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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   Red Cross to Mitt Romney campaign: "Uh, thanks, but we don't actually need all of this stuff you just dumped at our doorstep"   (cincinnati.com) divider line 207
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2012-11-04 06:10:05 PM
Why do we care that a bunch of wealthy people lost their 2nd or 3rd home in a strong windstorm? I mean, Coastal NJ is nothing like New Orleans, you can't even buy a crap shack on the shore for less the $750K or rent one during the summer for less than $5K a week (5K would be cheap) so again, why are we donating items or money to people who have this stuff or even better stuff. Maybe if Romney would send the property owners 100K checks to cover their rental income losts for next year, that might be useful, but jars or peanut butter or mash potato mix, they probably wouldn't eat that crap in the first place.
 
2012-11-04 06:10:06 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: But as showboating goes, it's very effective for Romney.


Not really. According to the reports I heard this morning on the radio, people's response to Romney's response to Sandy has been overwhelmingly negative. Their response to Obama's response has been overwhelmingly positive. Now, natural disaster situations favor the sitting president, but Obama (and the Federal government) did such a good job that he's now got Chris Christie singing his praises.
 
2012-11-04 06:10:27 PM

randomjsa: This is the first time I have EVER seen people actually whining and complaining about relief supplies being sent to a disaster area.

Once again, F the Red Cross, they are not the "authority" on disaster relief and there's a reason they want money and blood (which they sell)... Because as with so many disasters they will hold out their collection plate for "X Disaster" and then spend that money however they damn well please, including paying their execs six figure salaries.

Seriously, F the Red Cross.

And after that, F all the hate mongering idiots who are so hung up on their political BS that they're actually sneering at food and water and other essentials being donated to help a disaster. You should be praising anyone who donates anything period. It will get to somebody who needs it and if the Red Cross doesn't want it then I assure there are plenty of other people out there that would be glad to have it.

And oh by the way weren't you the same lot going on about how the relief supplies were only going to battleground states? Line up over there and take it back because this showed up in New Jersey.


Romney footing the bill so that his charity drive will have appeared to fill the truck he got so that his full truck of donations looks better for him in the papers doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with the red cross.
 
2012-11-04 06:10:53 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: They would rather have donations of money and blood

How about blood money, do they accept that?


I think the Romney campaign accepts blood diamonds, so there's that.

/Got nothing. Felt like sharing.
 
2012-11-04 06:11:01 PM
Yeah... after four days without power and no Red Cross or FEMA presence the folks on Staten Island (and the Rockaways and Redhook) were screaming into every news camera they could find that they needed all the crap in that bus...
 
2012-11-04 06:11:04 PM

Lost Thought 00: Waldo Pepper: If only 1 or 2 families benefited from anything dropped off, it is worth it.

What if people suffered due to the distractions from providing actual relief?


doubtful
 
2012-11-04 06:11:57 PM
How soon until donors start pulling $$$ from Red Cross because of herp derp?
 
2012-11-04 06:12:33 PM

dahmers love zombie: Waldo Pepper: If only 1 or 2 families benefited from anything dropped off, it is worth it.

I always wondered if you were troll or real. Thanks for clearing that up in one sentence.


Must be hard and sad going through life spending time wondering about people and post on Fark
 
2012-11-04 06:16:27 PM

mrshowrules: Because People in power are Stupid: But as showboating goes, it's very effective for Romney.

It blew up in his face from the perspective. Any idiot was that was impressed by this was voting for him anyways.


I suspect he gained a few votes. In general, anything that gets you press gets you a few votes, and the press has been repeating this crap about him and his stupid canned food drive constantly. Now, if you do something horrible, it often outweighs the name recognition, but I think most people won't look at this as bad, even if he's doing it wrong and almost certainly milking it for votes. Certainly, compare to the votes he would have gained had he NOT held stupid relief events, which would have been zero, he did better.

On the other hand, I don't think he gained any significant number of votes. Certainly not like Obama, who has (IMO) come out of this looking VERY Presidential (and not in the "it's easy to look confident at the debates when you're lying shamelessly way Romney has).
 
2012-11-04 06:20:43 PM

Bontesla: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 400x286]


There is a term for that: Noblesse oblige.

Unfortunately, modern conservatives really don't understand conservatism as a political ideology.
 
2012-11-04 06:21:38 PM

randomjsa: This is the first time I have EVER seen people actually whining and complaining about relief supplies being sent to a disaster area.

Once again, F the Red Cross, they are not the "authority" on disaster relief and there's a reason they want money and blood (which they sell)... Because as with so many disasters they will hold out their collection plate for "X Disaster" and then spend that money however they damn well please, including paying their execs six figure salaries.

Seriously, F the Red Cross.

And after that, F all the hate mongering idiots who are so hung up on their political BS that they're actually sneering at food and water and other essentials being donated to help a disaster. You should be praising anyone who donates anything period. It will get to somebody who needs it and if the Red Cross doesn't want it then I assure there are plenty of other people out there that would be glad to have it.

And oh by the way weren't you the same lot going on about how the relief supplies were only going to battleground states? Line up over there and take it back because this showed up in New Jersey.


They didn't whine about anything. They merely stated that they prefer donations of money and blood, but do not refuse any donations, this blogger is the one making a big deal out of it.

On another note, the Red Cross is not the only agency working on relief efforts. If the Romney camp organized with one of the many NJ volunteer efforts they could have trucked that stuff right to the shore and organizations there would have gladly taken the items to be dispersed. I know of at least half a dozen people with trucks that make 2-3 trips a day with local donations and all items are gladly accepted.

If anyone is in the south Jersey area and wants to know of a drop off location I can probably find one for you, my wife is on the board of a local non-profit in her spare time and we've been coordinating local relief efforts and donations since the day of the storm.
 
2012-11-04 06:31:36 PM
It shows that Romney is disorganized and clueless but not completely heartless. Pretty much what we all suspected.
 
2012-11-04 06:36:04 PM

propasaurus: Y'know, it would have been extraordinarily easy for the Romney campaign to have turned this into a huge gain. They could've said: 'In the spirit of bipartisan cooperation in this time of national tragedy, we must all come together and set aside politics for the good of all. Therefore, we are suspending our ad buys for this week and donating that money instead to the Red Cross.'
With as much money as Romney has been raking in, it would've been a blip in their ad budget. Hell, they could've quickly cut a new ad saying that, placed it instead of their usual ads, still kept the ad buys in place, they'd barely feel a pinch in their ad budget and it would've put them ahead of the game.

But, try getting Romney to let go of a dollar to benefit someone else.


To be fair, that could be construed as misusing campaign funds - donors contributed money to his election campaign, not to hurricane relief. It might even be illegal to redirect donations in that way.

I'm not sure there was much Romney could do but suspend his campaign for a few days. Using his own money to make a large, public donation to the relief effort would certainly have been seen as pandering. He could have made a large, private donation that would later be "leaked" to the press, but pulling that off would have required a competent capaign staff. The botched canned food drive was probably the best gesture his inept campaign could come up.
 
2012-11-04 06:36:07 PM
Jesus titty farking christ these people are disorganized and stupid.

Watch them blame the red cross, call it a liberal conspiracy.
 
2012-11-04 06:38:00 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: propasaurus: Y'know, it would have been extraordinarily easy for the Romney campaign to have turned this into a huge gain. They could've said: 'In the spirit of bipartisan cooperation in this time of national tragedy, we must all come together and set aside politics for the good of all. Therefore, we are suspending our ad buys for this week and donating that money instead to the Red Cross.'
With as much money as Romney has been raking in, it would've been a blip in their ad budget. Hell, they could've quickly cut a new ad saying that, placed it instead of their usual ads, still kept the ad buys in place, they'd barely feel a pinch in their ad budget and it would've put them ahead of the game.

But, try getting Romney to let go of a dollar to benefit someone else.

To be fair, that could be construed as misusing campaign funds - donors contributed money to his election campaign, not to hurricane relief. It might even be illegal to redirect donations in that way.

I'm not sure there was much Romney could do but suspend his campaign for a few days. Using his own money to make a large, public donation to the relief effort would certainly have been seen as pandering. He could have made a large, private donation that would later be "leaked" to the press, but pulling that off would have required a competent capaign staff. The botched canned food drive was probably the best gesture his inept campaign could come up.


He could have taken it as a deduction on his taxes.
 
2012-11-04 06:38:32 PM

Vodka Zombie: Mitt Romney is not a smart or considerate man.


And he was the best the Republicans could offer up this year.
 
2012-11-04 06:40:33 PM
The Red Cross website also promotes financial contributions and discourages donations of supplies saying the latter "impedes the valuable resources of money, time and personnel."

Did no one on his staff bother to check their web site? Or maybe call and ask ahead of time?


wotthefark: Jesus titty farking christ these people are disorganized and stupid.

Watch them blame the red cross, call it a liberal conspiracy.


Yup. The Red Cross is gonna get the soup kitchen treatment.
 
2012-11-04 06:41:08 PM

plewis: It shows that Romney is disorganized and clueless but not completely heartless. Pretty much what we all suspected.


Having lots of props around makes for a better photo op than asking supporters for donations.
 
2012-11-04 06:41:36 PM

dantheman195: Why do we care that a bunch of wealthy people lost their 2nd or 3rd home in a strong windstorm? I mean, Coastal NJ is nothing like New Orleans, you can't even buy a crap shack on the shore for less the $750K or rent one during the summer for less than $5K a week (5K would be cheap) so again, why are we donating items or money to people who have this stuff or even better stuff. Maybe if Romney would send the property owners 100K checks to cover their rental income losts for next year, that might be useful, but jars or peanut butter or mash potato mix, they probably wouldn't eat that crap in the first place.


I have friends who make very little money working for a non profit who lost their office and many lost all their belongings in their cheap as hell off season rentals. So FU. I actually hope you're trolling.
 
2012-11-04 06:41:38 PM

Fart_Machine: Smeggy Smurf: The Red Cross can't steal material goods and enrich the head pukes. That's why they want money instead of consumables and blankets.

Fark the Red Cross.

Someone already posted a link above explaining why you're a dumbass.


Hey, they've got a talking point, they're gonna run with it.
 
2012-11-04 06:42:07 PM

randomjsa: This is the first time I have EVER seen people actually whining and complaining about relief supplies being sent to a disaster area.

Once again, F the Red Cross, they are not the "authority" on disaster relief and there's a reason they want money and blood (which they sell)... Because as with so many disasters they will hold out their collection plate for "X Disaster" and then spend that money however they damn well please, including paying their execs six figure salaries.

Seriously, F the Red Cross.

And after that, F all the hate mongering idiots who are so hung up on their political BS that they're actually sneering at food and water and other essentials being donated to help a disaster. You should be praising anyone who donates anything period. It will get to somebody who needs it and if the Red Cross doesn't want it then I assure there are plenty of other people out there that would be glad to have it.

And oh by the way weren't you the same lot going on about how the relief supplies were only going to battleground states? Line up over there and take it back because this showed up in New Jersey.


All this anger is misdirected. You should be angry with the reactionary propagandists who have lied to you and sucked you into the bullshiat self-delusion of so-called "conservatism". That's the source of your rage and confusion - stupid, right wing thinking.
You need to get your mind right, and clean all that neocon trash out of it.
 
2012-11-04 06:42:54 PM
Water bottles, cans, flashlights - the Secret Service calls those projectiles and they're not allowed anywhere near a presidential candidate at normal rallies.

I'd laugh my ass off if someone hucked a flashlight at Romney.
 
2012-11-04 06:44:10 PM

AbbeySomeone: Because People in power are Stupid: But as showboating goes, it's very effective for Romney.

Be kind. He has no clue how one is supposed to show compassion or help.
He should have taken all that crap to the foodbank.


Well, it's not crap. Romney paid good money for that canned spinach. But, I agree with your common sense. If Romney does charity, it's all about what Romney thinks he gains.

Unlike that cynical Romney, here in the South Bay we had the CEO of Cisco showing how a business guy can contribute to, not hinder relief efforts. Chambers is helping a drive that aims to raise $12.4 million and distribute 2 million pounds of food in Santa Clara County. Unlike Romney, he's not alone. The food bank drive is actively supported by San Francisco 49er players, And here is a link Link
 
2012-11-04 06:44:32 PM
Romney actually held a second photo op donating blood, but all they got was hydraulic fluid.
 
2012-11-04 06:46:30 PM

plewis: It shows that Romney is disorganized and clueless but not completely heartless. Pretty much what we all suspected.


What about this implies he's anything but heartless? He got a photo-op out of this and still managed to make it useless to the charity involved. Like Ryan scrubbing already washed pans at a soup kitchen after everyone has already left.
 
2012-11-04 06:50:10 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: propasaurus: Y'know, it would have been extraordinarily easy for the Romney campaign to have turned this into a huge gain. They could've said: 'In the spirit of bipartisan cooperation in this time of national tragedy, we must all come together and set aside politics for the good of all. Therefore, we are suspending our ad buys for this week and donating that money instead to the Red Cross.'
With as much money as Romney has been raking in, it would've been a blip in their ad budget. Hell, they could've quickly cut a new ad saying that, placed it instead of their usual ads, still kept the ad buys in place, they'd barely feel a pinch in their ad budget and it would've put them ahead of the game.

But, try getting Romney to let go of a dollar to benefit someone else.

To be fair, that could be construed as misusing campaign funds - donors contributed money to his election campaign, not to hurricane relief. It might even be illegal to redirect donations in that way.

I'm not sure there was much Romney could do but suspend his campaign for a few days. Using his own money to make a large, public donation to the relief effort would certainly have been seen as pandering. He could have made a large, private donation that would later be "leaked" to the press, but pulling that off would have required a competent capaign staff. The botched canned food drive was probably the best gesture his inept campaign could come up.


He could have organized a blood drive. Something the red cross specifically said they needed. Many people who are eligible do not give blood, and having a presidental candidate get out there, and donate blood and encourage people to do so might have actually HELPED. Maybe during the campaign rallies he could have the red cross set up donation tents (etc), and have a photo-op of him and his family donating.
 
2012-11-04 06:51:35 PM
Uh oh, Red Cross. Now the Tea Party is going to try and drive the Red Cross out of business. I hope you're happy.
 
2012-11-04 06:54:03 PM

GAT_00: But I was told Mitt Romney cared so much about helping people.


Yeah, just like how a Tea Partier I know (who has two kids by two different women, is on food stamps, lives with his rich parents, and hates the government, but that's another story) who said that Rush Limbaugh has a 'documented' 99.7% accuracy. Normally, I wouldn't have bothered with it, but I was particularly rankled by the word 'documented' so after MUCH pressing, he finally sent me to the site where it was documented.

It was RushLimbaugh.com
 
2012-11-04 06:55:20 PM

Gosling: Uh oh, Red Cross. Now the Tea Party is going to try and drive the Red Cross out of business. I hope you're happy.


Wait til they find out about the Red Crescent!
 
2012-11-04 06:56:14 PM

Lorelle: How about giving some of that stuff to the 170 Sensata Technologies employees who will be laid off next month because Bain Capital is sending their jobs to China??


+ eleventy
 
2012-11-04 06:57:04 PM

propasaurus: Fart_Machine: Smeggy Smurf: The Red Cross can't steal material goods and enrich the head pukes. That's why they want money instead of consumables and blankets.

Fark the Red Cross.

Someone already posted a link above explaining why you're a dumbass.

Hey, they've got a talking point, they're gonna run with it.


" food providers can get what they need for "pennies on the dollar." She estimates that they pay about 10 cents a pound for food that would cost you $2 per pound retail. You'd be doing dramatically more good, in basic dollars and cents terms, by eating that tuna yourself and forking over a check for half the price of a single can of Chicken of the Sea."

Is it really that hard to understand???

"Beyond the economies of scale are the overhead costs. Charities are naturally reluctant to turn down donations for fear of alienating supporters or demoralizing well-wishers, but the reality is that dealing with sporadic surges of cans is a logistical headache. A nationwide network of food banks called Feeding America gingerly notes on its website that "a hastily organized local food drive can actually put more strain on your local food bank than you imagine." Food dropped off by well-meaning citizens needs to be carefully inspected and sorted. A personal check, by contrast, can be used to order what's needed without placing extra burdens on the staff."

Romney is a supposed "successful business man". Seriously, if you can't grasp economies of scale and overhead costs then you are not a business man and Mitt Romney isn't one. He's an opportunist vulture.
 
2012-11-04 06:59:19 PM

Smeggy Smurf: The Red Cross can't steal material goods and enrich the head pukes. That's why they want money instead of consumables and blankets.

Fark the Red Cross.


jersey here. wasting valuable cell battery time with this, but red cross and salvation army are here, helping and feeding. no one else. they may be top heavy, but they walk the walk. I'm now proud to have donated to RC in the past, and will not hesitate to support SA in the future. no preaching, just help.
 
2012-11-04 07:01:02 PM

Katie98_KT: He could have organized a blood drive. Something the red cross specifically said they needed. Many people who are eligible do not give blood, and having a presidental candidate get out there, and donate blood and encourage people to do so might have actually HELPED. Maybe during the campaign rallies he could have the red cross set up donation tents (etc), and have a photo-op of him and his family donating.


That's actually an excellent idea. If he had a competent campaign staff someone might have thought of it.
 
2012-11-04 07:02:09 PM

spelletrader: They didn't whine about anything. They merely stated that they prefer donations of money and blood, but do not refuse any donations, this blogger is the one making a big deal out of it.

On another note, the Red Cross is not the only agency working on relief efforts. If the Romney camp organized with one of the many NJ volunteer efforts they could have trucked that stuff right to the shore and organizations there would have gladly taken the items to be dispersed. I know of at least half a dozen people with trucks that make 2-3 trips a day with local donations and all items are gladly accepted.

If anyone is in the south Jersey area and wants to know of a drop off location I can probably find one for you, my wife is on the board of a local non-profit in her spare time and we've been coordinating local relief efforts and donations since the day of the storm.


This is the second or third complaint I've heard centered around the fact that "B-But the Red Cross doesn't want things like that...!"

Who gives a damn? This is nothing but obsessive compulsive arseholery if I may create a new phrase. For all the complaining that liberals do about Republicans going in to knee jerk reaction mode to oppose everything Obama does... They sure seem keen on finding a way to complain about relief supplies being sent to a storm area. What, do they seriously think Obama popped up there only out of the goodness of his heart and never once considered the implications of how he would look this close to the election while evil Romney only did the relief supplies as a shameless photo op?

Also as stated here on Fark we had the "Well he's only sending it to battleground states!", scraping for an excuse to hate monger on Romney. As stated, this showed up in NJ. Anyone think Romney is going to win NJ? Anyone?
 
2012-11-04 07:03:21 PM
Totally buried the lede:

the Romney campaign spent $5,000 in a local Wal-Mart store Monday night because it feared people wouldn't bring enough

And yet they espouse unraveling the safety net to rely on privatization and charity, while actively being aware it will be insufficient. I have to make conscious efforts to think they aren't REALLY trying to kill off a swath of the public -- but I can't really believe what I have to tell myself.
 
2012-11-04 07:04:05 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Katie98_KT: He could have organized a blood drive. Something the red cross specifically said they needed. Many people who are eligible do not give blood, and having a presidental candidate get out there, and donate blood and encourage people to do so might have actually HELPED. Maybe during the campaign rallies he could have the red cross set up donation tents (etc), and have a photo-op of him and his family donating.

That's actually an excellent idea. If he had a competent campaign staff someone might have thought of it.


We already have those it's called the military.
 
2012-11-04 07:09:42 PM

randomjsa: spelletrader: They didn't whine about anything. They merely stated that they prefer donations of money and blood, but do not refuse any donations, this blogger is the one making a big deal out of it.

On another note, the Red Cross is not the only agency working on relief efforts. If the Romney camp organized with one of the many NJ volunteer efforts they could have trucked that stuff right to the shore and organizations there would have gladly taken the items to be dispersed. I know of at least half a dozen people with trucks that make 2-3 trips a day with local donations and all items are gladly accepted.

If anyone is in the south Jersey area and wants to know of a drop off location I can probably find one for you, my wife is on the board of a local non-profit in her spare time and we've been coordinating local relief efforts and donations since the day of the storm.

This is the second or third complaint I've heard centered around the fact that "B-But the Red Cross doesn't want things like that...!"

Who gives a damn? This is nothing but obsessive compulsive arseholery if I may create a new phrase. For all the complaining that liberals do about Republicans going in to knee jerk reaction mode to oppose everything Obama does... They sure seem keen on finding a way to complain about relief supplies being sent to a storm area. What, do they seriously think Obama popped up there only out of the goodness of his heart and never once considered the implications of how he would look this close to the election while evil Romney only did the relief supplies as a shameless photo op?

Also as stated here on Fark we had the "Well he's only sending it to battleground states!", scraping for an excuse to hate monger on Romney. As stated, this showed up in NJ. Anyone think Romney is going to win NJ? Anyone?


What's the point of blaming every human being that Mitt Romney attempts to interact with for the failure of those interactions? He is the common factor of failure here, and is obviously the problem. He is a failed human being, and should not be president of the local homeowner's association, let alone the United States - and, luckily, he won't be.
 
2012-11-04 07:10:06 PM

randomjsa: spelletrader: They didn't whine about anything. They merely stated that they prefer donations of money and blood, but do not refuse any donations, this blogger is the one making a big deal out of it.

On another note, the Red Cross is not the only agency working on relief efforts. If the Romney camp organized with one of the many NJ volunteer efforts they could have trucked that stuff right to the shore and organizations there would have gladly taken the items to be dispersed. I know of at least half a dozen people with trucks that make 2-3 trips a day with local donations and all items are gladly accepted.

If anyone is in the south Jersey area and wants to know of a drop off location I can probably find one for you, my wife is on the board of a local non-profit in her spare time and we've been coordinating local relief efforts and donations since the day of the storm.

This is the second or third complaint I've heard centered around the fact that "B-But the Red Cross doesn't want things like that...!"

Who gives a damn? This is nothing but obsessive compulsive arseholery if I may create a new phrase. For all the complaining that liberals do about Republicans going in to knee jerk reaction mode to oppose everything Obama does... They sure seem keen on finding a way to complain about relief supplies being sent to a storm area. What, do they seriously think Obama popped up there only out of the goodness of his heart and never once considered the implications of how he would look this close to the election while evil Romney only did the relief supplies as a shameless photo op?

Also as stated here on Fark we had the "Well he's only sending it to battleground states!", scraping for an excuse to hate monger on Romney. As stated, this showed up in NJ. Anyone think Romney is going to win NJ? Anyone?


It's not a complaint, it's a suggestion. There are other charities, quit it with the idiotic faux outrage you blithering dipshiat.
 
2012-11-04 07:10:28 PM

randomjsa: spelletrader: They didn't whine about anything. They merely stated that they prefer donations of money and blood, but do not refuse any donations, this blogger is the one making a big deal out of it.

On another note, the Red Cross is not the only agency working on relief efforts. If the Romney camp organized with one of the many NJ volunteer efforts they could have trucked that stuff right to the shore and organizations there would have gladly taken the items to be dispersed. I know of at least half a dozen people with trucks that make 2-3 trips a day with local donations and all items are gladly accepted.

If anyone is in the south Jersey area and wants to know of a drop off location I can probably find one for you, my wife is on the board of a local non-profit in her spare time and we've been coordinating local relief efforts and donations since the day of the storm.

This is the second or third complaint I've heard centered around the fact that "B-But the Red Cross doesn't want things like that...!"

Who gives a damn? This is nothing but obsessive compulsive arseholery if I may create a new phrase. For all the complaining that liberals do about Republicans going in to knee jerk reaction mode to oppose everything Obama does... They sure seem keen on finding a way to complain about relief supplies being sent to a storm area. What, do they seriously think Obama popped up there only out of the goodness of his heart and never once considered the implications of how he would look this close to the election while evil Romney only did the relief supplies as a shameless photo op?

Also as stated here on Fark we had the "Well he's only sending it to battleground states!", scraping for an excuse to hate monger on Romney. As stated, this showed up in NJ. Anyone think Romney is going to win NJ? Anyone?


If he took the $5000 his campaign spent at Wal-mart the Red-Cross could have gotten food pennies on the dollar and no one would have to inspect it thus cutting costs even further.

The president went there to survey the damage and to see where and how FEMA money could be used in an efficient way. It's called doing his job. Look at it as a performance evaluation.

But government is bad and inefficient right???
 
2012-11-04 07:16:15 PM

wotthefark: Romney is a supposed "successful business man". Seriously, if you can't grasp economies of scale and overhead costs then you are not a business man and Mitt Romney isn't one. He's an opportunist vulture.


Hey, that's not fair at all. Now, give Romney a chance to dismantle the Red Cross, leaving it bankrupt, and he'd ace it!
 
2012-11-04 07:17:58 PM

Waldo Pepper: If only 1 or 2 families benefited from anything dropped off, it is worth it.


As compared to the several dozen families that would have benefited if he had just donated the money instead of using this tragedy as a chance for grandstanding.

farking opportunity cost, how does it work?
 
2012-11-04 07:19:43 PM

Daveism: this is why professional emergency management is important, people... knowing how to actually help, how to manage volunteers, donations and entire programs is a small branch of a complicated *system*, one that a person who has stated that he wants to drastically reduce the role of FEMA has no idea of. Craig Fugate has done an amazing job of structuring FEMA post-Katrina/post-Brownie, and has dramatically raised the standards and practices of E.M. Unfortunately, a Romney presidency would probably replace him with a clown loke brown result in open-ended contracts with Halliburton and Xe...

 
2012-11-04 07:26:16 PM

Lorelle: How about giving some of that stuff to the 170 Sensata Technologies employees who will be laid off next month because Bain Capital is sending their jobs to China??

 
2012-11-04 07:30:53 PM
Homeless, out of food? Here's a tin of beans and a N0bama t shirt. Now gather your staff and disperse it to people with no pot to cook in and no gas to cook with. Enjoy your tin of beans.
 
2012-11-04 07:35:43 PM

wotthefark: He could have taken it as a deduction on his taxes.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH *snort* HAHAHAHAA!!! Taxes?
Does anyone believe that clown pays taxes?
 
2012-11-04 07:36:48 PM

dahmers love zombie: Waldo Pepper: If only 1 or 2 families benefited from anything dropped off, it is worth it.

I always wondered if you were troll or real. Thanks for clearing that up in one sentence.


I don't get it. That's a real sentiment. Just like 'I'm doing the Lord's work by giving away my expired unwanteds' is a real sentiment. Romney was playing to the churchy folks, not trying to enlighten people. Stuff like that works, and many people will feel the same way as Waldo in the end.

Since Rmoney is a bishop who is used to doing the feudal lord 'i have control over this and this is what you'll get from my stores for coming to me in your time need' crap, maybe this is the one time he was 'sincere' and doing shiat the only way he knew how to do it, because it's how he's always done it. And that's even with the fake volunteers loading goods they didn't buy, pretending that they did.

/Salvation Army needs more love
//RC gets no money from me
///knows exactly why people still insist on giving canned goods no matter how often they're told not to
 
2012-11-04 07:37:49 PM

dantheman195: Why do we care that a bunch of wealthy people lost their 2nd or 3rd home in a strong windstorm? I mean, Coastal NJ is nothing like New Orleans, you can't even buy a crap shack on the shore for less the $750K or rent one during the summer for less than $5K a week (5K would be cheap) so again, why are we donating items or money to people who have this stuff or even better stuff. Maybe if Romney would send the property owners 100K checks to cover their rental income losts for next year, that might be useful, but jars or peanut butter or mash potato mix, they probably wouldn't eat that crap in the first place.


.. and that's the other thing.. ;)
 
2012-11-04 07:39:31 PM

randomjsa: Seriously, F the Red Cross.


Are you on Staten Island?
 
2012-11-04 07:44:36 PM
The only one I've seen publicly complain about the Red Cross on Staten Island is the borough President, who happens to be a Republican, and everyone parroting his words back. Obama recommended donating to the Red Cross. Is it possible politics is at play here?
 
2012-11-04 07:48:33 PM
Everyone who has ever had the Red Cross ask for donations due to a disaster in your area know they say "we prefer money and blood over canned food, clothes, etc". After our various disasters (tornadoes, floods, hurricanes), the local RC actually asked the news media to tell the public "please do not send us any more clothing", as people were emptying their closets of unwanted clothes and dumping everything at donation centers. That absorbed relief workers to sort the clothes who could have been better used delivering food & water to people in need, or helping them find shelter, etc.

Romney could have asked "instead of donating to my campaign tonight, write your checks to the RC or give blood" and then backed his words up with his own actions. I'm sure he could spare a $10,000 check to the RC and hey, it's tax deductible too.

In typical Romney fashion though, he asks for food and clothing, then dumps it on the one relief agency that doesn't need it, just to make a PR statement.
 
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