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2012-11-04 08:45:48 PM  
Oh God damn it, well off to find another outlet since I haven't got cable. Rawr.
 
2012-11-04 08:52:09 PM  
I'll have to watch it later this week, lame. This Governor is a lot more interesting than the comic-book Governor so far anyway. They're definitely setting him up as the Anti-Rick.
 
2012-11-04 08:53:46 PM  
I watch every week hoping for Laurie to die. Maybe one day I'll get my wish.
 
2012-11-04 09:02:59 PM  
Aw, he got them a heart for Valentine's Day!
 
2012-11-04 09:04:04 PM  
Wow, not even 2 minutes in and I'm WTFing.
 
2012-11-04 09:13:01 PM  
Hey guys,

Sorry I'm late to the party. What's this thread doing in the commented Tab?
 
2012-11-04 09:19:21 PM  
Holy crap.
 
2012-11-04 09:20:57 PM  
Noooooooooooooooo.......

That's not fair!!!
 
2012-11-04 09:21:03 PM  
noooooooooooooooo!
 
2012-11-04 09:21:09 PM  
GODDAMNIT WHAT'S A BROTHER GOT TO DO TO GET A BREAK?
 
2012-11-04 09:21:38 PM  
Why is it that no one ever looks behind them for even half a second, just to check? It's not like it was hiding around a corner or something. It just shambled up slowly.
 
2012-11-04 09:25:57 PM  
Woot! My neighbor-zombie got shot!
 
2012-11-04 09:26:32 PM  
Missed the first half an hour. Will be watching the encore.
 
2012-11-04 09:27:11 PM  
And that would be the reason I would leave right there. Merle says he's a good man, I'd be gone
 
2012-11-04 09:27:29 PM  
Short Round has the kill of the night so far.
 
2012-11-04 09:28:50 PM  
The pact?

Hey!! Where are they rest of you guys tonight??
 
2012-11-04 09:29:54 PM  
Oh, fark you, Lori, hold that shiat in.
 
2012-11-04 09:30:03 PM  
Thanks Lori. Your timing is impeccable.
 
2012-11-04 09:30:03 PM  
it's gonna be a zombie baby
 
2012-11-04 09:31:04 PM  

oi_piss_me_off: it's gonna be a zombie baby


oooooo...I hope so
 
2012-11-04 09:31:09 PM  
So, the baby.  Zombie baby or carrying the cure to the zombie disease?  Or is it going to get eaten?
 
2012-11-04 09:32:18 PM  
If what I think is going to happen with Lori is going to happen, it'll make up for T-Dog.

/what, did "Hell on Wheels" take all the black quota on AMC?
 
2012-11-04 09:33:58 PM  
Oh God, they're going to drag this birth thing out, aren't they? Spoilers...



whatculture.com

 Shoot it in the head! and the baby too
 
2012-11-04 09:38:01 PM  
did....what the fark....

Carl...look away kid. Like holy fark
 
2012-11-04 09:38:06 PM  
Oh shiat.
 
2012-11-04 09:38:50 PM  
The Walking Dead is racist!!!!
 
2012-11-04 09:38:55 PM  
T-DOGG YOU'RE A MAN
 
2012-11-04 09:39:17 PM  
What a way to go out!!
 
2012-11-04 09:39:21 PM  

Methadone Girls: did....what the fark....

Carl...look away kid. Like holy fark


Pantsless Lori is like looking at Medusa.
 
2012-11-04 09:39:31 PM  

I_C_Weener: The Walking Dead is racist!!!!


Hey, he lasted until Season 3. You knew he was living on borrowed time.
 
2012-11-04 09:39:34 PM  
Noooooo TDog!!!
 
2012-11-04 09:40:38 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Methadone Girls: did....what the fark....

Carl...look away kid. Like holy fark

Pantsless Lori is like looking at Medusa.


Carl is gonna be all kinda of farked up if he makes it to puberty.
 
2012-11-04 09:42:43 PM  
Maggie orders another woman to take her pants off and they manage to make it horribly un-hot..
 
2012-11-04 09:44:51 PM  
he's going to drug her and lock her up!
 
2012-11-04 09:46:25 PM  
I can't tell if he's trying to murder her or fark her...
 
2012-11-04 09:47:53 PM  
He's so going to fark her. Over and over again. Bastard.
 
2012-11-04 09:48:11 PM  
looks like we got a new black guy!
 
2012-11-04 09:48:32 PM  
had
 
2012-11-04 09:49:17 PM  
Carl, that's farking creepy.
 
2012-11-04 09:49:37 PM  
Dammit, now I can't root for Lori to die anymore.
 
2012-11-04 09:50:22 PM  
So to get rid of Lori we have to sacrifice T-Dogg? NOT FAIR WRITERS
 
2012-11-04 09:53:57 PM  
Does that mean I have to like her again?
 
2012-11-04 09:55:09 PM  
god damn. Do you think she's going to make it?
 
2012-11-04 09:55:35 PM  
gross...
 
2012-11-04 09:55:41 PM  
Dayum
 
2012-11-04 09:56:13 PM  
"Hey, Carl, why don't you be a sport and help me cut your mom open?"
 
2012-11-04 09:56:19 PM  
"Hello my baby, hello my honey...."
 
2012-11-04 09:56:34 PM  
yea, a crying baby isn't going to attract zombies.
 
2012-11-04 09:56:48 PM  
Anakin's going to be farked up for life.
 
2012-11-04 09:57:45 PM  
BEST

EPISODE

EVER!
 
2012-11-04 09:58:58 PM  
uh oh
 
2012-11-04 09:59:05 PM  
"Alas, poor T-Dog, I knew him, Daryl....."
 
2012-11-04 10:01:10 PM  
way to be there for your son there, Rick
 
2012-11-04 10:01:20 PM  
Carl, you're a damn hero.
 
2012-11-04 10:01:40 PM  
Wow!
 
2012-11-04 10:02:19 PM  
Well, the internet got its wish.
 
2012-11-04 10:03:13 PM  
I was not expecting that. I was thinking either Lori+ baby, Lori + miscarriage, or miscarriage + dead Lori.
 
2012-11-04 10:05:55 PM  
I was thinking zombaby.

Who put the deer meat/heart out and cut the fence? Was it the guy they found in the generator room?
 
2012-11-04 10:10:17 PM  

HakunaMatata: I was thinking zombaby.

Who put the deer meat/heart out and cut the fence? Was it the guy they found in the generator room?


sure hope so
 
2012-11-04 10:32:21 PM  

IronTom: HakunaMatata: I was thinking zombaby.

Who put the deer meat/heart out and cut the fence? Was it the guy they found in the generator room?

sure hope so


Looks like, he had the axe, motive, and know-how.
 
2012-11-04 10:35:22 PM  

HakunaMatata: I was thinking zombaby.

Who put the deer meat/heart out and cut the fence? Was it the guy they found in the generator room?


Yeah. That was the guy Rick threw out to the walkers two episodes ago.
 
2012-11-04 10:36:47 PM  
What happened to Carol?
 
2012-11-04 10:44:37 PM  

what_now: What happened to Carol?


Her headscarf got bitten, but she managed to get out the door.
 
2012-11-04 11:12:16 PM  
Anyone else see it look like Daryl gets bit in the previews?
 
2012-11-04 11:21:11 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: BEST

EPISODE

EVER!


Told the old lady this post would happen... leaving satisfied.

And don't worry about T-dog, they have a new black guy who won't get any lines.
 
2012-11-04 11:25:35 PM  
Are we sure T-Dog is dead? Sure, he got bit a couple of times. And that bloody pile of meat might have been T-Dog. But are we sure? I'm not sure.

He's not dead. He's not. He's not dead.
 
2012-11-04 11:26:02 PM  
I'm just glad someone finally got around to using a metal baseball bat this season. It's easy the best weapon in a pinch. It's light, unbreakable, easy to use and easy to find.
 
2012-11-04 11:26:36 PM  
And what is up with the heads in the jars? Flashbacks of "The Shadow Council".
 
2012-11-04 11:29:05 PM  
Nooooooooo!
 
2012-11-04 11:29:21 PM  

Mentat: HakunaMatata: I was thinking zombaby.

Who put the deer meat/heart out and cut the fence? Was it the guy they found in the generator room?

Yeah. That was the guy Rick threw out to the walkers two episodes ago.


I called him PinBall like the guy from ConAir
 
2012-11-04 11:30:25 PM  
Two great episodes in a row. The last two episodes alone were better than the total of last seasons episodes.
 
2012-11-04 11:30:27 PM  

what_now: What happened to Carol?


Great... now they will spend half a season looking for her just like they did Sophia...
 
2012-11-04 11:30:53 PM  
Glad she's dead.
 
2012-11-04 11:32:06 PM  
A very Old Yeller parting shot between Carl and Lori.
 
2012-11-04 11:32:47 PM  
For mindless zombies who drag their feet everywhere and groan non-stop while moving at 1 MPH, they sure are good at sneaking up on people who should know better.
 
2012-11-04 11:34:18 PM  

Mentat: So to get rid of Lori we have to sacrifice T-Dogg? NOT FAIR WRITERS


They've been waiting a whole two seasons to troll us with that.
 
2012-11-04 11:39:17 PM  
So happy. Lori dead, because she's Lori. T-Dog, just because I'm sick as hell of people talking about how many lines he has every goddamn week!

And Carl? He's been reborn hardcore
 
2012-11-04 11:41:30 PM  
Is it necessary to sit through all of the crappy season 2 to know what's going on in season 3? I've heard 3 is a lot better but I can't get more than 4 episodes into season 2 without wanting to throw something at the screen.
 
2012-11-04 11:43:21 PM  
Finally a greenlit thread. God damn you, Walking Dead producers?

"Oh yeah so you farkers want Lori dead? Okay, we'll deal...we'll give you Lori, but in exchange we're taking T-Dog. Pray we do not alter the deal further".
 
2012-11-04 11:44:09 PM  

Snapper Carr: Is it necessary to sit through all of the crappy season 2 to know what's going on in season 3? I've heard 3 is a lot better but I can't get more than 4 episodes into season 2 without wanting to throw something at the screen.


Not really. You've met all the characters you're really going to meet until season 3. Though I think suffering through season 2 makes you appreciate Carl's turn for the awesome a lot more.
 
2012-11-04 11:45:21 PM  

born_yesterday: And what is up with the heads in the jars? Flashbacks of "The Shadow Council".


Read the comic.
 
2012-11-04 11:46:06 PM  
Carl farkin' killed his own mom and scared the shiat out of Maggie when he turned the corner. Carl can't be farked with.

"Hey Beth, I just killed a ton of walkers and my own farking mom. Tell your old man to go to hell and join me in a guard tower, biatch."
 
2012-11-04 11:46:40 PM  

born_yesterday: Are we sure T-Dog is dead? Sure, he got bit a couple of times. And that bloody pile of meat might have been T-Dog. But are we sure? I'm not sure.

He's not dead. He's not. He's not dead.


I think he smoked the ricin cigarette, but I might be wrong.

/Sorry.
 
2012-11-04 11:51:56 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Finally a greenlit thread. God damn you, Walking Dead producers?

"Oh yeah so you farkers want Lori dead? Okay, we'll deal...we'll give you Lori, but in exchange we're taking T-Dog. Pray we do not alter the deal further".


AnaLucia and Libby agree.
 
2012-11-04 11:53:25 PM  

Snapper Carr: Is it necessary to sit through all of the crappy season 2 to know what's going on in season 3? I've heard 3 is a lot better but I can't get more than 4 episodes into season 2 without wanting to throw something at the screen.


You might want to watch the last ep of season 2
 
2012-11-04 11:53:36 PM  

Snapper Carr: Is it necessary to sit through all of the crappy season 2 to know what's going on in season 3? I've heard 3 is a lot better but I can't get more than 4 episodes into season 2 without wanting to throw something at the screen.


Not critical, but an important part of the setup. Season 2 is just fine, despite what the whiners say. It gives you the undertones on character motivation, which is important. You need to care about somebody before they have their face eaten off by a zombie, otherwise it lacks emotional impact.

The only downside of season 2 is that it's just not the pace of season 3. Season 3 will have its slower reflective moments as well, as soon as they lock down the prison and start to build a real home for themselves there. That balance between rebuilding and chaos is an important theme of the series, so it'll always be that way.
 
2012-11-04 11:53:37 PM  
Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.
 
2012-11-04 11:55:08 PM  

Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.


You don't question the Ricktatorship. T-Dog should have known better.
 
2012-11-04 11:58:01 PM  

unyon: Not critical, but an important part of the setup. Season 2 is just fine, despite what the whiners say. It gives you the undertones on character motivation, which is important.


It is, especially for the fact the confrontation with the Philly survivors and what to do with Randall, contrasted with how Rick's and Hershel's groups of survivors meet and merge over the first half of the season, sets the theme for the entire third season on its own. The second season is thematically very important to the rest of the show thus far, even if it's not the gorefest survivalist porn many people would rather it be.
 
2012-11-05 12:02:55 AM  

TheLopper: For mindless zombies who drag their feet everywhere and groan non-stop while moving at 1 MPH, they sure are good at sneaking up on people who should know better.


To be fair, he was holding back a group of foot dragging, non-stop groaning walkers.
 
2012-11-05 12:10:50 AM  
As much as I hate Lori's character, I didn't see them killing her off until she reconciled with Rick...or maybe that's what the half-smile across the prison yard was.

Still...damn, Carl is hardcore.
 
2012-11-05 12:13:39 AM  

Mentat: TheLopper: For mindless zombies who drag their feet everywhere and groan non-stop while moving at 1 MPH, they sure are good at sneaking up on people who should know better.

To be fair, he was holding back a group of foot dragging, non-stop groaning walkers.


Also to be fair, the zombies move moderately fast, more like a racewalk pace.
 
2012-11-05 12:15:02 AM  
Since the videogum guy stopped doing his writeups of this show, there's simply no reason to watch it anymore. The first two seasons were the most boring and infuratingly awful television in the history of the medium. You fooled me twice, shame on me. But there won't be a third time.
 
2012-11-05 12:18:09 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Since the videogum guy stopped doing his writeups of this show, there's simply no reason to watch it anymore. The first two seasons were the most boring and infuratingly awful television in the history of the medium. You fooled me twice, shame on me. But there won't be a third time.


Yet you felt the need to post here?
 
2012-11-05 12:25:48 AM  

aspAddict: As much as I hate Lori's character, I didn't see them killing her off until she reconciled with Rick...or maybe that's what the half-smile across the prison yard was.

Still...damn, Carl is hardcore.


Rule 1 of Walking Dead: Rick gets no resolution.
 
2012-11-05 12:26:05 AM  

Mentat: TheLopper: For mindless zombies who drag their feet everywhere and groan non-stop while moving at 1 MPH, they sure are good at sneaking up on people who should know better.

To be fair, he was holding back a group of foot dragging, non-stop groaning walkers.


I wasn't aiming my comment at T-Dawg specifically, but right before that part, when they showed Carl smiling with about 20 walkers 15 feet away from him and the rest of the group.

T-Dawg was focused on closing that damn gate.
 
2012-11-05 12:27:27 AM  
Recorded it, just about to watch. Can't wait, best show ever!!
 
2012-11-05 12:27:29 AM  
Lori wasn't going to live much longer anyway, so at least she's gone now.

T-dawg, well, he didn't exist in the comic, so hard for his character to have any dept, BUT it looks like we finally have our real Tyrese character maybe! Makes more sense than Darryl being Tyrese.

Carol will probably be found dead, and that will lead to more questions, and more death, yay!

Could be that the guy with the axe wasn't the black guy in the room? Did he really have the capability to get out to get a deer? Did he necessarily have to be working alone? Questions, questions...

Andrea could go any which way at this point, her character is nothing like the comic anymore. Still no idea how they're going to interact with the people at the prison, or even find them, since there's no connection like there was in the comic, so there is some surprise left.

I'll agree the last couple episodes have been decent, better than the last two seasons combined, as mentioned.
 
2012-11-05 12:27:34 AM  

Mentat: aspAddict: As much as I hate Lori's character, I didn't see them killing her off until she reconciled with Rick...or maybe that's what the half-smile across the prison yard was.

Still...damn, Carl is hardcore.

Rule 1 of Walking Dead: Rick gets no resolution.


Rule 2: Due to Rule 1, Rick must go more and more insane as the show goes on
 
2012-11-05 12:28:57 AM  
Did you see the governor nail that zombie in the face with that drive? NICE!

Even though Lori is a skank, it was sad to see her go. I thought that baby was DEAD.
 
2012-11-05 12:30:05 AM  

TheLopper: For mindless zombies who drag their feet everywhere and groan non-stop while moving at 1 MPH, they sure are good at sneaking up on people who should know better.


Everybody screws up at some point. If you're lucky, you screw up at times that don't cost your life or the lives of others. If you're ever unlucky people die. That time he was unlucky.
 
2012-11-05 12:39:32 AM  
Just finished watching on DVR.

Wow. Can't really come up with words.
 
2012-11-05 12:39:50 AM  
Carol's going to be pissed when she finds out about Lori. All that time spent practicing C-sections and Maggie just guts Lori like a trout.
 
2012-11-05 12:42:50 AM  
I kept waiting for the baby to go zombie and bite Maggie.

That would have been a delightful way to fark up Carl for life...even moreso.
 
2012-11-05 12:44:19 AM  

Outshined_One: I kept waiting for the baby to go zombie and bite Maggie.

That would have been a delightful way to fark up Carl for life...even moreso.


Carl would have just shot the baby.
 
2012-11-05 12:44:59 AM  
So when I started the episode, I can say with 100% accuracy that this sure wasn't on the list of things expected to happen. This season...man...
 
2012-11-05 12:48:57 AM  
damn, I really liked t-dogg. ever since he was rooting for smokes in someone's car and looked back at that bloody baby seat

I guess we gotta new token brother but still.....damn.

/never got my fantasy of maggie and lori together either

damn it. farkin' zombies.
 
2012-11-05 12:49:29 AM  

justtray: Lori wasn't going to live much longer anyway, so at least she's gone now.

T-dawg, well, he didn't exist in the comic, so hard for his character to have any dept, BUT it looks like we finally have our real Tyrese character maybe! Makes more sense than Darryl being Tyrese.

Carol will probably be found dead, and that will lead to more questions, and more death, yay!

Could be that the guy with the axe wasn't the black guy in the room? Did he really have the capability to get out to get a deer? Did he necessarily have to be working alone? Questions, questions...

Andrea could go any which way at this point, her character is nothing like the comic anymore. Still no idea how they're going to interact with the people at the prison, or even find them, since there's no connection like there was in the comic, so there is some surprise left.

I'll agree the last couple episodes have been decent, better than the last two seasons combined, as mentioned.


NOTHING is like the comic anymore !!! I'm trying to find the similarities and I'm struggling

Don't get me wrong I love the show but they are leaving out such great stuff from the novel omg
 
2012-11-05 01:01:49 AM  

Paranoia-': Anyone else see it look like Daryl gets bit in the previews?


I thought maybe it was axel, even though I like him. I'm sure someone can get a screenshot of next weeks episode.
 
2012-11-05 01:07:10 AM  
Jesus, they just start giving T-Dog some dialogue then turn him into shoulder burger.
 
2012-11-05 01:07:14 AM  
I love Merle.

Merle: How come we never hooked up?
Andrea: Because you called me a whore and a rug muncher.
Merle: I do have a way with words, don't I?
 
2012-11-05 01:15:09 AM  
Finally. Not even Meryl Farking Streep could save that character. Too bad about T-Dog. I guess Michonne is going to be ultimate African badass for the entire state of Georgia now.
 
2012-11-05 01:21:28 AM  
T-Dog iced.
 
2012-11-05 01:23:48 AM  
Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...
 
2012-11-05 01:26:48 AM  
Wow, pretty disturbing episode. I was hoping it would take a different direction than in the comics regarding Lori's fate, and they did, but I think this was actually a bit more gut-wrenching.
 
2012-11-05 01:31:35 AM  
holy shiat!!! is this really gonna happen?
 
2012-11-05 01:32:42 AM  
Lori went out like a hero. Atleast they redeemed her with her last episode. Next up: Andrea!
 
2012-11-05 01:34:09 AM  
holy shiat, holy freakin' shiat!
 
2012-11-05 01:35:21 AM  

hervatski: Lori went out like a hero. Atleast they redeemed her with her last episode. Next up: Andrea!


Actually, she kinda screwed over the group. Now they have to take care of a crying baby and find some way to feed her.
 
2012-11-05 01:37:39 AM  
Now I just wonder if we are going to get the Loriphone sometime this season.
 
2012-11-05 01:37:55 AM  

PsyLord: hervatski: Lori went out like a hero. Atleast they redeemed her with her last episode. Next up: Andrea!

Actually, she kinda screwed over the group. Now they have to take care of a crying baby and find some way to feed her.


ah damnit...
 
2012-11-05 01:38:16 AM  
T Dog nooooooooooo.

I torn with this episode. They offed Lori, but T Dog, damn. It's not fair.
 
2012-11-05 01:40:26 AM  

hervatski: PsyLord: hervatski: Lori went out like a hero. Atleast they redeemed her with her last episode. Next up: Andrea!

Actually, she kinda screwed over the group. Now they have to take care of a crying baby and find some way to feed her.

ah damnit...


Even in death she is still screwing the group. What a biatch.
 
2012-11-05 01:41:38 AM  
Gut-wrenching...
 
2012-11-05 01:42:48 AM  
I need a T-Dog "Never Forget" pic to put on a shirt, STAT.
 
2012-11-05 01:44:42 AM  
WOW, poor Carl, I guess he should have stayed in the cell, because that boy is going to be like "THat's an icky place." when the time comes.
 
2012-11-05 01:47:52 AM  
I'm watching Homeland. Maybe they need to bring Jess in as the new Lori. At least Jess got topless in season one.
 
2012-11-05 01:48:19 AM  
Up til now Sophia walking out of the barn as a walker was the most gut wrenching thing for me but what just happened tonight dialled it up a notch.
 
2012-11-05 01:56:52 AM  
I was hoping they were building up t-dogg to be a bigger character. Carl found hardcore status without ben.
 
2012-11-05 02:26:05 AM  
I'm certain that there's some zombie story out there where the fetus is a late term miscarriage and is dead in the womb. Then, of course, it turns and eats its way out of the womb, popping out Alien-style.

I wouldn't know, since I'm not partial to horror flicks and the like.

/Hate 'em
 
2012-11-05 02:26:24 AM  
Carl kills again!!!
 
2012-11-05 02:28:01 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: If what I think is going to happen with Lori is going to happen, it'll make up for T-Dog.

/what, did "Hell on Wheels" take all the black quota on AMC?


Nothing will make up for T-Dog. This show's 'one black male' quota is bogus.
 
2012-11-05 02:30:12 AM  

ArtosRC: I'm certain that there's some zombie story out there where the fetus is a late term miscarriage and is dead in the womb. Then, of course, it turns and eats its way out of the womb, popping out Alien-style.

I wouldn't know, since I'm not partial to horror flicks and the like.

/Hate 'em


Dawn of the Dead remake had a pregnant woman getting bitten, turning, and giving birth to a zombie baby.
 
2012-11-05 02:33:17 AM  
Holy shiat.
 
2012-11-05 02:35:17 AM  

justtray: Lori wasn't going to live much longer anyway, so at least she's gone now.

T-dawg, well, he didn't exist in the comic, so hard for his character to have any dept, BUT it looks like we finally have our real Tyrese character maybe! Makes more sense than Darryl being Tyrese.

Carol will probably be found dead, and that will lead to more questions, and more death, yay!

Could be that the guy with the axe wasn't the black guy in the room? Did he really have the capability to get out to get a deer? Did he necessarily have to be working alone? Questions, questions...

Andrea could go any which way at this point, her character is nothing like the comic anymore. Still no idea how they're going to interact with the people at the prison, or even find them, since there's no connection like there was in the comic, so there is some surprise left.

I'll agree the last couple episodes have been decent, better than the last two seasons combined, as mentioned.


The point is that it looks bad to get rid of a black character who's been with the group since the beginning, just to replace him with someone else. There was room for both characters. The 'one black quota' doesn't pass the smell test.

Besides, to keep truly true to the comics, Oscar/Tyreese would have to be screwing Carol and Michonne at the same time, have to kill the white boy with the suicide pact with his daughter, and then get killed by the Governor.

If women are stuffed in refrigerators, what does that make of black men?
 
2012-11-05 02:36:22 AM  
ftfm: if white women are stuffed in refrigerators...


not 'women' inclusive, since women of color have even bigger hurdles than white women when it comes to characterizations.
 
2012-11-05 02:38:07 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Did you see the governor nail that zombie in the face with that drive? NICE!

Even though Lori is a skank, it was sad to see her go. I thought that baby was DEAD.


The only way they're going to make this up to me is if T-Dogg is the father of Lori's baby. And the real reason Rick didn't speak to Lori for a year was because he killed his best friend, and his best friend tried to kill him, over a woman who was screwing everybody.
 
2012-11-05 03:08:20 AM  
That was f*cking BRUTAL.


ExperianScaresCthulhu: The point is that it looks bad to get rid of a black character who's been with the group since the beginning, just to replace him with someone else. There was room for both characters. The 'one black quota' doesn't pass the smell test.


I thought that was kinda funny (funny queer, not funny ha-ha) that they introduce a new black character and kill off the existing one.

Though I guess that goes to prove if you start advocating for taking mercy on newcomers you're going to be walker bait right quick (see Dale).
 
2012-11-05 03:09:06 AM  

Gwendolyn: I watch every week hoping for Laurie to die. Maybe one day I'll get my wish.


Are you having a party now?
 
2012-11-05 03:11:31 AM  
Boys becoming men. Men becoming wolves.
 
2012-11-05 03:11:56 AM  
Is anyone else getting fed up with this show? Last season was all arguing on the farm, this season looks like it's going to be all about arguing in the prison. It gets a bit old after awhile. Not only that, they're 3 episodes in(Before the most recent, of course), and they haven't explained shiat about what's-her'name, the chick with the sword and the Zombie followers. I understand the concept of a slow reveal, but this is just milking the viewers for more episodes with less writing so they can drag the show out.

It's like all of these shows now that have a year in between seasons, it's just a way to put on your resume that your show-'X' went for 5 years, even though it really only covered the amount of time that a show that ent 3 seasons would cover. Unfortunately, everyone seems to equate this tactic with "Quality over quantity", conveniently ignoring the fact that these shows still follow a standard timeline for pre-production, shooting and post-production. I blame Battlestar Galactica for this, SciFi farked around with this who continually, waiting this long in between seasons, breaking the 4th season in half, etc., and people kept tuning in(Myself included). It's kinda like how the gas companies kept jacking up the price of gas until people started modifying their driving habits in a noticeable way. They set this as their ceiling and backed the prices off. It's all about giving us the absolute least amount that we will put up with while putting in more and more commercials and more and more annoying crap popping up on our screen during the show until they find out how much is too much, then backing off.

I like this show, I'm just tired of trying to remember what the fark happend a year ago when the new season rolls around, and the way they've done this season has really left me wondering if I missed an episode or 3 at some point.

/I'll quit ranting now.
 
2012-11-05 03:12:22 AM  

WienerButt: Paranoia-': Anyone else see it look like Daryl gets bit in the previews?

I thought maybe it was axel, even though I like him. I'm sure someone can get a screenshot of next weeks episode.


That's what it looked like to me as well.
 
2012-11-05 03:13:35 AM  

fusillade762: WienerButt: Paranoia-': Anyone else see it look like Daryl gets bit in the previews?

I thought maybe it was axel, even though I like him. I'm sure someone can get a screenshot of next weeks episode.

That's what it looked like to me as well.


Sorry, ignore that post. I thought it looked like Woodbury's nerd guy getting bit. What's his name?
 
2012-11-05 03:35:13 AM  
Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?


Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.


Ah, you noticed that, too?
 
2012-11-05 03:37:32 AM  

fusillade762: fusillade762: WienerButt: Paranoia-': Anyone else see it look like Daryl gets bit in the previews?

I thought maybe it was axel, even though I like him. I'm sure someone can get a screenshot of next weeks episode.

That's what it looked like to me as well.

Sorry, ignore that post. I thought it looked like Woodbury's nerd guy getting bit. What's his name?


Milton. Looks like great tea is a luxury a post apocalyptic deathscape just isn't ready for.
 
2012-11-05 03:41:34 AM  
What the fark did I just watch? This episode went so far into the realm of absurdity that it can no longer be taken as anything other than a complete joke.

You can only pile it on so much, writers, before it becomes too much to take.
 
2012-11-05 03:46:36 AM  

Mikey1969: Is anyone else getting fed up with this show? Last season was all arguing on the farm, this season looks like it's going to be all about arguing in the prison. It gets a bit old after awhile. Not only that, they're 3 episodes in(Before the most recent, of course), and they haven't explained shiat about what's-her'name, the chick with the sword and the Zombie followers. I understand the concept of a slow reveal, but this is just milking the viewers for more episodes with less writing so they can drag the show out.

It's like all of these shows now that have a year in between seasons, it's just a way to put on your resume that your show-'X' went for 5 years, even though it really only covered the amount of time that a show that ent 3 seasons would cover. Unfortunately, everyone seems to equate this tactic with "Quality over quantity", conveniently ignoring the fact that these shows still follow a standard timeline for pre-production, shooting and post-production. I blame Battlestar Galactica for this, SciFi farked around with this who continually, waiting this long in between seasons, breaking the 4th season in half, etc., and people kept tuning in(Myself included). It's kinda like how the gas companies kept jacking up the price of gas until people started modifying their driving habits in a noticeable way. They set this as their ceiling and backed the prices off. It's all about giving us the absolute least amount that we will put up with while putting in more and more commercials and more and more annoying crap popping up on our screen during the show until they find out how much is too much, then backing off.

I like this show, I'm just tired of trying to remember what the fark happend a year ago when the new season rolls around, and the way they've done this season has really left me wondering if I missed an episode or 3 at some point.

/I'll quit ranting now.


You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.
 
2012-11-05 03:49:51 AM  

FutureWars: What the fark did I just watch? This episode went so far into the realm of absurdity that it can no longer be taken as anything other than a complete joke.

You can only pile it on so much, writers, before it becomes too much to take.


hahaha
 
2012-11-05 03:50:32 AM  

ZeroCorpse: If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.


Heh. I watched this crapfest the other night.

www.chud.com

Before that movie I had no idea 747s had air ducts that people could crawl around in like "Die Hard".
 
2012-11-05 03:53:10 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.


From the Onion AV review:

T-Dog does get credit for having the Dale Memorial Character Arc in the span of about twenty minutes: he goes from arguing for compassion in regards to the convicts to getting bit to getting eaten in less time than it would take Dale to yell at Shane for being a creep.
 
2012-11-05 04:00:10 AM  

ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.


Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started out well, and has turned into one of the slowest paced shows that I currently watched. My kids have more exciting news in a comprable time fram than the show at this point.

But it's obviously an ADHD thing, because I haven't articulated my issues at all, I just said 'Zombie show slow!' and moved on, amirite?
 
2012-11-05 04:10:15 AM  
t.qkme.me
 
2012-11-05 04:12:36 AM  
www.walkingdeadcomicbook.com
 
2012-11-05 05:25:17 AM  

Mikey1969: ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.

Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started out well, and has turned ...


So why are you even bothering to post (at length) here? Just move on with your life already. 

Even ZeroCorpse gave up biatching in Whedon threads.
 
2012-11-05 05:38:42 AM  
So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.
 
2012-11-05 05:46:37 AM  
Like.. wow. I can't believe they packed as much into one episode as they did. Might've been a bit TOO much.
 
2012-11-05 05:56:22 AM  

mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...


Super fingers, too. The can reach in and instantly disembowel people.
 
2012-11-05 06:36:37 AM  

balthan: mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...

Super fingers, too. The can reach in and instantly disembowel people.


Bone fragments can be sharp. Big Tiny got killed for less.


FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


She was tired.

Of all the fan hate! *insert Andrew Dice Clay "OHHH!" sound here*
 
2012-11-05 06:37:53 AM  

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


I agree.
Now if she wasn't dead, then Carl killed her. And if Carl's shot wasn't a brain blaster she could still come back and overact.
 
2012-11-05 06:38:35 AM  

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


She would bleed out w/o bandages and the pain would be horrendous. Plus, those lower abdominal muscles were cut with a 12 year old's buck knife, not a scalpel.
 
2012-11-05 06:42:07 AM  

fusillade762: Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?


Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.

Ah, you noticed that, too?


Yes I did, and I think that was fantastic. That scene showed that Merle probably does love his little brother, and that under the surface, the Gov's thugs know how far they can push him.
 
2012-11-05 06:44:50 AM  

born_yesterday: fusillade762: Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?


Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.

Ah, you noticed that, too?

Yes I did, and I think that was fantastic. That scene showed that Merle probably does love his little brother, and that under the surface, the Gov's thugs know how far they can push him.


Yeah, that 'I'll tell you what-I'll even come with you' was a serious threat. Plus the Gov hooks to the left and needs to tighten up his backswing if he plans a trip to Augusta.
 
2012-11-05 06:47:54 AM  
And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.

I thought that might be coming, because I've heard he was a bad guy in the comics, but it still surprised me. I would think a group of trained soldiers would be an asset to someone trying to "rebuild civilization", but I guess it's a power thing. Lucky he can trust every one of the shooters to not say a word...

And writing T-Dog out of the show, so that he can recover from his wounds and have his own spin-off show was brilliant. While I think Darrel could help resolve a conflict between Merle and Rick, I think T-Dog or Merle would have had to die when those two met up. Now that T-Dog is fighting zombies on his own in sunny Miami, that won't be a problem.
 
2012-11-05 06:49:39 AM  

fusillade762: Mikey1969: ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.

Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started out well, and has turned ...

So why are you even bothering to post (at length) here? Just move on with your life already. 

Even ZeroCorpse gave up biatching in Whedon threads.


Because unlike the people who seemingly Poston boards like this because they had nothing else to do, I actually watch the show, you stupid ass.
 
2012-11-05 06:52:27 AM  
I stayed awake for that?

The last show I watched that was this S-L-O-W was Caprica.
 
2012-11-05 07:00:44 AM  
I wish the show would stick to the comic more this is starting to get ridiculous

I love the show but I am sad how disassociated the writers have become from the original story.
 
2012-11-05 07:05:45 AM  

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


It looked like she was already suffering from some kind of internal bleeding. Add on the now external bleeding, supported by people who have no medical training aside from the occasional birthing of a cow, and well... there ya go.
 
2012-11-05 07:10:07 AM  
Anyone else not trust off-screen deaths on this show? They seem to have very little problem showing the characters getting killed in all kinds of violent ways, why suddenly so shy?

I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.
 
2012-11-05 07:28:39 AM  

GameSprocket: I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.


Where are they getting all the gasoline to do this senseless vehicle shuffling, also and.
 
2012-11-05 07:41:05 AM  

DownTheRabbitHole: I wish the show would stick to the comic more this is starting to get ridiculous

I love the show but I am sad how disassociated the writers have become from the original story.


They're doing that on purpose with the blessing of Robert Kirkman. They want to keep the audience guessing, including those who have read the comics. They mention this on an episode of Talking Dead.
 
2012-11-05 07:46:46 AM  
Hey, New T-Dogg. Say, you don't mind if we call you New T-Dogg, do you? That'd be swell, New T-Dogg.
 
2012-11-05 07:52:27 AM  
Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.
 
2012-11-05 07:58:03 AM  

WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.


It would be appropriate if the writers had it so that Rick went in to see what was left of Lori and she was crawling around all cut open and moaning out of a neck wound because Carl didn't have the stones to off his own mom.

Then again, they did the barn flashback, and C-dog blew by Maggie and the baby like he was hardcore, so I don't know.
 
2012-11-05 08:01:41 AM  

WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.


So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?
 
2012-11-05 08:09:26 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.

So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?


Stop it! You're making my nipples hard!
 
2012-11-05 08:20:26 AM  

Mr. Pokeylope: I need a T-Dog "Never Forget" pic to put on a shirt, STAT.


i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-05 08:26:36 AM  
Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?
 
2012-11-05 08:28:12 AM  
so how long before we get a screen cap of Carl's new steely-eyed gaze captioned "taking care of business"?
 
2012-11-05 08:37:29 AM  
T-Dog regrets not wearing shoulderpads.
 
2012-11-05 08:39:47 AM  

Gwendolyn: I watch every week hoping for Laurie to die. Maybe one day I'll get my wish.


Granted.
 
2012-11-05 08:45:24 AM  

WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?


Could be Merl. No problem there.
 
2012-11-05 08:50:08 AM  

WhiskeyBender: ExperianScaresCthulhu: WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.

So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?

Stop it! You're making my nipples hard!


can't be any worse for Rick than the taste of Shane's dick -- or Joe down the street's.
 
2012-11-05 08:55:13 AM  

WhiskeyBender: ExperianScaresCthulhu: WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.

So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?

Stop it! You're making my nipples hard!


I haven't read the comics, but even the plot summary on Wiki leads me to believe there will be MANY plotlines that go...unexplored for the television audience.

I'm glad they're veering from the comics. Now I could read them, and see an alternative storyline in the same universe.
 
2012-11-05 09:03:49 AM  

oi_piss_me_off: way to be there for your son there, Rick


To be fair, he had found out T-Dog was dead.
 
2012-11-05 09:06:25 AM  

balthan: mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...

Super fingers, too. The can reach in and instantly disembowel people.


They feel no pain, so they can stress their bones, muscles and teeth beyond typical human levels. You could clench your jaw muscles to the point that you almost break teeth, but good sense and pain thresholds keep you from doing so.
 
2012-11-05 09:09:31 AM  

WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?


Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.
 
2012-11-05 09:32:00 AM  

WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.


Not at all. He's seen enough to know what happens.

If you watch a loved one die, and you know they will come back as a walker. Do you wait for them to regen and then double tap, or do you disrupt the brain while they are first dead to keep them from coming back at all?

I respected the way T-Dog went out. I've been bitten, I will die. Do I sit back and whimper, waiting for it to happen or go out in a blaze of glory?
 
2012-11-05 09:42:33 AM  

Mikey1969:
Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started ...


Not going to repeat the massive steaming piles of derp you keep posting, but I have no compassion for you or anyone else complaning about not being able to follow the show/catch up/watch entire hours of television when AMC constantly replays long stretches of the Walking Dead. Often the entire series, often on weekends. If you don't like the show, don't watch it. It's a drama, not a gore-fest. Typically drama requires some level of character development and if the characters aren't shaping up the way you like them it's too damn bad. You don't like how a story develops then pick up your action figures and go play out your own story in your sandbox or else accept that people who write the shows and movies you watch have different ideas and opinions.

And your "entire year between seasons" comment just paints you as a fool for not understanding the TV filming process. Most tv series have some sort of break in their airing schedule, popular ones usually have it in the summer when viewership is lower. With fewer episodes than most major network shows the gap just seems longer and the midseason break (which many shows have as well) only helps to stretch out the series so much.

(wipes sweat of brow, resumes working)
 
2012-11-05 09:46:04 AM  

Teh-Yak: WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?

Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.


Right. Correct you are, I just saw it. I wonder what that leads to..maybe they will see if they can domesticate him like Michonnes pets?
 
2012-11-05 09:46:54 AM  
Carl is a certified badass now. He's taking down walkers like a pro. Too bad we don't have badass Andrea from the comic. I don't even know if they'll be much of an opportunity to re-introduce Andrea and Michonne to the prison group before the Governor starts causing trouble.
 
2012-11-05 09:47:25 AM  
There's an online Q&A with showrunner Glen Mazzara, and one thing asked was if they keep some key elements from the comic, one involving The Governor and Rick. Kirkman has stated he regrets the major character change to Rick as a result of that storyline, and I agree.

I don't see that happening in the TV show.

/cryptic enough?
 
2012-11-05 09:47:57 AM  

Teh-Yak: WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?

Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.


They were talking about using walkers with their arms and lower jaws chopped off as camouflage last week.
 
2012-11-05 09:48:34 AM  

GameSprocket: Anyone else not trust off-screen deaths on this show? They seem to have very little problem showing the characters getting killed in all kinds of violent ways, why suddenly so shy?

I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.


I"d venture a guess that censors probably didn't want a kid to shoot a "real" human. Zombies ok, real humans not ok. 
Kinda like when you see kids shows with alot of violence. Samurai Jack, Clone Wars... those have alot of violence if you think about it, but the only ones getting dismembered, beheaded, and being destroyed in brutal ways are robots or anything else that is not technically alive.

That being said, but did anyone else think Carl was ready to off that baby when it didn't start breathing right away? You could see on his face he was somewhat relieved till he realized he had to deal with Lori.
 
2012-11-05 10:02:15 AM  
Pretty good episode. Midway through the second season this show improved more than any other show I've ever seen. It's been great ever since; admittedly I almost gave up on it.
 
2012-11-05 10:13:33 AM  

born_yesterday: And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.


I can't believe she did that. Why did she do that? So dumb. Plus, she evidently DIDN'T tell Andrea this same vital information when they were deciding whether or not to leave. Did she think giving Andrea the stink-eye would somehow impart "I saw evidence that the Gov killed the military guys" telepathically?
 
2012-11-05 10:13:45 AM  

TheLopper: It's easy the best weapon in a pinch. It's light, unbreakable, easy to use and easy to find.


And it has a bigger sweet spot!
 
2012-11-05 10:23:23 AM  

FinFangFark: There's an online Q&A with showrunner Glen Mazzara, and one thing asked was if they keep some key elements from the comic, one involving The Governor and Rick. Kirkman has stated he regrets the major character change to Rick as a result of that storyline, and I agree.

I don't see that happening in the TV show.

/cryptic enough?


At least one of the elements I believe that you're referring to would seem more redundant given Merle's presence in the TV series.

/cryptic enough response?
 
2012-11-05 10:24:22 AM  
Jebus that episode was a kick in the gut. My only take is that I am sad to see Tdog go and mixed on Lori. It does seem like they ahve an instant replacement for Tdog in the one prosoner .... I just wonder if the mustach man is going to take Lori's place in Rick's heart and bed?
 
2012-11-05 10:26:56 AM  

unyon: FinFangFark: There's an online Q&A with showrunner Glen Mazzara, and one thing asked was if they keep some key elements from the comic, one involving The Governor and Rick. Kirkman has stated he regrets the major character change to Rick as a result of that storyline, and I agree.

I don't see that happening in the TV show.

/cryptic enough?

At least one of the elements I believe that you're referring to would seem more redundant given Merle's presence in the TV series.

/cryptic enough response?


Or would make more sense considering Merle's desire for revenge.

I wonder how long until Rick decides to phone a friend.
 
2012-11-05 10:27:50 AM  

Teh-Yak: WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?

Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.


Brain?
 
2012-11-05 10:32:31 AM  

Grand PBUH: GameSprocket: Anyone else not trust off-screen deaths on this show? They seem to have very little problem showing the characters getting killed in all kinds of violent ways, why suddenly so shy?

I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.

I"d venture a guess that censors probably didn't want a kid to shoot a "real" human. Zombies ok, real humans not ok. 
Kinda like when you see kids shows with alot of violence. Samurai Jack, Clone Wars... those have alot of violence if you think about it, but the only ones getting dismembered, beheaded, and being destroyed in brutal ways are robots or anything else that is not technically alive.

That being said, but did anyone else think Carl was ready to off that baby when it didn't start breathing right away? You could see on his face he was somewhat relieved till he realized he had to deal with Lori.


I don't know. They would likely have just shown his face and a splatter of blood or something. He also booked out of there like "Yep, I killed her. Lets go before a completely different walker with her uterus hanging out comes over here and eats us."
 
2012-11-05 10:35:08 AM  

someonelse: born_yesterday: And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.

I can't believe she did that. Why did she do that? So dumb. Plus, she evidently DIDN'T tell Andrea this same vital information when they were deciding whether or not to leave. Did she think giving Andrea the stink-eye would somehow impart "I saw evidence that the Gov killed the military guys" telepathically?


That killing the guardsmen scene from last week made no sense to me.

Ok he did it to show that he's a badguy for the audience at home, but why would he not want to keep these men at his town and further strengthen his community? Adding an extra few men to the walls couldn't hurt, right? Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em? And why would all his little hatchet men just agree that it was a good idea?
 
2012-11-05 10:41:15 AM  
Ok. Now I want to see Zombie Lori walking around trailing around afterbirth caboose. She can shamble around making a fist-pump motion and saying, "choo choo!"
 
2012-11-05 10:44:55 AM  

fusillade762: Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?


Did you notice the Governor stated that he lost his wife but still has a daughter but they have yet to introduce her? Yep the gov is holding his zombified daughter somewhere.
 
2012-11-05 10:47:39 AM  

Saiga410: fusillade762: Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?

Did you notice the Governor stated that he lost his wife but still has a daughter but they have yet to introduce her? Yep the gov is holding his zombified daughter somewhere.


Of course...he's batshiat crazy...the arena and daughter are forthcoming.
 
2012-11-05 10:55:14 AM  

Father_Jack: That killing the guardsmen scene from last week made no sense to me.


I imagine he felt his authority would be threatened by bringing them in. In reality, military leadership > random guy who calls himself "governor." I suppose in his mind, his authority is the most important thing to protect.
 
2012-11-05 10:56:27 AM  
So, is Maggie or Beth going to be the wet nurse?
 
2012-11-05 10:57:23 AM  

Father_Jack: Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em?


That would be the idea, yes. The Governor is a megalomaniac, power freak. To keep the people in Woodbury just afraid enough to not question his rule, as they likely would had they a sense of sustainability and stability, he needs to present the image of the outside world as a very dangerous, cutthroat, lethal place. If a platoon of trained military men can't hack it outside Woodbury, what does it say about the civilians huddled inside the fortified town square? Practicality and reason don't factor into it, it's a Hobbesian autocracy ruled by fear -- not of the Governor (yet), but of the outside world.

And, to the Governor, a group of actual military does represent a very palpable threat to him, by being a group of men trained into hierarchical, organized thinking and as a "defender" class of sorts. The Governor wasted no time offing Welles, probably because he was an officer -- not only a trained guardsman, but also someone trained to take on and handle the role of leadership within the military. Sure, there are guardsmen in Woodbury -- the Governor said as much himself -- but to this point they're presumably outnumbered and cowed for that, if not already having become fully loyal to him; the presence of other, new military would challenge that and have the potential for triggering a power struggle the Governor has no intention of allowing occur.

Sure, bringing in the guardsmen was the ethical play. We're not talking ethics.
 
2012-11-05 11:05:51 AM  

RoxtarRyan: FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.

It looked like she was already suffering from some kind of internal bleeding. Add on the now external bleeding, supported by people who have no medical training aside from the occasional birthing of a cow, and well... there ya go.


Lori had already had a caeserean section due to complications with Carl. She started bleeding heavily with her first few contractions. She said "I know what that means", since she probably had the same thing happen with Carl. I'm guessing her uterus ruptured, causing massive internal bleeding and leaving an immediate c-section as the only option to get the baby out alive.

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A uterine rupture typically occurs during early labor, but may already develop during late pregnancy.

A uterine scar from a previous cesarean section is the most common risk factor. (In one review, 52% had previous cesarean scars.)

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2012-11-05 11:06:01 AM  
For having such an online reputation as a Bad-ass, Michone has been pretty disappointing so far. The last few episodes it's been all about her sitting and brooding, looking pissed and angry.
 
2012-11-05 11:09:26 AM  

BizarreMan: For having such an online reputation as a Bad-ass, Michone has been pretty disappointing so far. The last few episodes it's been all about her sitting and brooding, looking pissed and angry.


The show is apparently skipping a ton of the prison story arc from the comic. It seems like all of the Michone character bits from the comic aren't making it into the show. So all we're stuck with is "brooding badass who trusts nobody".
 
2012-11-05 11:16:28 AM  
On IMDB, it shows Lori and Carol both in every episode for the rest of the season, so I don't think either one is gone. Carol probably escaped to safety, Lori probably ends up zombified after carl failed with his attempt at putting her down
 
2012-11-05 11:18:22 AM  

Broktun: So, is Maggie or Beth going to be the wet nurse?


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2012-11-05 11:24:35 AM  

PTP_Professor: On IMDB, it shows Lori and Carol both in every episode for the rest of the season, so I don't think either one is gone. Carol probably escaped to safety, Lori probably ends up zombified after carl failed with his attempt at putting her down


After the shenanigans in prior seasons with people nitpicking over EVERY..SINGLE...F*CKING...THING they can find to ruin things for normal viewers, I'm pretty sure the powers-that-be are screwing with you.
 
2012-11-05 11:26:40 AM  

DownTheRabbitHole: I wish the show would stick to the comic more this is starting to get ridiculous

I love the show but I am sad how disassociated the writers have become from the original story.


The original story was completely retarded by this point. F*ck it.
 
2012-11-05 11:27:48 AM  

NeoCortex42: Or would make more sense considering Merle's desire for revenge.


I think Merle just wants his stash of Breaking Bad blue meth back.

i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-11-05 11:27:56 AM  
T-Dog died, but at least they have the black prisoner to take his place. It's like in the movie Beer Fest when Landfill dies and then his twin brother shows up and assumes his nickname and place.
 
2012-11-05 11:30:17 AM  
Carol is like that one prisoner Rick tossed out. Still alive runing through the prison. T-Dogg dying sucked I like him for the sake of not being a damn drama queen, he was more the strong silent type and now he probably said more this season then all the others combined. If Carl makes it to his 20s he will probably be worse than Shane. I think my biggest problem with this season is that the prison must be the worst designed prison in the country. I never knew they would have their own maze.
 
2012-11-05 11:32:29 AM  

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


She most likely bled to death. She probably went into shock and passed out at first, then died from blood loss.

That is my guess.
 
2012-11-05 11:34:17 AM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: DownTheRabbitHole: I wish the show would stick to the comic more this is starting to get ridiculous

I love the show but I am sad how disassociated the writers have become from the original story.

The original story was completely retarded by this point. F*ck it.


I disagree. I thought the prison/Woodbury arc of the comic was the high point of it. After the end of the prison story, it started to become slightly repetitive.
 
2012-11-05 11:38:43 AM  
Yeah, I pretty much knew T-Dog was dead the second they introduced the black prisoner and gave him a personality. It's the rule of non-straight to DVD zombie movies not starring rappers. No more than one black character. If there are more than 1, it has to be a male and a female, so they can argue until they have sex.
 
2012-11-05 11:38:56 AM  

NeoCortex42: BizarreMan: For having such an online reputation as a Bad-ass, Michone has been pretty disappointing so far. The last few episodes it's been all about her sitting and brooding, looking pissed and angry.

The show is apparently skipping a ton of the prison story arc from the comic. It seems like all of the Michone character bits from the comic aren't making it into the show. So all we're stuck with is "brooding badass who trusts nobody".


People complained about helpless Carl last year incessantly, and I said 'Just Wait'.

The same holds true for Michonne. The reason that she's subdued is because she doesn't have her katana. That's likely to change soon. I'm quite confident that we'll see full-on Michonne badassery.
 
2012-11-05 11:40:25 AM  
Great show from a great series. FWIW, I think Lori is still alive. I dont trust Carl to have killed her off or maybe he "missed" etc. Ive never read the comics so Im enjoying the storyline so far. Cant wait for next week....
 
2012-11-05 11:41:13 AM  
They can't kill of Daryl, when the world ends only hardcore rednecks will survive!
I too was rooting for the Zombie baby overlord, least she's dead and gone, maybe less drama with the Queen B*%&^ being ganked.

Though I can't wait for Michone to get her friggen sword back! *slice* *lop*lop*Lop*

when do they realize that they are not only sitting on a bunch of back up generators but a god forsaken amount of diesel fuel?
 
2012-11-05 11:54:23 AM  

realityVSperception: Lori had already had a caeserean section due to complications with Carl. She started bleeding heavily with her first few contractions. She said "I know what that means", since she probably had the same thing happen with Carl.


Which makes her decision to carry the pregnancy to term even more spectacularly foolish. Even if she had survived, how were they planning to immunize the baby so it doesn't die of measles or some other diseases that everyone else was immunized against before society collapsed?
 
2012-11-05 11:58:02 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Since the videogum guy stopped doing his writeups of this show, there's simply no reason to watch it anymore. The first two seasons were the most boring and infuratingly awful television in the history of the medium. You fooled me twice, shame on me. But there won't be a third time.


Ok, we get it, you and others like you just aren't fans of the zombie genre, just shut up already.
 
2012-11-05 12:03:05 PM  

someonelse: Which makes her decision to carry the pregnancy to term even more spectacularly foolish


All of society has fallen appart but you expect planned parenthood to still be doing thier thing?
 
2012-11-05 12:04:26 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Did you see the governor nail that zombie in the face with that drive? NICE!


everyguyed.com

APPROVE.
 
2012-11-05 12:05:44 PM  

Saiga410: someonelse: Which makes her decision to carry the pregnancy to term even more spectacularly foolish

All of society has fallen appart but you expect planned parenthood to still be doing thier thing?


2 guesses on who is commenting in this thread but has never watched the show?
 
2012-11-05 12:06:38 PM  

Saiga410: someonelse: Which makes her decision to carry the pregnancy to term even more spectacularly foolish

All of society has fallen appart but you expect planned parenthood to still be doing thier thing?


She had the chance to abort when she swallowed all those plan B pills. She just changed her mind and made herself throw up.
 
2012-11-05 12:13:44 PM  

Omahawg: [www.walkingdeadcomicbook.com image 624x351]


Hey, Coffee. I'd like to introduce you to my friend here, Monitor. Monitor, this is Coffee.
 
2012-11-05 12:17:36 PM  
The best thing out of this is IronE Singleton has a nice little following, so whatever project he's going to be working on will have a built-in audience.

What sucks with last night's "Talking Dead" was the utter somberness and lack of snark. "T-Dog is dead, so I have such a sad I can't do a happy dance that Lori is also dead."
 
2012-11-05 12:19:29 PM  
havent watched the episode yet, but it sounds like they chickened out on showing how Lori really dies
 
2012-11-05 12:20:11 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: The best thing out of this is IronE Singleton has a nice little following, so whatever project he's going to be working on will have a built-in audience.

What sucks with last night's "Talking Dead" was the utter somberness and lack of snark. "T-Dog is dead, so I have such a sad I can't do a happy dance that Lori is also dead."


And no one seems to give a damn whether or not what's-her-face is still alive.

/Carol. Or something.
 
2012-11-05 12:23:09 PM  
Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.
 
2012-11-05 12:31:11 PM  

inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.


That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.
 
2012-11-05 12:35:48 PM  

Father_Jack: someonelse: born_yesterday: And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.

I can't believe she did that. Why did she do that? So dumb. Plus, she evidently DIDN'T tell Andrea this same vital information when they were deciding whether or not to leave. Did she think giving Andrea the stink-eye would somehow impart "I saw evidence that the Gov killed the military guys" telepathically?

That killing the guardsmen scene from last week made no sense to me.

Ok he did it to show that he's a badguy for the audience at home, but why would he not want to keep these men at his town and further strengthen his community? Adding an extra few men to the walls couldn't hurt, right? Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em? And why would all his little hatchet men just agree that it was a good idea?


When he beat the one guardsmen to death, there was pure hatred on his face. It wasn't just about supplies. He has also spoken several times about the guardsmen being "heroes, who would never desert their posts".

I think he was in a settlement once, National Guardsmen bolted, lost his daughter/friends/etc. and now he straight up hates them.
 
2012-11-05 12:43:34 PM  
Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?
 
2012-11-05 12:44:19 PM  

mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...


The death grip helps.
 
2012-11-05 12:46:22 PM  

PTP_Professor: On IMDB, it shows Lori and Carol both in every episode for the rest of the season, so I don't think either one is gone. Carol probably escaped to safety, Lori probably ends up zombified after carl failed with his attempt at putting her down


I think they are going to do flashbacks over the winter so we can see what happened to cause Carl and Rick to hate her so much.
 
2012-11-05 12:47:18 PM  

doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?


Not play Rick and Shane against each other. She tried to get Rick to kill Shane, then biatched when Rick killed Shane.
 
2012-11-05 12:48:42 PM  

born_yesterday: And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.

 


I had a problem with that, she's way too saavy and suspicious to have tipped her hand so clumsily.
 
2012-11-05 12:50:28 PM  

BizarreMan: For having such an online reputation as a Bad-ass, Michone has been pretty disappointing so far. The last few episodes it's been all about her sitting and brooding, looking pissed and angry.


It does seem strange. This was the character people were so excited to see. And the writers chose to take away the few things that made her interesting (sword and zombie-slaves) and stuck her in this "Wattership Down" scenario.
 
2012-11-05 12:53:13 PM  
michonne is badass in the book and it is coming, it takes a little bit. They still have the zombie arena and the month long rape to get her into character
 
2012-11-05 01:01:36 PM  

doctor wu: Jesus, they just start giving T-Dog some dialogue then turn him into shoulder burger.


As soon as he starting talking and taking the screen over, I knew he was a goner. A last acting hurrah by a guy we barely ever heard from.

The definition of Token.
 
2012-11-05 01:02:16 PM  
So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.
 
2012-11-05 01:09:55 PM  

Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.


You said 'rape' twice.
 
2012-11-05 01:19:23 PM  

kumanoki: inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.

That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.


I was thinking along those lines too. If you watch the promo for the next show, everyone is trying to talk Rick from going in somewhere...My thoughts are Carl didn't shoot her, confesses to not doing it, and Rick wants to go in after her. He does, and finds that Carol saved Lori somehow, but with hemorrhaging so much blood, I guess the idea will be she goes into a coma, and that's where Woodbury's nurse and running into Andrea and Michonne come in to play.
 
2012-11-05 01:20:36 PM  

NeoCortex42: Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.

You said 'rape' twice.


And with your mention, that makes 3 in one post(counting the quote)

Rapefecta achieved.
 
2012-11-05 01:23:20 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Father_Jack: Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em?

That would be the idea, yes. The Governor is a megalomaniac, power freak. To keep the people in Woodbury just afraid enough to not question his rule, as they likely would had they a sense of sustainability and stability, he needs to present the image of the outside world as a very dangerous, cutthroat, lethal place. If a platoon of trained military men can't hack it outside Woodbury, what does it say about the civilians huddled inside the fortified town square? Practicality and reason don't factor into it, it's a Hobbesian autocracy ruled by fear -- not of the Governor (yet), but of the outside world.

And, to the Governor, a group of actual military does represent a very palpable threat to him, by being a group of men trained into hierarchical, organized thinking and as a "defender" class of sorts. The Governor wasted no time offing Welles, probably because he was an officer -- not only a trained guardsman, but also someone trained to take on and handle the role of leadership within the military. Sure, there are guardsmen in Woodbury -- the Governor said as much himself -- but to this point they're presumably outnumbered and cowed for that, if not already having become fully loyal to him; the presence of other, new military would challenge that and have the potential for triggering a power struggle the Governor has no intention of allowing occur.

Sure, bringing in the guardsmen was the ethical play. We're not talking ethics.


While I agree that the Governor killing the guardsmen is based on his ability to maintain control (and free weapons...YAY!), it seems sort of scary that he puts that much trust in his minions that they wouldn't spill the beans, even accidentally. Taking out a couple of nearly dead helicopters pilots is one thing...but a group of healthy men at ease is another.

If there are other guardsmen floating around Woodbury, would they also not want to muck around on the equipment to look for any remnant ephemera of other soldiers. Maybe he's just made that part up about guardsmen in Woodbury...but SURELY someone other than Michonne would have to wander over by the unguarded vehicles and noticed the messy job of cleanup on the things, even if it's just kids playing around on those things.
 
2012-11-05 01:33:08 PM  

NeoCortex42: Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.

You said 'rape' twice.


He likes rape.
 
2012-11-05 01:33:18 PM  

DownTheRabbitHole: NOTHING is like the comic anymore !!! I'm trying to find the similarities and I'm struggling


In a very loose way, they're following the main thrust of the comic, which is that the story is about Rick and Carl. Everyone else is expendable. The details may vary, but I would imagine that every character, aside from those two, will be die or move on somewhere along the line.
 
2012-11-05 01:35:52 PM  
Carl is the one who took down Zombie Shane without any qualms. He showed no trauma, and basically seemed to think putting down Shen was both merciful and necessary. I don't think Carl failed to put down his mom.
 
2012-11-05 01:38:28 PM  

Strategeryz0r: NeoCortex42: Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.

You said 'rape' twice.

And with your mention, that makes 3 in one post(counting the quote)

Rapefecta achieved.


Quadrarape!
 
2012-11-05 01:39:56 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: DownTheRabbitHole: NOTHING is like the comic anymore !!! I'm trying to find the similarities and I'm struggling

In a very loose way, they're following the main thrust of the comic, which is that the story is about Rick and Carl. Everyone else is expendable. The details may vary, but I would imagine that every character, aside from those two, will be die or move on somewhere along the line.


No way, dude, those two prison guys are gonna be there till the finale--ESPECIALLY 2-Dog.*
 
2012-11-05 01:50:21 PM  

snowshovel: While I agree that the Governor killing the guardsmen is based on his ability to maintain control (and free weapons...YAY!), it seems sort of scary that he puts that much trust in his minions that they wouldn't spill the beans, even accidentally. Taking out a couple of nearly dead helicopters pilots is one thing...but a group of healthy men at ease is another.


I would imagine that his minions have proved themselves plenty of times, which is why he trusts them. Anyone that's been trusted, and found to violate the trust, has already been killed.
 
2012-11-05 01:51:36 PM  
Projecting way ahead....at this rate Season 4 is just going to be Rick and Carl all alone in the prison.
 
2012-11-05 01:53:48 PM  

FinFangFark: kumanoki: inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.

That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.

I was thinking along those lines too. If you watch the promo for the next show, everyone is trying to talk Rick from going in somewhere...My thoughts are Carl didn't shoot her, confesses to not doing it, and Rick wants to go in after her. He does, and finds that Carol saved Lori somehow, but with hemorrhaging so much blood, I guess the idea will be she goes into a coma, and that's where Woodbury's nurse and running into Andrea and Michonne come in to play.


No way she lives. Surgery in an extremely unsterile environment. No closing the incision. No anesthesia. She would require massive antibiotics and life support. They almost lost Herschell and he had a "simple" amputation.
 
2012-11-05 02:02:17 PM  

kumanoki: Projecting way ahead....at this rate Season 4 is just going to be Rick and Carl all alone in the prison.


Are you sure Carl will be in the prison? I've heard he's hard to keep track of.
 
2012-11-05 02:03:14 PM  

Doogled: kumanoki: Projecting way ahead....at this rate Season 4 is just going to be Rick and Carl all alone in the prison.

Are you sure Carl will be in the prison? I've heard he's hard to keep track of.


Carl is a badass now. By season 4 he will know magic and control the zombies.
 
2012-11-05 02:06:04 PM  

NeoCortex42: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

Not play Rick and Shane against each other. She tried to get Rick to kill Shane, then biatched when Rick killed Shane.


Is that what she biatched about, though? I get that she at first tried to defend Shane, then pretty quickly started pushing Rick to kill him. But after that happened, it seemed like her main issue with Rick was that he didn't tell her that they all carry the virus and they'll all eventually be walkers. Which seems like a pretty big thing to withhold when he was simultaneously trying to convince her to have a baby while they're on the run in a post-zombie apocalypse. Major breach of trust in a marriage, I would think. I assume that other stuff went down between them from the time they left the farm to the time they arrived at the prison, but we didn't see it.
 
2012-11-05 02:10:47 PM  

someonelse: NeoCortex42: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

Not play Rick and Shane against each other. She tried to get Rick to kill Shane, then biatched when Rick killed Shane.

Is that what she biatched about, though? I get that she at first tried to defend Shane, then pretty quickly started pushing Rick to kill him. But after that happened, it seemed like her main issue with Rick was that he didn't tell her that they all carry the virus and they'll all eventually be walkers. Which seems like a pretty big thing to withhold when he was simultaneously trying to convince her to have a baby while they're on the run in a post-zombie apocalypse. Major breach of trust in a marriage, I would think. I assume that other stuff went down between them from the time they left the farm to the time they arrived at the prison, but we didn't see it.


He didn't tell anyone until the very last minutes of season 2. She gave him the death stare after he told her that he killed Shane. She pushed Rick into confronting Shane and pushed Shane into confronting Rick. She was being manipulative and needed to go, one way or another.

It seems like she may have realized her big fark up this season seeing as she was trying to reconcile with Rick.
 
2012-11-05 02:13:49 PM  

someonelse: realityVSperception: Lori had already had a caeserean section due to complications with Carl. She started bleeding heavily with her first few contractions. She said "I know what that means", since she probably had the same thing happen with Carl.

Which makes her decision to carry the pregnancy to term even more spectacularly foolish. Even if she had survived, how were they planning to immunize the baby so it doesn't die of measles or some other diseases that everyone else was immunized against before society collapsed?


She could have had a decent chance if she had a planned c-section under controlled conditions before labor contractions started.

If they were still at the farm, and Herschal was well equipped, they might have pulled it off. And that's where they were when she decided to keep the baby.

I think they could have made Lori's death even more dramatic. First, Herschal should have blood typed and cross matched everyone's blood type by now for just such emergencies. Second, they could have spelled out just how dangerous a natural child birth would be for Lori. Then suppose only Carl is a blood match for Lori. So as a set up in last week's episode we see Carl donating blood to build up a reserve for the upcoming c-section. (with a side plot on how they hook up a small solar panel/battery cooler to preserve it) The adults all tell Carl how he's going to save his Mom and his sister's lives by giviing his blood. Then Herschal gets hurt, zombie attack, etc. and only now Carl has to kill mom after being told how he was going to save her.

The thing about the diseases you mentioned is that you have to catch them from someone else. There just aren't that many other people for them to interact with to catch them from, so it's not that big an issue. However, gangrene and infections like tetanus, where the spores are all around will reemerge as killers without modern medicine and vaccines. You will also see problems from parasites like round and tape worms originating from contaminated game, and blood parasites like west nile and malaria will also become problems.

/What happenns to mosquitos that suck on zombies?
 
2012-11-05 02:20:06 PM  
The close up of Carl's face told you he offed his mom. It's all you needed to see to know he has chosen to give up his childhood and become a badass.

Call it his Zombie Bar Mitzvah.
 
2012-11-05 02:33:39 PM  

realityVSperception: The thing about the diseases you mentioned is that you have to catch them from someone else. There just aren't that many other people for them to interact with to catch them from, so it's not that big an issue. However, gangrene and infections like tetanus, where the spores are all around will reemerge as killers without modern medicine and vaccines. You will also see problems from parasites like round and tape worms originating from contaminated game, and blood parasites like west nile and malaria will also become problems.


True. Polio is still floating around, though, isn't it? Can't you contract that from contact with water? But yeah, stuff like tetanus and parasites would be the real problem, especially given their filthy living conditions.

I had forgotten that they were on the farm when Lori decided to keep the baby. But to think that they could stay there long term (even just long enough for her to give birth) seems like an extremely risky assumption on their part. It's not like they couldn't have waited until they really found someplace secure to live longterm, then tried again, if they wanted to repopulate the planet. Lori's not that old.
 
2012-11-05 02:35:52 PM  

T.M.S.: The close up of Carl's face told you he offed his mom.


I agree. I'll be disappointed if they were being deliberately vague in order to bring her back. That would be lazy, noncommittal writing.
 
2012-11-05 02:38:38 PM  

someonelse: T.M.S.: The close up of Carl's face told you he offed his mom.

I agree. I'll be disappointed if they were being deliberately vague in order to bring her back. That would be lazy, noncommittal writing.


This.
 
2012-11-05 02:40:11 PM  

MoronLessOff: someonelse: NeoCortex42: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

Not play Rick and Shane against each other. She tried to get Rick to kill Shane, then biatched when Rick killed Shane.

Is that what she biatched about, though? I get that she at first tried to defend Shane, then pretty quickly started pushing Rick to kill him. But after that happened, it seemed like her main issue with Rick was that he didn't tell her that they all carry the virus and they'll all eventually be walkers. Which seems like a pretty big thing to withhold when he was simultaneously trying to convince her to have a baby while they're on the run in a post-zombie apocalypse. Major breach of trust in a marriage, I would think. I assume that other stuff went down between them from the time they left the farm to the time they arrived at the prison, but we didn't see it.

He didn't tell anyone until the very last minutes of season 2. She gave him the death stare after he told her that he killed Shane. She pushed Rick into confronting Shane and pushed Shane into confronting Rick. She was being manipulative and needed to go, one way or another.

It seems like she may have realized her big fark up this season seeing as she was trying to reconcile with Rick.


I watched the pilot again yesterday, and Rick and Lori were already having serious marital problems even before the walkers. She told Rick (in front of Carl) that she didn't think he really even cared shot them anymore. So, I think they had a lot of problems already, which is why Lori so quickly jumped into Shane's bed (and that being said, when Shane kissed Lori in the tent in the pilot, it looked much less like she was in love with him and more like she was making a survivalist decision to shack up with the alpha male).
 
2012-11-05 02:45:53 PM  

realityVSperception: someonelse: realityVSperception: Lori had already had a caeserean section due to complications with Carl. She started bleeding heavily with her first few contractions. She said "I know what that means", since she probably had the same thing happen with Carl.

Which makes her decision to carry the pregnancy to term even more spectacularly foolish. Even if she had survived, how were they planning to immunize the baby so it doesn't die of measles or some other diseases that everyone else was immunized against before society collapsed?

She could have had a decent chance if she had a planned c-section under controlled conditions before labor contractions started.

If they were still at the farm, and Herschal was well equipped, they might have pulled it off. And that's where they were when she decided to keep the baby.

I think they could have made Lori's death even more dramatic. First, Herschal should have blood typed and cross matched everyone's blood type by now for just such emergencies. Second, they could have spelled out just how dangerous a natural child birth would be for Lori. Then suppose only Carl is a blood match for Lori. So as a set up in last week's episode we see Carl donating blood to build up a reserve for the upcoming c-section. (with a side plot on how they hook up a small solar panel/battery cooler to preserve it) The adults all tell Carl how he's going to save his Mom and his sister's lives by giviing his blood. Then Herschal gets hurt, zombie attack, etc. and only now Carl has to kill mom after being told how he was going to save her.

The thing about the diseases you mentioned is that you have to catch them from someone else. There just aren't that many other people for them to interact with to catch them from, so it's not that big an issue. However, gangrene and infections like tetanus, where the spores are all around will reemerge as killers without modern medicine and vaccines. You will also see problems from parasites like round and tape wor ...


They starve, unable to drink congealed blood.
 
2012-11-05 03:09:52 PM  

unyon: People complained about helpless Carl last year incessantly, and I said 'Just Wait'.

The same holds true for Michonne. The reason that she's subdued is because she doesn't have her katana. That's likely to change soon. I'm quite confident that we'll see full-on Michonne badassery.


Considering up until this point in the comics, the lion's share of Michonne's character development was giving blowjobs and getting raped nonstop, it's not entirely fair to call out AMC for not yet doing much with her.

And, a word about her katana, she gets it back next episode. There was a bit in the Talking Dead preview.
 
2012-11-05 03:10:20 PM  
minor quibble:

the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.
 
2012-11-05 03:13:26 PM  

inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.


Damn. Most interesting post here. Not sure if it'll pan out or not, based on what I read in the comics, but nevertheless enlightening. Thanks!
 
2012-11-05 03:18:17 PM  

Celerian: Strategeryz0r: NeoCortex42: Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.

You said 'rape' twice.

And with your mention, that makes 3 in one post(counting the quote)

Rapefecta achieved.

Quadrarape!


I am just thinking how AMC is going to "show" the continuous rape of Michonne. I know they have leeway being on cable but a month-long rape? That would be the rest of this half season and part of the spring season. Christ we complained about Sophia in the forest what are we going to be like with Michonne getting raped for the rest of the season
 
2012-11-05 03:20:24 PM  

someonelse: realityVSperception: The thing about the diseases you mentioned is that you have to catch them from someone else. There just aren't that many other people for them to interact with to catch them from, so it's not that big an issue. However, gangrene and infections like tetanus, where the spores are all around will reemerge as killers without modern medicine and vaccines. You will also see problems from parasites like round and tape worms originating from contaminated game, and blood parasites like west nile and malaria will also become problems.

True. Polio is still floating around, though, isn't it? Can't you contract that from contact with water? But yeah, stuff like tetanus and parasites would be the real problem, especially given their filthy living conditions.

I had forgotten that they were on the farm when Lori decided to keep the baby. But to think that they could stay there long term (even just long enough for her to give birth) seems like an extremely risky assumption on their part. It's not like they couldn't have waited until they really found someplace secure to live longterm, then tried again, if they wanted to repopulate the planet. Lori's not that old.


Except that there's a good chance it is Shane's baby. From a pure genetic point of view, Lori would want to have children with multiple men, so that her genes have a better chance of being passed on. You're right, she could have waited, but once Rick was back, she would have had to have his children, not Shane's, and she already has Carl with Rick.

You've got pre zombie social values in direct conflict with a 100,000 years of human tribal evolution.


One in five American mothers have children with different dads

One in five mothers in America have children with different fathers, a new study shows.
Researchers found that the trend was higher in minority groups and mothers with low income and education backgrounds.
The data was taken over a 27-year period from nearly 4,000 U.S. women who had been interviewed more than 20 times.
The study's author Cassandra Dorius said of the one in five figure: 'To put it in perspective, this is similar to the number of American adults with a college degree. It's pervasive.'


Link
 
2012-11-05 03:24:20 PM  

calbert: minor quibble:

the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.


the human body is designed to still burn for sex (and sometimes even MORE so) during times of stress. it is totally believable that Glenn is still going to bang Maggie every damn chance he gets.

Hell, in the comics, it was pretty much spelled out that Andrea and Amy were BOTH banging ol Dale. At this point in the comics Rick is banging Andrea every chance he gets. So yeah... it's ok. Sex gonna happen.
 
2012-11-05 03:27:21 PM  

calbert: i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.


An interesting point, but I disagree with you. Part of the dichotomy is finding ways to retain humanness and civilization, in a world that is relentlessly dehumanizing (see: Rick). While it wouldn't surprise me that it has an impact on their sex life, Maggie's insecurities about being pregnant aren't nearly as sex killing as the fact that she is now the defacto mother to young Julia (presuming she's named the same in the TV show). We also know that they picked up condoms while at the farm.

It felt valid to me, and was important in demonstrating where Glenn and Maggie's relationship is going. These sorts of new relationship dynamics after the tragic deaths of loved ones are a fairly constant point of drama in the comic book, and it looks like the TV show is carrying that theme on nicely.
 
2012-11-05 03:27:54 PM  
You'd think if Andrea returns to the group unscathed, the group would start doing the old Costanza maneuver with her, in that come the next precarious, morally ambiguous situation, Rick or somebody else will ask Andrea what she thinks they should do, and they then do the exact opposite of what she says.
 
2012-11-05 03:28:25 PM  

calbert: minor quibble:

the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.


get laid much?
 
2012-11-05 03:30:43 PM  

eagles95: Celerian: Strategeryz0r: NeoCortex42: Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.

You said 'rape' twice.

And with your mention, that makes 3 in one post(counting the quote)

Rapefecta achieved.

Quadrarape!

I am just thinking how AMC is going to "show" the continuous rape of Michonne. I know they have leeway being on cable but a month-long rape? That would be the rest of this half season and part of the spring season. Christ we complained about Sophia in the forest what are we going to be like with Michonne getting raped for the rest of the season


it isn't going to happen that way in the show, betcha. the entire dynamic is different on how michonne came to be at woodbury in the show. no reason for things to go farking nutso like that. but i suppose we will see what happens. I figure Merle (who i think they will redeem), Andrea and Michonne will end up teaming up to get the hell out of Woodbury. Merle may even turn out to be as mostly decent as Daryl has turned out to be.... if they don't just kill him.
 
2012-11-05 03:33:46 PM  

calbert: minor quibble:

the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.


It might take 50 years for things to settle. By then all the Maggies of the world will be old and barren. Nope, gotta keep doing it even while living in zombie penitentiary, or else the human race goes extinct.
 
2012-11-05 03:36:03 PM  

calbert: minor quibble:

the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.


Maybe they're restricting themselves to anal and oral. This isn't a porno; there's no penetration close up.
 
2012-11-05 03:39:33 PM  

frepnog: I figure Merle (who i think they will redeem), Andrea and Michonne will end up teaming up to get the hell out of Woodbury. Merle may even turn out to be as mostly decent as Daryl has turned out to be.... if they don't just kill him.


Awesome theory. I'd like to see this.
 
2012-11-05 03:40:59 PM  

frepnog:
it isn't going to happen that way in the show, betcha. the entire dynamic is different on how michonne came to be at woodbury in the show. no reason for things to go farking nutso like that. but i suppose we will see what happens. I figure Merle (who i think they will redeem), Andrea and Michonne will end up teaming up to get the hell out of Woodbury. Merle may even turn out to be as mostly decent as Daryl has turned out to be.... if they don't just kill him.


I am going to have to respectfully disagree. I see a lot of potential for the Governor to 'snap' and do what he did to Michonne in the comic. To be honest, he has motive now- she is nosy and has his number, he's going to f*ck some respect into her. I imagine a lot of shadowed shots, suggestive down the hall sounds, over-the-shoulder camera angles and lots...lots of close-ups of Michonne scowling. But I don't think they're going to shy away from it. Plus it gives her a reason to go vigilante ruthless, which is what the fans are drooling for anyway.
 
2012-11-05 03:42:21 PM  

doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?


How about not farking around until you have eithe a. Birth control or b. a safe place to deliver.

Had this been a pre history tribe they would have exiled her ass for endangering the group.
 
2012-11-05 03:43:09 PM  

eagles95: Celerian: Strategeryz0r: NeoCortex42: Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.

You said 'rape' twice.

And with your mention, that makes 3 in one post(counting the quote)

Rapefecta achieved.

Quadrarape!

I am just thinking how AMC is going to "show" the continuous rape of Michonne. I know they have leeway being on cable but a month-long rape? That would be the rest of this half season and part of the spring season. Christ we complained about Sophia in the forest what are we going to be like with Michonne getting raped for the rest of the season


Since this is fark, I'll just go ahead and answer this:

*fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap*
 
2012-11-05 03:46:39 PM  

Magruda: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

How about not farking around until you have eithe a. Birth control or b. a safe place to deliver.

Had this been a pre history tribe they would have exiled her ass for endangering the group.


Yes, it's always the woman's fault for not keeping her legs closed rather than the man's fault for not keeping his dick in his pants. Sexist, much?
 
2012-11-05 03:47:39 PM  

MoronLessOff: frepnog: I figure Merle (who i think they will redeem), Andrea and Michonne will end up teaming up to get the hell out of Woodbury. Merle may even turn out to be as mostly decent as Daryl has turned out to be.... if they don't just kill him.

Awesome theory. I'd like to see this.


I have the feeling we're going to see Andrea and Michonne have a fundamental disagreement, and Andrea isn't going to realize it until Michonne is missing and the Gov doesn't own up to or lies about where she went. Merle returns the favor of telling him where Daryl may be by hinting that the Gov has Michonne in bondage. She employs help to break her out, but Merle has to decide if he wants to stay or go.
 
2012-11-05 03:52:00 PM  

kumanoki: MoronLessOff: frepnog: I figure Merle (who i think they will redeem), Andrea and Michonne will end up teaming up to get the hell out of Woodbury. Merle may even turn out to be as mostly decent as Daryl has turned out to be.... if they don't just kill him.

Awesome theory. I'd like to see this.

I have the feeling we're going to see Andrea and Michonne have a fundamental disagreement, and Andrea isn't going to realize it until Michonne is missing and the Gov doesn't own up to or lies about where she went. Merle returns the favor of telling him where Daryl may be by hinting that the Gov has Michonne in bondage. She employs help to break her out, but Merle has to decide if he wants to stay or go.


The Governor clearly depends on the absolute loyalty of his soldiers to keep power. I think his refusal to allow Merle to search for his brother is going to play a large role in determining Merle's actions; alternatively, Merle is likely to have to choose one versus the other.

/GODDAMNIT, DON'T JUST SCOWL AT HER, TELL HER THE GOVERNOR KILLED THE GUARDSMEN!!!
 
2012-11-05 03:59:48 PM  

calbert: the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.


I would hope they are. I understand the Strangelovian urge to repopulate the planet and all, but damn. It's only been a matter of months since this all started. No woman in her right mind would actually be going out of her way to get pregnant yet.

I do think the scene with Glen and Maggie in the tower was meant to be a little comic interlude before the unimaginable horror that followed. But ... were they supposed to be watching the grounds while they were up there, or did they go up there just to be alone?
 
2012-11-05 04:02:33 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Magruda: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

How about not farking around until you have eithe a. Birth control or b. a safe place to deliver.

Had this been a pre history tribe they would have exiled her ass for endangering the group.

Yes, it's always the woman's fault for not keeping her legs closed rather than the man's fault for not keeping his dick in his pants. Sexist, much?


Note the caveat "pre history". Please tell me I don't have to give you a history leason on male/female sociology.

/hint, it doesn't work out in the woman's favor.
 
2012-11-05 04:02:47 PM  

born_yesterday: /GODDAMNIT, DON'T JUST SCOWL AT HER, TELL HER THE GOVERNOR KILLED THE GUARDSMEN!!!


Maybe the show is going the "don't communicate any information that could actually be helpful" route. AKA "every episode of Lost."
 
2012-11-05 04:02:47 PM  

kumanoki: MoronLessOff: frepnog: I figure Merle (who i think they will redeem), Andrea and Michonne will end up teaming up to get the hell out of Woodbury. Merle may even turn out to be as mostly decent as Daryl has turned out to be.... if they don't just kill him.

Awesome theory. I'd like to see this.

I have the feeling we're going to see Andrea and Michonne have a fundamental disagreement, and Andrea isn't going to realize it until Michonne is missing and the Gov doesn't own up to or lies about where she went. Merle returns the favor of telling him where Daryl may be by hinting that the Gov has Michonne in bondage. She employs help to break her out, but Merle has to decide if he wants to stay or go.


the problem with this is this - at this point in the comics, we knew michonne. we cared about her, and what the gov wa doing to her HURT. we don't care about michonne at this point in the show. she is quiet, pissed, and "just wants to go to the coast". so who gives a crap if she disappears? i don't think that is anything like what will likely happen. i figure things will get dangerous for her and andrea and with Merle being forced somehow to stay the 3 will become unlikely friends trying to escape together. I mean who the fark knows but we will see, right? can't wait.
 
2012-11-05 04:10:21 PM  

someonelse: born_yesterday: /GODDAMNIT, DON'T JUST SCOWL AT HER, TELL HER THE GOVERNOR KILLED THE GUARDSMEN!!!

Maybe the show is going the "don't communicate any information that could actually be helpful" route. AKA "every episode of Lost."


I figured it was just so blatantly obvious you would have to be kind of stupid not to figure it out and Michonne is thinking the same thing.

/I'm looking at you Andrea
 
2012-11-05 04:13:00 PM  

Magruda: Mike Chewbacca: Magruda: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

How about not farking around until you have eithe a. Birth control or b. a safe place to deliver.

Had this been a pre history tribe they would have exiled her ass for endangering the group.

Yes, it's always the woman's fault for not keeping her legs closed rather than the man's fault for not keeping his dick in his pants. Sexist, much?

Note the caveat "pre history". Please tell me I don't have to give you a history leason on male/female sociology.

/hint, it doesn't work out in the woman's favor.


Sorry pal, you said Lori should have abstained unless she had access to birth control or a safe place to deliver. The subject of your statement was Lori, not Shane. It's not Shane's fault he farked his not-so-dead best friend's wife is basically what you implied. Meanwhile, Lori thinks Rick is dead (based on Shane's statements) and understandably attaches herself to the new group leader. So yeah, misogynist much?
 
2012-11-05 04:14:56 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Magruda: doctor wu: Don't get why so many hate on Lori. It's a zombie apocolypse!! As far as she knew her man was dead, so she got with the guy she thought could protect her and her son. What the hell else should she have done?

How about not farking around until you have eithe a. Birth control or b. a safe place to deliver.

Had this been a pre history tribe they would have exiled her ass for endangering the group.

Yes, it's always the woman's fault for not keeping her legs closed rather than the man's fault for not keeping his dick in his pants. Sexist, much?


Well what's-his-face is already dead. He's a douche, too, but he's been out of the picture for a while.
 
2012-11-05 04:15:45 PM  

frepnog:
the problem with this is this - at this point in the comics, we knew michonne. we cared about her, and what the gov wa doing to her HURT. we don't care about michonne at this point in the show. she is quiet, pissed, and "just wants to go to the coast". so who gives a crap if she disappears? i don't think that is anything like what will likely happen. i figure things will get dangerous for her and andrea and with Merle being forced somehow to stay the 3 will become unlikely friends trying to escape together. I mean who the fark knows but we will see, right? can't wait.


I agree that readers were invested in her at that point, no doubt. I mean, show Michonne isn't even talking to herself (yet). but I disagree that show-watchers aren't invested. At the very least she's a new character that is slightly interesting because she can handler herself. At the most, it's people like you and me who are steeped in comic backstory. I think the average viewer falls somewhere in-between. If Michonne gets...uh, detained....then that's plot development that people want. it's character interaction, and frankly it'll be awesome to see her respond.
 
2012-11-05 04:23:24 PM  

born_yesterday: The Governor clearly depends on the absolute loyalty of his soldiers to keep power. I think his refusal to allow Merle to search for his brother is going to play a large role in determining Merle's actions; alternatively, Merle is likely to have to choose one versus the other.

/GODDAMNIT, DON'T JUST SCOWL AT HER, TELL HER THE GOVERNOR KILLED THE GUARDSMEN!!!


And hell, did you see the Gov's face twitching towards the end of that conversation?

Mike Chewbacca: Sorry pal, you said Lori should have abstained unless she had access to birth control or a safe place to deliver. The subject of your statement was Lori, not Shane. It's not Shane's fault he farked his not-so-dead best friend's wife is basically what you implied. Meanwhile, Lori thinks Rick is dead (based on Shane's statements) and understandably attaches herself to the new group leader. So yeah, misogynist much?


That or she could have just used the butt.
 
2012-11-05 04:25:48 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: It's not Shane's fault he farked his not-so-dead best friend's wife is basically what you implied. Meanwhile, Lori thinks Rick is dead (based on Shane's statements) and understandably attaches herself to the new group leader. So yeah, misogynist much?


Who cares if it's Shane's fault or not? Does he have to carry the child to term? Are there any laws society has put in place to make him culpable? Could he just walk away and not have to worrry about it?

You are talking like she could sue him for childsupport. During the apocalypse if you have a vagina you carry a knife and stab anything that tries to penetrate you. Because it is your life that is on the line, not his.

Misogynist..please, pick up a paleontology book and stfu. History doesn't care about your PC terms.
 
2012-11-05 04:51:20 PM  

someonelse: calbert: the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

I would hope they are. I understand the Strangelovian urge to repopulate the planet and all, but damn. It's only been a matter of months since this all started. No woman in her right mind would actually be going out of her way to get pregnant yet.

I do think the scene with Glen and Maggie in the tower was meant to be a little comic interlude before the unimaginable horror that followed. But ... were they supposed to be watching the grounds while they were up there, or did they go up there just to be alone?


They went up there to be alone. Daryl? said somthing about how they were there the day before too.

People would be boning like crazy in that world. Being a survivor would boost sexual desire tremendously. Everybody wants to fark after they do somthing badass. And killing zombies is badass.

Plus, nothing makes people want sex more than seeing death. It's the reason funerals are one of the best places to get laid.
 
2012-11-05 05:48:08 PM  

T.M.S.: someonelse: calbert: the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

I would hope they are. I understand the Strangelovian urge to repopulate the planet and all, but damn. It's only been a matter of months since this all started. No woman in her right mind would actually be going out of her way to get pregnant yet.

I do think the scene with Glen and Maggie in the tower was meant to be a little comic interlude before the unimaginable horror that followed. But ... were they supposed to be watching the grounds while they were up there, or did they go up there just to be alone?

They went up there to be alone. Daryl? said somthing about how they were there the day before too.

People would be boning like crazy in that world. Being a survivor would boost sexual desire tremendously. Everybody wants to fark after they do somthing badass. And killing zombies is badass.

Plus, nothing makes people want sex more than seeing death. It's the reason funerals are one of the best places to get laid.


Not to mention, what else are they going to do? No tv, radio, movies, internet, books, video games, etc. No drinking or drugs. No nightlife. After a long day of slagging zombies they aren't going to sit around the campfire singing kumbaya. At night it's either listen to the crickets or screw.
 
2012-11-05 06:02:10 PM  

realityVSperception: T.M.S.: someonelse: calbert: the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

I would hope they are. I understand the Strangelovian urge to repopulate the planet and all, but damn. It's only been a matter of months since this all started. No woman in her right mind would actually be going out of her way to get pregnant yet.

I do think the scene with Glen and Maggie in the tower was meant to be a little comic interlude before the unimaginable horror that followed. But ... were they supposed to be watching the grounds while they were up there, or did they go up there just to be alone?

They went up there to be alone. Daryl? said somthing about how they were there the day before too.

People would be boning like crazy in that world. Being a survivor would boost sexual desire tremendously. Everybody wants to fark after they do somthing badass. And killing zombies is badass.

Plus, nothing makes people want sex more than seeing death. It's the reason funerals are one of the best places to get laid.

Not to mention, what else are they going to do? No tv, radio, movies, internet, books, video games, etc. No drinking or drugs. No nightlife. After a long day of slagging zombies they aren't going to sit around the campfire singing kumbaya. At night it's either listen to the crickets or screw.


I get all of these arguments, I really do. And it makes for good TV, theoretically. Maybe my libido is freakishly low, because I can't imagine being all that turned on in a world that must reek to the heavens with decomposition stench. Not to mention the stink of the survivors themselves. And the general lack of sanitation screams "contagious disease" to me, which is kind of a big turnoff. Also, I kind of think that the idea of people being in sexual overdrive in the aftermath of an apocalyptic event is one that's more real in the minds of nerdy TV writers than it would be in reality.
 
2012-11-05 06:17:30 PM  

someonelse: Also, I kind of think that the idea of people being in sexual overdrive in the aftermath of an apocalyptic event is one that's more real in the minds of nerdy TV writers than it would be in reality.


If you want to get technical about it all of the nuclear power plants in the world of which Georgia has 3 would meltdown Chernoble/Fukashima style leaving much of the world an uninhabitable wasteland.

/freaky mutant sexors is hawt
 
2012-11-05 06:23:58 PM  

someonelse: Father_Jack: That killing the guardsmen scene from last week made no sense to me.

I imagine he felt his authority would be threatened by bringing them in. In reality, military leadership > random guy who calls himself "governor." I suppose in his mind, his authority is the most important thing to protect.


Given the zeal with which he bashed the fark out of that army guy's head I get the impression he just really hates army guys.
 
2012-11-05 06:27:37 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Ok he did it to show that he's a badguy for the audience at home, but why would he not want to keep these men at his town and further strengthen his community? Adding an extra few men to the walls couldn't hurt, right? Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em? And why would all his little hatchet men just agree that it was a good idea?

When he beat the one guardsmen to death, there was pure hatred on his face. It wasn't just about supplies. He has also spoken several times about the guardsmen being "heroes, who would never desert their posts".

I think he was in a settlement once, National Guardsmen bolted, lost his daughter/friends/etc. and now he straight up hates them.


Ah, here we go. And you'll notice he tells Andrea that some of the people in Woodbury are veterans, but no active-duty soldiers.


Magruda: If you want to get technical about it all of the nuclear power plants in the world of which Georgia has 3 would meltdown Chernoble/Fukashima style leaving much of the world an uninhabitable wasteland.


That was one of my nitpicks with "Revolution". I'm no nuclear power expert but I don't imagine reactors take kindly to having their plug pulled without so much as a working backup generator.
 
2012-11-05 06:56:25 PM  

fusillade762: That was one of my nitpicks with "Revolution". I'm no nuclear power expert but I don't imagine reactors take kindly to having their plug pulled without so much as a working backup generator.


The reactor would be fine, it's the spent fuel rods that cause the problem, without constant cooling they melt down. When Fukashima lost power that is what caused their problems in Japan whose radiation reached California at one point.

It has always bugged me that a "power" station can't supply its own power.
 
2012-11-05 07:23:32 PM  

fusillade762: Wicked Chinchilla: Ok he did it to show that he's a badguy for the audience at home, but why would he not want to keep these men at his town and further strengthen his community? Adding an extra few men to the walls couldn't hurt, right? Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em? And why would all his little hatchet men just agree that it was a good idea?

When he beat the one guardsmen to death, there was pure hatred on his face. It wasn't just about supplies. He has also spoken several times about the guardsmen being "heroes, who would never desert their posts".

I think he was in a settlement once, National Guardsmen bolted, lost his daughter/friends/etc. and now he straight up hates them.

Ah, here we go. And you'll notice he tells Andrea that some of the people in Woodbury are veterans, but no active-duty soldiers.


Magruda: If you want to get technical about it all of the nuclear power plants in the world of which Georgia has 3 would meltdown Chernoble/Fukashima style leaving much of the world an uninhabitable wasteland.

That was one of my nitpicks with "Revolution". I'm no nuclear power expert but I don't imagine reactors take kindly to having their plug pulled without so much as a working backup generator.


You have to go with it. In DOTD they just state "power is nuclear". No reason to go all Lucifers Hammer on the plot line.
 
2012-11-05 07:34:53 PM  
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2012-11-05 09:53:36 PM  

Strategeryz0r: So when does the show fulfill the comic's rape quota?

This season is certainly living up to the zombie murder and survivor hardship expectations. The rape quota has yet to be filled unfortunately.


I haven't read the books - are they legitimate rapes?
 
2012-11-05 10:08:52 PM  

Father_Jack: someonelse: born_yesterday: And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.

I can't believe she did that. Why did she do that? So dumb. Plus, she evidently DIDN'T tell Andrea this same vital information when they were deciding whether or not to leave. Did she think giving Andrea the stink-eye would somehow impart "I saw evidence that the Gov killed the military guys" telepathically?

That killing the guardsmen scene from last week made no sense to me.

Ok he did it to show that he's a badguy for the audience at home, but why would he not want to keep these men at his town and further strengthen his community? Adding an extra few men to the walls couldn't hurt, right? Or is it just more like he views them as a threat to his authoritah and thus offs em? And why would all his little hatchet men just agree that it was a good idea?


Military folks that have hung on that long are highly motivated and will stand for taking shiat.

There was no way a super type A asshole like the Gov. was going o let those people into his town and disrupt the sweet thing he ha going while usurping his Authoritai!
 
2012-11-05 10:27:02 PM  

FarkerSnow: a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


She didn't, she passed out from the pain of having one without anesthetic and with no ability to close up afterwards she was bleeding to death. And then there was the bullet from Carl's gun, That sealed the deal.
 
2012-11-05 10:41:41 PM  

Digitalstrange: FarkerSnow: a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.

She didn't, she passed out from the pain of having one without anesthetic and with no ability to close up afterwards she was bleeding to death. And then there was the bullet from Carl's gun, That sealed the deal.


That's my thinking. Hershel's gonna realize she wasnt dead when Carl shot her. If C finds out, that's really gonna fark him up.
 
2012-11-05 10:50:34 PM  

calbert: minor quibble:

the sexual relationship between Glen and Maggie. you would think that with all of the drama surrounding Lori and her pregnancy and how it has been affecting the entire group, that Glen and Maggie (or any other 2 characters) would take the high road and just abstain from vaginal intercourse until things settled down.

i wonder if Maggie's sexual desire will be extinguished now that she's seen what happened to Lori?

and I know that people are people and have urges, but c'mon. not until things are settled.

it also just seemed rather silly that scene with Glen and Maggie in the guard tower, that seemed like it was done more for the enjoyment of the crew and it really felt out of place at that time and in their current situation.


You have never had sex in your life have you?
 
2012-11-05 11:47:35 PM  
When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.
 
2012-11-06 12:14:06 AM  

FinFangFark: kumanoki: inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.

That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.

I was thinking along those lines too. If you watch the promo for the next show, everyone is trying to talk Rick from going in somewhere...My thoughts are Carl didn't shoot her, confesses to not doing it, and Rick wants to go in after her. He does, and finds that Carol saved Lori somehow, but with hemorrhaging so much blood, I guess the idea will be she goes into a coma, and that's where Woodbury's nurse and running into Andrea and Michonne come in to play.


What nurse?
 
2012-11-06 12:36:54 AM  

buffalosoldier: FinFangFark: kumanoki: inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.

That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.

I was thinking along those lines too. If you watch the promo for the next show, everyone is trying to talk Rick from going in somewhere...My thoughts are Carl didn't shoot her, confesses to not doing it, and Rick wants to go in after her. He does, and finds that Carol saved Lori somehow, but with hemorrhaging so much blood, I guess the idea will be she goes into a coma, and that's where Woodbury's nurse and running into Andrea and Michonne come in to play.

What nurse?


The nurse from Woodbury? Read much?
 
2012-11-06 12:38:30 AM  

mikebellman: When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.


I don't think zombie eyes work that well in the first place. They seem to rely on hearing, smell and that mystical zombie sixth sense they have about fresh meat.
 
2012-11-06 12:45:23 AM  

mikebellman: When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.


There's lots of ways to get rid of them. They go after blood and noise. Start up a woodchipper, throw in a dead animal, and they should just climb in and chop themselves up. Or fire up a combine and 'harvest' them when they wander into a field. Basically, channel them into some sort of chopping blades and let them dispose of themselves. But remember, the show isn't about killing zombies, its about human behavior under extreme circumstances. The zombies are like faster than light travel on a sci-fi show, just a mechanism to enable the rest of the story line. So don't expect a whole lot in the better zombie killing department.

Q: Last year you said the Number 1 secret to The Walking Dead is keeping the zombies scary. Now that Season 3 presents the human danger, have you updated or amended that rule?

A: The number one rule is not so much keeping the zombies scary, it's keeping the show scary. [The zombies] are always a horror but as our folks learn to live with them, the new horror becomes what people will do to survive and to protect each other in this world. And what they're willing to sacrifice to achieve their ambition. So it's very much a human drama, and I think these new characters, particularly The Governor, certainly do play into that.
 
2012-11-06 05:43:33 AM  

Mazzic518: buffalosoldier: FinFangFark: kumanoki: inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.

That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.

I was thinking along those lines too. If you watch the promo for the next show, everyone is trying to talk Rick from going in somewhere...My thoughts are Carl didn't shoot her, confesses to not doing it, and Rick wants to go in after her. He does, and finds that Carol saved Lori somehow, but with hemorrhaging so much blood, I guess the idea will be she goes into a coma, and that's where Woodbury's nurse and running into Andrea and Michonne come in to play.

What nurse?

The nurse from Woodbury? Read much?


The black lady? I thought she is a doc.
 
2012-11-06 07:03:14 AM  

buffalosoldier: Mazzic518: buffalosoldier: FinFangFark: kumanoki: inelukii: Carol escaped as a result of T-Dog's sacrifice. She will end up coming across Lori and saving her life. There's a reason they showed Carol practicing on dead bodies. There's a reason T-Dog talked about how his death was going to be worth something. Carl didn't shoot Lori, he just fired a shot in frustration, anger, sadness, whatever.

We're not done with Lori yet. I'm ok with that, because I'm very much looking forward to the original plan for her character.

That would be a little far-fetched, but based on what we've seen so far, it's entirely plausible.

I was thinking along those lines too. If you watch the promo for the next show, everyone is trying to talk Rick from going in somewhere...My thoughts are Carl didn't shoot her, confesses to not doing it, and Rick wants to go in after her. He does, and finds that Carol saved Lori somehow, but with hemorrhaging so much blood, I guess the idea will be she goes into a coma, and that's where Woodbury's nurse and running into Andrea and Michonne come in to play.

What nurse?

The nurse from Woodbury? Read much?

The black lady? I thought she is a doc.


No. They're referring to another character all together that is present in the comics. If you aren't familiar with the comics, you won't know who they're talking about.
 
2012-11-06 10:52:29 AM  

fusillade762: mikebellman: When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.

I don't think zombie eyes work that well in the first place. They seem to rely on hearing, smell and that mystical zombie sixth sense they have about fresh meat.


Rick and Glenn had to mask their delicious human flesh scent by smearing zombie blood/flesh on them in Atlanta. So smell is important.
 
2012-11-06 01:10:07 PM  

PsyLord: fusillade762: mikebellman: When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.

I don't think zombie eyes work that well in the first place. They seem to rely on hearing, smell and that mystical zombie sixth sense they have about fresh meat.

Rick and Glenn had to mask their delicious human flesh scent by smearing zombie blood/flesh on them in Atlanta. So smell is important.


They should use more fireworks as distractions.
 
2012-11-06 01:49:51 PM  

Mikey1969: fusillade762: Mikey1969: ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.

Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started ...


What a mean little troll you are...
 
2012-11-06 02:34:12 PM  
They're waaaaay out in uncharted territory now - so far that any relation to the story in the books is just passing chance. I don't really like the direction at this point - they've lost so many core characters that they're either going to have to start over completely story-wise with a host of new people or just shut down the series altogether. Rick, Daryl, Short-Run and Herschel aren't enough to carry the story and the kids/ladies that are left are too weak as characters to help out.
 
2012-11-06 02:46:29 PM  

cefm: They're waaaaay out in uncharted territory now - so far that any relation to the story in the books is just passing chance. I don't really like the direction at this point - they've lost so many core characters that they're either going to have to start over completely story-wise with a host of new people or just shut down the series altogether. Rick, Daryl, Short-Run and Herschel aren't enough to carry the story and the kids/ladies that are left are too weak as characters to help out.


only rick and carl need to survive. every one else is expendable, and at some point pretty much every one else is going to die. It will be fine. Walking Dead is about Rick and Carl.
 
2012-11-06 04:00:28 PM  

realityVSperception: Or fire up a combine and 'harvest' them when they wander into a field. Basically, channel them into some sort of chopping blades and let them dispose of themselves.


How about put a goat or something in a cage and suspend the cage 8 feet past the edge of a huge cliff?
 
2012-11-06 04:55:35 PM  

Evil Mackerel: PsyLord: fusillade762: mikebellman: When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.

I don't think zombie eyes work that well in the first place. They seem to rely on hearing, smell and that mystical zombie sixth sense they have about fresh meat.

Rick and Glenn had to mask their delicious human flesh scent by smearing zombie blood/flesh on them in Atlanta. So smell is important.

They should use more fireworks as distractions.


As I recall road flares seemed to work pretty well, too.


realityVSperception: There's lots of ways to get rid of them. They go after blood and noise. Start up a woodchipper, throw in a dead animal, and they should just climb in and chop themselves up. Or fire up a combine and 'harvest' them when they wander into a field. Basically, channel them into some sort of chopping blades and let them dispose of themselves.


horrornews.net
 
2012-11-06 05:10:50 PM  

Evil Mackerel: PsyLord: fusillade762: mikebellman: When will they use PAINT as a defense against Walkers? If they can't see you, they can't grab you. Just go to the fence and spray paint the eyeballs.

I don't think zombie eyes work that well in the first place. They seem to rely on hearing, smell and that mystical zombie sixth sense they have about fresh meat.

Rick and Glenn had to mask their delicious human flesh scent by smearing zombie blood/flesh on them in Atlanta. So smell is important.

They should use more fireworks as distractions.


Swipe another idea from a past zombie flic? Sure, why not. No one complained the first hundred times they did that.
 
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