pkellmey: manimal2878: pkellmey: Any photo manipulation is too much 'shopping. Force straight RAW submissions and the problem goes away.This. Or have an explicit list of what is allowed to be done to an image like exposure or cropping, but require that a RAW image is always provided for comparison.Good suggestion. I would even give a separate award for best post-production work so people recognize the difference between the art of photography and the art of post-production. They are both art, but should not be considered the same category.
Sio: As my dad is always telling me, it's not the camera that makes the photo, it's the person who takes it. He particularly likes to tell me that when I'm drooling over his Mark III...
Haliburton Cummings: The Byrne photo is just better...
if_i_really_have_to: Haliburton Cummings: The Byrne photo is just better...If you photoshop it, it's no longer a "photo", it's "digital art".This is a photography contest, not a digital art contest.
foxyshadis: Sio: As my dad is always telling me, it's not the camera that makes the photo, it's the person who takes it. He particularly likes to tell me that when I'm drooling over his Mark III...This is definitely not true for night or high-contrast shots. Even with manual control, a lousy camera will either give you total darkness, a sea of grain, or a motion blur, if it even focuses at all. (So will lousy film, so it's not exactly a new problem.) It can be overcome, but results always have that quality that makes you feel like you could have done better.
profplump: If you want to have a "waiting for good lighting conditions contest" go ahead. I'm sure there are some people who love the idea. But you don't get to redefine "photography".
farker99: I used to be a 'wet' photographer. Icky liquids and getting the timing right was a pita.Now I'm a digital photographer. I live by the following: If I could do it wet, then it is OK to do in PS. 1 Negative, 1 Print. Ansel did this, and his saying was "The negative is the score, the print is the performance". I've seen the original negative displayed with 8 different prints next to it. Each print was cropped, dodged, lightened or otherwise different from the others. No 2 were the same.What was done with this photo to modify it went beyond simple digital darkroom manipulation and into the realm of digital art. That wasn't the contest and from what I read about it the DQ was justified.
Worldwalker: (even "how long do I develop this?)
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