pciszek: Marine1: How'd he get through life not branching out?Sounds like he did somewhat, if he was working as an electrician. Not necessarily a bad profession for someone who used to work with old IBM systems.
whatshisname: Zarquon's Flat Tire: I still don't get why Christians don't just say that God designed life to evolve.They do. See "Intelligent Design"
Zarquon's Flat Tire: I still don't get why Christians don't just say that God designed life to evolve.
phalamir: In many ways, Intelligent Design is one of the most obscene attacks on the majesty of God imaginable. "I cannot see how this could occur without God, so God had to do it" translates directly as "I am too stupid to come up with a way this makes sense without magic hand-waving by God" which translates directly as "Since God had to handwave to make it work, God is stupider than me, because not only did He have to handwave, but He was so dumb about how He did it that I was able to see the flaw that required handwaving". Accepting Intelligent Design is simply calling God a complete and utter farking retard moron, because a truly infinitely perfect omni-omni deity could - and almost be definition of being perfect, would have to - create a universe that was completely and utterly indistinguishable from one arising from random chance; otherwise His Design would not be perfect because of the obvious problems. And they are some ass-glaring flaws, since we know they are visible for people with virtually no education, single-digit IQs, and the reasoning skills of low-end rocks. Intelligent Design only works if you posit the most un-Intelligent Designer possible
Son of Thunder: Granted, I'm just a research psychologist, but I am a PhD-holding empirical-research-publishing person who is also a believer.
dualplains: "God moves in extremely mysterious, not to say, circuitous ways. God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players*, to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time."* ie., everybody.- Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett Good Omens
whatshisname: Haliburton Cummings: i wasn't trying to put gravity and god in the same place either. i was making an analogy.No, you were building a straw man.
Drunk Astronaut: Seems to me the only mistake JPL made was hiring this whackadoo in the first place.Sadly, though, he'll become another martyr in the ID cause...
Haliburton Cummings: so since you understand the effects of gravity so well, explain gravity to me.
dready zim: Wait, you mean that because the universe does not look like it was made by god that means it was made by god?
UNC_Samurai: Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?
Ghastly: And then you try to divorce yourself from the conversation... but he doesn't stop. He's still following you, still spouting madness you don't want to hear, because he imagines some kindred spirit in you, some special bond that the two of you will ride out the coming apocalypse together
Lachwen: I've heard some atheists refer to the universe as "the grand accident." I hold to that myself. My mom calls it "the grand experiment." She figures God came up with the idea for the universe, made up all the physical rules it would have to abide by, set it in motion, and is now watching to see what happens.
Clock Spider Jerusalem: So what happens when we find out some aliens were messing with our DNA along the way?
Forbidden Doughnut: raerae1980: Wait, so he was a computer specialist and not an actual scientist? Okay. I can see that. If he was an actual scientist and was preaching ID, then I'd have to wonder how he made it that far into his career. I've yet to meet a scientist who didn't believe in Evolution, although I'm sure they sadly exist.[www.conservapedia.com image 98x108]Art Robinson, Ph.D./ may be obscure outside of the Pacific Northwest...
Shakin_Haitian: [i.imgur.com image 458x258]How did you know, ABC News? How did you know?
IlGreven: Forbidden Doughnut: raerae1980: Wait, so he was a computer specialist and not an actual scientist? Okay. I can see that. If he was an actual scientist and was preaching ID, then I'd have to wonder how he made it that far into his career. I've yet to meet a scientist who didn't believe in Evolution, although I'm sure they sadly exist.[www.conservapedia.com image 98x108]Art Robinson, Ph.D./ may be obscure outside of the Pacific Northwest...Also, any scientist who signed "a Scientific Dissent from Evolution", who hasn't since disavowed their signature./If you take off all the scientists who have done so, there is a total of one biologist who has signed it sincerely: Michael Behe.
1000 Ways to Dye: gopher321: Of course, Einstein didn't really believe in the concept of a personal God with heaven and hell, just that there is structure to the world/universe...Sadly, Einstein's personal beliefs also caused him to initially refute the idea of an expanding universe (which he later said was his biggest blunder), and also caused him to believe that quantum mechanics (A field he helped create) was fundamentally wrong, so the last decades of his life were spent searching for a theory of everything that didn't include QM.
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