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(Minnesota Public Radio)   Joel Hodgson talks about MST3K's impending 25th anniversary, Cinematic Titanic, and why it's okay to like him and Mike Nelson   (minnesota.publicradio.org) divider line 103
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2012-11-03 12:31:10 AM
I will never like Mike Nelson.
 
2012-11-03 12:31:23 AM
I think I saw a kid dressed as Torgo on Halloween.
 
2012-11-03 12:37:13 AM

I Like Bread: I think I saw a kid dressed as Torgo on Halloween.


What were his knees made out of?
 
2012-11-03 12:40:36 AM
25, 50, or 100 years, it never grows old. I just watched Deathstalker for the umpteenth time.

"Potatoes are what we eat!"

Pure farking poetry.
 
2012-11-03 12:40:42 AM
K, I'm a little drunk, but I didn't see anything about him saying it was ok to like him and Mike.

/which I do.
//wait.. is that the joke?
 
2012-11-03 12:45:30 AM

DrPainMD: I will never like Mike Nelson.


Mike was the head writer even Joel was still there. If you want to get pissy, get pissy with Jim Mallon.
 
2012-11-03 12:46:05 AM
"even when Joel was there" - stupid typos
 
2012-11-03 12:46:36 AM
Both Mike and Joel are great. It just depends on what mood you are in.
You can make a strong case for hating both too.
 
2012-11-03 12:49:37 AM
Joike FTW!
 
2012-11-03 12:56:18 AM
Always loved em both. I wish I could get into Titanic, but it just never seems to hit me the right way. Rifftrax, though, is consistently funny
 
2012-11-03 01:05:21 AM
Sampled both Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic. Gotta give the nod to Rifftrax.

Which is odd since I prefer Joel. But really, life is too short to discriminate
 
2012-11-03 01:08:12 AM
I'm watching Gunslinger right now, so I'm getting a kick.

"Hey lady, you never told me... OH MY GOD!"
 
2012-11-03 01:09:44 AM

zerkalo: Sampled both Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic. Gotta give the nod to Rifftrax.

Which is odd since I prefer Joel. But really, life is too short to discriminate



Same here. Well I started watching MST3K in the last 2 seasons so Im biased to mike, but I tried watching C.T. and their choice of movies kinda turned me off.

Personally I think they should hurry up and do a mega-merge and mix and match em. I think that would be awesome.
 
2012-11-03 01:19:29 AM

IXI Jim IXI: Always loved em both. I wish I could get into Titanic, but it just never seems to hit me the right way. Rifftrax, though, is consistently funny


I really think that's because Rifftrax has Mike, and CT doesn't. Or maybe it's one of those situations where the live shows are better because the riffing chemistry is solidifying between them as they go along.

But somehow, as much as I love the Mike/Kevin/Bill incarnation of MST3K (and Rifftrax) I always fast forward through the Pearl/Brain Guy/Bobo skits in those episodes. Just can't get into them.
 
2012-11-03 01:23:59 AM

DrPainMD: I will never like Mike Nelson.



Yup. Too repetitive, too pedestrian. In comedy, this equals:

not funny.
 
2012-11-03 01:26:22 AM
I'm firmly in the Mike camp, but I'll say that Joel's sketch segments were better than Mike's on average. Though, I'm guilty of fast-fowarding through those segments to get to the movie. That's not to say there aren't great sketches, but most of them fell flat for me.

When it comes to RiffTrax versus Cinematic Titanic, though, there's no contest. RiffTrax is a thousand times more entertaining and has a much greater diversity of content. The shorts alone are golden. Seriously, you can buy them for a buck a pop, it's more than worth it. On top of that, it's just way more fun to watch them riffing newer and more well-known flicks, and the celebrities and live events are icing on the cake. Neil Patrick Harris riffing Willy Wonka is one of the greatest things ever put to media in the history of mankind.

/shorts are ALWAYS the best thing they produced, though
//your soul belongs to Coily
 
2012-11-03 01:40:15 AM
Mike never had the loopy genius Joel had. Plus Joel's burner persona was perfect for the premise.
 
2012-11-03 01:51:11 AM
Joel = Mike

Bill Corbett's Crow > Trace Beaulieu's Crow
 
2012-11-03 02:29:47 AM
Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.
 
2012-11-03 02:31:46 AM

log_jammin: Joel = Mike

Bill Corbett's Crow > Trace Beaulieu's Crow


Agreed, though I love every aspect of the show too much criticize any of it. I'm a huge fan of Rifftrax, if you close your eyes it's basically the MST3K guys*.

Trace had to make Crow's voice higher, but Corbett and Murphy both use their normal speaking voices for their characters. Their voices are naturally humorous, and those two guys really found their niche in life. I love how they not only riff the movies, but bring their own dopey personalities into the mix. They're seriously funny dudes.

*Well, the last three seasons, at least.
 
2012-11-03 02:42:34 AM
 
2012-11-03 02:44:37 AM

log_jammin: Joel = Mike

Bill Corbett's Crow

I always enjoyed Trace Crow more, his voice and sarcasm was excellent.

 
2012-11-03 02:48:48 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.



Is he still? I didn't want to mention it, but I read an interview with him a while back and he was total Libertarian flake, maybe even worse. I think he was going off on Clinton for some stupid reason that was common at the time. Makes me hard to like him, sadly enough.
 
2012-11-03 02:54:41 AM

IXI Jim IXI: Always loved em both. I wish I could get into Titanic, but it just never seems to hit me the right way. Rifftrax, though, is consistently funny


All of this, right here.
I love rifftrax, and I'm happy to give those guys a few bucks for making modern movies as hilarious as the old MST3K gems.
 
2012-11-03 03:00:11 AM
fark Joel.
 
2012-11-03 03:08:49 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: log_jammin: Joel = Mike

Bill Corbett's Crow

I always enjoyed Trace Crow more, his voice and sarcasm was excellent.


Oh, is the great Keizer Ghidorah chiming in with some witty bon mots tonight!?!?
 
2012-11-03 03:10:16 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.


Is he still? I didn't want to mention it, but I read an interview with him a while back and he was total Libertarian flake, maybe even worse. I think he was going off on Clinton for some stupid reason that was common at the time. Makes me hard to like him, sadly enough.


He was. I don't know about now.
 
2012-11-03 04:43:38 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.


Is he still? I didn't want to mention it, but I read an interview with him a while back and he was total Libertarian flake, maybe even worse. I think he was going off on Clinton for some stupid reason that was common at the time. Makes me hard to like him, sadly enough.


You guys have never heard of separating an entertainer's work from his politics? You expect your comedians to all have the same views as you? In my case, I know that Kevin Murphy is an annoying liberal, and probably contributed many left-wing zingers to MST3K, but I ignore it 'cause he's farking funny. He and Mike seem to have no problem working together after all these years despite their political differences. Get the sticks out of your asses why don't you.
 
2012-11-03 04:50:03 AM

log_jammin:

Bill Corbett's Crow > Trace Beaulieu's Crow


Seek help NOW, you may be having a stroke.
 
2012-11-03 04:55:08 AM

zerkalo: Keizer_Ghidorah: log_jammin: Joel = Mike

Bill Corbett's Crow

I always enjoyed Trace Crow more, his voice and sarcasm was excellent.

Oh, is the great Keizer Ghidorah chiming in with some witty bon mots tonight!?!?


Yeah, stick around, Sir Cheddar Clowns-A-Lot, you might learn something.
 
2012-11-03 04:59:43 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.


Is he still? I didn't want to mention it, but I read an interview with him a while back and he was total Libertarian flake, maybe even worse. I think he was going off on Clinton for some stupid reason that was common at the time. Makes me hard to like him, sadly enough.

You guys have never heard of separating an entertainer's work from his politics? You expect your comedians to all have the same views as you? In my case, I know that Kevin Murphy is an annoying liberal, and probably contributed many left-wing zingers to MST3K, but I ignore it 'cause he's farking funny. He and Mike seem to have no problem working together after all these years despite their political differences. Get the sticks out of your asses why don't you.


BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE OTHER TEAM! YOU CAN ONLY LIKE PEOPLE ON YOUR TEAM! IF THEY'RE ON THE OTHER TEAM, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FUNNY THEY ARE, THEY CAN'T BE FUNNY BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE OTHER TEAM!!!1111111DOS!

/Jesus, people are retarded over stupid political shiat. If the jokes aren't political in nature, does it really matter if someone's political views disagree with yours?
 
2012-11-03 05:30:03 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.


That is the shallowest thing I've ever seen.
 
2012-11-03 05:31:29 AM

This Face Left Blank: Seek help NOW, you may be having a stroke.


This Face Left Blank: log_jammin:

Bill Corbett's Crow > Trace Beaulieu's Crow

Seek help NOW, you may be having a stroke.


You know you want me baby!
 
2012-11-03 05:42:44 AM

Solon Isonomia: DrPainMD: I will never like Mike Nelson.

Mike was the head writer even Joel was still there. If you want to get pissy, get pissy with Jim Mallon.


And definitely get pissy with Jim Mallon for being a douchebag and his shoddy treatment of THE TAPES, which have left many of them degrading and with tape hits that prevent clean copies of the episodes from being made for the DVDs.
 
2012-11-03 05:48:33 AM

log_jammin: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.

That is the shallowest thing I've ever seen.


Welcome to Fark the internet
 
2012-11-03 05:51:15 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: It's okay to love both Joel and Mike. After all, they love each other. (kinda NSFW)


Everything is ruined forever.
 
2012-11-03 05:57:16 AM

Shadowtag: log_jammin: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.

That is the shallowest thing I've ever seen.

Welcome to Fark the internet


we're well acquainted.
 
2012-11-03 07:20:46 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mike is a loony conservative windbag.

No thx.


Is he still? I didn't want to mention it, but I read an interview with him a while back and he was total Libertarian flake, maybe even worse. I think he was going off on Clinton for some stupid reason that was common at the time. Makes me hard to like him, sadly enough.

You guys have never heard of separating an entertainer's work from his politics? You expect your comedians to all have the same views as you? In my case, I know that Kevin Murphy is an annoying liberal, and probably contributed many left-wing zingers to MST3K, but I ignore it 'cause he's farking funny. He and Mike seem to have no problem working together after all these years despite their political differences. Get the sticks out of your asses why don't you.


Seriously. Mike Nelson is a funny guy no matter what his politics are.
 
2012-11-03 07:47:43 AM

DrPainMD: I will never like Mike Nelson.


I HATE TOM SERVO'S NEW VOICE!!!
 
2012-11-03 08:10:10 AM
Did I mention that I cried?
 
2012-11-03 08:11:59 AM
tv's frank for me. i caught the show from the start of the comedy central airings. i moved to a rural area and didn't have cable and had to beg a neighbor who had a 6 foot sat dish to tape it when he could remember.
 
2012-11-03 08:12:05 AM
its threads like this that make psychiatrists give up their career and just walk away from it all, never to be seen again.

"..i dunno, Jennie. it was like three days ago, he drove past here on his bike. i said hi but nothing, no response, like i wasn't here. He just peddled down the road...and then he was gone. Please let me know if we can help. i hope the police find him okay.."
 
2012-11-03 08:23:46 AM
I don't follow the show religiously, but there seemed to be a good period with Joel, then Mike came along and it was excellent, then, at some point in time, the show kinda started to suck, especially the skits. I remember there being an obese lady that became one of the regulars, and the two (sucking and her) seemed to line up.

What happened, oh MST3K fans?
 
2012-11-03 08:24:13 AM
I love them both, but I give the slight edge to Mike because he's the first one I saw. It's sort of like the Doctor: the first one you experience will always have a special place in your heart.
 
2012-11-03 08:30:56 AM
Joel and Mike were both great, but the show jumped the shark when it added robots.
 
2012-11-03 08:44:25 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-03 09:06:13 AM
The biggest advantage Mike has is that the movie selection got much better, especially in the Sci-Fi era. So many of the Joel era movies were just plain boring, and all the riffing on Earth couldn't save them. The Mike era had more movies that were likeably incompetent. The result was more good Mike episodes.

Also, despite the invention exchange being Joel's thing, Mike did the best one: Ricocheeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt BBQ Sauce.

It's not really bold.

//Also, that's one of my favorite MST3K episodes ever. Dahhhhh dap dah dahhhhhhhh. Despite being one of the most boring movies ever made, but the riffing was top notch.
 
2012-11-03 09:16:59 AM
Team Stepa, represent!
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taliesinwi: But somehow, as much as I love the Mike/Kevin/Bill incarnation of MST3K (and Rifftrax) I always fast forward through the Pearl/Brain Guy/Bobo skits in those episodes. Just can't get into them.




I agree, though the host portions are the least interesting portion of the show. Even then, the host segments for Time Chasers is easily the best of the host segments.
 
2012-11-03 09:30:57 AM

FeedTheCollapse: Even then, the host segments for Time Chasers is easily the best of the host segments.


Those are good. Half of the Overdrawn at the Memory Bank host segments are good (the PBS parodies- the stuff about the pet monkey is meh).
 
2012-11-03 09:34:50 AM
I like the whole series, both Mike and Joel and everything else.

/Moon Zero Two is an underrated classic from the first season.
/Riding with Death is still the best.
 
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