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(Guardian)   Can the Toffees keep being the pride of Merseyside, will Lambert stop being a villain, can Wenger forget the 8-2 drubbing and can Liverpool snatch back from Chelsea the title of most hated team? Welcome to Fark's weekly English Premier League thread   ( guardian.co.uk) divider line
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2012-11-03 07:16:58 AM  
I don't think anybody's picking Arsenal to steal a game at Old Trafford today. I'd be more confident if Diaby was in; his movement makes defenders work too hard. Right now, though, Man Utd is a more cohesive team, they're more confident, and they're playing at home.
 
2012-11-03 07:19:16 AM  
Probably, not really, not likely, and dude, damn near everyone hates Chelsea now, Liverpool aren't even close.

The only bad part about today is the fact the the big game is the very first one. Kind of wish United-Arsenal got the late kickoff, but oh well.

Over under on 8-2 jokes for the thread is at 5.5. PLACE YOUR BETS!
 
2012-11-03 07:30:48 AM  
The refs talking about boycotting the plastics over the Clattenburg thing. That would be comedy.
 
2012-11-03 07:48:05 AM  
Morning all.

I'm still in the hotel but will be moving into a new flat in a few days. Yippee!

FFPL report to follow for the 1500 Zulu games. Tough batch to predict this week.
 
2012-11-03 07:49:00 AM  

drewogatory: The refs talking about boycotting the plastics over the Clattenburg thing. That would be comedy.


Not terribly surprised by this, especially if Clattenburg is found innocent. You can't just go around besmirching refs' reputations, it sets an awful precedent.

If Clattenburg said what they say he said, calling Mikel a monkey, his career is over. You better have your shiat together if your going to drop that bomb on a man and possibly ruin his life.
 
2012-11-03 07:50:32 AM  
Go (enter favorite team name here)! Score many ball goal points for the game victory!
 
2012-11-03 07:52:00 AM  
In a slightly related note, how is "Spanish twat" that bad? Maybe it's me being from the American South where me being called a n***** in public by some redneck is just a somewhat normal occurrence.
 
2012-11-03 07:52:25 AM  
After everything that happened with Terry and Suarez, I can't imagine a referee would be so stupid to call someone a monkey. Who the fark knows. Coyw.
 
2012-11-03 07:55:49 AM  

drewogatory: The refs talking about boycotting the plastics over the Clattenburg thing. That would be comedy.


It gets even worse,David Luis was the one who told John Mikel Obi that the ref said things, Mikel didn't hear anything.

Wenger is even joining in with the attacks on Chelsea Link
 
2012-11-03 07:56:19 AM  
Still makes me laugh that calling people names is a matter for the courts in GB. My okie grandmother would have been in prison for life.
 
2012-11-03 08:01:00 AM  

drewogatory: Still makes me laugh that calling people names is a matter for the courts in GB. My okie grandmother would have been in prison for life.


My roommate and I were the only black guy and Mexican in Montana (disclaimer: hyperbole). The amount of jokes we heard could have sent half the state to jail.
 
2012-11-03 08:07:42 AM  

drewogatory: Still makes me laugh that calling people names is a matter for the courts in GB. My okie grandmother would have been in prison for life.


Its a basic human right to be allowed to live your life without being subject to abuse
 
2012-11-03 08:09:04 AM  
This documentary that's on before the Arsenal/United game is farking sad. I should not have to be this sad at 5 am.
 
2012-11-03 08:12:29 AM  
It would be slightly hilarious for Chelsea to win the league, only to be docked points over the Clattenburg affair and lose it.
 
2012-11-03 08:15:43 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: This documentary that's on before the Arsenal/United game is farking sad. I should not have to be this sad at 5 am.


Is it the Ben Watson doc or the Len Bias doc? TV's off at the moment, but I know they're doing a 30 for 30 right now.

On second thought, why don't I just get my lazy ass up and turn on the TV to find out for myself?
 
2012-11-03 08:24:32 AM  

Norfolking Chance: drewogatory: Still makes me laugh that calling people names is a matter for the courts in GB. My okie grandmother would have been in prison for life.

Its a basic human right to be allowed to live your life without being subject to abuse


Or, you know..sticks and stones. Pretty sure name calling hasn't hurt my feelings since I was 8 years old. Still stupid that hurting someone's feelings is a criminal act. Might as well send FARK straight to the gulag then.
 
2012-11-03 08:24:48 AM  

Langston: I don't think anybody's picking Arsenal to steal a game at Old Trafford today. I'd be more confident if Diaby was in; his movement makes defenders work too hard. Right now, though, Man Utd is a more cohesive team, they're more confident, and they're playing at home.


True enough. I see that as a one or two goal win for United. And yet, in the prediction league this was where I put my insurance chip...
 
2012-11-03 08:28:36 AM  

Norfolking Chance: drewogatory: Still makes me laugh that calling people names is a matter for the courts in GB. My okie grandmother would have been in prison for life.

Its a basic human right to be allowed to live your life without being subject to abuse


At what point was taunting an opponent converted into abuse worthy of lawsuit?

I make 10 times what that referee makes. My teammate thought he called me a name. I'll run to the media and get him fired.
 
2012-11-03 08:28:45 AM  

ADubs86: It would be slightly hilarious for Chelsea to win the league, only to be docked points over the Clattenburg affair and lose it.


I would so love for this to happen, purely to see how the British tabloids react. The Sun would go total Librarian poo over it.
 
2012-11-03 08:31:43 AM  

drewogatory: Still makes me laugh that calling people names is a matter for the courts in GB. My okie grandmother would have been in prison for life.


Yeah, I get the FA and EPL going overboard on the kick racism out (after all English soccer and its fans don't exactly have a pristine reputation abroad) but I'm still not sure it has to be a legal matter.
 
2012-11-03 08:35:37 AM  
It's time to go full Keown, Arsenal!


/if you''re still hammered from last night, clap your hands!
//Hint: I'm clapping.
 
2012-11-03 08:45:06 AM  
I am awful at that predictor game, just terrible. It's an embarrassment.

Is that a Tecate commercial I just saw?

I don't think Arsenal can win, but for the love of God boys, don't let van Persie go crazy.

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: /if you''re still hammered from last night, clap your hands!


clap, clap, clapclapclap.
 
2012-11-03 08:48:36 AM  
Well that was fast.

Wow, solid defense. Awful.
 
2012-11-03 08:48:47 AM  
Oooh, Robin Van Persie!
 
2012-11-03 08:48:54 AM  
Ugh
 
2012-11-03 08:49:15 AM  
Welp that didn't take long
 
2012-11-03 08:49:37 AM  
Maybe this one will be 10-0.
 
2012-11-03 08:49:59 AM  
And it begins.

Hey Vermaelen, he's not playing with your club anymore, try not to pass it to him.
 
2012-11-03 08:53:51 AM  
C'mon Arsenal. Show me some spine. 
 
2012-11-03 08:57:27 AM  
Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...
 
2012-11-03 08:58:47 AM  

shadowdweller: Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...


Welcome. Enjoy the game. Any questions, feel free to ask.
 
2012-11-03 08:59:18 AM  

shadowdweller: Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...


Welcome! Feel free to voice any questions or comments you may have. Wer'e quite friendly.
 
2012-11-03 09:00:16 AM  
Midfielders starting to look more settled for Arsenal. United chasing hard; I'm hoping for them to get tired.
 
oooh, Wilshere, what the hell was that?
 
2012-11-03 09:02:36 AM  

ADubs86: shadowdweller: Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...

Welcome. Enjoy the game. Any questions, feel free to ask.


Cool. Thanks
 
2012-11-03 09:02:49 AM  

shadowdweller: Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...


Just make sure you pick the right club ;)
 
2012-11-03 09:09:38 AM  
Arsenal's red home socks look horrible paired with the away kits. The team wearing them don't exactly inspire confidence either.

Also, why do the reds all have the same kit as the Gunners keeper?
 
2012-11-03 09:10:47 AM  

dietbubba: shadowdweller: Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...

Just make sure you pick the right club ;)


Which would be the MIGHTY (but currently terrible this season) Oxford United!
 
2012-11-03 09:13:19 AM  
A lot of chances for Manchester United so far
 
2012-11-03 09:16:45 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Its a basic human right to be allowed to live your life without being subject to abuse


There's two sides to the concept of free speech/ free expression. I would rather hear 1,000 bigots speak than hear a single individual silenced. I do think concepts like this are a fascinating look at how people of different backgrounds determine what constitutes a basic right.

Also, 1-0 already? I'd 8-2 be an Arsenal supporter this morning.
 
2012-11-03 09:17:18 AM  

shadowdweller: Unfamiliar with soccer, but giving it a try...


I know it may be difficult, but it'll be better if you choose a team to root for. Manchester United is the home team wearing red, Arsenal is the visiting team in purple.
 
Both teams have a long history and many titles. United has more (19 of them) and is playing hard for #20 this season. Arsenal have far fewer but have earned their own share of silverware over the years. Over the last 10 years or so, though, money has been pouring into the Premier League, and Arsenal's best players have been siphoned away for more money elsewhere. 
 
Interesting points on today's game:
 
- Last season, when Arsenal played at Old Trafford (United's stadium), United embarrassed Arsenal with an 8-2 victory.
 
- United striker Robin van Persie (who scored the only goal so far)  just joined Manchester United this season after spending eight seasons with--you guessed it--Arsenal, where he was their top scorer last season.
 
2012-11-03 09:20:36 AM  
Also, until the last two seasons Robin van Persie was made of glass.
 
2012-11-03 09:21:49 AM  
Who do we think are going down this season? Aside from Reading?
 
2012-11-03 09:22:09 AM  

dietbubba: Just make sure you pick the right club ;)


Langston: I know it may be difficult, but it'll be better if you choose a team to root for.


Don't listen to these clowns. Anyone named Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, or Tottenham Hotspur is the wrong team to root for. Watch as much soccer as you enjoy and a smaller plucky team will strike your fancy.
 
2012-11-03 09:24:39 AM  

LucklessWonder: Who do we think are going down this season? Aside from Reading?


QPR for sure. That third spot is a toss up at the moment. Southampton look the favorites, but I can see them just surviving just as easily as seeing them plummet.
 
2012-11-03 09:25:49 AM  
Wilshere is terrifying me today. I understand he's only 20 and is excited to play after being injured for a year, but the way he's throwing his body around its like he's trying to break something else.
 
2012-11-03 09:26:47 AM  
I do have some awareness of the league, like Liverpool being owned by the same group as the Red Sox. I've heard the criticism is the same for both franchises.
 
2012-11-03 09:27:08 AM  

LucklessWonder: Who do we think are going down this season? Aside from Reading?


I like QPR for the the drop. Two years is enough of that dastardly club. I'll also say, Wigan's annual flirt with the drop finally catches up to them.
 
2012-11-03 09:29:36 AM  

shadowdweller: I do have some awareness of the league, like Liverpool being owned by the same group as the Red Sox. I've heard the criticism is the same for both franchises.


To be fair to Mr. Henry, the Red Sox under his leadership finally broke the Curse of the Bambino and have one of the nicest venues in all of baseball. It's just that his recent results haven't been there. I say give him time. He's still loads better than Hicks and Gillett who did nothing but make empty promises and damn near bankrupt the club.
 
2012-11-03 09:30:58 AM  
And there's the obligatory cheap call against Arsenal
 
2012-11-03 09:30:59 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: dietbubba: Just make sure you pick the right club ;)

Langston: I know it may be difficult, but it'll be better if you choose a team to root for.

Don't listen to these clowns. Anyone named Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, or Tottenham Hotspur is the wrong team to root for. Watch as much soccer as you enjoy and a smaller plucky team will strike your fancy.


I wasn't suggesting he settle on either team in the long run, but it's more difficult to enjoy a game where you don't know either team if you just choose one to root for. Like if I was trying to watch a rugby game land wasn't familiar with either team, I'd pick one just to make watching the game more enjoyable.
 
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