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(Townhall)   US Law: You cannot wear, show and speak anything in favor or against a candidate within 100 yards of a polling station. NAACP Texas: Inside wearing and handing out Obama paraphernalia, goodies, and telling people to vote for Obama   (townhall.com) divider line 255
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2012-11-04 09:45:13 AM
It is okay when the democrats do it.
Haven't you learned that yet?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-04 09:51:55 AM
Kentucky voting laws
117.235 Persons permitted in voting room -- Prohibited activities -- Exit polls permitted -- Maintenance of order -- Mock elections for school children.
(1) No person, other than the election officers, challengers, person assisting voters in accordance with KRS 117.255(3), and a minor child in the company of a voter, shall be permitted within the voting room while the vote is being polled, except as follows:
(a) For the purpose of voting;
(b) By authority of the election officers to keep order and enforce the law;
(c) With the express approval of the county board of elections to repair or replace voting equipment that is malfunctioning and to provide additional voting equipment; or
(d) At the voter's discretion, a minor child in the company of a voter may accompany the voter into a voting booth or other private area provided for casting a vote.
(2) No officer of election shall do any electioneering on election day.
(3) No person shall electioneer at the polling place on the day of any election, as established in KRS 118.025, within a distance of three hundred (300) feet of any entrance to a building in which a voting machine is located if that entrance is unlocked and is used by voters on election day, unless the fiscal court or legislative body of an urban-county, charter county, or consolidated local government, on a countywide basis, specifically prohibits electioneering on the day of any election by ordinance for a distance greater than three hundred (300) feet from the polling place.
 
2012-11-04 10:00:48 AM
I think the best part of this article is the lady angrily describing how all the poll workers just ignored her when she started ranting about black people being near the voters.

But don't worry, crazy bag lady, Townhall is there to take you seriously.
 
2012-11-04 10:04:40 AM

propasaurus: Oh noes! NAACP members were wearing NAACP labeled clothing!


You missed the cumminist activity part. They were handing out water!
 
2012-11-04 10:08:00 AM

Xcott: I think the best part of this article is the lady angrily describing how all the poll workers just ignored her when she started ranting about black people being near the voters.

But don't worry, crazy bag lady, Townhall is there to take you seriously.


Anything Democrats do is OK, so shut up and live with it.
 
2012-11-04 10:13:04 AM

smitty04: Xcott: I think the best part of this article is the lady angrily describing how all the poll workers just ignored her when she started ranting about black people being near the voters.

But don't worry, crazy bag lady, Townhall is there to take you seriously.

Anything Democrats do is OK, so shut up and live with it.


Oh how I wish you'd take your own advice.
 
2012-11-04 10:16:57 AM

abb3w: propasaurus: Oh noes! NAACP members were wearing NAACP labeled clothing!

...yeah, actually, that might be grounds to ask them to flip the T-Shirt. And, yes, I think they probably should have, if the request was made by a poll worker.



TFA didn't say who asked them to flip their shirts. I suspect it was the observer.

NAACP clothing and materials are not a direct endorsement of a candidate. There is no grounds to ask them to change their clothing.
 
2012-11-04 10:20:16 AM
State voted in:
Texas

Previous states voted in:
New Jersey, Virginia, Florida

Languages ballots were available in:
English, Spanish, Vietnamese, and Chinese. Given the ethnic breakdown of the area, kinda surprised that Hindu or Korean weren't available.

Crowd:
Maybe 2/3's "minorities" 1/3 white. Lots of blacks, Hispanics, Indian/Pakistani.

Signs:
In theory, Texas doesn't allow electioneering within 100' of the polling booth. In practice they pick a convenient fence line as the point. Hundreds of the crap assed yard signs (frankly, I consider them to be littering), including a lot on the polling places property. Now, I dislike having political signs on county property (sheriff's office building), but I really hate having election signs on the polling place property itself. If I was running things, any election signs would be banned from the polling places property.

Electioneering:
Wife of one of the judges running for office was engaging in electioneering on the people in line (up until the Magic Line which she couldn't cross). Was a bit rude. This is a huge peeve of mine; I don't care where the "magic line" is. If you're in line to vote there should be ZERO electioneering.

Texas likes to play games with voting booths; the more minorities or poor people in your district, the more restrictive the voting hours, number of machines, and ability of the location to handle the number of voters. My area had near zero parking and the early voting was generally 8 am to 4:30 pm (it's almost as if they wanted to exclude people who work).

Side note on signs... This year, these are the following presidential election signs I've seen.
One Obama bumper sticker
One Bush/Cheney bumper sticker

And that's about it.

Machines were a few years old but fairly well done; probably the best/better voting machines that I've used/seen.
 
2012-11-04 10:25:36 AM

3_Butt_Cheeks:
Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK.


It's the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. You can read that over and over until it sinks in.
 
2012-11-04 10:30:51 AM

Krieghund: NAACP clothing and materials are not a direct endorsement of a candidate. There is no grounds to ask them to change their clothing.


If you are intimidated when surrounded by young black males wearing NAACP clothing while trying to vote, you are a bigot.
 
2012-11-04 10:31:59 AM

Satanic_Hamster: This is a huge peeve of mine; I don't care where the "magic line" is. If you're in line to vote there should be ZERO electioneering.


I would go further: it's incredibly rude to proselytize to anyone in a captive situation: in line, in an elevator, on a ski lift, etc. If people don't have the luxury of walking away from you, you shouldn't be trying to pitch them John Edwards or Jesus or Amway or anything.
 
2012-11-04 10:34:09 AM
Oh look a Townhall article with no citations, who'd a thunk that.
 
2012-11-04 10:34:34 AM
Where is the video of the incident? In today's age, you'd figure that she would use her cellphone and take video evidence.
 
2012-11-04 10:35:38 AM

Carlip: are these the same folks from the black panthers that were standing outside polls with clubs during the 2008 elections that got their charges dropped by Eric Holder?


I love how this is the one an only incident that the right can point out of so called voter intimidation by the "left". Scary looking black guys standing outside of a polling station in a predominantly black neighborhood with a white chick walking in behind them. bogga bogga bogga
 
2012-11-04 10:39:18 AM

smitty04: Kentucky voting laws


Kentucky?
 
2012-11-04 10:40:29 AM

smitty04: If you are intimidated when surrounded by young black males wearing NAACP clothing while trying to vote, you are a bigot.


You seem to think you're being sarcastic... but you really aren't.
 
2012-11-04 10:47:16 AM
Hell, they changed the law in Arizona so you can wear whatever electioneering stuff you want in a polling place. They're not even pretending anymore here.
 
2012-11-04 10:53:06 AM
Townhall thinks black people are scary. I'm shocked.
 
2012-11-04 10:53:07 AM

smitty04: Krieghund: NAACP clothing and materials are not a direct endorsement of a candidate. There is no grounds to ask them to change their clothing.

If you are intimidated when surrounded by young black males wearing NAACP clothing while trying to vote, you are a bigot.


Yes, that's correct. No sarcasm. You are absolutely correct in that statement.
 
2012-11-04 11:01:43 AM
Last election my idiot brother got all flustered and voted for FUBU
 
2012-11-04 11:14:29 AM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.


Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.
 
2012-11-04 11:14:55 AM
That explains the three Romney-t-shirted people at early voting in central Florida on Friday. (No overt Obama-dressed folk.) Stay classy, repugs.
 
2012-11-04 11:19:04 AM

Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.


Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.
 
2012-11-04 11:19:07 AM

fustanella: That explains the three Romney-t-shirted people at early voting in central Florida on Friday. (No overt Obama-dressed folk.) Stay classy, repugs.


Obama supporter here. Why shouldn't they wear whatever they want?
 
2012-11-04 11:25:55 AM
Technically the NAACP can't formally support any candidate because they are a non-profit (not that that's stopped any non-profit before, ie Church groups).

In fact the NAACP left leanings if only a recent thing since the NAACP has a history of supporting Republicans. I guess the case could be made that the NAACP tends to support the "Party of the North" since they has been a role reversal between the Rep and Dems in the last 50 years, it used to be the Democrats where the party of the racist south, but now that has shifted to be the Republicans.
 
2012-11-04 11:32:20 AM

thurstonxhowell: Obama supporter here. Why shouldn't they wear whatever they want?


Most states (all?) don't allow you to wear election/candidate supporting clothing inside a polling place.
 
2012-11-04 11:40:43 AM

smitty04: Krieghund: NAACP clothing and materials are not a direct endorsement of a candidate. There is no grounds to ask them to change their clothing.

If you are intimidated when surrounded by young black males wearing NAACP clothing while trying to vote, you are a bigot.


I wonder if you would look at it that way if they were white? Just wondering? Some white tea party members go to rallys with guns displayed but you should be scared of a black man in a NAACP t-shirt?

/I would like to think that we could agree on something.
//I have been told that my view of the world is pretty optimistic.
 
2012-11-04 11:41:55 AM

Satanic_Hamster: thurstonxhowell: Obama supporter here. Why shouldn't they wear whatever they want?

Most states (all?) don't allow you to wear election/candidate supporting clothing inside a polling place.


Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech. It isn't that complicated to understand
 
2012-11-04 11:42:55 AM

cretinbob: pics or it didn't happen


True The Vote has million$ behind it, yet none of their pollwatchers had a cell phone with a camera?
 
2012-11-04 11:44:49 AM

smitty04: Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.

Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.


The NAACP people were handing out water and helping people to the front of the line (at my polling station, on Friday, we openly discussed helping older people with walkers, pregnant ladies and people with disabilities to the front of the line and not to mention people who just registered). Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.
 
2012-11-04 11:53:57 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-04 12:03:22 PM
The Unlikely tag was busy at church?
 
2012-11-04 12:13:01 PM
But all those polling places inside churches with pro-life/anti-gay posters? Well that's just good ol', 'Murican freedom's what that is!
 
2012-11-04 12:13:14 PM

liam76: cameroncrazy1984: Carlip: are these the same folks from the black panthers that were standing outside polls with clubs during the 2008 elections that got their charges dropped by Eric Holder?

Considering the charges were dropped by the Bush Admin, no.

Bush dropped the criminal case.

Holder, in the civil case, allowed them to get away with a warning that basically said next time don't break the law.

The lack of pictures makes me think this is BS, but those clowns shouldn't have gotten away without punishment.


Uh, if the criminal charges were dropped, how exactly did they break the law?
 
2012-11-04 12:17:24 PM

thenewmissus: smitty04: Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.

Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.

The NAACP people were handing out water and helping people to the front of the line (at my polling station, on Friday, we openly discussed helping older people with walkers, pregnant ladies and people with disabilities to the front of the line and not to mention people who just registered). Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.


Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?
 
2012-11-04 12:18:00 PM

furiousxgeorge: Ok subby, if Obama wins Texas we will get right on investigating this.


There be no need for an investigation as every Republican's head in the country will explode.
 
2012-11-04 12:21:45 PM

thurstonxhowell: fustanella: That explains the three Romney-t-shirted people at early voting in central Florida on Friday. (No overt Obama-dressed folk.) Stay classy, repugs.

Obama supporter here. Why shouldn't they wear whatever they want?


Electioneering law, usually.

I'm not sure it's "US law", though, I think it's state-by-state. Texas has a pending lawsuit over someone wearing a "VOTE: The Bible" tee-shirt at an early polling place this year, so I suspect that ours is pretty strict (I know we have the 100 yard rule, as well, 'cause we aint into them hippie meter thingies). I also wasn't allowed to check my cell phone while waiting in line, so fairly paranoid about device interference too, I guess.

Empty Matchbook: But all those polling places inside churches with pro-life/anti-gay posters? Well that's just good ol', 'Murican freedom's what that is!


That wouldn't be legal, so far as I know, though again I only really know my state's laws. The election commission actually only uses public buildings (at least for the last few years), so no churches to begin with, and the rooms where the machines are set up are stripped to the walls or covered so as to be basically white boxes.
 
2012-11-04 12:23:06 PM

fustanella: That explains the three Romney-t-shirted people at early voting in central Florida on Friday. (No overt Obama-dressed folk.) Stay classy, repugs.


In Florida you can wear whatever you want.
 
2012-11-04 12:23:17 PM

zenobia: cretinbob: pics or it didn't happen

True The Vote has million$ behind it, yet none of their pollwatchers had a cell phone with a camera?


Not even I have a cell phone with a camera. I feel that if it is worth photographing use a high quality camera with a high quality lens.
 
2012-11-04 12:24:39 PM

smitty04: thenewmissus: smitty04: Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.

Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.

The NAACP people were handing out water and helping people to the front of the line (at my polling station, on Friday, we openly discussed helping older people with walkers, pregnant ladies and people with disabilities to the front of the line and not to mention people who just registered). Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.

Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?


The skin heads going into central Philadelphia in full skinhead regalia and working as poll watchers?

C'mon dude...that's hilarious.
 
2012-11-04 12:30:24 PM

X-boxershorts: smitty04: thenewmissus: smitty04: Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.

Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.

The NAACP people were handing out water and helping people to the front of the line (at my polling station, on Friday, we openly discussed helping older people with walkers, pregnant ladies and people with disabilities to the front of the line and not to mention people who just registered). Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.

Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?

The skin heads going into central Philadelphia in full skinhead regalia and working as poll watchers?

C'mon dude...that's hilarious.


So the commonsense rule should be, not allow anything that could be perceived as voter intimidation including allowing people to loiter in the polling area.
 
2012-11-04 12:33:07 PM

thenewmissus: Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.


Wearing paraphernalia advocating a political cause or party (yes, the NAACP, having PACs among other things, would be a political organization) is in fact illegal in Texas within 100 yards of the polling station, as is verbally advocating for a candidate, organization, or cause.

Though... "crime" is kinda overstating it. The standard procedure is to ask you to conceal the logo, and if you won't then you're removed from the premises. Only if you at that point refuse to leave/come back and harass people further are you actually going to be in any legal trouble.

Basically, yeah, this is in fact a violation, but it's more on the poll workers for not asking them to go change their shirts to something without a political emblem and/or move 100 yards away than anything else.
 
2012-11-04 12:41:48 PM

smitty04: Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?


No, I would not, because a skinhead presence carries an implicit threat of violence.

Surely you don't think the NAACP's presence is an implicit threat of violence to white voters.
 
2012-11-04 12:42:51 PM

Jim_Callahan: That wouldn't be legal, so far as I know, though again I only really know my state's laws. The election commission actually only uses public buildings (at least for the last few years), so no churches to begin with, and the rooms where the machines are set up are stripped to the walls or covered so as to be basically white boxes.


In Texas, there's a number of early polling places at churches.
 
2012-11-04 12:46:42 PM
I believe its 100 FEET and not 100 yards there subby.

Insert Spinal Tap stonehenge here
 
2012-11-04 12:47:51 PM

Xcott: smitty04: Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?

No, I would not, because a skinhead presence carries an implicit threat of violence.

Surely you don't think the NAACP's presence is an implicit threat of violence to white voters.


Some people feel that voting in churches is intimidating to Progressives.
 
2012-11-04 12:48:49 PM

smitty04: thenewmissus: smitty04: Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.

Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.

The NAACP people were handing out water and helping people to the front of the line (at my polling station, on Friday, we openly discussed helping older people with walkers, pregnant ladies and people with disabilities to the front of the line and not to mention people who just registered). Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.

Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?


Umm.....no. These organizations are not the same thing. The NAACP does not equal hate group. Try again. If The Tea Party of America (don't know if that's a real organization) went to a black neighborhood and handed out free water and helped old ladies go vote, I would not have a problem with that.
 
2012-11-04 12:48:57 PM

smitty04: X-boxershorts: smitty04: thenewmissus: smitty04: Xcott: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Pro-tip for the racially handicapped: Not every person associated with the NAACP is BLACK. But stereotyping is great fun.

Don't be silly: if the NAACP volunteers were white, the crazy Townhall bag lady wouldn't have tried to alert the authorities.

Take off your partisan hat and admit that no one should be able to loiter near a polling station unless you are a poll worker.

The NAACP people were handing out water and helping people to the front of the line (at my polling station, on Friday, we openly discussed helping older people with walkers, pregnant ladies and people with disabilities to the front of the line and not to mention people who just registered). Giving out water isn't a crime (unless you are black apparently). Non-story and you know it.

Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?

The skin heads going into central Philadelphia in full skinhead regalia and working as poll watchers?

C'mon dude...that's hilarious.

So the commonsense rule should be, not allow anything that could be perceived as voter intimidation including allowing people to loiter in the polling area.


Are you obstinate? Or just willfully clueless.

Those scary scary black dudes at that precinct in Philadelphia.....actually LIVED IN THE PRECINCT
And get this...One of them, was LEGALLY AUTHORIZED TO BE THERE...yes, a registered poll watcher in an all black precinct, who also happens to be black...oooooh, scary shiat dude...

And the only people they intimidated were the out of precinct white republicans who were spying on them.

Again, I ask.,....Are you obstinate? Or just willfully clueless.
 
2012-11-04 12:49:23 PM
Kind of ironic, the ad on the top of the page was telling me not to vote for the new voter id law that the conservatives love.
 
2012-11-04 12:50:52 PM

smitty04: Xcott: smitty04: Would you feel the same way about the Skin Heads doing the same?

No, I would not, because a skinhead presence carries an implicit threat of violence.

Surely you don't think the NAACP's presence is an implicit threat of violence to white voters.

Some people feel that voting in churches is intimidating to Progressives.


yeah dude...you just imitated the talking heads at FOX news with your "some people" concern troll...
 
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