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(The Raw Story)   Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume is 'puzzled' by these strange polls from battleground states showing a persistent lead for Obama. How could this have happened?   (rawstory.com) divider line 63
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2012-11-04 06:29:51 PM
13 votes:
Maybe you libs should look a little more closely at the 3 options listed in TFA:

1) The polls are all wrong
2) Romney's ground game will turn out enough votes to make up the difference
3) Obama will win

As you can clearly see, 2 of these 3 options result in a Romney victory, which naturally means Romney has 66% chance of winning. Therefore, even if the polls were skewed 16% towards Obama -- unlikely, despite the lamestream media bias -- Romney can still safely win above 50%. It's just basic subtraction here, folks. AND, if the polls aren't biased at all, then it won't just be a Romney victory but a land-slide man-date for conservatives. You libs are gonna be sooo pissed.
2012-11-04 06:21:36 PM
11 votes:
I wouldn't say that Brit Hume is a political analyst so much as he's a political anal cyst.
2012-11-04 05:21:28 PM
8 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.


saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.
2012-11-04 06:50:51 PM
7 votes:

randomjsa: I'd also like to hear about how if this trend continues, and it will, what you think is going to happen in 2014 and 2016.


I think Obama is highly unlikely to win a Presidential election in either of those years.
2012-11-04 06:59:00 PM
6 votes:
What a puzzled Brit Hume might look like:

i60.photobucket.com
2012-11-04 06:34:06 PM
6 votes:

js34603: Notabunny: Stock up on ammunition, water, canned food and batteries. Board your windows and doors. When Obama wins on Tuesday, the neocons are going be entirely blindsided and are going to contemplate an alcohol-fueled 2nd Amendment solution.

Yes I live in constant fear too. I'm totally going to stock up on essentials because I in no way believe when I wake up Wednesday morning absolutely nothing will be different.

It seems totally plausible to me there will be armed revolt instead of a bunch of whining and crying on the Internet no matter who wins. I guess the "neocons" were just saving their energy in 2008, but this time, hooo boy better board my doors.


The key is to be prepared. When it became obvious Obama is going to win, i removed the stairs in my house and replaced them with ladders. I also cut an escape hatch in my roof. If the whining hordes attack, hopefully I can escape to the roof and be rescued by Obama's black helicopters. I have it all planned out.
2012-11-04 07:03:38 PM
5 votes:

AkaDad: I heart Fark memes.


I work in Fark memes.

So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.

Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about.

This is how bad info gets passed around.

If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do.

Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.
2012-11-04 04:08:05 PM
5 votes:
pubrecord.org

The insidiousness just keeps going deeper and deeper. (Now they got to Fox news)
2012-11-04 06:50:02 PM
4 votes:
I'm not puzzled at all.

As stated, if the media and the entertainment industry hadn't been covering for this president for the last four years, he wouldn't even be running for office and the Democrats would be trying to figure out a way to tell you they have some great ideas if you'll just elect this other guy.

I do have another question however.

I would like a liberal to explain how Bush during his first term went from barely winning to getting more support while Obama did such a bang up job as president that he's losing multiple states outright and dropping 5-10% in other states that he is winning. I'd also like to hear about how if this trend continues, and it will, what you think is going to happen in 2014 and 2016.
2012-11-04 05:24:27 PM
4 votes:

thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.


Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.
2012-11-04 06:59:14 PM
3 votes:
Could it be people are tired of this?  Link

My favorite image of Fox so far, and yet how true. Could not get it to come up as photo in Fark.
2012-11-04 06:57:53 PM
3 votes:

Zasteva: AkaDad: If you unskew the polls by harmonizing the statistical quirks, Obama is farked.

Sounds interesting...

What are the statistical quirks, and how do you harmonize them?


1. 30% of Obama supporters vote for Romney
2. 1 in 7 polls have not yet been unskewed
3. Silent majority

Book it; done
2012-11-04 06:45:43 PM
3 votes:
i45.tinypic.com
2012-11-04 06:34:06 PM
3 votes:

AkaDad: DamnYankees: quatchi: Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume is saying that it's "puzzling" that national polls indicate GOP hopeful Mitt Romney is tied with President Barack Obama while swing state polls suggest that Democrats are going to win enough electoral votes for to keep the White House.

Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4

Also, a new YouGov poll with the largest sample size I've ever seen (36,000 likely voters) shows Obama up 2.

If you unskew the polls by harmonizing the statistical quirks, Obama is farked.


That's my idea,
i49.tinypic.com
2012-11-04 06:21:33 PM
3 votes:

Notabunny: Stock up on ammunition, water, canned food and batteries. Board your windows and doors. When Obama wins on Tuesday, the neocons are going be entirely blindsided and are going to contemplate an alcohol-fueled 2nd Amendment solution.


Yes I live in constant fear too. I'm totally going to stock up on essentials because I in no way believe when I wake up Wednesday morning absolutely nothing will be different.

It seems totally plausible to me there will be armed revolt instead of a bunch of whining and crying on the Internet no matter who wins. I guess the "neocons" were just saving their energy in 2008, but this time, hooo boy better board my doors.
2012-11-04 04:56:54 PM
3 votes:
It's ok Brit. We'll have someone bring you a blanket and a glass of warm milk.
2012-11-05 01:10:10 AM
2 votes:

rynthetyn: Yeah. And Rick Scott and the Florida Republicans deliberately changed early voting so that it ended the Saturday before the election to minimize turnout by black voters who historically would carpool to go vote after church on Sunday.


This will backfire. The Republicans don't seem to appreciate the fact that America is a Christian nation, and that we will not vote for a party that is so blatantly anti-Christian.
2012-11-04 11:24:32 PM
2 votes:
The polls are faked: Virgil Goode wins in a landslide.
2012-11-04 09:55:59 PM
2 votes:
www.rawstory.com 

www.mykoreanmom.com
2012-11-04 09:35:47 PM
2 votes:
I'm liking how the polls have looked this week, In Nate I Trust, but don't get me wrong. The butthole isn't coming unclenched until I see Brit Hume dejectedly call Ohio for Obama.
2012-11-04 09:22:27 PM
2 votes:

Mean Daddy: Maybe because he isn't sucking Obama's d*ck, like ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, TNT, CNN... shall I go on.


Oh, you are one of those "only fox tells it straight" tards.

Can't wait to read your tears of impotent rage Tuesday. God damn, I seriously have a giant erection thinking off all the butthurt, I'm finally really excited, really really excited. It's like when I heard they were making a lord of the rings movie. I feel a similar sense of giddy excitement.

The tears and impotent rage of people like you.. Oh man, I feel so alive. I'm going to cum so hard listening to limbaugh the next morning.
2012-11-04 08:41:08 PM
2 votes:
yafh.com
2012-11-04 07:50:36 PM
2 votes:
i159.photobucket.com
2012-11-04 07:07:34 PM
2 votes:
bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com
2012-11-04 07:00:52 PM
2 votes:

randomjsa: I'd also like to hear about how if this trend continues, and it will, what you think is going to happen in 2014 and 2016.


I doubt Obama is going to win re-election in either of those years.
2012-11-04 06:58:07 PM
2 votes:

Speaking for Iowa... we were insulated from most of the recession, we have about 4400 wind energy jobs that pay decent wages, and we have low fuel prices because our gas comes from refined Alberta Tar Sands oil. Romney's "energy policy:"

oi50.tinypic.com


would cost us those 4400 jobs, and his "day one" promise to approve Keystone would send our cheap gas to China. 

Gee. I can't imagine why the president is leading in Iowa.
2012-11-04 06:52:43 PM
2 votes:
It's not that hard to figure out, Brit. Romney hasn't been able to drum up excitement in his own party. The GOP picked a new front runner in the primary so often that I used that as a way to know when I should throw out the milk in the fridge.

Combine that with the fact that he reminds lots of people of every boss they've ever hated and the fact that he's taken more positions than the Kama Sutra, and it's easy to see why he's lagging behind.

FFS, even the guys at Fox weren't excited about Rmoney until their bosses told them to be.
2012-11-04 06:46:49 PM
2 votes:

Notabunny: Obama's black helicopters


That's racist?
2012-11-04 06:17:54 PM
2 votes:
He sounds very, very concerned.
2012-11-04 05:02:16 PM
2 votes:

DamnYankees: Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4


it's puzzling to me that romney can be ahead in all of the national polls, which are done by more seasoned polling firms, but is behind in the simple average of national polls.
2012-11-04 04:26:12 PM
2 votes:
These are not the polls you are looking for...
content8.flixster.com
2012-11-04 04:11:53 PM
2 votes:
I'm sure that if we just double weigh the polls for double accuracy that Romney will win.
2012-11-05 12:46:27 AM
1 votes:
imgs.xkcd.com
2012-11-04 11:35:53 PM
1 votes:

anfrind: south of San Diego


Mexico?
2012-11-04 11:13:09 PM
1 votes:

Skleenar: Modern Conservatism is a Con game played against the base.


~Ya think?~
2012-11-04 09:14:39 PM
1 votes:

Mean Daddy: Maybe because he isn't sucking Obama's d*ck, like ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, TNT, CNN... shall I go on.


The Lamestream media is absolutely sucking Obama's cock. Just look at how much they ignored the Romney supporting Gallup poll and emphasized all the others.

graphics8.nytimes.com
2012-11-04 09:11:43 PM
1 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: I think that, perhaps, maybe, it just because that it's possible that Brit Hume just might, in fact, be a frickin' moron.
That's only speculative.


It's further only speculative that Brit Hume might also be puzzled by shoelaces.
2012-11-04 07:53:30 PM
1 votes:

Altitude5280: The Freeper threads on the polls are quite amusing.


Oh, man...haven't been there in a while...do I dare...?

www.wolfhazmat.de

I'm going in!!
2012-11-04 07:44:55 PM
1 votes:

Raharu: randomjsa:
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WHARGARBLE#$%@#$GeaegargjkwHFKLW FWHELIRF HRFWJKF FW;Lh u I'm not puzzled at all.

As stated, if the media and the entertainment industry hadn't been covering for this president for the last four years, he wouldn't even be running for office and the Democrats would be trying to figure out a way to tell you they have some great ideas if you'll just elect this other guy.

I do have another question however.

I would like a liberal to explain how Bush during his first term went from barely winning to getting more support while Obama did such a bang up job as president that he's losing multiple states outright and dropping 5-10% in other states that he is winning. I'd also like to hear about how if this trend continues, and it will, what you think is going to happen in 2014 and 2016.DERRRRRRRRRRRP R@#$R%@ GJfofvjajfioj asdfbhasklh



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To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the STATISTICALS:

1. 30% of Obama supporters vote for Romney
2. 1 in 7 polls have not yet been unskewed
3. Silent majority

You're gonna be so pissed
2012-11-04 07:27:27 PM
1 votes:

soporific: an event that happened between September 10, 2001, and September 12, 2001


BOOM the Feast of Paphnutius of Thebes

farking September 11
2012-11-04 07:27:00 PM
1 votes:

soporific: How did Bush go from being unpopular to popular in his first term? It must have had something to do with an event that happened between September 10, 2001, and September 12, 2001. Somewhere in that time period, I think, is when Bush suddenly got a lot more popular and received a lot more support from the American people. I know it's got to be somewhere in that range of dates, but I just can't put my finger on it.


America does love Nickelback.
2012-11-04 07:22:34 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: I would like a liberal to explain how Bush during his first term went from barely winning to getting more support while Obama did such a bang up job as president that he's losing multiple states outright and dropping 5-10% in other states that he is winning. I'd also like to hear about how if this trend continues, and it will, what you think is going to happen in 2014 and 2016.


How did Bush go from being unpopular to popular in his first term? It must have had something to do with an event that happened between September 10, 2001, and September 12, 2001. Somewhere in that time period, I think, is when Bush suddenly got a lot more popular and received a lot more support from the American people. I know it's got to be somewhere in that range of dates, but I just can't put my finger on it.

It's almost as if that same kind of event didn't happen during Obama's first term. But I still can't put my finger on it.

And if that kind of event keeps not happening, then I don't know what we'll see in 2014 and 2016. I'm not sure how America will feel about that kind of thing not happening for a very long time.
2012-11-04 07:21:49 PM
1 votes:

socratesthekidd: themadtupper: Jackson Herring: theknuckler_33: The proof is in the pudding putting

for all intensive intrusive purposes, this is true

FTFY

intents and purposes

/pushes pashas glasses up


FTFY
i1107.photobucket.com
2012-11-04 07:21:17 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: theknuckler_33: The proof is in the pudding

for all intensive purposes, this is true


Hah, my neck store neighbor says that.
2012-11-04 07:19:46 PM
1 votes:

themadtupper: Jackson Herring: theknuckler_33: The proof is in the pudding putting

for all intensive intrusive purposes, this is true

FTFY


I'm pretty sure it's "all in tents and porpoises".
2012-11-04 07:18:14 PM
1 votes:

socratesthekidd: themadtupper: Jackson Herring: theknuckler_33: The proof is in the pudding putting

for all intensive intrusive purposes, this is true

FTFY

intents and purposes porpoises


FTFY
/pet peeve
2012-11-04 07:05:06 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear here.


Sorry. Pet peeve.
2012-11-04 07:03:29 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: The proof is in the pudding


for all intensive purposes, this is true
2012-11-04 06:55:25 PM
1 votes:

quatchi: Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume is saying that it's "puzzling" that national polls indicate GOP hopeful Mitt Romney is tied with President Barack Obama while swing state polls suggest that Democrats are going to win enough electoral votes for to keep the White House.


As a person who just so happens to live in one of these states (Iowa, in fact), I would laugh and laugh if my state would be the one that officially puts Obama past the magic 270 mark.

(That actually happened exactly 20 years ago when Clinton won, so it is possible)
2012-11-04 06:42:46 PM
1 votes:

DeltaPunch: thomps: DamnYankees: Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4

it's puzzling to me that romney can be ahead in all of the national polls, which are done by more seasoned polling firms, but is behind in the simple average of national polls.

Um, Nate Silver has Obama ahead in the popular vote 50.6% to 48.3%. Considering the margin of error is typically 2-3 points, there's plenty of room for lots of polls to show Romney ahead. But it's just not true that he leads in all or most of them, otherwise Nate Silver wouldn't be showing Obama ahead.



"MARGIN OF ERROR DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY"

t0.gstatic.com
2012-11-04 06:34:39 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: jso2897: thomps: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

even worse news for obama then.

Aren't you a little old to be writing letters to Santa Claus?

How have you been here since 2006 and don't know what a tongue-in-cheek troll looks like?


Whose tongue, and between whose cheeks?
This is important.
2012-11-04 06:28:19 PM
1 votes:

spongeboob: Emposter: I'm puzzled how he can call himself a political analyst when he doesn't understand how the electoral college works.

I'm puzzled how anyone can pay him for his political analysis when he doesn't understand how the US elects it's president.


because Fox News.
2012-11-04 06:26:58 PM
1 votes:
""And there's this striking discrepancy between national polls - which tend to be done, by and large, by older, more-seasoned polling firms - and state polls - a number of which are done by less-established uppity firms.
2012-11-04 06:24:53 PM
1 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: I think that, perhaps, maybe, it just because that it's possible that Brit Hume just might, in fact, be a frickin' moron.

That's only speculative.





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2012-11-04 06:23:18 PM
1 votes:

soporific: doyner: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

And Sunday polls have a statistical bias given the under sampling of NFL fans and Fox News Sunday mouth-breathers.

Don't forget Monday polls, which are biased because everyone's got a case of the Mondays.


And Tuesday's exit polls because they won't account for the DIEBOLD effect.
2012-11-04 06:20:27 PM
1 votes:

doyner: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

And Sunday polls have a statistical bias given the under sampling of NFL fans and Fox News Sunday mouth-breathers.


Don't forget Monday polls, which are biased because everyone's got a case of the Mondays.
2012-11-04 06:18:57 PM
1 votes:
I'm puzzled how he can call himself a political analyst when he doesn't understand how the electoral college works.
2012-11-04 06:18:39 PM
1 votes:
Someone's been feeding him red meat again. Get him back on his diet of gruel and lies immediately before he shiats himself.
2012-11-04 06:13:11 PM
1 votes:
I think that, perhaps, maybe, it just because that it's possible that Brit Hume just might, in fact, be a frickin' moron.

That's only speculative.
2012-11-04 05:27:35 PM
1 votes:
"We lied and we lied but Obama is still up! How could this have happened?" - Everyone at Fox except for Shep Smith and the janitors

The answer: Outrage induced heart attacks among Republicans (occasionally pushed along by low-quality crystal meth)
2012-11-04 05:26:03 PM
1 votes:

Nezorf: rynthetyn: Hey, given how the GOP is doing their best to deliver Florida and Ohio for Romney through illegitimate means, you've got to start the narrative that the polls are in Romney's favor so people don't question all the shenanigans.

Parts of Florida are already turning into a clusterfark, what with Miami-Dade opening, then closing, then reopening the supervisors office for in-person absentee voting today and the Obama campaign having to go to court to keep early voting going at one of the Orange County precincts because a bunch of people didn't get to vote due to a bomb threat yesterday.

This.
I think all laws that effect voting must be delayed by 2 years. It is disingenuous to change election laws so close to the election.


Yeah. And Rick Scott and the Florida Republicans deliberately changed early voting so that it ended the Saturday before the election to minimize turnout by black voters who historically would carpool to go vote after church on Sunday.
2012-11-04 04:53:37 PM
1 votes:
I get the feeling Brit is confused a lot.
2012-11-04 04:10:35 PM
1 votes:
Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume is saying that it's "puzzling" that national polls indicate GOP hopeful Mitt Romney is tied with President Barack Obama while swing state polls suggest that Democrats are going to win enough electoral votes for to keep the White House.

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Electoral votes, how the fark do they work?

Betcha he wasn't puzzled back in 2000 when Gore actually won the popular vote and lost because Florida.
 
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