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2012-11-04 04:08:05 PM
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The insidiousness just keeps going deeper and deeper. (Now they got to Fox news)
 
2012-11-04 04:10:35 PM
Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume is saying that it's "puzzling" that national polls indicate GOP hopeful Mitt Romney is tied with President Barack Obama while swing state polls suggest that Democrats are going to win enough electoral votes for to keep the White House.

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Electoral votes, how the fark do they work?

Betcha he wasn't puzzled back in 2000 when Gore actually won the popular vote and lost because Florida.
 
2012-11-04 04:11:53 PM
I'm sure that if we just double weigh the polls for double accuracy that Romney will win.
 
2012-11-04 04:26:12 PM
These are not the polls you are looking for...
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2012-11-04 04:26:33 PM

quatchi: Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume is saying that it's "puzzling" that national polls indicate GOP hopeful Mitt Romney is tied with President Barack Obama while swing state polls suggest that Democrats are going to win enough electoral votes for to keep the White House.


Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4

Also, a new YouGov poll with the largest sample size I've ever seen (36,000 likely voters) shows Obama up 2.
 
2012-11-04 04:27:40 PM
Hey, given how the GOP is doing their best to deliver Florida and Ohio for Romney through illegitimate means, you've got to start the narrative that the polls are in Romney's favor so people don't question all the shenanigans.

Parts of Florida are already turning into a clusterfark, what with Miami-Dade opening, then closing, then reopening the supervisors office for in-person absentee voting today and the Obama campaign having to go to court to keep early voting going at one of the Orange County precincts because a bunch of people didn't get to vote due to a bomb threat yesterday.
 
2012-11-04 04:51:06 PM
Well, I have to hand it to the stupid farking press - they managed to turn this into a horse-race after all, when it should have been over months ago because of Romney's repeated efforts to shoot himself in the foot.

I'm completely disgusted with my country and its election process.
 
2012-11-04 04:53:37 PM
I get the feeling Brit is confused a lot.
 
2012-11-04 04:56:54 PM
It's ok Brit. We'll have someone bring you a blanket and a glass of warm milk.
 
2012-11-04 05:02:16 PM

DamnYankees: Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4


it's puzzling to me that romney can be ahead in all of the national polls, which are done by more seasoned polling firms, but is behind in the simple average of national polls.
 
2012-11-04 05:08:38 PM

rynthetyn: Hey, given how the GOP is doing their best to deliver Florida and Ohio for Romney through illegitimate means, you've got to start the narrative that the polls are in Romney's favor so people don't question all the shenanigans.

Parts of Florida are already turning into a clusterfark, what with Miami-Dade opening, then closing, then reopening the supervisors office for in-person absentee voting today and the Obama campaign having to go to court to keep early voting going at one of the Orange County precincts because a bunch of people didn't get to vote due to a bomb threat yesterday.


This.
I think all laws that effect voting must be delayed by 2 years. It is disingenuous to change election laws so close to the election.
 
2012-11-04 05:09:47 PM

thomps: DamnYankees: Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4

it's puzzling to me that romney can be ahead in all of the national polls, which are done by more seasoned polling firms, but is behind in the simple average of national polls.


Take Gallup out and there isn't that much of a difference.
 
2012-11-04 05:15:43 PM
Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.
 
2012-11-04 05:21:28 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.


saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.
 
2012-11-04 05:24:27 PM

thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.


Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.
 
2012-11-04 05:26:03 PM

Nezorf: rynthetyn: Hey, given how the GOP is doing their best to deliver Florida and Ohio for Romney through illegitimate means, you've got to start the narrative that the polls are in Romney's favor so people don't question all the shenanigans.

Parts of Florida are already turning into a clusterfark, what with Miami-Dade opening, then closing, then reopening the supervisors office for in-person absentee voting today and the Obama campaign having to go to court to keep early voting going at one of the Orange County precincts because a bunch of people didn't get to vote due to a bomb threat yesterday.

This.
I think all laws that effect voting must be delayed by 2 years. It is disingenuous to change election laws so close to the election.


Yeah. And Rick Scott and the Florida Republicans deliberately changed early voting so that it ended the Saturday before the election to minimize turnout by black voters who historically would carpool to go vote after church on Sunday.
 
2012-11-04 05:27:35 PM
"We lied and we lied but Obama is still up! How could this have happened?" - Everyone at Fox except for Shep Smith and the janitors

The answer: Outrage induced heart attacks among Republicans (occasionally pushed along by low-quality crystal meth)
 
2012-11-04 05:33:31 PM

GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.


even worse news for obama then.
 
2012-11-04 05:40:56 PM

GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.


And Sunday polls have a statistical bias given the under sampling of NFL fans and Fox News Sunday mouth-breathers.
 
2012-11-04 05:41:00 PM
Like i said in a different thread, the GOP have cocooned themselves in an echo chamber, where everyone says the same thing- Obama is a universally hated man, the worst president in history, and there is no way he will be re-elected. How they handle waking up on Wednesday will be interesting.
 
2012-11-04 05:47:26 PM
Actually, if he said this 3 weeks ago, he'd have a point. But even national polls are breaking for Obama right now.

Probably the most telling one is Rasmussen. In previous years, Rasmussen's polls would always have a Republican lean, but in the week ahead of the election, it'll step into line with all the other polls. Rasmussen had Mitt Romney ahead as late as last week. Now, it's a tie.
 
2012-11-04 05:54:47 PM

DamnYankees: Also, the national polls don't really show a tie. Per Nate Silver:

Simple average of national polls released Thursday: Obama +0.9. Friday: Obama +1.2. Saturday: Obama +1.3. Today (so far): Obama +1.4


Cool beans.

For what it's worth, I just heard David Frum call it for Obama on the Patrick Duffy show onna CBC radio.
 
2012-11-04 06:09:12 PM

RexTalionis: Rasmussen had Mitt Romney ahead as late as last week. Now, it's a tie.


Did someone almost forget to put out the right numbers so they could be considered "accurate" for 2016?
 
2012-11-04 06:12:38 PM
Stock up on ammunition, water, canned food and batteries. Board your windows and doors. When Obama wins on Tuesday, the neocons are going be entirely blindsided and are going to contemplate an alcohol-fueled 2nd Amendment solution.
 
2012-11-04 06:13:11 PM
I think that, perhaps, maybe, it just because that it's possible that Brit Hume just might, in fact, be a frickin' moron.

That's only speculative.
 
2012-11-04 06:13:42 PM
No matter how delusional, hopeful, fanatic you are, sooner or later you have to deal with reality.
 
2012-11-04 06:13:46 PM
Because Brit Hume is a derper mouthpiece who isn't paid to think, perhaps?
 
2012-11-04 06:16:06 PM
Today's Nationals from Nate Silver's tweety about an hour ago

tie, tie, O+1, O+1, O+1, O+1, O+2, O+3, O+3, O+3.2
 
2012-11-04 06:17:54 PM
He sounds very, very concerned.
 
2012-11-04 06:18:39 PM
Someone's been feeding him red meat again. Get him back on his diet of gruel and lies immediately before he shiats himself.
 
2012-11-04 06:18:57 PM
I'm puzzled how he can call himself a political analyst when he doesn't understand how the electoral college works.
 
2012-11-04 06:20:27 PM

doyner: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

And Sunday polls have a statistical bias given the under sampling of NFL fans and Fox News Sunday mouth-breathers.


Don't forget Monday polls, which are biased because everyone's got a case of the Mondays.
 
2012-11-04 06:20:43 PM

thomps: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

even worse news for obama then.


Aren't you a little old to be writing letters to Santa Claus?
 
2012-11-04 06:20:51 PM

Emposter: I'm puzzled how he can call himself a political analyst when he doesn't understand how the electoral college works.


Well, it's less socially acceptable to call ones self a propagandist
 
2012-11-04 06:20:53 PM
He always has a sad droopy dog face whenever I see him. Of course I don't see him too often. The last time I saw his mug was during the 2008 election. I flipped it over to FN and him and some other guy were looking like they were 5 seconds away from crying.

He's not as famous as the Hannities and Oreillys or Douchies over there. Does he have his own show? Or do they just trot him out when they got bad news?
 
2012-11-04 06:21:33 PM

Notabunny: Stock up on ammunition, water, canned food and batteries. Board your windows and doors. When Obama wins on Tuesday, the neocons are going be entirely blindsided and are going to contemplate an alcohol-fueled 2nd Amendment solution.


Yes I live in constant fear too. I'm totally going to stock up on essentials because I in no way believe when I wake up Wednesday morning absolutely nothing will be different.

It seems totally plausible to me there will be armed revolt instead of a bunch of whining and crying on the Internet no matter who wins. I guess the "neocons" were just saving their energy in 2008, but this time, hooo boy better board my doors.
 
2012-11-04 06:21:36 PM
I wouldn't say that Brit Hume is a political analyst so much as he's a political anal cyst.
 
2012-11-04 06:23:18 PM

soporific: doyner: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

And Sunday polls have a statistical bias given the under sampling of NFL fans and Fox News Sunday mouth-breathers.

Don't forget Monday polls, which are biased because everyone's got a case of the Mondays.


And Tuesday's exit polls because they won't account for the DIEBOLD effect.
 
2012-11-04 06:24:53 PM

I_Am_Weasel: I think that, perhaps, maybe, it just because that it's possible that Brit Hume just might, in fact, be a frickin' moron.

That's only speculative.





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2012-11-04 06:24:55 PM
I caught a glimpse of CNN the other day at the gym and Virginia was light red (i.e. "leaning Romney") on their map.
 
2012-11-04 06:25:07 PM

jso2897: thomps: GAT_00: thomps: cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.

saturday polls have a known liberal statistical bias, given the under-sampling of college football fans.

Actually, published Saturday would have finished sampling mostly on Friday, so the under-sampling is of high school football fans.

even worse news for obama then.

Aren't you a little old to be writing letters to Santa Claus?


How have you been here since 2006 and don't know what a tongue-in-cheek troll looks like?
 
2012-11-04 06:25:30 PM

rthanu: He's not as famous as the Hannities and Oreillys or Douchies over there. Does he have his own show? Or do they just trot him out when they got bad news?


He had his own FOX show from 1998-2008 and is now a "senior political analyst" probably code for semi-retired. He did the 6PM "straight news" hour and before going to FOX was an ABC guy including a stint as Chief White House Correspondent.
 
2012-11-04 06:25:53 PM

Emposter: I'm puzzled how he can call himself a political analyst when he doesn't understand how the electoral college works.


I'm puzzled how anyone can pay him for his political analysis when he doesn't understand how the US elects it's president.
 
2012-11-04 06:26:14 PM
I guess enough voters figured out that President Obama is the best conservative leader since Ike.

Let's hope they call VA relatively early on Tuesday so everyone can stop worrying because if VA goes for the president (as it seems that it will), it's GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER.
 
2012-11-04 06:26:23 PM

js34603: I guess the "neocons" were just saving their energy in 2008, but this time, hooo boy better board my doors.


Well, the Bushies and their ilk knew it would take time for the economy to recover after their lil boy Dubya emptied it, I expect 2016 will be the vote fraud extravaganza. Think about it, do the entrenched GOP Neo-Cons really want Romney to have more power then themselves? However, I'm sure they'll take whatever the US voting public is stupidly willing to give them.
 
2012-11-04 06:26:29 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Interesting fact: Of 21 state polls released yesterday, Romney had a lead in 2 of them.

Anyone who thinks this race is a tossup is an idiot at this point.


VOTE VOTE VOTE all the same. There is no guarantee here. Republican vote suppression efforts are at an all-time high, and the snake is still dangerous even with its head cut off.
 
2012-11-04 06:26:31 PM

guilt by association: I caught a glimpse of CNN the other day at the gym and Virginia was light red (i.e. "leaning Romney") on their map.


Despite recent polls, I still consider Virginia a likely Romney win. If Romney can't win there, it won't matter that he stole Ohio.
 
2012-11-04 06:26:58 PM
""And there's this striking discrepancy between national polls - which tend to be done, by and large, by older, more-seasoned polling firms - and state polls - a number of which are done by less-established uppity firms.
 
2012-11-04 06:27:35 PM

guilt by association: I caught a glimpse of CNN the other day at the gym and Virginia was light red (i.e. "leaning Romney") on their map.


You should've seen liberal NBC and their commie tripe this morning.

David Gregory asked the following questions to some random Obama campaign guy
1) The economy is still in trouble *plays clip of Romney pointing out unemployment*. What is Obama going to do?
2) Is Obama willing to work with Congress? He has been quite partisan during his first term.
3) Is the Obama administration hiding something about how they screwed up security in Libya causing the death of an ambassador?
 
2012-11-04 06:27:59 PM
Wallace: 2/3 of the country thinks we're on the wrong track.

This is what happens when you swallow your own narrative.

Puzzled Brit Hume is puzzled. And it's funny.
 
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