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(BusinessWeek)   Amtrak resumes limited service during hurricane repairs. This is good news since on its best days Amtrak provided only limited service   (businessweek.com) divider line 28
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2012-11-03 12:27:23 AM
Well done, subby!
 
2012-11-03 12:29:23 AM
I've actually never had a single problem with Amtrak. Not a frequent rider, but I've taken quite a few trips on Amtrak. Always been nice.
 
2012-11-03 12:34:12 AM

Relatively Obscure: I've actually never had a single problem with Amtrak. Not a frequent rider, but I've taken quite a few trips on Amtrak. Always been nice.


Second!

If you've got a bit of extra time to spare, it beats the hell out of driving. Not as fast as flying, but far, far less of a hassle.

Just remember a hip flask full of medicine and something to eat. The cocktails, beer, and wine on the train are a bit pricey.
 
2012-11-03 12:49:08 AM
Yeah ... I have no idea what the problem is with Amtrak is, on a fundamental level.

It's needs more funding to catch up with First World standards, but that's not a fair criticism of the service, rather of Congress.
 
2012-11-03 07:45:21 AM

Sid_6.7: If you've got a bit of extra time to spare, it beats the hell out of driving. Not as fast as flying, but far, far less of a hassle.


I just took it to/from Seattle last weekend, and it was great. Free WiFi is a nice added bonus, even if Youtube/Hulu/Netflix don't work.
 
2012-11-03 08:22:49 AM
The Acela out here is quite nice and reliable.
 
2012-11-03 08:41:50 AM
My parents are due to fly to China today out of JFK. They were going to take the train from Albany but instead are renting a car to go one-way.
 
2012-11-03 09:17:01 AM
And what was it, AMTRAK's snack bar concessions alone lost $350 million in a year or something crazy? That's a lot of soda and sammiches.
 
2012-11-03 09:27:11 AM
kmmontandon:
Yeah ... I have no idea what the problem is with Amtrak is, on a fundamental level.

Financial ineptitude.

Take away the Federal support, and it loses money so fast you can actually hear the sucking sound.

Those nice rides people keep talking about? Take the price they paid for their tickets and double it. Literally. That's how much extra money they get from the government.

Put it this way: Amtrak can lose money - a LOT of money - on a snack bar operation on a train full of people who are stuck on it for upwards of a day at a time... and no, the food's not that cheap.
 
2012-11-03 09:35:34 AM
When I was carless, I used to love taking either the MARC train from Baltimore to DC ($5 then, now $7!). The east coast route is awesome.

However, the time involved in traveling westward leaves much to be desired.
 
2012-11-03 10:44:33 AM
Pictures of damage to NJ Transit lines, flash required.
 
2012-11-03 11:03:42 AM
As someone from Oklahoma, what's an Amtrak.

/One day, maybe
//Tulsa to OKc would be a perfect place for high speed rail it's not like there are a bunch of major metro areas that would need to be taken and all the old right always are still there

//not in a million barak Obamas
 
2012-11-03 11:23:16 AM

Relatively Obscure: I've actually never had a single problem with Amtrak. Not a frequent rider, but I've taken quite a few trips on Amtrak. Always been nice.


This. Whenever Farkers biatch about Amtrak, it always makes me wonder if they've ever actually used the service.
 
2012-11-03 11:48:54 AM
The My Little Pony Killer:
This. Whenever Farkers biatch about Amtrak, it always makes me wonder if they've ever actually used the service.

Funny - when people tell us how wonderful Amtrak is, it's either about the under-200-mile ride they took on the commuter lines down the East Coast, or a vacation they took over the course of a day or two.

Then, of course, they tell us that we need more trains everywhere, because their vacation was so much fun.
 
2012-11-03 12:19:16 PM

cirby: The My Little Pony Killer:
This. Whenever Farkers biatch about Amtrak, it always makes me wonder if they've ever actually used the service.

Funny - when people tell us how wonderful Amtrak is, it's either about the under-200-mile ride they took on the commuter lines down the East Coast, or a vacation they took over the course of a day or two.

Then, of course, they tell us that we need more trains everywhere, because their vacation was so much fun.


I certainly don't use it every day, but I'm sure I've ridden more than 100 times for trips ranging from less than 50 to more than 1,500 miles. *shrug*
I couldn't tell you about the east coast, though.
 
2012-11-03 12:26:53 PM
Amtrak is fine. I wish there were more rail lines across the country. Rail is a more fuel-efficient way of moving people and goods than cars, trucks, or airplanes. Moreover, I refuse to submit to the indignity of flying.
 
2012-11-03 12:29:07 PM

James F. Campbell: Rail is a more fuel-efficient way of moving people and goods


Over long distances, I should add. Trucks will still be needed for local distribution of goods from a central rail hub.
 
2012-11-03 02:28:30 PM

Misch: Pictures of damage to NJ Transit lines, flash required.


Just use their flickr page
 
2012-11-03 03:45:10 PM

cirby: Funny - when people tell us how wonderful Amtrak is, it's either about the under-200-mile ride they took on the commuter lines down the East Coast, or a vacation they took over the course of a day or two.


What about my post upthread about taking it to Seattle? Eugene/Portland/Seattle/Vancouver isn't quite on the east coast, and it's sure as hell not an all-day trip from Portland to Seattle. More like 3 hours 20 minutes.
 
2012-11-03 03:48:58 PM

cirby: Those nice rides people keep talking about? Take the price they paid for their tickets and double it. Literally. That's how much extra money they get from the government.


No, it's not. So I'm going to call you a either a liar or a troll. Take your pick and then tell us what the budget shortfall was in the last financial year, and what the overall budget for Amtrak was.

cirby: Take away the Federal support, and it loses money so fast you can actually hear the sucking sound.


That would be because the Republicans sold all of Amtrak's right-of-ways to CSX when they sold Conrail, which means they have to rent them back at an extraordinary cost, rather than the other way around.

But thanks for playing.
 
2012-11-03 04:20:30 PM

cirby: Take away the Federal support, and it loses money so fast you can actually hear the sucking sound.


Various government entites pay for air traffic control, airports, airport security, and in many cases, train their pilots. How profitable are the airlines? Also...

i61.photobucket.com
PRIVATIZED SECURITY!


How did those wonderful private airlines fail to protect us
 
2012-11-03 06:11:48 PM

cirby: Funny - when people tell us how wonderful Amtrak is, it's either about the under-200-mile ride they took on the commuter lines down the East Coast, or a vacation they took over the course of a day or two.


Which is exactly what train riding should be and what it is in Europe. It's not replacing JFK to LAX but it's a great replacement for many of those shorter trips that usually involve either a person alone in a rental car or a limited number of people in a regional jet that's too small to have maximum energy efficiency.
 
2012-11-03 08:30:03 PM

12349876: cirby: Funny - when people tell us how wonderful Amtrak is, it's either about the under-200-mile ride they took on the commuter lines down the East Coast, or a vacation they took over the course of a day or two.

Which is exactly what train riding should be and what it is in Europe. It's not replacing JFK to LAX but it's a great replacement for many of those shorter trips that usually involve either a person alone in a rental car or a limited number of people in a regional jet that's too small to have maximum energy efficiency.


This. It's kinda silly to fly from New York to Boston or even Saint Louis to Chicago unless you are in some kind of hurry.

Amtrak is great for regional travel, and even fun for long distance travel if you don't get too hung up on time.

/hint for long-distance travelers - bring a pillow (a big one from home) and an e-reader, take advantage of the not-quite-extravagantly-priced liquor, and treat an overnight trip like that time the TV went out --- lots of fun actually
 
2012-11-03 10:29:39 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Relatively Obscure: I've actually never had a single problem with Amtrak. Not a frequent rider, but I've taken quite a few trips on Amtrak. Always been nice.

This. Whenever Farkers biatch about Amtrak, it always makes me wonder if they've ever actually used the service.


I have used Amtrak. We took the kids in a sleeper car on an overnight trip. It was a blast. The kids loved it. We loved it. Yet, I still gripe about Amtrak because there is not enough of it. It is oriented towards vacation time not business trips, not traveling between your home and college, not reporting for duty with the military.(I'm NOT in the military.) With Amtrak, a person can easily travel overnight from Atlanta to Washington, D.C., but traveling from Atlanta to Savannah, GA also requires a trip to D.C. to change trains! It's as though Amtrak was designed, implemented, and run on a day-to-day basis by General Motors.
 
2012-11-03 10:55:02 PM

Dwight_Yeast: That would be because the Republicans sold all of Amtrak's right-of-ways to CSX when they sold Conrail, which means they have to rent them back at an extraordinary cost, rather than the other way around.

But thanks for playing.


What? I'm as pro-passenger rail as the next guy, but this makes no sense - to be honest, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what you're trying to say.

- Conrail's split-up, with half being sold to CSX, had nothing to do with the federal government, as Conrail had been privatized by this time.
- Conrail's privatization in 1987 had nothing to do with CSX, which was only a few months old as a company when the Conrail Privatization Act was signed in 1986.
- At no point during either of these two events was any Amtrak-owned trackage ceded to CSX.
 
2012-11-04 09:57:01 AM

Joe_diGriz: Just use their flickr page


Thank you.
 
2012-11-04 02:52:20 PM
It's interesting that a transportation system that brought about the rise of the super rich robber barons of the 1800s is now considered to be a form of communism by a certain segment of society.

/ All of our transportation systems are government-subsidized.
// Enjoy your car trip on the communist roadways.
 
2012-11-04 08:49:28 PM
All hail the Quiet Car.

Seriously, Amtrak was nice, much better than being crammed on an airplane, then I discovered the Quiet Car.

Holy balls, what utter bliss. Woman started chatting obnoxiously on her phone, Conductor gave her a warning. Second time, boom, told to GTFO. Same with other people who thought the room's rules didn't apply.

If quiet is for you, seek out the Quiet Car.
 
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