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(Business Insider)   Jim Cramer says President Obama will win with 440 electoral votes. Also, "Da Bears"   (businessinsider.com) divider line 108
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2012-11-04 08:48:01 AM

rahpower: czetie: Ah, crap. Cramer is the man who recommended Lehman as a "screaming buy" shortly before it went bankrupt. And that was one of his better picks.

One of the few good ways for an amateur to make fast money in the market is to short whatever Cramer is recommending. Wait for a couple of days for the dumb money that follows his show to bid it up, then bail.

Short a stock, wait for it to get bid up, then cover? That doesn't sound like a very good way to make money. Or, do you mean, wait a few days for it to get bid up, then short?


I don't know. What do you think the word "bail" means in this context?
 
2012-11-04 08:48:49 AM

czetie: rahpower: czetie: Ah, crap. Cramer is the man who recommended Lehman as a "screaming buy" shortly before it went bankrupt. And that was one of his better picks.

One of the few good ways for an amateur to make fast money in the market is to short whatever Cramer is recommending. Wait for a couple of days for the dumb money that follows his show to bid it up, then bail.

Short a stock, wait for it to get bid up, then cover? That doesn't sound like a very good way to make money. Or, do you mean, wait a few days for it to get bid up, then short?

I don't know. What do you think the word "bail" means in this context?


...because personally I think it means "get more coffee before posting again"...
 
2012-11-04 08:48:53 AM

Summoner101: riverwalk barfly: Well, he is obviously full of shiat. But the idea of TX going blue makes me smile. Then reality....*sigh* - I do recall in early 2008 a caller on NPR saying that if Obama got the nomination, North Carolina would vote blue. The panel (Diane Rehm show) laughed it off as impossible. You never know.

North Carolina is substantially more likely to go blue than Texas. Texas' demographics may lead to it going blue eventually, but not in 2012. This is a state that elects Rick Perry.


as a Texan... I'm so so sorry about that.
 
2012-11-04 08:49:06 AM

ManateeGag: wow, that's a lot of glue he's sniffing.


This.

vygramul: 440? Really?

I've taken LSD and not been that delusional.


That. The only people I've seen that delusional have been the Right-tards and that dumbass UnSkewed Polls site.
 
2012-11-04 08:49:43 AM
Cramer got loose? Bring in the Stewart Unit. Cramer'll be toast. Book it Done.
 
2012-11-04 08:50:21 AM

Kibbler: Jim Cramer: the perfect emblem of the river-of-shiat non-entertainment TV world that is 21st century America.


To be fair, he's a lot better than "Bad Girls Club".
 
2012-11-04 08:51:30 AM
I think 440 might be his blood pressure in PSI, and this whole thing is just a misunderstanding.

Then again, he's been proving himself clueless since before the tech bubble crash. Seriously, am I the only one who remembers how completely idiotic "Kudlow and Kramer" was back then? Or how Stewart completely shredded him because it never occurred to Kramer his past interviews could be used against him? How does this twit get any attention? He's not even funny enough to be comic relief for stoned people.

Cheers.
 
2012-11-04 08:51:31 AM

czetie: czetie: rahpower: czetie: Ah, crap. Cramer is the man who recommended Lehman as a "screaming buy" shortly before it went bankrupt. And that was one of his better picks.

One of the few good ways for an amateur to make fast money in the market is to short whatever Cramer is recommending. Wait for a couple of days for the dumb money that follows his show to bid it up, then bail.

Short a stock, wait for it to get bid up, then cover? That doesn't sound like a very good way to make money. Or, do you mean, wait a few days for it to get bid up, then short?

I don't know. What do you think the word "bail" means in this context?

...because personally I think it means "get more coffee before posting again"...


...and by "get more coffee" I mean me not you, because obviously I posted the exact opposite of what I meant to post. Can I go out and come back in again?
 
2012-11-04 08:53:16 AM
oops, s/K/C/

My bad, need more caffeine.

Cheers.
 
2012-11-04 09:03:24 AM

Rann Xerox: themindiswatching: Isn't Jim Cramer the guy who predicts the exact opposite of what actually happens?

Jim Cramer is the William Kristol of the stock market.


Isn't he one of those "The Dow will go to 40,000" guys?
 
2012-11-04 09:05:56 AM

Brian_of_Nazareth: How does this twit get any attention?


He yells a lot.
 
2012-11-04 09:29:55 AM

mat catastrophe: Here's another fun map of the results from a nationwide mock election in elementary schools.


It might explain Obama's Halloween mask lead.
 
2012-11-04 09:30:32 AM

DamnYankees: In order to make this work, you need to give Obama states like WY or KY or LA.


He'll be lucky if he loses Louisiana by less points than he did last time.
 
2012-11-04 09:39:26 AM

Nem Wan: mat catastrophe: Here's another fun map of the results from a nationwide mock election in elementary schools.

The states where kids change from Democrats to Republicans when they grow up are the states with corporal punishment in schools.


Looks like lots of those states are ones with large minority populations in their schools. Ten to twelve years from now, many of them will be minority-majority states. The GOP is going to have to evolve if they're going to continue to win at the national level.
 
2012-11-04 09:39:42 AM
When Obama wins NV UT AZ FL AL MS LA AR MO TN KY IN NC & WV Cramer won't look so stupid, will he?
 
2012-11-04 09:58:50 AM
He shows Obama taking AZ? Hahaha!

I wish. That'd be awesome.
 
2012-11-04 10:08:43 AM

mat catastrophe: Here's another fun map of the results from a nationwide mock election in elementary schools.


I feel like someone once told me these elementary school polls almost always picked the winner, but I can't find any evidence to corroborate.
 
2012-11-04 10:10:25 AM
Here is something: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/wacky-ways-predict-presidential-el ection/story?id=17293644#7
 
2012-11-04 10:13:24 AM
Has Cramer ever been right about anything? Oh well, at least he got the winner correct.
 
2012-11-04 10:13:27 AM

Brian_of_Nazareth: Seriously, am I the only one who remembers how completely idiotic "Kudlow and Kramer" was back then?


Was that really a show? I'm wouldn't be surprised if you're the only one who remembers -- most people who watch those two in the same room together probably lost too many brain cells.
 
2012-11-04 10:22:22 AM
Crap. This means Romney is going to win.
 
2012-11-04 10:39:22 AM
All I can say is that there is a nearly perfect chance of Obomney taking Ohio, Florida, and Colorado. They made sure of that already.
 
2012-11-04 10:50:01 AM
For some reason I read that as "440 electron volts"
 
2012-11-04 10:50:48 AM
AZ, MT, SD, TX, and GA? Ha, if only.

At any rate, VA is looking better and better for Obama. These are apparently going out all over the place this weekend:

i.imgur.comi.imgur.com
 
2012-11-04 10:50:49 AM

Shrugging Atlas: Has Cramer ever been right about anything? Oh well, at least he got the winner correct.


Stark Industries' stock plummeting?
 
2012-11-04 10:51:42 AM

mat catastrophe: Here's another fun map of the results from a nationwide mock election in elementary schools.


For some reason, the fact that MO is red in that while states like MS and TX are blue, troubles me.
 
2012-11-04 10:53:31 AM

Arkanaut: Brian_of_Nazareth: Seriously, am I the only one who remembers how completely idiotic "Kudlow and Kramer" was back then?

Was that really a show? I'm wouldn't be surprised if you're the only one who remembers -- most people who watch those two in the same room together probably lost too many brain cells.


You missed out. It was high entertainment. Kudlow may be one of the most boring men on TV, and then you've got Cramer sitting across from him losing his shiat over every single topic they'd discuss. It was like watching someone mildly stupid and on Prozac try carry on a conversation with a highly animated chimpanzee.
 
2012-11-04 10:56:51 AM
Say what you will about the guy, but I like his show. He was pretty good on Parks and Rec too.
 
2012-11-04 10:57:31 AM

robsul82: Dean Chambers thinks you're being a BIT unrealistic.


I just realized that THAT Dean Chambers is the same one I went to school with. He founded a paper that was...odd, even back in the day. His version of The American Spectator was perhaps the most vitriolic and racist piece of fish wrapping that you can imagine. And he hasn't gotten any better it seems. He was always slightly delusional, but I suppose I should have recognized the prose style, since we butted heads a few times as he hosted a radio show on the same station I DJed on, and I did editorial cartoons for the campus paper. Weird seeing alums like this...
 
2012-11-04 10:58:13 AM

Mrtraveler01: mat catastrophe: Here's another fun map of the results from a nationwide mock election in elementary schools.

For some reason, the fact that MO is red in that while states like MS and TX are blue, troubles me.


I've been on temporary assignment to Mississippi for the past couple of months, and there is almost zero campaign ads. There's this corny SuperPAC ad set in the future, where we "meet our new Chinese overlords" that runs from time to time.
 
2012-11-04 11:00:39 AM

Sgt Otter: Shrugging Atlas: Has Cramer ever been right about anything? Oh well, at least he got the winner correct.

Stark Industries' stock plummeting?


Holy shiat I completely forgot about that.
 
2012-11-04 11:00:46 AM
Looking at the full list of predictions by pundits and columnists, I think this could be a good example of wisdom of crowds. If you average all the predictions of electoral votes made at the Washington Post you get Romney 240 Obama 298, which is the same as what Juan Williams is predicting. Of course, Juan Williams is predicting Romney will win the popular vote. Averaging the predictions, it's Romney 48.4 Obama 50.6, which is closer to what Chris Callizza is predicting.
 
2012-11-04 11:05:12 AM

EngineerAU: The GOP is going to have to evolve if they're going to continue to win at the national level.


Most of the Republican Party don't believe in evolution, so that's not very likely to happen.
 
2012-11-04 11:08:58 AM
I am glad people on both sides of the Fark politics divide can agree that Jim Cramer is a crazy koont
 
2012-11-04 11:11:10 AM

Shrugging Atlas: Arkanaut: Brian_of_Nazareth: Seriously, am I the only one who remembers how completely idiotic "Kudlow and Kramer" was back then?

Was that really a show? I'm wouldn't be surprised if you're the only one who remembers -- most people who watch those two in the same room together probably lost too many brain cells.

You missed out. It was high entertainment. Kudlow may be one of the most boring men on TV, and then you've got Cramer sitting across from him losing his shiat over every single topic they'd discuss. It was like watching someone mildly stupid and on Prozac try carry on a conversation with a highly animated chimpanzee.


Hmm... come to think of it, I'd be interested to see what happens if they smoke up or drop acid together.
 
2012-11-04 11:27:08 AM

dr_blasto: EngineerAU: The GOP is going to have to evolve if they're going to continue to win at the national level.

Most of the Republican Party don't believe in evolution, so that's not very likely to happen.


The fact that they don't believe in it doesn't stop it from happening.
 
2012-11-04 11:41:56 AM
Take away the 24/7 right-wing propaganda on Fox and AM radio, take away Citizens United, take away GOP voter supression -- yeah, I could see 440.
 
2012-11-04 11:52:52 AM
 
2012-11-04 12:12:14 PM

Arkanaut: Brian_of_Nazareth: Seriously, am I the only one who remembers how completely idiotic "Kudlow and Kramer" was back then?

Was that really a show? I'm wouldn't be surprised if you're the only one who remembers -- most people who watch those two in the same room together probably lost too many brain cells.


Oh, I remember. And it was at least as stupid as you're imagining it would have been.

True story - I woke up this morning thinking, for some reason, about how much I miss Louis Rukeyser.
 
2012-11-04 12:12:35 PM
The anti Arpio and we hate the Mexicans bit in Mexico has the Arizona Hispanic community registering to vote in record numbers, hence the AZ GOP sending out Spanish fliers to vote on Thursday, Arizona and a lot of the South West could end up being a huge surprise
 
2012-11-04 12:33:59 PM

Notabunny: Wow. Jim Cramer being a bombastic and flashy attention whore? But then, Business Insider is also publishing the guesses of a politics editor, a horse-racing columnist, and a political reporter as if they carry some weight. How about a real statistician predicting Obama:332, Romney :206.


The original article has tech guys and poker players in the mix too.
 
2012-11-04 12:35:17 PM
Not gonna happen but the repub whagarbbl in response to such a trouncing would be epic.
 
2012-11-04 01:00:01 PM
Jim Cramer correctly predicts that Jim Cramer will get some free, easy media attention by predicting a blowout victory for Obama with a bizarre number of EC votes.
 
2012-11-04 01:25:54 PM

Bonanza Jellybean: First compelling evidence I've seen that Obama won't be reelected.


You sir, owe me a new tablet.
 
2012-11-04 01:39:48 PM
Roll 212!
 
2012-11-04 01:46:54 PM
Da Bears Sterns?
 
2012-11-04 02:03:27 PM

mat catastrophe: Here's another fun map of the results from a nationwide mock election in elementary schools.


Holy Uncrustables Batman!

This does not bode well for Romney. Children's election opinions are a pretty sure-fire way of polling their parents.
 
2012-11-04 02:27:56 PM
static5.businessinsider.com

www.unskewedpolls.com

Both are crazy, but Cramer isn't in the election-prediction business and has somewhat of an excuse. 

/still think OR going red is the funniest state-specific prediction.
 
2012-11-04 02:35:44 PM
Wrong.

Obama will get between 300 and 350.

--God
 
2012-11-04 02:38:39 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: [static5.businessinsider.com image 850x533]

[www.unskewedpolls.com image 600x515]

Both are crazy, but Cramer isn't in the election-prediction business and has somewhat of an excuse. 

/still think OR going red is the funniest state-specific prediction.


Texas going blue is making me laugh a lot. It could happen some years from now but not right freaking now.
 
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