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2012-11-05 04:00:10 AM

ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.


Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started out well, and has turned into one of the slowest paced shows that I currently watched. My kids have more exciting news in a comprable time fram than the show at this point.

But it's obviously an ADHD thing, because I haven't articulated my issues at all, I just said 'Zombie show slow!' and moved on, amirite?
 
2012-11-05 04:10:15 AM
t.qkme.me
 
2012-11-05 04:12:36 AM
www.walkingdeadcomicbook.com
 
2012-11-05 05:25:17 AM

Mikey1969: ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.

Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started out well, and has turned ...


So why are you even bothering to post (at length) here? Just move on with your life already. 

Even ZeroCorpse gave up biatching in Whedon threads.
 
2012-11-05 05:38:42 AM
So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.
 
2012-11-05 05:46:37 AM
Like.. wow. I can't believe they packed as much into one episode as they did. Might've been a bit TOO much.
 
2012-11-05 05:56:22 AM

mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...


Super fingers, too. The can reach in and instantly disembowel people.
 
2012-11-05 06:36:37 AM

balthan: mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...

Super fingers, too. The can reach in and instantly disembowel people.


Bone fragments can be sharp. Big Tiny got killed for less.


FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


She was tired.

Of all the fan hate! *insert Andrew Dice Clay "OHHH!" sound here*
 
2012-11-05 06:37:53 AM

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


I agree.
Now if she wasn't dead, then Carl killed her. And if Carl's shot wasn't a brain blaster she could still come back and overact.
 
2012-11-05 06:38:35 AM

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


She would bleed out w/o bandages and the pain would be horrendous. Plus, those lower abdominal muscles were cut with a 12 year old's buck knife, not a scalpel.
 
2012-11-05 06:42:07 AM

fusillade762: Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?


Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.

Ah, you noticed that, too?


Yes I did, and I think that was fantastic. That scene showed that Merle probably does love his little brother, and that under the surface, the Gov's thugs know how far they can push him.
 
2012-11-05 06:44:50 AM

born_yesterday: fusillade762: Did anybody else notice the twitch under the Governor's eye when Merle confronted him about "family"?


Voodoo_Stu: Any one else notice the zombies seem to hate mercy? This is at least the second person to go after being the only person arguing to not kill people earlier in the same episode.

Ah, you noticed that, too?

Yes I did, and I think that was fantastic. That scene showed that Merle probably does love his little brother, and that under the surface, the Gov's thugs know how far they can push him.


Yeah, that 'I'll tell you what-I'll even come with you' was a serious threat. Plus the Gov hooks to the left and needs to tighten up his backswing if he plans a trip to Augusta.
 
2012-11-05 06:47:54 AM
And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.

I thought that might be coming, because I've heard he was a bad guy in the comics, but it still surprised me. I would think a group of trained soldiers would be an asset to someone trying to "rebuild civilization", but I guess it's a power thing. Lucky he can trust every one of the shooters to not say a word...

And writing T-Dog out of the show, so that he can recover from his wounds and have his own spin-off show was brilliant. While I think Darrel could help resolve a conflict between Merle and Rick, I think T-Dog or Merle would have had to die when those two met up. Now that T-Dog is fighting zombies on his own in sunny Miami, that won't be a problem.
 
2012-11-05 06:49:39 AM

fusillade762: Mikey1969: ZeroCorpse: You could have saved a lot of typing by just saying "I have the attention span of oatmeal" or "I have severe ADHD."

This is the show. This is what a good zombie story is: Drama with a horror background. A horror-tinged soap opera, for lack of a better phrase.

If you want a lot of action and less character development, I suggest picking up recent zombie movies like "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" or "Resident Evil" or the 3D remake of "Night of the Living Dead" (which bears NO resemblance to the Romero or Savini versions, but does at least have Sid Haig being gross.)

If you don't like the show, then give up and find something else. There's certainly no shortage of zombie flicks out there now.

Cute. I see you've fallen for this line of shiat, too. I know, it's an easy snare, you get to sound more sophisticated without having to understand what writing a TV show is actually about. When the show gets so slow that encountering and killing zombies becomes just a footnote, you've got an issue. Sure, you can get up on your special little soapbox and make ADHD jokes, but it doesn't impress me. 4 weeks of arguing on a farm does nothing to make the show interesting or 'fresh', it just takes a small amount of actual material and stretches it out over as long a span as possible. Whenever they DO get a new piece of drama to deal with, they knock it out ASAP and get back to bickering. The prisoners they ran into inside are a good example, that lasted almost no time, and now we'll get 4 weeks of them wandering around the prison with no new plot development, except that they killed some zombies. Someone will probably cut themselves at some point, and they'll have 5 tense minutes while they embark on a major run to get supplies, then they'll return to clearing the prison or arguing. The whole thing with the 'Governor' may play out well at least.

Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started out well, and has turned ...

So why are you even bothering to post (at length) here? Just move on with your life already. 

Even ZeroCorpse gave up biatching in Whedon threads.


Because unlike the people who seemingly Poston boards like this because they had nothing else to do, I actually watch the show, you stupid ass.
 
2012-11-05 06:52:27 AM
I stayed awake for that?

The last show I watched that was this S-L-O-W was Caprica.
 
2012-11-05 07:00:44 AM
I wish the show would stick to the comic more this is starting to get ridiculous

I love the show but I am sad how disassociated the writers have become from the original story.
 
2012-11-05 07:05:45 AM

FarkerSnow: So, why did Lori die immediately from a c-section? That shouldn't have killed her.


It looked like she was already suffering from some kind of internal bleeding. Add on the now external bleeding, supported by people who have no medical training aside from the occasional birthing of a cow, and well... there ya go.
 
2012-11-05 07:10:07 AM
Anyone else not trust off-screen deaths on this show? They seem to have very little problem showing the characters getting killed in all kinds of violent ways, why suddenly so shy?

I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.
 
2012-11-05 07:28:39 AM

GameSprocket: I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.


Where are they getting all the gasoline to do this senseless vehicle shuffling, also and.
 
2012-11-05 07:41:05 AM

DownTheRabbitHole: I wish the show would stick to the comic more this is starting to get ridiculous

I love the show but I am sad how disassociated the writers have become from the original story.


They're doing that on purpose with the blessing of Robert Kirkman. They want to keep the audience guessing, including those who have read the comics. They mention this on an episode of Talking Dead.
 
2012-11-05 07:46:46 AM
Hey, New T-Dogg. Say, you don't mind if we call you New T-Dogg, do you? That'd be swell, New T-Dogg.
 
2012-11-05 07:52:27 AM
Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.
 
2012-11-05 07:58:03 AM

WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.


It would be appropriate if the writers had it so that Rick went in to see what was left of Lori and she was crawling around all cut open and moaning out of a neck wound because Carl didn't have the stones to off his own mom.

Then again, they did the barn flashback, and C-dog blew by Maggie and the baby like he was hardcore, so I don't know.
 
2012-11-05 08:01:41 AM

WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.


So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?
 
2012-11-05 08:09:26 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.

So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?


Stop it! You're making my nipples hard!
 
2012-11-05 08:20:26 AM

Mr. Pokeylope: I need a T-Dog "Never Forget" pic to put on a shirt, STAT.


i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-05 08:26:36 AM
Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?
 
2012-11-05 08:28:12 AM
so how long before we get a screen cap of Carl's new steely-eyed gaze captioned "taking care of business"?
 
2012-11-05 08:37:29 AM
T-Dog regrets not wearing shoulderpads.
 
2012-11-05 08:39:47 AM

Gwendolyn: I watch every week hoping for Laurie to die. Maybe one day I'll get my wish.


Granted.
 
2012-11-05 08:45:24 AM

WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?


Could be Merl. No problem there.
 
2012-11-05 08:50:08 AM

WhiskeyBender: ExperianScaresCthulhu: WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.

So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?

Stop it! You're making my nipples hard!


can't be any worse for Rick than the taste of Shane's dick -- or Joe down the street's.
 
2012-11-05 08:55:13 AM

WhiskeyBender: ExperianScaresCthulhu: WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.

So now Rick's the Governor pulling out Lori's teeth to kiss her, vomiting and trying again with the conviction that he'll get used to the taste?

Stop it! You're making my nipples hard!


I haven't read the comics, but even the plot summary on Wiki leads me to believe there will be MANY plotlines that go...unexplored for the television audience.

I'm glad they're veering from the comics. Now I could read them, and see an alternative storyline in the same universe.
 
2012-11-05 09:03:49 AM

oi_piss_me_off: way to be there for your son there, Rick


To be fair, he had found out T-Dog was dead.
 
2012-11-05 09:06:25 AM

balthan: mediablitz: Those zombies sure have strong jaw muscles. Just bite into a shoulder and rip out a giant chunk...

Super fingers, too. The can reach in and instantly disembowel people.


They feel no pain, so they can stress their bones, muscles and teeth beyond typical human levels. You could clench your jaw muscles to the point that you almost break teeth, but good sense and pain thresholds keep you from doing so.
 
2012-11-05 09:09:31 AM

WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?


Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.
 
2012-11-05 09:32:00 AM

WhiskeyBender: Anybody else think Carl might not have shot Lori since it didn't show it? I could see him keeping her locked up.


Not at all. He's seen enough to know what happens.

If you watch a loved one die, and you know they will come back as a walker. Do you wait for them to regen and then double tap, or do you disrupt the brain while they are first dead to keep them from coming back at all?

I respected the way T-Dog went out. I've been bitten, I will die. Do I sit back and whimper, waiting for it to happen or go out in a blaze of glory?
 
2012-11-05 09:42:33 AM

Mikey1969:
Like I said, you obviously don't know how this works, but the pacing in this show is horrible. It started ...


Not going to repeat the massive steaming piles of derp you keep posting, but I have no compassion for you or anyone else complaning about not being able to follow the show/catch up/watch entire hours of television when AMC constantly replays long stretches of the Walking Dead. Often the entire series, often on weekends. If you don't like the show, don't watch it. It's a drama, not a gore-fest. Typically drama requires some level of character development and if the characters aren't shaping up the way you like them it's too damn bad. You don't like how a story develops then pick up your action figures and go play out your own story in your sandbox or else accept that people who write the shows and movies you watch have different ideas and opinions.

And your "entire year between seasons" comment just paints you as a fool for not understanding the TV filming process. Most tv series have some sort of break in their airing schedule, popular ones usually have it in the summer when viewership is lower. With fewer episodes than most major network shows the gap just seems longer and the midseason break (which many shows have as well) only helps to stretch out the series so much.

(wipes sweat of brow, resumes working)
 
2012-11-05 09:46:04 AM

Teh-Yak: WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?

Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.


Right. Correct you are, I just saw it. I wonder what that leads to..maybe they will see if they can domesticate him like Michonnes pets?
 
2012-11-05 09:46:54 AM
Carl is a certified badass now. He's taking down walkers like a pro. Too bad we don't have badass Andrea from the comic. I don't even know if they'll be much of an opportunity to re-introduce Andrea and Michonne to the prison group before the Governor starts causing trouble.
 
2012-11-05 09:47:25 AM
There's an online Q&A with showrunner Glen Mazzara, and one thing asked was if they keep some key elements from the comic, one involving The Governor and Rick. Kirkman has stated he regrets the major character change to Rick as a result of that storyline, and I agree.

I don't see that happening in the TV show.

/cryptic enough?
 
2012-11-05 09:47:57 AM

Teh-Yak: WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?

Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.


They were talking about using walkers with their arms and lower jaws chopped off as camouflage last week.
 
2012-11-05 09:48:34 AM

GameSprocket: Anyone else not trust off-screen deaths on this show? They seem to have very little problem showing the characters getting killed in all kinds of violent ways, why suddenly so shy?

I did enjoy the half hour of watching them rearrange vehicles. It looked the the prison had valet parking.


I"d venture a guess that censors probably didn't want a kid to shoot a "real" human. Zombies ok, real humans not ok. 
Kinda like when you see kids shows with alot of violence. Samurai Jack, Clone Wars... those have alot of violence if you think about it, but the only ones getting dismembered, beheaded, and being destroyed in brutal ways are robots or anything else that is not technically alive.

That being said, but did anyone else think Carl was ready to off that baby when it didn't start breathing right away? You could see on his face he was somewhat relieved till he realized he had to deal with Lori.
 
2012-11-05 10:02:15 AM
Pretty good episode. Midway through the second season this show improved more than any other show I've ever seen. It's been great ever since; admittedly I almost gave up on it.
 
2012-11-05 10:13:33 AM

born_yesterday: And I'm pretty sure Michonne signed her own death warrant by subtly telling the governor that she knows he killed the guardsmen.


I can't believe she did that. Why did she do that? So dumb. Plus, she evidently DIDN'T tell Andrea this same vital information when they were deciding whether or not to leave. Did she think giving Andrea the stink-eye would somehow impart "I saw evidence that the Gov killed the military guys" telepathically?
 
2012-11-05 10:13:45 AM

TheLopper: It's easy the best weapon in a pinch. It's light, unbreakable, easy to use and easy to find.


And it has a bigger sweet spot!
 
2012-11-05 10:23:23 AM

FinFangFark: There's an online Q&A with showrunner Glen Mazzara, and one thing asked was if they keep some key elements from the comic, one involving The Governor and Rick. Kirkman has stated he regrets the major character change to Rick as a result of that storyline, and I agree.

I don't see that happening in the TV show.

/cryptic enough?


At least one of the elements I believe that you're referring to would seem more redundant given Merle's presence in the TV series.

/cryptic enough response?
 
2012-11-05 10:24:22 AM
Jebus that episode was a kick in the gut. My only take is that I am sad to see Tdog go and mixed on Lori. It does seem like they ahve an instant replacement for Tdog in the one prosoner .... I just wonder if the mustach man is going to take Lori's place in Rick's heart and bed?
 
2012-11-05 10:26:56 AM

unyon: FinFangFark: There's an online Q&A with showrunner Glen Mazzara, and one thing asked was if they keep some key elements from the comic, one involving The Governor and Rick. Kirkman has stated he regrets the major character change to Rick as a result of that storyline, and I agree.

I don't see that happening in the TV show.

/cryptic enough?

At least one of the elements I believe that you're referring to would seem more redundant given Merle's presence in the TV series.

/cryptic enough response?


Or would make more sense considering Merle's desire for revenge.

I wonder how long until Rick decides to phone a friend.
 
2012-11-05 10:27:50 AM

Teh-Yak: WienerButt: Can anyone get a screen shot of the "next weeks episode" preview where a walker is biting someone's arm?

Don't have a screencap but I do know it was the Governor's scientist guy. I had to rewind and pause last night because that seemed like a big deal.


Brain?
 
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