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2012-11-04 11:46:16 AM  
When I was in high school I had an English teacher who, rumor has it, appeared in Juggs or Swank or some such porno mag years previous. Back then it never got outside the realm of rumor, because unless you had a voluminous collection of spank rag back issues, how could you prove it?
These days, the damn internet is f*cking with a person's ability to have done one stupid thing in their 20s and it's sad.
 
2012-11-04 11:46:35 AM  
She's also got a couple of videos on xhamster.com

Just put Tiffany Six in the search.
 
2012-11-04 11:48:15 AM  
For fark's sake, they should give this lady a break. It was years ago, she did what she had to do to pay bills. If she was a good teacher who was effective in teaching her students, that's so much more important. This kind of Scarlet Letter crap is starting to piss me off.
 
2012-11-04 11:49:54 AM  

poe_zlaw: Anyone looking for  more information on this wonderful lady?


I'll be darned. There is something out there for people interested in seeing "getting boned by a red rectangle" pron.
 
2012-11-04 11:50:33 AM  

Weaver95: Fear_and_Loathing: Weaver95: Hearing or not, the game is rigged when one mistake from your past can completely destroy your entire future career. you were stupid when you were in your 20s and you clean up your act, get focused and start pulling things together in your 30's and BAM! what you did 10 years ago shows up and wipes it all out forever.

I don't disagree, but she took a job under conditions.  She didn't follow the standards.  Now she is in trouble.  Personally, my kids teacher was a Chippendale, not quite the same, but he was upfont when he got his job.  He is well liked and a great teacher.

so...you are saying that you have to follow the standards of a job before you are even considering taking that job? if i'm say...23-ish. I have no idea what I'm gonna be doing when i'm in my 30's...i'm bouncing around, I go out one night and suddenly...a wild orgy breaks out! naked chicks everywhere, camera phones are hanging out all over the place...and wouldn't ya know it, I get laid several times that night. Fast forward a decade. i'm now 33-ish and i've given up my party lifestyle. I got married, kid on the way and I want to move up in the world and live a quiet suburban lifestyle. But I can't do that now, can I? because something I did when I was drunk/horny and 23 showed up when someone did a background check on me. So no cushy job for me, no promotions...i'm stuck in a lower paying job and forever barred from 'respectable' employment. I violated a morality clause for a job that I had NO IDEA i'd ever apply for when I was 23-ish. No options, no recourse...its just how it goes.

so where do you think all the rage from that is gonna end up?


Weaver is actuality right on this one. Personally I think moral turpitude needs to be struck out of contract language. Community standards ate increasingly hard to define. Especially when people equate them with 1950s sit com community standards that never existed in real life.

You pay me money to do a job. What I do with that money outside of the job is my business. Judge me on my actions while I am at work and let me do as I please elsewhere.
 
2012-11-04 11:50:44 AM  
FWIW, this isn't the first thread we've had about Ms. Halas. This story's been going on for a while it seems. Unless there's another Stacie Halas working as a teacher in Oxnard who previously did porn under the name "Tiffany Six."
 
2012-11-04 11:51:13 AM  
School Board jealous cause they can't be in porn too.
 
2012-11-04 11:52:14 AM  
In the field of repressed sexuality the US could give the Vatican a run for its money.
 
2012-11-04 11:53:24 AM  
Know thyself. Thales

Then act accordingly.
 
2012-11-04 11:53:30 AM  
Meh. the future Mrs. titwrench did all that stuff this morning and she is still an upstanding member of society.
 
2012-11-04 11:54:05 AM  
I'm not sure why so many people here are assuming her porn career was a mistake or that she forced into it to pay her bills. I don't see anything in the article that suggests any of that.
 
2012-11-04 11:54:40 AM  
This is so comedic.

Gal lies about her prior life in porn, takes a job with a morality clause, then gets outed and fired.

Just don't lie in the first place.

Or, take a job that doesn't have a morality clause that includes your past prior to the job.
 
2012-11-04 11:54:48 AM  

Nick Nostril: Still wondering which will occur first:

1) Society learns to keep their cameras/cell phones off when nekkid/having sex/drunk/etc after seeing the one billionth example of this story

2) Idiocracy attains 100% documentary status


2, most definitely 2.
 
2012-11-04 11:56:28 AM  
OK, I get the Nanny logic of if she engages in activity that is frowned upon IRL, away from work, it could reflect on her integrity and make her unsuitable for the job.

Now, just apply the same logic to your HYPOCRITICAL, CRIMINAL, SOCIOPATHIC, PARTISAN POLITICIANS.
We should be hanging them.

/Thank you for your kind attention
 
2012-11-04 11:57:11 AM  
Wow how fast we forget Ms.Tiffany Old News is Old.
 
2012-11-04 11:59:59 AM  
cdn.newsoxy.com

Somebody brought more than just an apple for the teacher?
 
2012-11-04 12:01:17 PM  

Weaver95: Fear_and_Loathing: Most state lic. and local contracts, when you deal with children, have a "Moral Turpitude" clause. She will lose.

so one mistake early on can destroy your career years later...? seems a bit harsh.


On one hand, who cares, porn is everywhere anyhow, etc.

On the other hand, could potentially fall under submitting a falsified CV to leave it off when applying to a job where it could potentially become relevant (because parents will try to fark over a school if they find out about it, parents being farking retards at the best of times).

Basically, if it was listed with her previous employment when she applied for the job there's no problem. If it wasn't, there are potentially valid grounds to terminate her employment. Albeit not sensible grounds, but valid ones.

//Whether "maintaining morality" clauses in an employment contract are valid is a matter of some debate in the first place, and they certainly could not legally apply to something outside the time frame of the contract unless my knowledge of contract law is way off base. Maybe it's more of a "I agree by signing that I don't violate any of the job qualifications" bit and one of them explicitly names porn?
 
2012-11-04 12:01:34 PM  
I guarantee she'll never have trouble getting both parents to parent-teacher meetings.
 
2012-11-04 12:02:26 PM  

eas81: Wow how fast we forget Ms.Tiffany Old News is Old.


This subject covers two things we really like here on Fark:

Female teacher having sex
Female teacher having sex on film that we can watch.

Repeats are always welcome.
 
2012-11-04 12:03:09 PM  
I think there needs to be some slack cut in this case. The morally perfect, bland innoffensive standard we hold teachers too is far more than we hold our politicians to, or many cases clergy.

Another thing, with this being California, it's a sad case when the teacher that did porn for a few months is readily fired, while the pedophile teacher that allegedly fed elementary students his semen on a cookie got a $40,000 pay off to leave because union rules made him so damn hard to fire
 
2012-11-04 12:05:48 PM  

Toy_Cop: Porn stars are mentally unstable. We don't need them teaching kids anything.


I bet you can teach kids about making blanket statements that stereotype a group of people with no evidence to back it up.

I'll be a little gastapo for the purposes of showing how silly this can get.
This calls for a full investigation. First I need the name of the individual(s) who found out about this porn and identified it as her to me made public, Are they part of the schools administration and if so why were they watching porn? I demand their removal.. and also the removal of any children from the homes of any adults that have viewed porn while they had children..
Lets see how far the witch hunt can go!

This is like the crack addict complaining about the drug house being next door.
 
2012-11-04 12:06:22 PM  
The funny thing is, this is not the first former porn star to be a teacher(and get busted for it).
Uh, if you've done porn and want to switch careers, perhaps you might want to avoid teaching children. There's so many other careers out there that doesn't involve farking.
 
2012-11-04 12:06:34 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: FriarReb98: Weaver95: so one mistake early on can destroy your career years later...? seems a bit harsh.

It's all due to the whole "black or white, never gray" mentality of people out there. People want things to be one or the other, they get confused with maybes and half-truths. It's also why political parties are getting so damned extreme.

It isn't a grey area.  She got a Lic. and a contract with requirements, lied when asked about her past, then got removed for cause.  The fact that she is having a hearing means the system works.


No it doesn't. Thanks to the teachers union, she can be fired for this but not for failing to educate the children. The truly bad teachers are safe.
 
2012-11-04 12:08:51 PM  

Weaver95: Fear_and_Loathing: Weaver95: Hearing or not, the game is rigged when one mistake from your past can completely destroy your entire future career. you were stupid when you were in your 20s and you clean up your act, get focused and start pulling things together in your 30's and BAM! what you did 10 years ago shows up and wipes it all out forever.

I don't disagree, but she took a job under conditions.  She didn't follow the standards.  Now she is in trouble.  Personally, my kids teacher was a Chippendale, not quite the same, but he was upfont when he got his job.  He is well liked and a great teacher.

so...you are saying that you have to follow the standards of a job before you are even considering taking that job? if i'm say...23-ish. I have no idea what I'm gonna be doing when i'm in my 30's...i'm bouncing around, I go out one night and suddenly...a wild orgy breaks out! naked chicks everywhere, camera phones are hanging out all over the place...and wouldn't ya know it, I get laid several times that night. Fast forward a decade. i'm now 33-ish and i've given up my party lifestyle. I got married, kid on the way and I want to move up in the world and live a quiet suburban lifestyle. But I can't do that now, can I? because something I did when I was drunk/horny and 23 showed up when someone did a background check on me. So no cushy job for me, no promotions...i'm stuck in a lower paying job and forever barred from 'respectable' employment. I violated a morality clause for a job that I had NO IDEA i'd ever apply for when I was 23-ish. No options, no recourse...its just how it goes.

so where do you think all the rage from that is gonna end up?


Don't be drunk/horny and 23.

Simple enough.
 
2012-11-04 12:09:36 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: Weaver95: you are saying that you have to follow the standards
 
Yes.  Pure and simple.  I don't agree with the rules, but she lied.  I don't condone what has happened, but she broke the rules and lied. Lying on a application is fireable. She gets her day.  I think if she is good, she should get her job, while all the male students watch her film career. And giggle.
 
BTW she then accepted a job and lied. So accepted the terms.



I don't list jobs on my resume which are not relevant to the position for which I am applying.

(Former cemetery caretaker. Great for breaking the ice, distracting on an engineer's resume.)
 
2012-11-04 12:11:25 PM  
Honestly the article is so short as to be impossible to make judgement upon. my personal feeling is so long as she ceased the activity prior to becoming a teacher and has not resumed it should not be held against her.
 
2012-11-04 12:12:51 PM  
Just farking perfect!
This gal is supposed to live up to some Christian Taliban standards while there are no, none, not any, absolutely zero prosecutions on Wall Street.

/this is why we cannot have nice things
 
2012-11-04 12:15:56 PM  
What really offends me is the hypocrisy. The very people shunning her are probably some of the same people consuming this kind of material (or their husbands are). They want to enjoy this kind of entertainment in their home, then they will come out and villify the people producing it. At some level I believe it's their own feelings of shame and guilt over their activities that drive them to attack those making it. They don't want to take responsibilities for their actions and are looking for a way to shift blame to others while still portraying themselves as pure and good people who were "ensnared" by these sinners.

Get over it! People have sex, it's perfectly healthy and normal, no reason to feel shame and no reason to fire anyone.
 
2012-11-04 12:19:48 PM  
Science!
 
2012-11-04 12:20:43 PM  

Lsherm: She's really, uh, not attractive.


studman69.jpg
 
2012-11-04 12:21:13 PM  

Endive Wombat: I suspect that she will end up winning, and getting a settlement. "Porn is icky and the kids may find photos and videos of you" is not a reason to fire someone. If she had filmed on school property, or actively promoted her work to the kids, that would be one thing...but she didn't.

Does anyone know if the school district, or union agreements have any morality clauses that she violated?

Also, she filmed this stuff before she became a teacher. I think that this will set an interesting legal precedent as time goes on because of the prevalence of smart phones, web cams, stupid girls, and self shot nude photos ending up online, something is going to give. If legal protections or legal precedents are not set, it would not surprise me if a single nude image shot when you were a dumb teen that ended up on the internet somehow prevented you from getting a job as a teacher as time goes on.

For some reason, in this country we hold teachers to crazy moral standards. Strange times we live in...strange times...


Yes. She signed a contract with a morals clause.
 
2012-11-04 12:21:47 PM  

ElBarto79: What really offends me is the hypocrisy. The very people shunning her are probably some of the same people consuming this kind of material (or their husbands are). They want to enjoy this kind of entertainment in their home, then they will come out and villify the people producing it. At some level I believe it's their own feelings of shame and guilt over their activities that drive them to attack those making it. They don't want to take responsibilities for their actions and are looking for a way to shift blame to others while still portraying themselves as pure and good people who were "ensnared" by these sinners.

Get over it! People have sex, it's perfectly healthy and normal, no reason to feel shame and no reason to fire anyone.


That would be one of yer central pillars of reliousosity.
Give all your responsibility to the majik sky fairy.
Just believe and be forgiven.
 
2012-11-04 12:22:00 PM  

Paris1127: FWIW, this isn't the first thread we've had about Ms. Halas. This story's been going on for a while it seems. Unless there's another Stacie Halas working as a teacher in Oxnard who previously did porn under the name "Tiffany Six."


I don't think there's ANYONE named Stacie Halas who is working as a teacher in Oxnard who previously did porn under the name "Tiffany Six."
 
2012-11-04 12:22:45 PM  
Oh, yea, and exorcise and kill on command.
 
2012-11-04 12:24:38 PM  
We're not gonna evolve too quickly as a species if we don't allow people a chance to make a better life for themselves. Part of being human is making mistakes or doing things that others might not approve of doing. Doesn't make us bad people. Doesn't make us incapable of being good people. It also doesn't prevent us from doing what we gotta do to survive. The sooner we can get over petty shiat like this, the better off we'll all be.
 
2012-11-04 12:26:18 PM  
For all of you claiming "Do not want," here's the deal: her tits are as near to a 10 as you can get, and she takes it in the pooper.

/be srs
 
2012-11-04 12:28:53 PM  

Krieghund: Paris1127: FWIW, this isn't the first thread we've had about Ms. Halas. This story's been going on for a while it seems. Unless there's another Stacie Halas working as a teacher in Oxnard who previously did porn under the name "Tiffany Six."

I don't think there's ANYONE named Stacie Halas who is working as a teacher in Oxnard who previously did porn under the name "Tiffany Six."


Oh, yes there is. This story is about 3 years old, going back to when the porn first surfaced. You can find the porn and you can find local interviews with Stacie - same girl.

Oxnard is an exceptionally conservative community (except for being the hub of male transvestite prostitution on Saturday nights, which is tabu to talk about). At least outwardly, it is.
 
2012-11-04 12:30:33 PM  
Kids today eat way to much junk food. But when a teacher comes along with a banana-advocacy agenda, this is the thanks she gets.
 
2012-11-04 12:31:33 PM  

Weaver95: so where do you think all the rage from that is gonna end up?


Columbine?
 
2012-11-04 12:31:59 PM  
Thanks again religion, for convincing almost everyone on the planet that they have any reason to be ashamed of the very same act that perpetuates our race. For some unfathomable reason.

Do you think maybe the first people who started inserting those clauses into ancient religions when they were inventing them just had tiny dicks or something? Maybe they figured they'd even the playing field for themselves a bit if they made it harder for everyone to enjoy their genitals.
 
2012-11-04 12:32:41 PM  

doglover: I know more than one porn actress personally. One or two actors, too.


I object to the use of the terms, "actor" and "actress" when referring to porn. An actor is someone who portrays some other personage in a fictional film. It may rarely happen that an actor portray himself in fictional circumstances, as sometimes happens in cameo appearances. The essence of "acting", though, is pretending to be someone or in some situation that you are not. Eddie Murphy was acting in "48 Hours" but not in "Raw".

When Tiffany Six is filmed sucking wang and taking it up the arse in a hotel room she is not attempting to portray anything other than Tiffany Six sucking wang and taking it up the arse in a hotel room. She has adopted a stage name, but she is not portraying some fictional personage named "Tiffany Six" any more than a masked bank robber is pretending to be a skier or Max Hardcore is pretending to be a sadistic pervert in a cowboy hat. She falls into the same ill-defined class as the cast of the Jackass videos. They are not actors portraying a crowd of idiots pretending to hurt themselves in fictional scenarios; they are real idiots really hurting themselves in real life.

Now, back in the Behind the Green Door days there tended to be a story to porn and characters to portray and a list of credits, e.g. "John Holmes as Plumber" and "Linda Lovelace as Horny Housewife", but you don't see that any more, or it would be a silly list of items like, "Pete North as Guy with Huge Dong" and "Tiffany Six as Chick Who Gets Porked by Pete". It's true that porn footage is heavily edited to present impossible sex sessions but that has nothing to do with acting. If I filmed you barfing over the balustrade and looped the footage to make it you look like a 1/2 hour puke fountain, it wouldn't make you an actor. You're actually puking. It's also true that the "actresses" are pretending to enjoy the sex and the "actors" may be pretending to enjoy it more than they do, but that scarcely amounts to "acting". If you give a thumbs-up while barfing even though you're hurting inside, no one would say it's enough to call you an "actor" in my Doglover the Vomit Hydrant video.
 
2012-11-04 12:35:57 PM  

Amusement: School Board jealous cause they can't be in porn too.


Have you seen the Hippos and Walrus' on the school board?
 
2012-11-04 12:38:48 PM  
Fear_and_Loathing
Personally, my kids teacher was a Chippendale, not quite the same, but he was upfont when he got his job. He is well liked and a great teacher.

Probably not a problem because he isn't regarded as competition or with jealousy by the catty, judgmental bit.. moms.

With a male stripper, the Twilight moms can have little nice and naughty fantasies about him while schlicking it to 50 Shades of Gray.
A female pornstar will more likely lead to insecurities and comparisons or thoughts about hubby looking up the teacher's old clips and hubby having the naughty thoughts.
 
2012-11-04 12:40:42 PM  

wrenchboy: Amusement: School Board jealous cause they can't be in porn too.

Have you seen the Hippos and Walrus' on the school board?


As a mustachioed walrus who's into porn, I trajectory exception to your comment, sir.

/now bring mah bukket of anal teen nymphos!
 
2012-11-04 12:42:03 PM  
Trajectory exception?

I meant take exception.

Damn these flippers and tiny phone keyboards!
 
2012-11-04 12:43:30 PM  

ShannonKW: doglover: I know more than one porn actress personally. One or two actors, too.

I object to the use of the terms, "actor" and "actress" when referring to porn. An actor is someone who portrays some other personage in a fictional film. It may rarely happen that an actor portray himself in fictional circumstances, as sometimes happens in cameo appearances. The essence of "acting", though, is pretending to be someone or in some situation that you are not. Eddie Murphy was acting in "48 Hours" but not in "Raw".


I object to people who have nothing relevant to add to a discussion and instead try and turn it into an argument over symantics.
 
2012-11-04 12:43:36 PM  
A lot of studman69s on this thread.

Unless she was actively asked if she had ever done porn, then she didn't lie. Current advice on resumes is to not list things irrelevant to the employment you are seeking.

If they specifically asked her about it or related topics, then she didn't lie.
 
2012-11-04 12:43:44 PM  
A one on one teachers / parents conference could be a little awkward.
Dad sitting there with a boner, and mom having thoughts of............
I'll say a threesome.
 
2012-11-04 12:43:58 PM  

titwrench: Meh. the future Mrs. titwrench did all that stuff this morning and she is still an upstanding member of society.


Pics or it didn't happen. Or better video. HD pls.

j/k

I say good for you,we don't care if you teaching science or math.
 
2012-11-04 12:46:43 PM  

fozziewazzi: I'm thinking if this was a guy that did gay porn some of the responses in this thread would be different.


Well that would be digusting !
 
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