) God
9) God
8) God
7) God
6) God
5) God
4) God
3) God
2) God
1) God

/ducks
 
2012-11-05 10:52:08 AM

alwaysjaded: Listverse. Every time I go to that website I spend more time there than I intended. Especially the strange ones.

And I don't know how I feel about intuition. I'm naturally skeptical about most things but I've had far too many, uh, "sudden intense feelings" about something happening for me to just dismiss it.


it's not necessarily mystical. it could be your mind's way of coming to a quick conclusion based on cursory phenomena without going through the trouble of wasting your time processing it in a normal, relaxed fashion. there are probably good reasons why you feel sudden uneasy feelings. though your brain doesn't take the time to explain it to you, there is a reason for the feeling.
 
2012-11-05 10:53:11 AM

alwaysjaded: Listverse. Every time I go to that website I spend more time there than I intended. Especially the strange ones.

And I don't know how I feel about intuition. I'm naturally skeptical about most things but I've had far too many, uh, "sudden intense feelings" about something happening for me to just dismiss it.


confirmation bias.
 
2012-11-05 10:53:22 AM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-11-05 10:54:28 AM
11. [Politician from political party X, who has an annual income over $250k and assets well over several million] cares about and identifies with the lower and/or middle class.
 
2012-11-05 10:56:43 AM
There's a difference between knowing, believing, and believing the possibility.

I don't KNOW aliens exist.
But I BELIEVE aliens exist (given the statistical probability).
And I BELIEVE it's possible for aliens to exist.

I don't KNOW god(s) exists.
I don't BELIEVE god(s) exist (given measurable evidence)
But I do BELIEVE it's possible for god(s) to exist (regardless of how improbable).

Very religious folks
KNOW god exists and BELIEVE god exists
 
2012-11-05 10:57:13 AM
"While psychic mediums offer a less than 100% accuracy rate..."

Apparently zero percent can truthinessfully be described as less than 100%. Good to know.
 
2012-11-05 10:59:05 AM

lordargent: But I do BELIEVE it's possible for god(s) to exist (regardless of how improbable).


That one depends on your definition of "god", I think. The classic omnipotent-omniscient-omnibenevolent leads to internal contradictions. If you change the definition to non-omni, but sufficiently powerful, then you're simply rephrasing your definition of "alien". :)
 
2012-11-05 10:59:08 AM
Meh,
God should have been #2, Democracy should have been #1.
 
2012-11-05 11:01:56 AM
The female orgasm
 
2012-11-05 11:02:35 AM
infowars.com?
 
2012-11-05 11:03:42 AM
Crypids in general should not be on the list. There are quite a few new species that were once cryptids/
 
2012-11-05 11:06:55 AM
Intuition is very real. It's just non-verbal modelling of likely events. Seriously some studies have managed to create measures that have quantified it.
 
2012-11-05 11:07:06 AM

maxx2112: Any subscription-based website is worth more than $4.99 / month.


I love my Netflix, thank you much.
 
2012-11-05 11:07:16 AM

wippit: Crypids in general should not be on the list. There are quite a few new species that were once cryptids/


Big foot and nessy not available for comment.
 
2012-11-05 11:07:46 AM

meanmutton: maxx2112: Any subscription-based website is worth more than $4.99 / month.

I love my Netflix, thank you much.


And Spotify.
 
2012-11-05 11:12:36 AM

pute kisses like a man: alwaysjaded: Listverse. Every time I go to that website I spend more time there than I intended. Especially the strange ones.

And I don't know how I feel about intuition. I'm naturally skeptical about most things but I've had far too many, uh, "sudden intense feelings" about something happening for me to just dismiss it.

it's not necessarily mystical. it could be your mind's way of coming to a quick conclusion based on cursory phenomena without going through the trouble of wasting your time processing it in a normal, relaxed fashion. there are probably good reasons why you feel sudden uneasy feelings. though your brain doesn't take the time to explain it to you, there is a reason for the feeling.


Came here to say this. Intuition is most likely provable. It's just difficult because we have only made it so far into studying the human brain. Read Blink by Gladwell and he summarizes what we know so far in this area. (although skip the last 100 pages because he jabbers alot.)
 
2012-11-05 11:13:58 AM

meanmutton: meanmutton: maxx2112: Any subscription-based website is worth more than $4.99 / month.

I love my Netflix, thank you much.

And Spotify.


Spotify is going to vanish if they don't start targeting ads accordingly and add in a working shuffle

I'm listening to country, I don't want ads for GhettoGoatRapper
 
2012-11-05 11:15:03 AM
I prefer to combine #1 and #10 so that more advanced aliens are our gods. You can't prove that it's not true
 
2012-11-05 11:15:08 AM
Wow. Most of this is trivial bs - Project Nutmeg - really? Wow, we bought some land for use as a testing ground. WHOA.

A couple of them would be interesting if they had followed them up beyond reading Fortean Times.

Number 3, that one had potential, for TWO reasons. There's two really interesting phenomena you get that way, not just plasmon stealth. And the Russians actually got the electron gun thing to work, it was just too clumsy and fragile. There are other ways to do it. Some really really...stupid.

And the last one, sorta, kinda, but not quite. Close though.
 
2012-11-05 11:15:27 AM

Richard Saunders: #11) - Global Warming


12) The Clutch Hitter
 
2012-11-05 11:17:49 AM
13) Hot farkettes
 
2012-11-05 11:19:23 AM

ModernPrimitive01: 13) Hot farkettes


13a) BIE.

/EIP
 
2012-11-05 11:19:34 AM
Karma's really not that hard to prove. If you treat it like some weird metaphysical force like the author seems more than happy to lump it in as, then yeah sure it is because you dragged metaphysics into it.

If you just think of it as being known for what you do or that what you give tends to reflect what you get back, then it isn't. I think of it more like simple economics.

/disclaimer: IANAE
//but I do listen to NPR's Planet Money
 
2012-11-05 11:23:36 AM
Interesting that Free Will isn't on that list.

I worry, sometimes, that I'm not as different from Young Earth creationists as I'd like to be. Because I admit, on some level, I believe I have some control over my thoughts and actions (whether from a mystical soul, or just some sort of really really weird feedback loop). That I am not just either a puppet dancing on a divine string, or a completely, 100% predictable (with sufficient computation) meat-machine.

To me, free will is a bit of an axiom, that I build off of. That I have *some* control, at the very least, over my own thoughts, and how I think about things. That even if there is no inherent meaning to anything, we can *give* meaning to things by the choices we make, the lives that we lead.

And if there was every scientific evidence that proved free will was a complete myth, that we really just completely and utterly set on the course we are on (whether by fate or pure determinism), I think I'd have to reject it, if only to maintain my semblance of self.

So this makes me wonder if I'm really all that different from young earth creationists, which is a thought I find more than a little distressing.
 
2012-11-05 11:26:07 AM
I believe in one of those 10 things- Intuition.

Intuition is most certainly real. It's based on subtle factors that we don't focus on directly and don't realize that we perceive. If a guy is swallows hard when you ask him if he killed his wife, you might not specifically notice it, but your subconscious certainly did. When enough of those things add up your subconscious indicates that it intuitively believes the guy to have killed his wife.

The other 9 are all batshiate crazy and people who believe those things are cognitively damaged. But intuition is certainly real- just don't read too much into it.
 
2012-11-05 11:26:53 AM
Missed these:
-Gravity
-Evolution
-Relativity
-Global Warming
-Elvis is still alive
-JFK Assasination

\they are not called theories for shaits and giggles folks
 
2012-11-05 11:27:15 AM

Richard Saunders: #11) - Global Warming

/obligatory


#12) Evolution
 
2012-11-05 11:27:20 AM

Rev.Veggie.Spam: Karma's really not that hard to prove. If you treat it like some weird metaphysical force like the author seems more than happy to lump it in as, then yeah sure it is because you dragged metaphysics into it.

If you just think of it as being known for what you do or that what you give tends to reflect what you get back, then it isn't. I think of it more like simple economics.

/disclaimer: IANAE
//but I do listen to NPR's Planet Money


Well, you could even think of Karma as not a mystical thing, but, well-the simple fact that negative actions tend to multiply. Someone cuts you off in traffic or makes you wreck your car, so you're mean and nasty and grumpy towards people for a while, hurt thousands of other people in tiny little ways because of it, make *their* days worse, and... well, it spreads. Negative actions have a multiplicative effect. By performing negative actions, we simply increase the unhappiness and.. 'negativity' (not in a mystic sense!) in the world, and it will likely swing back around to us at some point.

I think a farker explained it to me that way once.

I kinda like this view, because it gives us, as individuals, an incredible amount of power. When something horrible happens to us, we have the ability to say "No. I will not let this change how I treat others." We can *stop* a tiny part of that negative spreading, bleed a bit of momentum off that wheel, simply by refusing to let something bad happening to us change how we react and treat other people.

and that's friggen awesome, I think.
 
2012-11-05 11:27:47 AM
+50 points to the website for not being a slideshow or paginated.
 
2012-11-05 11:27:55 AM
What no Global Warming?!
 
2012-11-05 11:28:01 AM

Smeggy Smurf: The female orgasm


We gave you an X-Box so you wouldn't hear your mom having hers.
 
jvl
2012-11-05 11:31:08 AM
No love for...

GMO food is dangerous
BSE in milk is dangerous
Alternative Medicine
 
2012-11-05 11:32:48 AM
#15 That Obama is not a replicant sent by the Lizard Overlords from Outer space to enslave us and take our Skittles.
 
2012-11-05 11:36:15 AM
I would accept that intuition is the subconscious noticing details that elude the conscious mind and giving an instinct-level signal to us to avoid or pursue a certain course of action.

Missing from the list: precognition/deja vu. Being able to see the future. I used to experience the deja vu sensation quite a bit as a teenager. I could never figure out a way to actually prove that it worked or a way to benefit from it. It seemed more like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
2012-11-05 11:37:46 AM
God+religious texts should be #2 and Free Will should be #1.
 
2012-11-05 11:39:48 AM
There's proof of God! It's easy:

Step 1: Assume God.
Step 2: Therefore, God.

Duh.
 
2012-11-05 11:41:52 AM

madgonad: God+religious texts should be #2 and Free Will should be #1.


"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
 
2012-11-05 11:42:03 AM

Girion47: alwaysjaded: Listverse. Every time I go to that website I spend more time there than I intended. Especially the strange ones.

And I don't know how I feel about intuition. I'm naturally skeptical about most things but I've had far too many, uh, "sudden intense feelings" about something happening for me to just dismiss it.

confirmation bias.


I knew someone would say that.
 
2012-11-05 11:43:15 AM

ModernPrimitive01: I prefer to combine #1 and #10 so that more advanced aliens are our gods. You can't prove that it's not true

 

www.bluetonemedia.com
 
2012-11-05 11:46:05 AM
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Phillip K. Dick
 
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